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Description EDIT: Would like to clarify something- which I'll edit into the image itself when I can. Essentially, Paralogos center themselves around the essence and/or understood of a word- that's where their design influence comes from. That is also their focus of interest.

They do also love language in general, and also words too, but it is more of a connection to what a word really means, which can be influenced by the language it comes from/how a culture that developed a language sees a term. Good example, the word 'dog' vs. 'inu'. (English / Japanese)

When you say dog to an English speaker, mainly American I'll say here- they might think of a Golden Retriever. When you say 'inu', or when someone from Japan thinks of that term, they may think of a Shiba Inu, which is traditionally a much more common dog in Japan than Golden Retrievers. Does that make sense?

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Well they are a word-based species.
Hence most of this is words.

Unlike other species that may be around on DA and elsewhere- I don't have a set of common/uncommon/rare traits for these little ones. 
The context of the word influences the design to a huge degree. I don't plan to restrict features for any word, common (concrete) or abstract (rare). 

Pretty much if anyone is confused, look at other confirmed designs or just ask me about a feature! I'm still figuring some things out myself too.

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These are a CLOSED species. You cannot make an official one without my confirmation. 
Honestly just ask me about Make Your Own events and when I'll be opening requests. I'm still getting my feet wet and the group needs more members and Paralogos- so I imagine for a little while at least these little ones will be easy-ish to get!

Like totally, go over to the group and check it out!

List of currently taken words is here

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mewhaku In reply to ??? [2017-01-06 13:28:35 +0000 UTC]

Ah yes, this isn't on the sheet but-

Accessories are fine. Taming (one of the designers) oftentimes draws accessories on her designs too.  
As for your other question-

Good news, there are two current examples!
The main thing is that this type of thing shouldn't be incorporated unless it's necessary to the design. 

Since you're here by the by, I'd like to see if you have any input-- what would you like to see on the updated species sheet for these guys?

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Inkcess In reply to mewhaku [2017-01-06 13:35:10 +0000 UTC]

Oh, thank you! I wasn't sure whether Milly's flowers were part of her body or not XD also I was wondering how would paralogos based on other dinosaurs work? And also what if there was a paralogos whose word was 'parasaurolophus'?

I can't think of anything rn, but I'll get back to you if I do!

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mewhaku In reply to Inkcess [2017-01-06 22:51:06 +0000 UTC]

I believe they're an accessory! But you might want to ask Aquila. I think they're what one may consider a "necessary" accessory, or at least something very often worn.

Now that's the fun part of this- me+admins have been talking about that. There are certain words we will not allow currently for MYOs, but that's mainly due to other issues.
In theory we've reserved some of the dino-names precisely for special events. Or at least that's one idea in mind.

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Inkcess In reply to mewhaku [2017-01-07 04:14:20 +0000 UTC]

Ok, I'll do that!

oh, cool!

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mewhaku In reply to Inkcess [2017-01-07 14:10:42 +0000 UTC]

Yep! We'll get there.

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cutevulpix56 [2016-10-30 00:42:17 +0000 UTC]

Oh my gosh this species is so creative!! I just love the concept <33

Will it be possible to order a custom of these guys? <3

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mewhaku In reply to cutevulpix56 [2016-10-30 01:12:01 +0000 UTC]

Aw thank you!
Now did you want a custom? Or did you want a Make Your Own slot?
MYO slots are indeed, where you make the design yourself. We currently sell them via ink, the group's currency!
Ink Market
(You can buy Ink with Points/USD currency as well.)

If you'd like a custom (as in, you pick word and someone designs for you), you can check our 
Group Artists
page. Then you can totally like, talk to them about rates! They can vary between artists.

Please do excuse our pages if anything looks a little in need of updating, we've had a lot of work going on in the group recently! If you have any questions, please do ask. 

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cutevulpix56 In reply to mewhaku [2016-10-30 01:21:50 +0000 UTC]

Alright! I think I have an idea of what it is I'm looking for? I'm not exactly sure how to 'trait' or figure him out though, so maybe it'd be better to just describe it first and go from there? ;v; 

I saw a bunch of really cool different concepts of these guys based on animals, and since my favorite animals are ravens, I was wondering if I could get a MYO slot or custom for one? I saw some fur for the wolf one and adorable insect wings on the dragonfly one, so I was wondering if feathering or even small wings would be acceptable for a paralogo based on a raven?

Sorry if that's not very helpful or rambly or I'm being inconvenient for you ;-;

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tamingofthesandshrew In reply to cutevulpix56 [2016-10-30 03:26:11 +0000 UTC]

Hey there! just wanted to introduce myself - i'm ellie aka taming! looks like youve decided to go with Velox for your custom - good choice! they're a sweetheart. if you ever have any questions about drawing or design advice, let me know! and if you ever want another custom, mine are always open so you dont have to worry about me being too busy or anything cx welcome to the group! i hope you enjoy it!! c:

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cutevulpix56 In reply to tamingofthesandshrew [2016-10-30 03:28:10 +0000 UTC]

Oh my gosh everyone here is so nice ;v;

Thanks!! X3 I very well may, we'll see ;v; Your art is super gorgeous, so I very well may inquire about customs from you at some point X33

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tamingofthesandshrew In reply to cutevulpix56 [2016-10-30 03:50:16 +0000 UTC]

aaaa yeah we're all pretty friendly!! its a great group to be a part of ;w;

great! c: id be more than happy to help~

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cutevulpix56 In reply to tamingofthesandshrew [2016-10-30 04:04:48 +0000 UTC]

It definitely seems like it ;v;

Thanks <333

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aquilala In reply to cutevulpix56 [2016-10-30 01:44:29 +0000 UTC]

Hi there! Seeing myself being mentioned I can't help but butt in xD
Feel free to ignore this if you've already decided on an artist.

I'd be more than happy to help with a custom! As mewhaku mentioned, how artists may interpret the word may vary. I myself, for a word like Raven, would definitely add wings similar to those on bat  but you may prefer something else or more complex designs. Obviously my designs are not as good as tamingofthesandshrew (kudos to you sweetie! ILY) so I might offer a lower rate than her but it's up for discussion! 

If you're interested feel free to note me! Best of luck choosing an artist for your custom! 
I would personally recommend tamingofthesandshrew :3

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tamingofthesandshrew In reply to aquilala [2016-10-30 03:22:51 +0000 UTC]

YALL TOO CUTE im gunna cry how sweet//

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aquilala In reply to tamingofthesandshrew [2016-10-30 03:23:51 +0000 UTC]

ILY BOO

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tamingofthesandshrew In reply to aquilala [2016-10-30 03:26:25 +0000 UTC]

ILYM

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aquilala In reply to tamingofthesandshrew [2016-10-30 04:01:12 +0000 UTC]

<333333

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cutevulpix56 In reply to aquilala [2016-10-30 01:57:01 +0000 UTC]

Aaaaahhhh I actually put an offer on Bat :'D Their design is so cute! It's actually what got me into checking out the species as a whole, so thank you! <33

In terms of design, It'd probably just be a gradient of charcoal to black up towards the spine, maybe with a cream-colored cresent around the neck like some breeds of domesticated ravens haev; the most complex thing I'd inquire about would be possibly giving them scaly front and hind legs like most birds have

I actually really like both of your guys' art so idk XDXD I'd probably go with you though since the design isn't crazy complicated or anything, and I feel a sentimental value with your designs now ;v;

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aquilala In reply to cutevulpix56 [2016-10-30 02:03:51 +0000 UTC]

I'm so glad Bat got you into the group! So happy that submitting the adopt to a million different groups was for a good cause xD

Design-wise, I like what you have thought up so far, it really does reflect what a Raven would look like. A "scaly" front and hind legs can be easily portrayed with markings although I can inquire about having actually "scales". As far as traits go, they are rather flexible as long as they stick to the original theme! While Taming's designs are absolutely drop dead gorgeous, I get where you're coming from. Sometimes I just can't draw them! 

Let me know when you've decided, it's rather hard isn't it? :3c

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cutevulpix56 In reply to aquilala [2016-10-30 02:08:31 +0000 UTC]

Know the feeling XD

Sure! It'd be kinda like scaly plates in a way - the best description I can give for what it looks like would be like a snake's belly (kinda like this www.thaipulse.com/blog/wp-cont…   )
If that's not ok that's perfectly fine <33 I just thought it'd look cool and very avian-esque with the similar legs <3

It totally is, you guys both have lovely designs imo XD 

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aquilala In reply to cutevulpix56 [2016-10-30 02:11:45 +0000 UTC]

Oh if that's what you meant, it's definitely a GO for the belly/front!
Scaly legs might me a lil weird but I'll check with the admins! <3

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cutevulpix56 In reply to aquilala [2016-10-30 02:16:11 +0000 UTC]

I actually just meant that type of plating for the legs (like back legs and maybe front feet/hands, like such s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/o…  ) - I just wasn't sure how to describe it otherwise XD Although it may look cool with the belly like that too, make it more reptilian-like as well as avian :>

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aquilala In reply to cutevulpix56 [2016-10-30 02:27:11 +0000 UTC]

Alright! I'm sure whoever you end up working with will produce something you'll be very satisfied with! <33

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cutevulpix56 In reply to aquilala [2016-10-30 02:30:05 +0000 UTC]

Alright X3 I'd personally prefer asking you though if that's ok ;v;

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aquilala In reply to cutevulpix56 [2016-10-30 02:53:08 +0000 UTC]

Of course! Feel free to shoot any amount of questions at me until you've decided!

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cutevulpix56 In reply to aquilala [2016-10-30 02:54:07 +0000 UTC]

Alrighty! What kind of a price am I lookin at? X3

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aquilala In reply to cutevulpix56 [2016-10-30 02:57:02 +0000 UTC]

Hmmmm, ideally I'd like to start pricing higher than what my adopts have been selling for (200~) and go a tad higher! Since it's a custom, the pricing would be around the lines of 400? The groups been doing its best to raise the worth of the species and not underselling.

If 400 points is too much for you, let me know and we can negotiate :0

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cutevulpix56 In reply to aquilala [2016-10-30 02:57:59 +0000 UTC]

No, 400 sounds great! A lvl 3 MYO with ink costs like 350 anyways, and your art is definitely worth it! X3 

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aquilala In reply to cutevulpix56 [2016-10-30 03:00:04 +0000 UTC]

Oh very well! The conversion does sound right, perhaps my adopts should be selling for around 300-400 then haha
So is it decided, shall I start sketching out some rough ideas for Raven or would you rather take some time and sit on it some more?
might have to raise the min. amount for bat then :3c

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cutevulpix56 In reply to aquilala [2016-10-30 03:10:02 +0000 UTC]

Then again, MYO's do typically cost more since you're basically being given the rights to mess around with traits and design and such directly, so idk X'D 

Nah I'm good! X3 

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aquilala In reply to cutevulpix56 [2016-10-30 03:19:24 +0000 UTC]

Does this mean you won't be getting a custom? :0

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cutevulpix56 In reply to aquilala [2016-10-30 03:21:20 +0000 UTC]

No I still would love a custom please! X3 Just saying that while customs typically cost more than, say, adopts, MYO's cost even more than that XD

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aquilala In reply to cutevulpix56 [2016-10-30 03:21:58 +0000 UTC]

Alrighty then! Should I get started or will you still talk to Taming about her prices?

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cutevulpix56 In reply to aquilala [2016-10-30 03:26:37 +0000 UTC]

Nah I'll stick with you if that's ok X3 

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aquilala In reply to cutevulpix56 [2016-10-30 04:00:59 +0000 UTC]

Alright then!  Send the 400 points over via give and I'll get started tomorrow morning! :3c

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cutevulpix56 In reply to aquilala [2016-10-30 04:05:33 +0000 UTC]

Sent em! <33

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aquilala In reply to cutevulpix56 [2016-10-30 14:09:59 +0000 UTC]


What do you think? Should I start colouring? Is there anything you want me to change?
If you think everything is good, what kind of markings/colours did you want?

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cutevulpix56 In reply to aquilala [2016-10-31 05:16:36 +0000 UTC]

Aaahh they look great so far! X3 

-I really like the longer sail, it looks great on them X3
-I'd prefer male please X3
-Possibly clawed/bird-esque front paws/hands? <3
-Pallet: Dark browns/greys gradient darker up to the spine with a fully black pinstripe down the snout, sail, and back, white crescent around the neck (kinda like this www.rawnaturephoto.com/ImageLi… maybe ending in two little points down on the chest X3 ), all or mostly black tail, ice/teal blue eyes

<33

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aquilala In reply to cutevulpix56 [2016-11-05 20:51:03 +0000 UTC]

Hiya! So I couldn't do everything you described as it was a little hard to work with all the blacks so I hope this is a good start:

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cutevulpix56 In reply to aquilala [2016-11-06 00:38:06 +0000 UTC]

oh my gosh no it's fine - he looks amazing! I actually really like this design more tbh, thank you so much <333

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aquilala In reply to cutevulpix56 [2016-11-06 00:56:16 +0000 UTC]

Waaaa alrighty! I'll go ahead and post the design then! <3

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cutevulpix56 In reply to aquilala [2016-11-06 00:57:04 +0000 UTC]

   <3

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mewhaku In reply to cutevulpix56 [2016-10-30 01:29:23 +0000 UTC]

They would be! The main thing with this species, since it doesn't have an official trait system- is basically this:
- It needs to be directly related to the word in question
- It can be something you, the creator, see as really important in the 'idea' of the word.

Basically- we don't want people drawing wings on something like... rock. Or lamp. Y'know, obvious.

Ravens, since they all do have wings, of course can have feathering or small wings. Mousefighteru chose to make her Robin (I know I can't spell the actual word) more feathered, no actual 'small wings'. tamingofthesandshrew added feather-spines to the idea of Zephyr-- wind/air. VeloxAquila , in recent bug batch, actually chose to make tiny wings for insects.

I myself would most likely make small feathering on arms, or very tiny shoulder wings.

So depending on whether you want to design it yourself, or get an official artist to make one for you- you'd just have to choose who you want to work for you! 
tamingofthesandshrew I know does lower level words (like Raven) at around $4/400 Points for example. I can gather more information/art examples of our artists for you if you'd like. ^_^

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cutevulpix56 In reply to mewhaku [2016-10-30 01:42:48 +0000 UTC]

Ah ok! yeah I totally get the wings on rocks and lamps and such XD He'd be at Level 3 I think, with the word very distinctly "Raven"

He'd be a dark charcoal to inky-black pallet (maybe a little white or brown given some ravens' breeds), very curious and crafty and enjoy mimicking sounds and things
I'd probably go with the feathering on the arms, maybe a teeny bit on the rump just above the tail; I feel like since it doesn't seem like much of the species flies, he'd probably just climb around

As for artists I'm not entirely sure, I don't want to disturb anybody ;v;

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mewhaku In reply to cutevulpix56 [2016-10-30 01:43:48 +0000 UTC]

Oh really, they won't be bothered! I'll see if anyone is around since I'm a tad busy tonight.

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cutevulpix56 In reply to mewhaku [2016-10-30 01:44:52 +0000 UTC]

Ok, thank you so much for your help ;v; I wouldn't mind an MYO slot to avoid bothering people, but I couldn't find the points-to-ink ratio X'DMaybe I'm just super blind tho XD 

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mewhaku In reply to cutevulpix56 [2016-10-30 01:46:13 +0000 UTC]

I am a dumb dumb, it is 5 points to 1 ink essentially. We have the ratio like that to encourage people drawing to gain currency! Anyway, Aquila is around currently- I know Taming is a bit busy tonight.

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cutevulpix56 In reply to mewhaku [2016-10-30 01:48:04 +0000 UTC]

Ahh ok! Thanks! X3 

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mewhaku In reply to cutevulpix56 [2016-10-30 01:48:46 +0000 UTC]

Mouse probably has the most experience with birds as well. But yeah- sorry I'm too busy to take on this for you at the moment!

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cutevulpix56 In reply to mewhaku [2016-10-30 01:50:30 +0000 UTC]

Nono it's fine, thank you so much you're a huge help ;v; 

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