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Description Egyptian Pointer Breed Standard (2016)Official Egyptian Pointer Breed Standard
Written 12/9/16

Origin: Egypt
Patronage: Egypt
Date of Publication of the Official Breed Standard: 12.9.2016
Utilization: Versatile, working gundog that has to meet all the necessary challenges and has to be able to work in the field, in the forest and in the water before and after the shot.
Group Classifications:
American Kennel Club (AKC): Sporting GroupUnited Kennel Club (UKC): Gun DogCanadian Kennel Club (CKC): Sporting GroupFederation Cynologique Internationale (FCI): Group 7 - Pointing DogsSection 1.1 - Continental Pointing Dogs, Type “Braque”.Country - Egypt
General Appearance:
Medium to large sized hunting dog that has a conformation which ensures strength, endurance and speed. Expression of intelligence and nobility; head held proudly. Musculature evident in areas of    

A big thanks to Canidae--Mayhem for helping me out with some of these markings and meraukelele for lining the lineart for me. <3

Important Notes:-- The Egyptian Pointer does not come in solid or residual white. Irish is the MINIMUM, even in working lines. 

-- You might be asking me, "Aya, what's the difference between Sable and Agouti vs Grizzle and Domino?" The answer is simple. Grizzle and Domino cannot show masks. They are on the same locus as recessive red, and is considered to be a halfway point between recessive red and fully showing dark pigment. If a dog has Grizzle or Domino and the masking gene, the mask will NOT show up. 

-- Both ticking and speckling can be minor or extensive. Ticking can turn into roan with the roaning gene, but it's not picturing here. 

-- There are liberties with some markings. Sable can be tipped, banded, or shaded. Agouti can be minimal or extended. Saddles can be of any size. Masks will vary. Tan Points can be melanistic.

-- Combinations such as Trindle (Tan Points + Brindle), Brindled Saddles, Brindled Sable, etc do exist and are show quality. 

-- Everything you see above is show quality. All markings and colors possible within the breed are acceptable. 
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Comments: 15

machomustang [2018-08-10 09:45:58 +0000 UTC]

These look amazing!
A friend of mine and I are looking foward to designing ours very soon!

I'd have a question about a certain coat though!
  Would this be considered a liver piebald ticking?

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MidnightAyaDARPG In reply to machomustang [2018-08-11 13:12:03 +0000 UTC]

Yes, correct!

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Black-Dog-Acre [2017-05-23 10:05:20 +0000 UTC]

Will have to get myself a pair of these! Few questions, i know Trindle etc. can be combined, but are there other markings that can be combined such as masked piebald etc.? 

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MidnightAyaDARPG In reply to Black-Dog-Acre [2017-05-23 12:01:27 +0000 UTC]

Oh, certainly. They come in every realistic combination of these markings and colors, although in the case of masked piebald, a mask probably wouldn't show too much since it goes underneath of white. 

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Black-Dog-Acre In reply to MidnightAyaDARPG [2017-05-23 12:46:10 +0000 UTC]

So most combinations work except for those mentioned that cannot be combined? I looked at masked piebalds and got a fewe pictures where the 'mask' comes above the piebald.

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Are black and tan piebalds allowed, too? Just wannt make sure before i actually start them..

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MidnightAyaDARPG In reply to Black-Dog-Acre [2017-05-23 13:00:18 +0000 UTC]

In the French bulldog pictures that you showed, the mask is simply not covered up by white. Especially on the second one, you can see that the black is only around the eyes which is usually not covered up by piebald. If the dog had less white on its face, you'd see more of the mask underneath. In the first picture, it looks like the dog only has a 'blaze' of white on its face which is entirely possible. I've seen piebalds with NO white on the face even, but they usually do.  

The mask on the last image(s) isn't really a full mask over the white per say. It's splotchy and uneven.. The first dog of the three is visibly a masked dog though since it has dark ears and dark around its eyes (which is then covered up by white). I'm not sure what causes this phenomenon. I think you see it more in mastiff breeds (I've seen it in St. Bernards before too).

 
Black and Tan with piebald is perfectly okay too! I have a blue and tan girl with piebald myself (ZKS Skeleton Key ). Just remember if you are adding ticking, the ticking would be black in areas where the black would be (under the white) or tan in areas where the tan would be otherwise. Also, Black and Tan could mean black with tan points, tan with a black saddle, tan with black sable, etc. Lots of possibilities. 

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nekonotaishou In reply to MidnightAyaDARPG [2017-05-23 17:51:14 +0000 UTC]

if you're referring to the black around the noses of the St. Bernards, that is their skin color showing through the short fur, like this topdogtips.com/wp-content/uplo…

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MidnightAyaDARPG In reply to nekonotaishou [2017-05-23 17:52:08 +0000 UTC]

Yess, thank you!

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Black-Dog-Acre In reply to MidnightAyaDARPG [2017-05-23 13:04:36 +0000 UTC]

So more coloring on the head, more you'd see the mask?? 

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MidnightAyaDARPG In reply to Black-Dog-Acre [2017-05-23 13:15:35 +0000 UTC]

Yep! Here is a good visual demonstration of how color forms on dogs:


Akitas are good example of masked dogs with white. This dog here just has a tiny little strip of white. It's really up to you. 

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Black-Dog-Acre In reply to MidnightAyaDARPG [2017-05-23 13:25:39 +0000 UTC]

I'm terrible with genetics, so thanks for the demonstration link! 

Think i might just go for a black and tan piebald and a masked brindled, think it'll be easier and will save my mind fighting over which piebald i want more, as i don't want two pieds xD

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MidnightAyaDARPG In reply to Black-Dog-Acre [2017-05-23 13:39:17 +0000 UTC]

Awesome. C: Just make sure the masked brindle has at least white irish. There are no solid or minimally white dogs in the breed. 

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Black-Dog-Acre In reply to MidnightAyaDARPG [2017-05-23 15:02:00 +0000 UTC]

Will make sure i do, though i planned to put white markings on him/her anyway

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ShockTherapyStables [2017-03-09 21:05:38 +0000 UTC]

Good to finally see a breed that does realistic markings and doesn't make up things in the interest of being a special snowflake. Dogs are beautiful and their natural colors are gorgeous enough. Well done.

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MidnightAyaDARPG In reply to ShockTherapyStables [2017-04-03 14:27:10 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! c: I'm glad to hear that you like them.

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