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Published: 2018-01-11 03:59:16 +0000 UTC; Views: 3868; Favourites: 35; Downloads: 0
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Many American conservatives possess a false image of left wing movements being somehow being allied to Islamic terrorists which could be nothing farther from the truth. In fact it was America, the very heart of capitalism itself, which founded and funded Islamic terrorists, while communist and socialist forces spent all their resources attempting to defeat such terrorists.The very roots of Islamic terrorism, started in 1954 with the Muslim Brotherhood. An explicitly Islamic theocratic party, they were secretly funded by the CIA in an effort to overthrow President Nasser, a widely revered leader who was aligning Egypt towards a more socialist and pro-USSR course.
However the explosion of Islamic terrorism which we all know of today didn't start until the 1980s, when the US openly began to support Islamic terrorist organizations called the mujahideen. These Islamic fundamentalists were funded by the US as "freedom fighters" against the Democratic Republic of Afghanistan, a socialist country backed by the USSR. While the USSR tried to defeat these terrorists the USA only kept funneling them more funds and arms. In the end, when the USSR decided to pull out of Afghanistan all that remained was a theocratic wasteland that would soon go on to form the Taliban as well as Al-Qaeda, starting a reign of terror across the world.
In conclusion, it is an undeniable that America is the number one country to blame for the plague of radical Islamic terrorism that has killed countless of innocent lives across the globe. It is also undeniable that the USSR helped greatly in the fight against terror and if the USSR won the cold war the world would probably be a much safer place.
Sources:
Muslim Brotherhood - www.historycommons.org/context…
www.motherjones.com/politics/2…
Afghanistan - www.nbcnews.com/id/3340101/t/b…
www.britannica.com/biography/O…
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Even know I don't like Communism, Soviets failed to defeat the Mujahideen in the Soviet Afghan War because the aid and military training from USA and UK, including some Eastern Countries like Iran, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and China. the Mujahideen were also supported by USA, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and China during the Afghan Civil War (1989–1992). I mostly don't support both American Conservatives and American Liberals. We need American Centrists that know more than most American Conservatives and American Liberals to rule the USA to completely stop the funding of Islamic Extremism for good and USA needs to start to balance out the budget before the debt gets anymore higher!
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"Soviets failed to defeat the Mujahideen in the Soviet Afghan War"
Those kill ratios, tho.
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Yea, and the USSR was allied with Nazi Germany right up until Hitler stabbed Stalin in the back with Operation Barbarossa. AND while the USA supported West Germany after the war the USSR enslaved the whole of Eastern Europe behind a figurative iron curtain that restricted freedom of speech, press, outlawed religious worship, and turned the people into drones working for Stalin. Also in 1933 the USSR deliberately staved the Ukraine and killed millions -- killing more people before WWII even started than the Nazis would kill in the show of their existence! And say what you want about the 'terrorists' Osama Binladen was fighting to keep Afghanistan independent and free from Soviet domination which would have ruined their culture -- it should have been off limits to everyone -- let the Muslims control their lands the way they want, who cares if they are backwards cavemen -- there are nations in Africa where people live in huts and starve every day that the world leaves alone, why couldn't they leave the Muslims in Afghanistan alone?
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Because they were under the Taliban.
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Replace the USSR with modern day Russia. But I do agree with you that America funded Islamic terrorists. But America wasn't always like that.
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You also ignore that the USSR funded communist terrorists around the world, including the Viet Cong.
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Better have Communist terrorists than the Muslim ones because they don't harm anybody around the world except in their own country.
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Or themselves.
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And yet the US is now fighting against them and helped Iraq smash them.
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Before he supported them...
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actually it goes much further back int he past than that. The very concept of the modern Jihad started way back in the days of the European colonial empires. And indeed much of the instability and religious radicalism in the modern arabic world comes from the anti imperialist revolts of the 19th century, though the collapse of the ottoman empire didn't help matters.
Now this does not excuse America's own imperialist behavior, or the USSR's for that matter), but the roots of fundamentalist islamic terrorism goes back much further than 1954, and much of the anger that the islamic word directs at Europe comes from resentment caused by 19th and early 20th century imperialism.
Of course the especially stupid move that America made was after funding radical islamic groups to fight the USSR, it then idiotically goes and invades the place 20 years later.
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True, Reagan funded The Mujahideen in the 1980's during the Soviet invasion. And Soviets fought the bastards. Now look at Afghanistan today! It's a mess! And look what's come from it. 9/11 and 7/7 and all this other insanity. It's troubling.
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The USA fought Al Queda and is currently fighting ISIS.
The USSR invaded the Middle East for oil in a bid to keep their failed economy afloat.
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You right wingers are so dumb you don't even know basic geography. www.quora.com/Is-Afghanistan-i…
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www.google.com/search?source=h…
Here's another fact: you're an idiot.
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The first result of your google search is the quora page I just linked to you, wherein you can find out that Afghanistan is definitely not within the Middle East. The only way in which Afghanistan might be classified as the Middle East is if you go by George Bush's definition of the "Greater Middle East", which considering the amount of wisdom Dubya has is not a very commonly accepted classification.
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Uh, what link?
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www.quora.com/Is-Afghanistan-i…
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If USA created ISIS, its really suicide in future. Hord of angry goatfuckers = death to white world.
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Agreed! They've done it upon themselves!
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Because your government is so dumb as hell. Also,Muslims are not goatfuckers,the Islamists are.
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Tbh, I don’t think that the left is involved with Islamic terrorism (that’s crazy mmkay) but I do think at least part of the left is too soft on Islam as a religion, partly because some conservatives can be prejudiced against Muslims (not really an excuse to act as if there’s nothing wrong with the religion and put it above Christianity IMO) and also because of the support for Palestine amongst many left-wingers. Islam has many things wrong with it as an ideology or it should have within an egalitarian perspective. Women, atheists/skeptics and LGBT are oppressed in Islamic countries.
I do agree that outside interventionist war and funding of weapons in countries like Saudi Arabia is making the situation worse, however I don’t think it’s fair to lay all the blame on countries like America. America certainly isn’t doing anyone any favours by sucking up to Saudi Arabia and I’d like to see that stop.
However, the fact is that a lot of the unrest in the middle eastern region is religious in nature, between more moderate and extremist Muslims. That can’t be fixed just by pulling America out of the argument. Part of the problem is the Islamic religion. There are verses in the Q’uran and Hadith that heavily discourage moderacy, encourage infighting, and also acts of violence and terrorism. Mohamed himself was arguably a violent conquerer. So, the sway of religion and anti-secular worldview over there must be challenged too, as well as the stances on human and equal rights otherwise a lot of the issues there will remain.
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Yes, I agree, it was precisely for this reason why the USSR helped various secular movements within the Islamic world, such as Nasser's Arab Socialist Union. However, because the Western powers viewed Islamic fundamentalism as somehow better than secularism, they helped support terrorists against these secular states, thus leading to extremely reactionary Middle East we see today.
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We didn't "fund terrorists". We aided the Afghani people in resisting an illegal invasion by the Soviet Union in support of an illegitimate and unwanted government. The fault lies at your feet, not ours.
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So you really support Islamic fundamentalists, who behead Christians, atheists, and other religious minorities by the thousands? The fact that people still support Saudi Arabia and other such theocracies is a disgrace to all the lives lost in 9/11.
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The Mujahideen who resisted the invasion of the Soviets are not inherently guilty of any of those things. Had the Soviets not usurped the Afghani people's right to autonomy, then the current sorry state of the Islamic world may well never have come about.
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Did you not read any of the links I provide above in the description about the Muslim Brotherhood? The US first funded Islamic fundamentalists in 1954, terrorism as we know it only started because of America.
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The Muslim Brotherhood is irrelevant to the development of the Salafi movement in relation to international terror.
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What a FUCKING GREAT CHOICE WE MADE.
... I mean, Jesus, what were we fucking thinking back then!?
Edit: Is it bad that I have some disagreements with this?
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No because this is a blatant misrepresentation of the facts.
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9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 trillion and only in Cuenca. My cousin told me.
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never forget the 6 gorillion!!!!
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48865489589893589398538589348953589893589 89358938955893 billions
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never forget the 6 gorillion
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This video explains this nicely:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=yI5xlY…
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The final proof that American (government) is the most hypocritical government in the world.
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On the second thought,fuck that,it's a great proof that America should be stopped,be it economically by imposing sanctions or militarily by killing US soldiers.
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The reason why there were terrorists in Afghanistan in the first place was because of the Soviet invasion.
That being said, I'm shocked that this thread is not full of butthurt neo-cons (yet)
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There is one down below. Gulag time.
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