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Description Kingdom Hearts? Intentionally tried to make it look like a screen shot from a cut scene xD

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KH - Shading Sunset V2 Edit:

After receiving a growing number of complaints on the blurryness of the picture, I did a new render without the blur. I hope you like it! The old image with the blur can be viewed here: [link]
In addition to that, I've also tweaked the colors alot, so now its rather a pink gradient of the sun instead of a "in-ur-face orange"
There is still a lot more which needs to be fixed (see list below), and I will take them into account till my next render of Sora Thank you for the comments and favs so far! ^^ KH rules!

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Quest

I've decided to continue on my conquest to finish my Sora model, _AND_ find the secret and technique behind Square Enix's shading method.

I want to try to get as close as possible to archive the same look, through a lot of study of references and testing. It might take a while, but I'm determined to reach that level ^^

Any comments, tips and critics are welcome! Please tell me ANYTHING that can be improved, I need the feedback if I'm going to progress and learn!

-mog

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These are the comments I've received and is going to update in my next Sora render, so thanks a lot for the feedback!!

- More natural hair in the neck area
- More lively eyes - by ~Aurrora
- Less female alike face
- Another background which is more KH'ish.
- Lips less "sticky out" - by *heartless-nobody
- More SSS shading - by *soulshine
- Highlights in the hair - by myself
- Less glossy skin - by myself

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Info
Software: 3Dsmax 2008, After Effects CS3
Render: Mental Ray 3.5, Fast Skin SSS, FG
Polygons: ?
Render time: 10 minutes @ 800 x 600px
Experience gained: 400
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Btw. Its ~silverbeam fault that I did this image o.O He asked me if he could see a wireframe flow of the model, which lead to me picking up the project again and work out this render xD

Sora - Kingdom Hearts ©2002 Square-Enix
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Comments: 209

Dieggo-The-Hedgehog In reply to ??? [2008-07-09 22:56:27 +0000 UTC]

Just a word:

GREAT!

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darkspecter104 [2008-07-09 22:24:51 +0000 UTC]

I liked the colour of the eyes in the older picture. The ones in this picture seem a little greyer than blue.

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mogcaiz In reply to darkspecter104 [2008-07-10 21:36:33 +0000 UTC]

That is true
But I honestly prefer this kind of tone colors, less saturated and increased contrast, so it appears more dreamy alike rather than saturated cartoony alike. But dont worry, Im aware his eye colors are more deep blue

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BlueFireThade In reply to ??? [2008-07-09 22:01:17 +0000 UTC]

Oh, geez, people can be vicious! I didn't even notice the blur and it was great. This version is nice too, but I liked the other more vibrant one You don't need to change it, I just wish people wouldn't be so type specific Both are very nice though

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mogcaiz In reply to BlueFireThade [2008-07-15 21:42:47 +0000 UTC]

Yeah.. sometimes ppl can be very hard to please. But man.. I kinda asked for it as well
The way to perfection (which is a myth though) can be a rough one Buuut I try m best to listen carefully instead of cursing why they dont like how it already is xD

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BlueFireThade In reply to mogcaiz [2008-07-16 00:06:20 +0000 UTC]

Hmmm, I admire your valiant ways. Atleast you have the strive for perfection attitude, which is very helpful. Ya kind of wish, however, that people would sometimes be less harsh over little things! Anyway, I have a good feeling that you will get that perfection you stride for

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mogcaiz In reply to BlueFireThade [2008-07-19 02:04:00 +0000 UTC]

xD Helpful yes.. but also hard to work under, as Im rarely satisfied when I work -.-
Thanks for you support anyhow

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Missae-no-Sekai In reply to ??? [2008-07-09 21:50:14 +0000 UTC]

SORAAAAAAAAA!!!!!! *¬* Beautifull!!!!!!!!

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KurooKirii In reply to ??? [2008-07-09 12:06:39 +0000 UTC]

looks just like the game ur amazing

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Dias-Jean In reply to ??? [2008-07-08 02:54:51 +0000 UTC]

First of all I want to say that wow... oh my freaking god this is an amazingly gorgeous render. I am literally drooling at my desk.

Now since you asked for ways to improve it my only suggestion is on the chain on his neck. If memory serves me it is metal correct? Currently it looks a little plastic. Perhaps some metallic reflections and shading would help it out.

Other then that you have an amazing portfolio piece here that could easily get your foot in the door at many places I would think. Great work and keep it up. Your modeling really is inspiring.

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mogcaiz In reply to Dias-Jean [2008-07-09 19:59:44 +0000 UTC]

Thanks Its true that his chain is... not metal ^^ I really didnt look into the materials and shading except from his face and hair, and I thought no one would notice the detail on the chain But dont worry, I will have it covered in my next render, along with a lot of other things!

I hope to improve myself more and learn as I progress. Right now I already have a foot in the industry, working as a CG 3D artist. Im quite new, but its a great opportunity to learn from the pros.
Do you work with 3D as well?

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Dias-Jean In reply to mogcaiz [2008-07-10 05:08:17 +0000 UTC]

A little but only what I have learned in college. I don't actually work in the field though. I also am dabbling in C# programming through XNA . I have a few renders in my gallery but nothing that matches the amazing work you have created. I would say that your light years ahead of me.

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mogcaiz In reply to Dias-Jean [2008-07-11 14:56:58 +0000 UTC]

Ah I see. I took a look at your gallery. Rendering wsie, I think you could outbeat me if you look into doing it ^^
So its good so far.

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Dias-Jean In reply to mogcaiz [2008-07-12 05:13:21 +0000 UTC]

Wow, that is an amazing compliment coming from yourself Keep up the amazing work yourself

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mogcaiz In reply to Dias-Jean [2008-07-13 18:45:11 +0000 UTC]

I will try!

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player49 In reply to ??? [2008-07-07 20:19:29 +0000 UTC]

DUDE!!! That almost looks like the game itself!!!! GREAT JOB!

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mogcaiz In reply to player49 [2008-07-09 20:02:31 +0000 UTC]

Heh, think so?
I hope Im getting close ^^

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player49 In reply to mogcaiz [2008-07-09 20:27:54 +0000 UTC]

It is! Try making a movie like that! Or a comic!

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mogcaiz In reply to player49 [2008-07-09 21:49:37 +0000 UTC]

Of course Thats my goal. But not until I know I can reach that level ^^

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player49 In reply to mogcaiz [2008-07-10 20:23:46 +0000 UTC]

Oh okay then! I'll be rooting! XDD

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OupazasMedia In reply to ??? [2008-07-07 06:05:31 +0000 UTC]

this brings it out more now than I realize, but I found a major difference between you and Wen-JR. I find that your faces are SO much better than his. I can't quite place why, but it's the only thing I don't like about the way he does things. none of his faces seem accurate, but this face seems like the same face used in the games, minus a few things that I'm sure you'll fix soon.

By the way, you are my role model.

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mogcaiz In reply to OupazasMedia [2008-07-15 21:48:40 +0000 UTC]

Hah! You got to be kidding! Comparing me with Wen-JR? I cannot do a single thing that he can better. Trust me!
Not only is his skill admirable in my eyes, but his dedication and discipline to make so much great frequently is also worship worthy xD
What is different between him and me is just the opportunity of style I think. He knows a lot more than me, and thus can have a style with a more realistic approach and details. Since I dont know so much, I can only do whats easier to make, which is.. hmm a more cartoony look.

Anyways Im glad to hear that someone believes in me thou! Thanks!

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The-Requiem In reply to ??? [2008-07-06 10:12:56 +0000 UTC]

i think if you really want to nail it you need to take a look at the cg screenshots themselves very closely

i'd work on the hair a bit... they use thinner and more frequent chunks and i think there must be some level of transparency in them (judging by the screenshots)

one other thing i think there should be smaller irises and...more pupil?

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mogcaiz In reply to The-Requiem [2008-07-06 13:04:47 +0000 UTC]

Oh belive me, Ive went through a lot of research and studied the filmsequences. I wouldnt dare to think of how it would turn out if I did not. After all, that is what Im trying to copy

I need to work out on the hair indeed, Right now, it seems like it doesnt give out any highlights as well. The transparent look, is rather light scattering beneath the surface of the hair chunks. I need to play around with that some more to make it look its thinner. Thats all
His eyes is exactly copied from this image: [link] I dont think I can get it any closer than this.

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The-Requiem In reply to mogcaiz [2008-07-07 07:44:55 +0000 UTC]

you know what? i think they use multiple renders of sora for different images...

i was looking at the inside booklet cover and i dont think its the same model..though i guess it would make sense as the screenshot you have is an extreme closeup (probably better anyway)...

i was looking at this one and his face seems somewhat different

anyway, you are doing a good job... i also think, with the hair, just keep going at it and comparing with different angles/environments

you were right about the eyes though

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mogcaiz In reply to The-Requiem [2008-07-11 15:03:28 +0000 UTC]

Multiple renders? You mean as in passes and layers?
Mostly yes I render in multiple passes as well, it gives me more flexibility and less restrictions when working with the renders in post afterwards you know
I on this Sora render... I think I worked with 3-4 render images and composited it to what you see now.

Im going to try to work his face a bit closer to how he is in this image. Though I feel that my model looks like sora, but it doesnt look like the same one in the image..

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AngelEggie In reply to ??? [2008-07-06 01:44:55 +0000 UTC]

Beautiful! I was stunned for a moment! XD;; But really, you did a spectacular job. Also! Very commendable for you to want to improve!

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mogcaiz In reply to AngelEggie [2008-07-06 13:12:55 +0000 UTC]

Eggie!
Yes thank you! Im glad you liked it! x3
Im always looking to improve! ^^ Its addicting

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projectchaos17 In reply to ??? [2008-07-05 23:44:19 +0000 UTC]

looks cool, but he looks kinda ... emotionless, other than that, I'd say it looks awesome

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mogcaiz In reply to projectchaos17 [2008-07-06 00:42:03 +0000 UTC]

No emotions? Nothing at all? Hmm... to me it looks like he is content, determined, eying out the horizon or planing on the path ahead of him or something.
Anyways, once I have his face rigged, I will make sure to make a lot more emotions, any at all! xD

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projectchaos17 In reply to mogcaiz [2008-07-06 21:14:04 +0000 UTC]

alrighty, great job thus far though

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Nokadota In reply to ??? [2008-07-05 23:25:54 +0000 UTC]

hehe, i like how you put "Experience Gained" at the end. mind if i borrow? anyhoo, that's some great 3D work! definitely looked like a screenshot.

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mogcaiz In reply to Nokadota [2008-07-06 13:15:33 +0000 UTC]

Im glad you like my work!
Feel free to use the point system as well It doesnt do much other than making me the FF junkie I am.

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Nokadota In reply to mogcaiz [2008-07-06 21:29:21 +0000 UTC]

hah, me too [just a lil].

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Phoenix-of-a-Down [2008-07-05 21:34:50 +0000 UTC]

Wowies! I thought it was a screen shot from the game at first. o_o

Ooh... You GOT to try n' have a fight scene with Sora and Shibuya... xD That'll be AWESOME.

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mogcaiz In reply to Phoenix-of-a-Down [2008-07-05 22:04:56 +0000 UTC]

xD Thats... actually not a way off idea hehe ^^
I need to finish up Sora first before I do so!

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Phoenix-of-a-Down In reply to mogcaiz [2008-07-07 00:29:48 +0000 UTC]

Ooh, I can't wait!

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RogueClawdite In reply to ??? [2008-07-05 19:55:39 +0000 UTC]

Wow @_@ This is amazing so far. You've come such a long way from when you first designed Sora, and I can't help but be envious <3

Keep it up!

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mogcaiz In reply to RogueClawdite [2008-07-05 22:08:11 +0000 UTC]

xD Yes thanks! The major difference and what I have learned since the first Sora render I did is the light setup, shading, and post effect to spice up the picture! Its such a difference of quality once you can do a bit of that. ^^ Thank you for your support

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RogueClawdite In reply to mogcaiz [2008-07-05 23:02:01 +0000 UTC]

Oh no problem <3 I always love your work

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IIIXandaP In reply to ??? [2008-07-05 18:00:30 +0000 UTC]

Nice !!!!

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Ash-88 [2008-07-05 17:03:35 +0000 UTC]

cant believe you made this with 3dsmax. i cant get a grip of that software at all, its way too hard lol. amazing job dude. take care

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mogcaiz In reply to Ash-88 [2008-07-05 22:12:55 +0000 UTC]

Its a powerful tool which is industry standard ^^ Its no way possible to get a total grip of all its features and understand a such huge and complex software You too take care.

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fistania In reply to ??? [2008-07-05 16:19:24 +0000 UTC]

whoaaa.... nice! xD

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SoraBoyd In reply to ??? [2008-07-05 16:16:38 +0000 UTC]

It seems a little blurry. And maybe less detail on the lips? Sora's don't really..."pop" out as much as that.
but other wise good job!

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mogcaiz In reply to SoraBoyd [2008-07-05 22:13:48 +0000 UTC]

The blurry is intentional
But Ive noticed the lips, so Im going to fix that part untill my next rendering ^^ Thanks!

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alichinorinoa In reply to ??? [2008-07-05 13:35:11 +0000 UTC]

hmmm you could try to make it a bit lighter? like the movie parts in the game right? dunnow whow to put it exactly but it was a bit light right? o.o;

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mogcaiz In reply to alichinorinoa [2008-07-05 14:16:03 +0000 UTC]

true ^^ Ive changed the colors a bit now, and also made the scenery a bit more lighter

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TheInernetSurfer [2008-07-05 11:04:40 +0000 UTC]

Great pic of Sora!

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soul-searcher243 In reply to ??? [2008-07-05 10:51:00 +0000 UTC]

whoah!!! i cant even describe the awesome-ness with enough descriptive-power!!

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