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Charshee In reply to KraeleAndBremon [2013-02-19 05:11:46 +0000 UTC]

To begin with, it retains the shape of the physical form. But as time progresses, it become's it's true shape: Energy.

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merrypranxter In reply to Tavy13 [2010-07-16 13:15:26 +0000 UTC]

no idea really. it hasn't even happened to me in a long time. which blows.

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Tavy13 In reply to merrypranxter [2010-07-16 13:26:30 +0000 UTC]

awww...

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haileyiswin In reply to Tavy13 [2010-08-24 01:01:13 +0000 UTC]

Well, here is what I used to do before I got used to it..

Step one- GET RELAXED. Lay down. NO BLANKETS, HEAVY CLOTHES, OR JEWELRY.

Step two- Envision the focus point, a little gray dot, you see it when you have your eyes closed. FOLLOW IT. DO NOT LOSE IT. Move forward with your mind, chasing it.

Step three- You will come to a spiraling vortex type thing, and your focus point will go into it. You will get random images to distract you, but do not lose your focus point! You will see some pretty freaky stuff. KEEP WATCHING THAT LITTLE DOT AND FOLLOW IT WHATEVER YOU DO DO NOT LOSE IT!

Step four- You will come to a stopping point, it will be like you are in space. There will be stars all around you(like this picture) and you can look left and right. If you want to continue, continue, but you will be pretty beat up by the time you get to this point.

Step five (if you continued)- Keep going and follow your dot. It will be like a rollercoaster trying to lose you. You will see things your mind has created, and somethings you have never seen, which is epic!

Step six- You will emerge in the Astral Plane, go do what you like, remember nothing can hurt you EVER in this world, there is nothing to be afraid of. If you can't move with your Astral body, try giving telekinetic commands or vocal commands. You can be in space, go to a city, go to the ocean, BE A FREAKING MERMAID IF YA WANT! If you want to go back to the "real" world, just think of your body and POP your back in

*note this way may scare you when you follow your dot, the images you see in the vortex may shake you up a bit, just remember you can't get hurt with your Astral body

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Lover50 In reply to haileyiswin [2013-12-29 06:03:05 +0000 UTC]

This Info Helps Alot ! (:

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VioletSoldier In reply to haileyiswin [2011-04-27 01:49:29 +0000 UTC]

First, i wanna say thanks for your information. Secondly, I got a fe questions if you dont mind.

1) "the images you see in the vortex may shake you up a bit". What kind of images are we talking about that are so disturbing?

2)"You will see things your mind has created, and somethings you have never seen, which is epic!". Could you gimmie an example of something epic from your experience, if you dont mind?

3) I've been at this since November 2010, but I been trying on and off. I either freak out before my body can even enter paralysis, or I lose motivation because i dont make any progress. What do you suggest?

4)I heard of this method alot actually, but I cant seem to get that dot to even start the process. Anything I could be doing wrong?

Thanks for your time

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haileyiswin In reply to VioletSoldier [2011-05-02 01:05:16 +0000 UTC]

1) Very odd things. Somewhat scary. I saw a person who looked like they had been fused with a slug and it was begging to die. You may see objects. But I guarantee you'll see things that you'll never see on this plane.

2) Oh! I saw this amazing creature. It flashed all sorts of colors, and had three eyes. There were no pupils in these eyes, suggesting it was blind.

3) If you freak out or feel fear, you aren't ready. Fear is what will keep you in your physical body, or at least you won't be conscious when you do Astral Project. Just stop until you feel you are ready, nothing can hurt you. Just remember you can't get hurt. If you lose motivation, there's no need to force yourself into wanting to do it. Just take a break for a while if you need to. Start back up when you are ready. And you won't get it right the first few tries, it can take a long time to master. Just don't give up.

4) Try to see the dot by visualizing it, even if it isn't burned into your brain. Visualizing works well.

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VioletSoldier In reply to haileyiswin [2011-05-02 07:06:04 +0000 UTC]

1) wow thats so awesome, and I heard you would see un-imaginable things! What was exactly happening while you were observing the tormented creature? What I mean is, were you in the dreamworld or were you consciously aware that you were lying down falling asleep still? Was the creature screaming? Was it begging you or just calling out for anyone?

2)You should record/draw the things you see, i would love that!

3)Youre right! I will NEVER give up! And I will move at a natural pace.

4)Ok, I'll try my best!

Sorry to ask you these questions, lol, i just find AP so interesting, especially since I cant do it.....at least not yet.

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haileyiswin In reply to VioletSoldier [2011-05-02 20:56:40 +0000 UTC]

1) It was just screaming for help in agony. I don't think it was calling out directly to me. I was still consciously asleep, I hadn't left my body.

2) I have a dream journal I occasionally use. I doodle in it from time to time xD. I might put up a few things from my experiences soon.

3) Just don't lose that state of mind .

4) Good luck, and good travels!

It's alright! I don't mind eheh. Ask away.

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VioletSoldier In reply to haileyiswin [2011-05-02 21:27:07 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! How often do you AP? I heard the more you do it, the more it will happen naturally on its own. I heard you can do it at any time, even while your awake, if you keep practicing it.

I'm assuming you saw this creature from first person, as if you were looking through binoculars? Its not like you walk up to it, right? lol, i probably dont make sense. Oh, and how long is the wait between the paralysis stage and exit stage? LOL, I dont wanna sit there and see bio-freaks forever, or whatever my mind stirs up for me to see.

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haileyiswin In reply to VioletSoldier [2011-05-02 22:36:08 +0000 UTC]

Whenever I need a break xD. I go anywhere. I usually use a different technique, which is quicker if you're more experienced. But it hardly works for beginners, or else I'd be sharing it instead of that one. And yes, sometimes I am conscious when an unexpected projection happens.

Yes, it wasn't as if I were watching a movie of myself xD. I've watched myself sleep quite a bit. And talked with a dead man. Anyway, it depends. My first time using this method took what seemed like 10 minutes. It could've been longer or shorter. I have no idea xD.

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VioletSoldier In reply to haileyiswin [2011-05-04 16:57:43 +0000 UTC]

Can you do it in a lightly lit room? Some sunlight naturslly comes through my window , even with the blinds turned. Can light be an issue?

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haileyiswin In reply to VioletSoldier [2011-05-04 19:35:59 +0000 UTC]

With this method, somewhat. It depends on how visible the dot is when your eyes are closed when sunlight is behind the closed eyelids.

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VioletSoldier In reply to haileyiswin [2011-05-04 20:20:36 +0000 UTC]

Ok, I JUST tried it like 2 hours ago (after i sent the earlier message).
Ok, so i actually watched myself fall asleep and I felt the paralysis, then the tingling sensation. While watching myself, I never saw any strange creatures, starfields, shapes, or any of that jazz. Heres where the tricky part already comes in; I've felt these "vibrations" before, but I'm not sure if these are real vibrations or not. It felt like tingling, BUT theres this sound that always goes of during what I think is the vibrational stage. The best way I can explain it is like an aura-ish noise, sorry thats the best I can come up with . I immediately released both my fears and my excitement and tried to use the rollout technique to leave my body, and I THINK it worked. Now heres the second tricky part. I DID feel my spirit exit my body, and as soon as I got out, it took a few seconds for me to gain vision, but the bs thing is, I only had vision in one eye! Is this even possible? I immediately started floating around since walking didnt work for me. Everything had a blue tint to it, but the only things I could see was my walls and my floor and my alarm clock, which read something like '00:24' except there were no zeros in the hour part, but there was like a mini 23 or a 24 in the minutes part. I remember being frustrated because of my suckish vision. I remember trying to make sure it wasnt a dream, so I floated around more along the walls because staying close to the walls felt safer since I sould barely see anything and I tried to lick the wall,. I believe I was in my room for the whole time because of my alram clock being there. Since my vision sucked, I couldnt look back and see if I was lying on the bed(to confirm if it was an obe). There were no shadow people or voices or creatures, it was just me. For some reason I tried to teleport myself to the sun because anything would be better than what was happening to me now......sadly it didnt work, lol. I remember being frustrated that this experience was my first obe(maybe), AND IT WAS SUCKING! I tried to think of my body to return from this seemingly cheap experience. But no matter how much I thought of my body, I wasnt going back. So I had to wait it out being half blind the whole time. I remember I kept leaving my body multiple times, like 2 or 3 times because I thought I was back in the physical plane, but I started wondering why i was still half blind, then it hit me that I was still oob. Eventually I woke up and had mixed feelings because I was SUPER excited that I possibly had an obe, but at the same time pissed because it sucked!

So what do you think? Was this just a dream that resulted from my eagerness to get out of my body, or was this a real deal obe?

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haileyiswin In reply to VioletSoldier [2011-05-04 20:33:24 +0000 UTC]

No two experiences are the same, and this is actually a normal thing for you to go through. Whether it was a dream or not is up to you to decide, but the vibrations tell me it was an obe. As for the trouble being teleported, did you try thinking you were there instead of just thinking of the place? It'll take a few tries to get used to moving in the astral body, anyway. Some people pick up on it right away, but practice makes perfect.

As for your suckish experience and the half blindness, it could always be that this was just a glimpse, peering in with one eye closed? That'd also explain the hard time you had teleporting from place to place. I suggest meditating. And, if you'd like, I can note you another method called the 'Monroe Technique', if you haven't already tried it .

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VioletSoldier In reply to haileyiswin [2011-05-04 21:12:32 +0000 UTC]

I'm all ears, school me.

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haileyiswin In reply to VioletSoldier [2011-05-04 21:37:17 +0000 UTC]

Noting you now :3

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VioletSoldier In reply to haileyiswin [2011-05-05 14:40:21 +0000 UTC]

Whew
Just got done reading all that. I wanna thank you for being so willing to help me and being so open to share your experiences. I know SOME experiences can be personal, but thanks for even deciding to share that information. I'm gonna try it really soon actually, and I hope it's much better than the other one.

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merrypranxter In reply to SpiritMountain [2010-02-17 19:26:44 +0000 UTC]

oh good! you've been there too then lol

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SpiritMountain In reply to merrypranxter [2010-02-20 12:15:17 +0000 UTC]

Well, not exactly the same place lol but I've been between the stars.
Flying is great isn't it?

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