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I'm treading into dangerous territory by saying this, but Superman fanboy logic is dumb too.
Cell says he can destroy the Solar System. "That's hyperbole"
Chappil says his skin is as hard as iron. "HAH! GOKU IS SUPA WEAK CUZ HE NEEDED SSJ TO PIERCE HIS SKIN"
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Yeah DBZ fan must breaking rules and that why death battle was born well it the rule of true power well it true
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What is it about dbz that turns fanboys in childish, competitive and obsessed with power and fighting
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I have no idea honestly
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Darkseid and Beerus are stronger than them though
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Imagine how powerful their fusion would be
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Chronovore from Doctor Who>>>>>>whole DB even Omni-king.
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There are more powerful foes than Superman, Goku nor any DBZ characters.
I hope/bet to see Hulk, Asura (Asura Wrath), Saitama (One Punch Man), Lobo, Luther Strode, Doomsday, Doctor Doom, Ryuko Matoi, Kratos, etc; battle against Goku nor any DBZ characters before DBZ fans would rant that Goku would dunk on these foes
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Bro... most of these are wrong. Hulk isn't even universal. Beating up Beyonder was an outlier...
Chakravartin is only MSS - Galaxy, as he sucked up the milky way, but not in one attack.
Saitama is only a planet buster. One-punch gimmick only applies to him in his universe.
Luther Strode? WTF? He's a building buster at best. Are you trying to imply building level DBZ or...?
Ryuko Matoi is Multi-Continental, and if we wanked her, moon level. Goku would disintegrate her.
Uh... Kratos? Before you say that he's killed Gods, said gods were only country level.
Other than that, true.
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kratos is stronger than superman? what?
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Not superman, the DBZ characters. Superman would wiped Kratos on the floor
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oh I see heheheh sorry
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Exactly. The ButtHurt is much real, especially from TeenGohanFighter (aka;Gohan6425) ForneverWorld, Diamonds4life, AnimationRewind, Trevschan2 and Lexander Flame to name only a few.
yeesh... sta.sh/02dsfucd4g95
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(Facepalm) Seriously..........DB fanboys are,so immature that i can`t explain how bad they debating skills generally are......even The Doctor from DW would defeat DB verse with prep time and Time Lord tech.
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its true, i feel sadly when it comes to it, theres a sense of anime baism, because you'll see alot of times when you pit and anime character against a non anime character, many folks will vote for the anime character. If you think people overblow goku too much, just look up Alucard from hellsing, everytime I talk about a fight between him and batman, people want to scream at me and say batman will shit his pants in the face of alucard and will thus know the true meaning of the word fear, yet batman fought the spectre and won.
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wait batman fought the spectre and won? how? can you show me a link
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I don't have a link or know exactly how he beat the spectre, i just read that he did, but apparantly he used some kind of gadget to weakened spectre, and it seems some forms of technology can weakan spectre. Cause appparantly booster gold beat him also (dont ask me how as I hate booster gold)
but heres a link to some pics from a comic showing them fighting.
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l7world.com/wp-content/uploads…
c1.staticflickr.com/1/154/4024…
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your welcome, so what do you think of this feat of batman's
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Agreed. -_- (Dumb fan boys.
But I like both characters regardless of their Fanboys/Haters.
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you know if wiz and Boomstick did there research right explain that Goku is a universal blaster then the DBZ fans will be over it
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I, too am a huge fan of both Superman and Son Goku, and this was one of the best fights I've ever seen, it was done beautifully. But I'm with you up to the point where you say it makes perfect sense, at the risk of sounding like an obsessed, butthurt fanboy (which, hell, I might even be, and just don't recognize it because I want my hero to be the one to survive) I'm sure Goku should not have died in this the way he did.
The one who is always training harder and trudging forward through any pain or injury to reach a new height of strength at every turn should take the day against the one who's natural abilities are being unlocked further and further. The analysis of the numbers that Wizard and Boomstick gave us at the end are very inaccurate for a number of reasons, for one, measuring Goku's durability by Dr. Gero's bomb that was meant to kill him. Dr. Gero was wrong in nearly every single analysis he made of the Z-warriors, that bomb was never going to be enough to destroy Goku, killed him if it destroyed the Earth, yeah, but not enough to destroy Goku, we know this because all the way back on Namek Goku was harder to destroy than the planet, and then he got years of more training in.
And then their analysis of his speed and strength, Goku was able to move much more than weight in the example they used as his maximum, we never get to see Goku's maximum, then they assumed that snakeway was only as long as it was because it coiled, and then even if those values that they used were Goku's maximum, his abilities increased by far far more than multipliers they were applying, if those were his limits the points they were judging, then they still forgot to calculate how his power kept growing before it raised exponentially in his transformations, and then how it raised more and more as he trained before getting another multiplied boost from a transformation. Goku's power and fighting ability didn't just plateau between the times he was able to reach a new level of super saiyan, in fact the times Goku spent just training and staying in the same form gave him some of the most significant boosts, like the difference from Earth to Namek, his second time fighting in the Hyperbolic time chamber. And I don't think they took into account how many times Goku's body got its saiyan boost of 2x what is was before for every time he was pushed to the brink.
And they totally left out the fact that the Z-warriors' true powers aren't seen in their maximum outputs with their muscle strength or how fast they can go, because their standing strengths are nothing compared to what they can push out in short bursts when they put their whole focus into a movement, like Piccolo said when he fought Dr. Gero. So the numbers they used as Goku's maximum for different aspects of his physical abilities, were really not even close to half of his minimum. Finally, even noting that how they calculated Goku's strength grossly underestimated him, there's still the fact that for Goku, speed and strength and his body are never what decides exactly what he can do, it's his will and spirit that always gives him that extra push he needs to keep going, even after he should have been dead a long time ago. They said it themselves in the beginning, to the Z Warriors, numbers and calculations are practically meaningless.
The next point I'd like to state is something that's actually said in another anime, Kenichi: the mightiest disciple, "In the martial arts world, effort surpasses talent" and this is absolutely true. Even in the event that we consider Superman outmatches Goku in speed and strength by such a margin no amount of form, focus, skill, or technique would make a significant difference, Goku is used to taking so much more pain than Superman, it's not even comparable. It's not nearly as often that Superman finds an opponent that has strength enough to do damage to him, let alone enough to bring him down to a weakened state where he's not able to even move like he did at the start of the fight. Where as Goku frequently takes massive beatings, and continues to get up again and again and again after Superman would have been rendered useless after he took the same amount of damage. Not only does it happen more frequently, but Goku SURROUNDS himself with friends to spar with frequently that are on the level that they can deal massive damage to him. It's his standard of training that he gets worn out, as if he'd just taken a huge beating in a prolonged fight, that's how he judges if he's getting good training in. And he does that EVERY SINGLE DAY! That's even when he's not getting in an extra special chance to raise his power against the even bigger opponents like Uub, Pikon, and Omega Shenron or in conditions that make this kind of training even better for him like on Kai's planet or the hyperbolic time chamber! Not only does that make Goku's strengths increase by a visible margin after every session, but it means Goku's thresh hold for pain is an infinite well compared to Superman's, and that has a huge bearing on how much each one of them would endure in a fight.
I could be just a babbling idiot here, and I just don't realize it, but to me, what I see in Goku and what Goku does to be strong makes him quite able to surpass far beyond anything Supes could have dished out, even if Supes was a God at his peak in 86. To be perfectly fair, I think this match should have been a draw, I wouldn't have considered it a cop out at all, whenever any one asks, 'who would win, Goku or Superman?' the answer is simple as 'they're evenly matched.' Superman simply has no limits, he's indestructible, he can't be beaten when he has all his powers, simple as that, and Goku has infinite potential that he can take anything thrown at him and rise up more powerful than ever, then the question of who wins in a fight is the same as "what happens when an unstoppable force hits an unmoveable object?"
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Well I only know his spirit bomb is capable of doing such a thing
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Waiting for my response? I believe it's the other way around I replied back to you and you didn't say shit
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I sent a response three days ago.
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Alright let start over again, what do you think is Superman maximum strength.
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lifting infinite pages
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The book of the Infinite pages, for a little kid pick up the Infinite pages it be light. If Superman pick the infinite pages it well based on his life. It didn't mean it weighs infinity, that like saying the infinity gauntlet weighs infinity.
Here's the link
www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB1MRa…
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a little kid? yeah a little kid who can turn into an adult
and that link I've read it before I simply will not listen to butthurt jerks like dbz fanboys
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As Mordecaiser123 and Moshe30350 continue the strength debate...
Guys please, if there's ANYTHING that Goku CANNOT lift, it's definitely THIS: www.screwattack.com/post/51229…
Also, just for the heads up, Katchin is described as being "The Hardest material in the Universe" was NEVER translated as being heavy, only indestructible. Katchin in the DBZ Universe is the equivilent of Adamantium in the Marvel Comic Universe, but if Goku has lifted that with ease (if confusing it with weight), then how come he kept struggling with his strength, like lifting an island as SSJ4? If base Goku could lift Nonillion Tons, then how come he couldn't just lift an island with only one hand, rather than two. And grunting/screaming all the while? www.youtube.com/watch?v=oT0w8h…
Some more analysis of The man of Tomorrow can be researched extensively here: www.reddit.com/r/respectthread…
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destiny is equal to mass, and the harder you left the harder you hit
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That cups has more mass then a black hole
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er, which cups?
Is there no Spoon, dude...
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Oh yeah, that. Well, the real point in the whole "Katchin Scenario" was NOT about Goku lifting it, but the simple fact that the Z Sword was broken into itty bitty bits of pieces.
THAT was the whole point of the scene that Toriyama stated in his Manga & the Anime.
I'm really not sure WHY fans would completely turn that idea around in an exaggerated manner. Superman has caught THOR's Hammer in mid swing. Not even Goku can do that, unless is it would destroy his base of character, especially if they wanted him to be "Over-Powered", a feature that Superman has that DBZfanboys complain about.
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The reason Superman caught Thor hammer because he was worthy, Goku can do the same thing.
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