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Published: 2007-08-12 10:27:23 +0000 UTC; Views: 98094; Favourites: 1175; Downloads: 34280
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I didn´t like the other one very much so I played with the idea a bit, and this came out! thanks for viewing
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I went threw and faved 59 new deviations but I wanted to save this one for last.
Amazing piece of an epic clash between two icons. I shocked this fight has happened legitmately of course.
I echo what said..although "I'm on the Goku'd win depending on which version of Supes is used" crowd.
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hey man, thanks a lot for that
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DAAAAAAAAAANG! Awsome work here. Though personally I can kinda seem em workin togather(seeing how I like both).
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thanks bro, well if you´re seeing them as the characters they are they would never fight..this would be an impossible scene..but they would spare (I mean train with each other) hehe
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thnks a lot Javier, your words mean a lot!thanks for commenting
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Wow, that is true comic book material..! 
One sweet piece of work.
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thanks man, glad you dig it!thanks for commenting
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Great pencils, everything looks great here.
As for the subject.....
talk about no contest! I bet superman is thinking "he's not seriously considering taking me on is he?"
Alex
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thanks friend, wow, really funny you think that way, I actually think that super would actually lose, and you know how big superman fan I am
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Superman will never lose, goku is a wannabe!
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I hope Superman loses. Hes the worlds biggest dick.
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It's always a joy to see you take on Superman. You manage to give him a very strong, larger-than-life presence... Superior indeed.
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thanks man, glad you feel that way, thanks for commenting!
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goku vs super... now thats I must fav ^0^
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An incredible piece of work here. So many have debated about such an altercation, some siding with the Saiya-jin while others side with the Kryptonian...and still some that remain neutral or say that they're the same person.
Me? I feel that the whole altercation in general would be one of astounding proportions.
Very well done, my friend; keep up the great work.
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NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! REALLY?!?!?!?!??! Gosh, you must be wrong, man! They ARE real! I saw them last week on tv, Goku was exploding planets, and Supes was saving cats on trees!!! You're wrong, mister!
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Yes, I know that well. And, with that knowledge, I still debate about it sometimes. All in good fun.
^_^
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well, even though I am a big fan of supes in this case I think goku would win..Í mean a super sayajiin can destroy an entire planet easily, I don´t think superman is up to that...but I wanted this to feel epic, like if they were even matched! thanks a lot for commenting my friend
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I guess you have to read more Superman stories, then. Goku can only blow up planets by using energy blasts/energy beams (and the "energy likes"), etc... ask Goku to destroy a planet with punches and kicks at super speed... now wait a couple of hundred years until he finishes this task. Now, ask Supes to do it, and in less than 5 minutes it's done. Supes already practically destroyed a planet sized moon with a "mere" SINGLE punch (and the moon was not even his target, he WAS on that moon, in mid air, when he punched with full power the death entity from the New God's called "BlackRacer"... the shockwaves from that punch CRACKED the moon... now imagine IF that moon itself was his target... that moon would be long gone) And, besides, this "argument" ("Saiyajins/DBZ people can blow up planets") is totally lame... from the "good guys" in DBZ, only Goku knows teleportation(and his teleportation is also kinda lame... needs chi to guide him to other places), in order of trying to scape IF he decides to blow up the planet in a stupid (and completely useless, btw) effort of taking Superman down... and ALL the Z warriors DIES on planet explosions, the ENTIRE manga and anime shows that... Superman, on the other hand, already survived SEVERAL planet destructions/explosions, so, you do the math... Goku would kill BILLIONS of people, would commite SUICIDE, and... Superman would still be there, hurt, but, alive, and, as sad as sadness itself, flying away to find another planet to live, with creatures similar as us humans.
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oi jonas,
Tudo bom? sim, voçê já me tinha enviado alguns scans em que vemos o super a dar um soco na lua, como disse...e outra em que ele sobrevive à destruição de um planeta...eram coisas que não tinha visto na altura deste comentário(..que já foi feito à algum tempo atras...)hoje em dia não penso que seria tão fácil assim...mas continuo a achar que seria renhido
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Tudo em riba. Sim, uma luta renhida (onde ambos fariam seu máximo, e a vitória/derrota seria por bem pouco) seria um resultado ótimo, neste caso. Mas o problema é fazer um fã de DBZ compreender isto... 99,9% deles não lêem histórias do Superman (na verdade, na maior parte das vezes, parece-me que eles, do mundo, só conhecem DBZ... e até isto conseguem fazer mal), e, só o conhecem do desenho animado da WB, onde ele é bem menos poderoso que a sua contraparte dos quadrinhos. Aproveito a sua atenção para perguntar algumas coisas: Que versões do Superman você colocaria contra "X" Guerreiros Z, em um crossover, por considerar que tais seres de ambos os universos, seriam similares, em níveis de poder?
Superman Pré-Crise
Superman Prime (Superboy Prime de uniforme negro, com boost de poder, após ter absorvido a energia Oana de um Guardião do Universo)
Superboy Prime
Superman One Million (dourado, mora no sol há milênios, no século 800)
Sundipped Superman (o atual, com boost de energia solar, após incursão ao centro de um sol amarelo)
Superman Kal-L
Kingdom Come Superman
Superman atual
Vegeto/Gogeta SS1 (SS2 ou mesmo SS3, caso julgue necessário)
Merged Buu (após ter absorvido Gotenks SS3 e Piccolo)
Chou Gohan (Mystic Gohan)
Gotenks SS3
Kid Buu
Goku SS3
Goku SS2
Gohan SS2 (criança, quando enfrentou Perfect Cell)
Alguma outra sugestão de personagens?
Muito obrigado pela atenção!
Obs: Estou só aguardando a sua história se completar, para me "desgarrar" de vez do assunto crossovers... cansei de ouvir asneiras de fãs abitolados de DBZ, em escala global... é por demais desgastante (não estou me referindo a você, não se preocupe).
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uff...complicado...mas vou tentar, assim à primeira vista diria:
Superman Pré-Crise: Este é praticamente invencivel... Gogeta ss3??
Superman Prime: mm..diria à paritida Gogeta também..digamos ss2
Superboy Prime: não está muito longe do superman prime parece-me..talvez mantivesse o Gogeta/vegeto ss1
Superman One Million: não conheço bem a força deste superman...mas deve estar ao nivel do super pré-crise não?...
Sundipped Superman:à partida e seguindo a hierarquia que aqui tens talvez Merged Buu...mas não me parece renhido...acho que imagino melhor contra Gogeta mais uma vez..
Superman Kal-L : talvez Chou Gohan (Mystic Gohan)...
Kingdom Come Superman: parece-me que estará praticamente ao nivel do super normal.... para não repetir Gotenks SS3
Superman actual: goku ssj3
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Ah, sim, já ia me esquecendo: Quanto aos níveis dos Supers, eis a minha opinião: Acredito que o Superman Pré-Crise está basicamente no mesmo nível físico (força, velocidade, resistência, etc...) do Superman "Superboy Prime Bombado" (o Super adulto é pouca coisa superior, fisicamente falando... deve ser pouquíssima coisa mais forte, e um pouco mais veloz, porém, é um pouco menos resistente, como explicarei abaixo), só que, mentalmente, o Super adulto é absurdamente mais capacitado, e é muito mais inteligente e experiente (e, é mentalmente equilibrado, coisa que o Prime não é
O Superman One Million, ao que me pareceu, seria um meio termo entre o Sundipped Superman e o Superboy Prime (o não bombado), mas, do pouco que foi mostrado, ele deve ser NO MÁXIMO metade do que o Prime é... provavelmente é menos que a metade... ele empacotaria, em uma luta direta contra o Prime, se ambos dessem o melhor de sí.
Sundipped Superman, segundo alguns roteiristas, é de 5 a 10 vezes mais poderoso que o Super atual “normal”.
Kal-L, após a reclusão naquela dimensão insossa (após Crise), e principalmente após a morte da sua esposa, declinou muito, e a velhice parece tê-lo afetado bastante... embora ele fosse um Kriptoniano Pré-Crise (na casa dos setenta e poucos anos), quase não se comportou como um na saga do Superboy Prime.... mesmo assim, vimos que ele é sim superior ao Super atual, como pudemos observar quando ele facilmente detonou o Doomsday, segurando um golpe dele com pouquíssimo esforço, e arrancando o maxilar do mesmo com um só golpe... creio que ele deva ser algo entre o Superman do Kingdom Come e o Sundipped Superman... o do Kingdom Come é o Super atual com um boost bem pequeno de poder.... pequeno, mas que ao menos é contínuo, ele alcançou aquele nível e assim se mantém (desde que receba energia solar amarela de vez em quando), e está realmente um pouco acima do Super atual normal, demonstrou ser um pouco mais rá
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E cá apareceram estes malditos emoticons... não coloquei nenhum deles. Ah, aproveito o espaço para perguntar... você vai publicar as próximas paginas de uma só vez, ou aos poucos? A 2 já estará saindo em breve?
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Obrigado. Vou agora aguardar sua história Goku vs Supes sair integralmente, para me desligar de vez dos crossovers... eu não logava aqui no Deviantart há mais de 1 ano e pouco... só voltei recentemente, pois um amigo me avisou da sua história. Obrigado novamente, e paz para todos!
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Superman already survived the explosion of a planet (Pluto), before, without even a scratch. He already said that he could crush the entire Earth with his bare hands, at super speed, if he wanted so. Once, he punched a death entity which was flying at mid air, in one of the moons of Saturn... the result was, that the moon was all cracked up, with craters so huge that could even be seen from space (and he did not even punched the moon itself, only the shockwaves from the punch he gave on the death entity - in this case, the entity called "Black Racer", who was taking the soul of one of his most closest friends, "Steel" - did that to the poor moon... if he have punched the moon itself, it was going to reduce her to pieces). Both are pretty fast. I can see Superman having a faster flight than Goku, since he can go faster than light on space, and on Earth, he tops the speed of light, to avoid destructions on the Ozone layer and Earth environment atmosphere(as he already said). Goku and Gotenks, at SS3 forms, by flying, must be able to at least reach speeds close to the speed of light, since Gotenks SS1, testing his full flight speed, did 1/6 of the speed of the light (51.460km/s), since he gave 9 rounds around the Earth in almost 7 seconds (the speed of light can do 7,5 rounds per second, around the Earth)... and for doing that, it took a fusioned DBZ being, way more powerful than a normal one, to do such a thing... and unfortunately, they NEVER did such things again(BUT, since was showned at least once, we know, that under specific circumstances, they are able to do)... and fusioned beings can't stay fusioned for too long, but only for short periods of time, and if they go SS3(only Goku and Gotenks can, and for short periods of time, although "Mystic Gohan" power levels are pretty close to a SS3, thanks to Dai Kaioshin, and not to Gohan's own effort), they can stay fusioned even for shorter times, 10-15 minutes, tops). Saiyajins can be burnt by molting lava(1100ºC), and Superman's Heat Vision is WAY hotter than that... Saiyajins also have trouble with too low temperatures, and Superman has the freezing breath... Goku can indeed teleport (the only Saiyajin, cause he never teached his friends the teleport method he have learned), but Superman has super senses, and since he have faced teleporters before, and have used his supes senses to anticipate his foes materializing around him, i think he can adjusts himself to Goku's teleports (he will get some punches and kicks before that, but, he will learn how to react, since he adapts pretty fast, to dangerous situations), Goku is a much better fighter than Superman, no doubts about it... but i still think that Superman is indeed a little bit faster, for body movements/reactions, even than the powerful SS3(and, since he's a little bit faster, imho, even than the SS3, even if Goku is a greater fighter, Super can manage to "soften" things, avoiding being hit all the time, and also, hitting Goku hard, when have the opportunity, cause since he's faster, he can see an "opening" in Goku's defense, eventually)... about Strength, no doubts about it, Superman already moved the moon, and Goku had to go SS1 to move 40 tons freely...(in his "normal" black hair self, he could not even move), but the fact is, Saiyajins can generate more "hardness/impact" to their blows, since their great speed, and her impact expansive and repulsive auras of power(when they are on "full battle mode", with CHI manipulation overflowing)... this makes people have the impression that they are much stronger than what they really are, since this facts "complement/increase" their aforementioned super human strength... so, for "breaking" stuff, and hitting things pretty hard, their "strength" is enough to even make Superman bleed (and vice versa, imho), but for lifting, moving, and pushing, or even throwing heavy stuffs, Super is way stronger, no doubts. Saiyajins also can't survive on space...(freezing temperatures, and lack of air... and they can't hold their breaths for too long, 3-4 minutes, tops, like the whole anime and manga showed... some people think that Bardock, Goku's father, was fighting Freeza's soldiers on space... that's nonsense, cause he was talking, and bleeding freely, something impossible on space, his blood would freeze, and he could not TALK on the vacuum of space... Freeza'a spaceship was pretty high, but still on Planet's Vegeta atmosphere... it's really a nonsense to say that Bardock was surviving on space, since he was fighting dozens of Freeza's soldiers, and ALL OF THEY where talking and breathing... then, i ask you people: ALL those Freeza soldiers where IMUNE to the vaccum of space?! Of course not! Freeza could, as a characteristic specific physiology of his race, be able to survive on the vacuum of space... Toriyama would not spoil this great Freeza's capability, by making hundreds of "John Does" -AKA: His low life soldiers - being able to do the same thing). So, if Goku's vacillates, one Superman super blow, can trow him to space, to the deep depths of ocean (his low breath is a problem, not to mention that Superman can freeze the water, with his freezing breath, and hold him there enough time, doing more and more freezing and heating attacks, so Goku collapses... Superman is way faster inside water than Goku) or to the depths of Earth(molting LAVA), or freeze him and then flares a huge Heat Vision bolt, and making a huge temperature inversion/reversion, and make Goku's body explode... Brolly(the true legendary Super Saiyajin, from the filler movies chronology) was instantly disintegrated, when was launched/pushed/drag to the surface of the sun(6000ºC) by a KHH(made from Gohan and Goten together... and maybe a little help from Goku's spirit, too), and Superman Heat Vision is way hotter than that... of course, if Superman also vacillates, Goku can deliver a great combo of blows, and connect a planet busting level Kame Hame Ha(he will have to be careful, and point the blast to space, or the Earth goes... boom, so, it will be difficult, Supes is not a "stand still" target, when motivated), and put to test, the invulnerability of the Superman... it's a pretty even fight, IMHO, those two guys fighting, plenty of possibilities. Some can say, "hey, Saiyajins can withstand 500 or more G' force's of impact/pressure", but sorry, Superman can withstand the heat and the pressure of a SUN CORE(340 BILLIONS of Terrestrial G's, and 15.000.000ºC). It's a tough call, both are too damn powerful, the one who vacillates in such a forceful fight, loose. Sorry the long post.
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dude; you are amazing!! that was the most unbiased analysis of this fight ive ever read anywhere!! finally, someone credits both sides!
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Thanks a bunch. But, it's hard to explain that to DBZ biased fanatic fans... most of them think that "normal Goku black haired" with Kaioh Ken "X" times can defeat even Pré-Crisis Superman...
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idk about that; id just like an awesome fight. i think that if the fight came down to the current goku(not including GT or the movies) and the current superman on a barren planet with no life on it...that fight would be epic. not one sided in either way; they are both strong as hell, they both have fighting experience, and they have abilities capable of destroying planets. thats all it comes down to. stupid technicalities like "theyre too nice" or "kryptonite will end the fight quickly"
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I think so, too.
*But, about the "normal goku black haired winning over pré-crisis Superman", unfortunately, i've already seen DBZ biased fanboys saying this nonsense (and lots of other worse things too, sigh)
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wow; thats them probably hating on superman because they dont know what he can do. lol
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ok ok ok put it this way,,,what if goku strapped some kryptonite on his body???super mans through then
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Ahah... and how about a kamehameha made of k? Would be way better, right?
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And, if things get TOO HARD for Superman, if he's facing a Goku SS3, he can fly away to space (Goku simply won't be able to go after him, on space), and go deep inside the Sun, and become "Sundipped" Superman, with solar energy boost, WAY more powerful that his "normal" self. And, if someone mention "Genki-dama", well, besides being TOO SLOW to make, it does not affect good beings... and Superman is for sure a great good guy.
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Dude saiyans can breath in space if they're super or higher.
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well the thing is goku could make a barrier and survive in outerspacefor a while..but eventually he would need more oxygen and couldn't fight well with the barriar.
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and he can teleport anywhere in the universe he wants.
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No, even that Goku can't do... the master of force fields bubbles is Brolly, and he's belongs to the movie chronology (fillers). Goku and cia, on the manga an anime, pratically NEVER did something remotely similar like Brolly did... they only did little force fields, momentarily ones.
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cant goku brethe in spacecant all sayain brethe in space.
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I can't really say either way as to whom would win. I don't know the absolute power of Superman, as the Man of Steel himself even admitted that he doesn't use his full strength for fear of killing others.
Plus, personally, I get tired of always seeing Super Saiya-jin used as a means of battle. Goku's shown that he never goes into battle using this much power at the start. Even against Cell, he didn't power up until a little later on in their bout (though, he did LOOK the part of a Super Saiya-jin).
Even if they can destroy planets, don't forget his mentality. Goku's not the kind of person to harm a planet just for the sake of winning a bout. Goku's too kind and thoughtful to do that, as is Superman. I'm confident that Superman can do the very same thing, but doesn't want to destroy an entire environment just for a victory.
A lot has to be considered in a battle with these two. Simply saying "Super Saiya-jin" only shows one of MANY aspects to this altercation.
Nevertheless, you are quite welcome.
^_^
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hehe, sure, if it was real (if you can say that
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they need an empty lifeless planet or a
huge asteroid field to just beat each other senseless.
superman would probably begin to lose at first because
of ss3 but it doesn't last that long
they'd both be too weak to go on
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