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Hooray for real literature.Team Humbert Humbert~
(from Lolita btw >_>; )
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They don't make a heart big enough for the love!!! Please, please PRETTY PRETTY PRETTY PLEASE make this available to share on tumblr???? Please???? It would be so super loved there.
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As intriguing Humbert Humbert is on the first glance and as talented as he is in glossing over his actions...
...
He.
Is.
A.
Pedophile.
Fictional or not, he is.
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On the other hand, Nabokov is honest about his male lead (wasn't intended to be seen as a good guy and is not seen as such. More the intriguing evil kind.)... in that way, yeah, the concept behind Humbert (a pedophile, trying to charm his way out and being actually intriguing, yet still the bad guy here) is better than behind Edward (psycho, stalker, emotionally abusive - and still portrayed and to be seen as desirable.)
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Well, for the most part all Nabokov did was translate it. Cut out some of the racier stuff, and published it.
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... uh... no? Nabokov... wrote it? In the "made up story, characters and narrative framing" writing way?
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No, it's a true story, Humbert Humbert is just an alias for the real man, the real man also died while he was incarcerated, one of his last wishes was that his court statement be published in a book. That's why Humbert Humbert always says "Gentlemen of the jury!" and stuff like that because during the time he was writing it for the purpose of retelling it in court. He also mentions that most of the characters' names are aliases and not really the real names of the people, except Dolores I believe because otherwise all those nicknames would not have made sense, Lo and Dolly for example. Anyway, the real man died and his lawyer got Nabokov to essentially translate his court statement into a novel, if you have the 50th Anniversary Edition it should say all this in the Foreword.
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... ... ... ... ... ... either you are utterly stupid or you're utterly bad at trolling.
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Hey, however many thousands of copies he sold don't lie, it's all right there in the book.
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Yeah, just as several things in the book don't add up. (considering he for some reason knew Lo died? Was this a true report, don'T you think for truth's sake there would be a footnote, correcting that bit, which would illustrate how deteroriated Humberts mind had become?)
Seriously dude. Next thing you're claiming is that Goethe wasn't the actual author of "Werther" but just published it.
Also considering the translation - you ARE aware that Humbert - was he real - would have written in English, right, being British and all and that NAbokov wrote the book in English? Seriously, attend some literature lectures or even school instead of watching these "documentaries" on TV all day.
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...could you rewrite that in eligible sentences? Because everything you wrote is just...I don't even know.
So paragraph one, you're saying that since Nabokov knew Dolores died he should have made a footnote about what?
And what does paragraph two have to do with anything? I assume it's just an immature insult because you're mad I proved you wrong.
Finally paragraph three, so you're saying that since Humbert was British he would have written the book in English, and since Nabokov wrote the book in English it means I didn't go to school?
If you want to continue this discussion it's imperative that you make sense.
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*sigh* Ok.
Calm down, Sibi, calm down.
Basically, you claim that "Lolita" is not a novel, but an actual report?
Based on what?
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Not a report, more like an auto biography, c'est vrai.
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Continuing - Humbert Humbert has some parallels to Nabokov himself. European, polyglot, well-educated, etc. etc. That though is the only thing I would see as a connection between the author and the narrator.
(and no, it's not that surprising. Write what you know and all.)
But since you mentioned he just translated the autobiography of someone else...
Again, I recommend you to read the other stories with the same sujet.
Also: The book was first published in English.
Good. The story takes place in America, and no, it CAN'T take place anywhere else. The references to pop culture are specifically american in a way that just didn't exist in Europe in the late 40's and early 50's.
Sooooo... american story (with lovely jabs at the "american way of life"). Thus, we can assume - if it would have been written by someone else - it was already written in English (a rather British English too to boot). So... why do you claim Nabokov translated an autobiography of someone... from English... to English?
And then, why making up a fictious publisher? (oh. Wow. i managed to get my mangled and messed-up remark about language from earlier straightened up).
(however, I stand by one of my other remarks... next thing is someone trying to claim Gothe didn't write "Werther" but simply published some letters.)
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... .... .... .... you are... very... aware of the fact that Nabokov was Russian who wrote partly in English. (admittetly these minor details can be changed)
You are aware that throughout his life he used the same sujet as in "Lolita" for several short stories and novellas?
... you are also aware that he used several cases that happened during his times as... well, we call it inspiration.
Where did you get the idea please?
I recommend you a read through a) an actual biography of Nabokov and b) the Annotated "Lolita", edited by Alfred Appel.
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Why would you support that fucking sick pedophile?! o_o
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Because he is a well writen one
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Screw Edward, Humbert stole my soul. :'D I'm reading Lolita every night before going to sleep... Nabokov's words are my personal written lullaby.
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because let's face it-the relationship in twilight is just as morally unsound. Though you know-Lolita is actually good.
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I'd MUCH rather have Humbert then a sparklpire. I enjoyed the novel and the 1962 film adaption (it was my fave).
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wow, this is has made my day! Go real literature! **sniffles** this is totally getting faved :'D
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Heh, if you're going to be rooting for a pedo might as well be a well-written one.
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Ah YES! I so love the character of Humbert. He's a lovable, pitiful cretin.
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OH EM GEE. This is PURE genius! I'm always telling Twatlight fangirls to "pick up a Nabokav book for Christ's sake" XD
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TEAM HUMBERT! YAY! ... Another name for Charlotte Haze, but still.
I hated the movie though...
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You only read the book? Good girl. I don't recommend the movie. It has butchered the entire psychological background behind our very own H. H., and then he's just not awesome. Neither is the story. (In my eyes.)
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eesh yes, I've heard this is the case D:
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Kubrik version, right? He wasn't proud of that film, mostly because of how he had to tweak the content just to get it approved.
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Kubrik version, yes. I know about the censor, but my personal opinion is: They should have waited. Because Kubrik's movie completely butchered Lolita's innocence.
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It probably still is too soon for a movie like that. Some books just resist translation to the film medium.
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I don't think Lolita can ever turn into a film. There are too many layers in Nabokov's narration that motion pictures will never be able to show.
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True, a lot of the clever language gets lost.
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And, generally, the reader's sympathy for Humbert through verbal assasination of prejudice gets lost as well. That's the most magical part of the book.
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Saying LolitaXHumbert is OTP is like saying RomeoXJuliet is OTP.
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LolitaxHumbert? Sliiightly wrong.
I'd go with AnnabelxHumbert if I were you, it's a pity she died.
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well, edward x bella is even more wrong, so is kagome x inuyasha.
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LOL how is KagomexInyusha wrong...even though I dislike Kagome XD
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... You understand that was a joke, riiight?
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:/ na really. I just always thought Annabel was cooler than Lo
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