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Description We love because he first loved us. If anyone says, β€œI love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen cannot love God whom he has not seen. And this commandment we have from him: whoever loves God must also love his brother. (1 John 4:19-21)

Acts 2:14-41 tells us that Christ came to teach love, forgiveness, and mercy, and ultimately in the penal substitution atonement that was His sacrifice was the forgiveness of His Father to those who accept Him (John 3:16). But we cannot forget: Though Jesus loved these people so much He would do this, praying and dying for them, He still requires sinners to be told of their sin so they may repent and receive forgiveness.

Any Christian who hates gay people (such as the WBC) is not a Christian but a worker of iniquity who will be denied by Christ upon their judgement (Matthew 7:21-23). A true Christian will embrace with loving kindness and mercy any gay man or woman, but a true Christian cannot not say anything.

Why?

Because we love you too much to not say anything.
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Comments: 15

Hollow-Enigma [2017-11-16 00:31:02 +0000 UTC]

Amen!

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TheCaptainsMate [2017-09-16 04:09:10 +0000 UTC]

Nah, you can, and it would be better if you did- because the hurtful and really ignorant things you people say to and about lgbt people, causes depression, suicide and a ton of other problems lgbt people don't deserve, especially not at -your- hands, if your god is real, let -him- do the teach and judging -not- you

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iceandra [2015-07-02 18:07:09 +0000 UTC]

Amen to that!

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Rakshiel-MoGaidren [2013-08-19 02:17:16 +0000 UTC]

You've hit close to what I have been trying to articulate for a long time with the people I talk with. For the most part I do not share my beliefs with people, because they do not accept it as my choice, and leave me in peace to follow my path as I do with them. But when asked, I will tell them what I believe, sparing nothing. I have nothing against homosexual people (as individuals) in the slightest, but I cannot accept that the practice of homosexuality as a lifestyle is approved by God because he clearly condemns it, not only that, it is seen as an abomination in his eyes. It's just funny how many people stop talking to me after I share that. Like they cannot accept that someone has nothing against them personally, yet still condemns their lifestyle. I don't hate people, I hate what people do. And I think hate is a strong word even then.Β 

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MicroFrog In reply to Rakshiel-MoGaidren [2013-08-19 18:50:23 +0000 UTC]

The Gospel itself is a highly controversial, highly offensive thing to speak to others about, especially in a day and age where everybody is right and nobody is wrong (except Christians). Telling others what the Bible says about homosexuality is going to land us all in jail one of these days (it already is in Canada).

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Rakshiel-MoGaidren In reply to MicroFrog [2013-08-20 05:17:59 +0000 UTC]

True enough. I just hope when I am bringing my child up that I can instill the same loving respect and patience that I was taught, and bring them to know God in all His mystery.

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Emberblue [2013-08-09 17:23:03 +0000 UTC]

I completely agree.

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PizzaNinja7 [2013-07-24 15:36:56 +0000 UTC]

I just don't want people to burn in hell. I feel that it is my job to tell them that they are doing wrong.

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MicroFrog In reply to PizzaNinja7 [2013-07-24 15:42:43 +0000 UTC]

No Christian wants to see anyone burn in Hell. In fact, I was a universalist for a little while before Scripture showed me how wrong I was about that. Now I realize the importance of the Good News: There's the bad news that we are sinners destined for Hell and eternal separation from God, but the Good News is of Christ and His propitiatory atoning death that we may be reconciled with God.


This should drive us all to go to the ends of the Earth and work hard in bringing that Good News to an unholy world.

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Kelsey-Kat [2013-07-12 23:25:33 +0000 UTC]

Lev 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood [shall be] upon them.

Just so you know, you're committing a sin by not killing homosexuals.

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MicroFrog In reply to Kelsey-Kat [2013-07-12 23:46:05 +0000 UTC]

By referencing Mosaic (Old Testament) law without the context of the New Testament you end up losing a vital understanding of Scripture: The Old Testament is the shadow of the New Testament. Mosaic law was the law of the Old Covenant.

The law, then, was our guardian until Christ, so that we could be justified by faith. (Galatians 3:24)

We are no longer under Mosaic law because Christ came. We're not justified by adhering to the law, we're justified by faith. Therefore, Christians are not meant to follow the law of the Old Testament.

But we do have what Paul says, which is something Christ taught, as Paul was possibly the greatest Christian to have ever lived and was the most prolific in disseminating all teachings of Jesus:

9 Don’t you know that the unrighteous will not inherit God’s kingdom? Do not be deceived: No sexually immoral people, idolaters, adulterers, or anyone practicing homosexuality,[a] 10 no thieves, greedy people, drunkards, verbally abusive people, or swindlers will inherit God’s kingdom. (1 Corinthians 6:9-10)

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Kelsey-Kat In reply to MicroFrog [2013-07-13 19:31:15 +0000 UTC]

Luk 14:26 If any [man] come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

So, you are not truly Jesus's disciple if you love your brother.

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MicroFrog In reply to Kelsey-Kat [2013-07-13 19:44:21 +0000 UTC]

In Luke 14:26, the Greek word for "hate" usually means "death wish", but another sense for this same word is how it pertains to this passage. When used in the OT, in the Wisdom Literature, the word loses it's "death wish" connotation and caries a sense of intense choice. In this passage, the call of Jesus to hate family and self is a call to rejection, not death. If it meant the other context, it would contradict what Jesus frequently said to love everyone, especially family, friends, and the poor, sick, and homeless. The majority of Bible scholars agree that this concept of hate (or rejection) means the same as being loyally subordinate. Hate in this context requires the rejection of loyalty to everyone and everything except Christ our Lord. All other things and people must come second to your relationship with Jesus and pursuit in becoming conformed to His image.

In simple terms, Matthew 10:37 clarifies what Jesus means:

β€œWhoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me, and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me”

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jayragepeace In reply to MicroFrog [2013-07-13 23:04:36 +0000 UTC]

And the victory goes to... Zencircle!

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MicroFrog In reply to jayragepeace [2013-07-14 01:10:04 +0000 UTC]

I'm afraid I can't take the credit, but thanks anyways.

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