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Miarath In reply to FractalMonster [2019-01-16 22:38:47 +0000 UTC]

I've tried several but I always got back to using Xubuntu. 
Used to use a distribution that was based on Debian Sid back than, until it got no longer updated properly.

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FractalMonster In reply to Miarath [2019-01-16 22:53:14 +0000 UTC]

You are looking to the depth of the OS and run a light desktop (Xfce). Every distro I have run for a while (Ubuntu, Mint, elemetaryOS, Peppermint) is Ubuntu/Debian based. I'll maybe will test Bunsenlabs on my slowest 32 bits machine and Manjaro Gnome on a 64 bits machine, the later is Arch based. You see I'm obsessed with cool non traditional desktops

But all the above is also for deciding which distro I'm going to replace Win7 on my stationary with when that OS eventually stops working. I also must have Wine in order to run Ultra Fractal, the only software I really need Windows for ..

BTW, I think I remember you've mentioned Xubuntu before *senile*

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Miarath In reply to FractalMonster [2019-01-16 22:59:50 +0000 UTC]

I have tested Bunsenlabs a while ago on another machine. It's a nice, well, extremly
light distro needing very little memory and cpu power. However the downside to that is that it is based
on pretty much outdated Debian core, which means you have lots of work to do if you
want to run any current software on it or it might not be possible at all.
Installing Nvidia driver is hard core, which drove me nuts on fixing the issue so I returned to Xubuntu, 
which can also be configured to be even more lightweight as it is by default by choosing
another window manager (yes, that is still possible.).
No worries there, it's been a while.

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FractalMonster In reply to Miarath [2019-01-16 23:26:07 +0000 UTC]

However on an about 12 years old EeePC originally having XP? What's important is that Firefox and Thunderbird, have regular updates and the verson of Libre Office is at least 5.

Thank you SO much for your opinions. You as a programmer is really  into the depth of Linux in opposite to me being focused on cool desktops

Yeah, times goes so fast

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Miarath In reply to FractalMonster [2019-01-17 14:09:21 +0000 UTC]

Yes, it's true about having an current browser, but that's were it gets difficult with older Debian core, because current software also needs current c  and c++ libraries so it could happen that you cannot install the most current browser if they don't offer an statically linked version of the software.
I'm happy about your trust in my experience, albeit my view is not so much of a programmer as an experienced linux user who has tried many things over the years. I really haven't been programming anything in years I'm afraid.
I used to do many things manually, but right now I only care for a stable and working OS that does what I need it to do,  nothing more and nothing less.

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FractalMonster In reply to Miarath [2019-01-17 19:57:46 +0000 UTC]

OK, when we'll hope that Bunsenlabs by the time also updates it's core Yeah, at last ONE computer with stable updated software is necessary. Then I take my Win7 stationary at side. Of cause I trust your experience You are probably the only one (besides my friend Greenseng) who understand Cubics and have written test software for it I'll guess you did it for your Linux machine? Do you have any machine left running Windows?

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Miarath In reply to FractalMonster [2019-01-17 20:17:32 +0000 UTC]

To be honest there are backports for Bunsenlabs but that can get kinda complicated if you are trying to figure out which packets you need to install to run a software that needs a specific version of the c/c++ libraries.
Actually I wrote my fractal app not for any specific OS but in Java, meaning that I actaulyl wrote code for the app under Windows, Linux and Mac OS X (Power PC) and finally under Linux again.
I could run my app anywhere depending the appropiate Java runtime is available.
Yes, I have currently left exact one machine running Windows, which is Blackbox - but that is my workstation which I am not using to surf the net at all. Windows in this is a necessarity since the other option would be a Mac, which is way too expensive for the computing power I need.

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FractalMonster In reply to Miarath [2019-01-17 21:27:17 +0000 UTC]

OK, one has to figure out those packets oneself. That's a little bit pity, cause for a while ago I tested Bunsenlabs from an USB stick and I must say that I found the desktop cool. 

Blackbox = Virtual machine? And I guess for software like UF. I am in fact connected to Internet from my Win7 machine as little as possible. I don't trust Microsoft a shit

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Miarath In reply to FractalMonster [2019-01-17 21:36:06 +0000 UTC]

Yes, indeed you have to figure out which ones your software needs for itself, although the software tells you that yourself (if you compile your own software packet ) or it is listed on the download side or in packet manager.
No Blackbox is my workstation computer, not a virtual machine, which would not make much sense with cpu and gpu intensitive things anyway.
See here:
 
For surfing I am using Ghost right now:

And yes, Blackbox is running Windows 10, but only because the hardware made it necessary.
Whatever, it does not make much difference considering I have most unneeded services disabled and the machine is usually offline anyway and with offline I mean exactly that as in disconnected LAN cable. 

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FractalMonster In reply to Miarath [2019-01-17 21:54:47 +0000 UTC]

Then I look forward Manjaro Gnome on an old 64 bit machine

OK, You like me have no Wifi at home? I also totally disconnect my machines when not on the Internet. Then my in my Win7 machine wuauclt.exe can't call NSA up every 30 minute

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Miarath In reply to FractalMonster [2019-01-17 22:17:41 +0000 UTC]

Well, I do have wifi, but I use that only for my mobile devices. I can disable that if I like, too. My PCs got only to use LAN connection cause there's no use in using a slower and less secure connection if one can have a better one.
I haven't used Windows to surf for ages now. I used to use a iBook as my main internet computer but that's a long time ago now.

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FractalMonster In reply to Miarath [2019-01-17 22:47:39 +0000 UTC]

That's a really wise usage of your computer units

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Miarath In reply to FractalMonster [2019-01-17 22:54:33 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, well, I don't see the need for my work horse being connected to the net when it isn't necessary.  An usb key or usb hard disk does the job just fine in tranferring files when needed too, considering that the machines are maybe about 30 cm away from each other so network is overkill.

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FractalMonster In reply to Miarath [2019-01-17 23:14:38 +0000 UTC]

I often do the same when transferring documents. For example this evenings fractal uploads where transferred using an USB stick from my stationery, where they where rendered to my Lenovo, running elementaryOS from which they where uploaded (and I am writing this from)

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Miarath In reply to slowdog294 [2019-01-16 21:53:51 +0000 UTC]

Nah, the iso was fine. It was a BIOS setting that didn't work with the Linux or any unix derivate thereof I had enabled together with another one I wanted to activate. Not exactly secure boot since this was an older board, but it had some sort of excutable protection available I think. 

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slowdog294 In reply to Miarath [2019-01-16 22:43:08 +0000 UTC]

Glad you found and fixed the problem. Would be interested in the details...

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Miarath In reply to slowdog294 [2019-01-16 22:52:39 +0000 UTC]

Yes, indeed I found the issue. I guess it was caused me trying several things to since I didn't seem to get AMT disabled on the board and you know as it is if an situation does not seem logical at all you try things that you normally wouldn't.
In the end I also managed to disable AMT figuring it was that the num pad was automatically enabled without there any visible sign of. 
After disabling the num pad the password worked fine. 
Unfortunately things didn't work out as I had wanted to meaning, I couldn't both keep the machine cool and quite no matter what I tried because of the small case so I have put it for now into storage figuring that I have currently all the computers I need and space is rare in my room enough as it is.

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slowdog294 In reply to Miarath [2019-01-22 15:34:19 +0000 UTC]

This is good news. GLad to hear all is well. I understand the need to save space. Fortunately, my new office has room for several machines. Listing the machines I now have...

Spanky - Custom workstation - Windows 7 Pro/Linux Mint - Xeon E31246 - 32GB
Mister T - Dell Precision T3600 workstation - Windows 7 Pro - Xeon E32670 - 16GB
Delilah - Custom server - Windows 7 Pro - Xeon X3360 - 8GB
Buster - Custom workstation - Windows 7 Pro - Xeon E31230 - 16GB
Embla - Custom server - Windows 7 Pro - Core i5 - 16GB
Zeke - Dell XPS400 workstation - Windows 7 Home Premium - P4 - 8GB
Duck - Dell Optiplex 755 streamer - Windows 7 Pro - Xeon 3060 - 8GB
Nanook - Dell Dimension 530 server - Windows 7 Pro - Core2Duo - 8GB
Rosita - Dell Optiplex 755 streamer - Core2Duo - 8GB
Mojo - Dell Latitude D820 laptop - Windows XP Pro - Pentium 4 - 4GB
Dwarf - Sylvania palmtop - Windows CE - ARM - 512MB
Tex - Dell Dimension server - Windows XP Pro - Pentium 4 - 2GB

Twelve computers - lots of stuff taking up lots of space...

Computers under construction...

Duke - Custom Server - Linux Mint - Dual Xeon - 64GB
Frankie - Custom workstation - Windows XP Pro - Pentium 4 - 2GB

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Miarath In reply to slowdog294 [2019-01-22 23:21:37 +0000 UTC]

That is a lot indeed. You know my little Ghost, right? Turns out he's powerful enough to handle being my computer for online, music, some photo editing with Gimp and even editing a short Hd video.

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slowdog294 In reply to Miarath [2019-01-23 02:51:09 +0000 UTC]

Ghost is a wonderful machine.

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