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Just some scrappy fluff. I'm planning on fixing it at some point and maybe practicing my digital inking and coloring skills on it.Anyway, have a little "Let's Pick on Iceland" moment. I'm sure this kind of thing happens a lot. And don't we all love Denmark being clever? Manipulative Smartmark FTW.
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maybe yep. ^^
but the whole thing is cute ! n_n
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Iceland is so proud that his humiliation has provided the world with a little more cuteness.
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Yeah, right.....
But his family = =" just gives a funny part in the NORDIC PILE. :3
i think.... > >"
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I love to torture poor icelnd. But what can you do with a family like that?
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Oh yesh. :3
I love when it's Danmark or Spain who're tortured ! |D
But i agree with y'. His family's impossible. I think i'd have gave up since a long time if i was him. XD
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Naaaah. Our little Iceland is tough. After all, he manages to hold out against Norway in the Onii-chan contests very well (because all things have to give into Norway eventually, as Denmark knows :3). I'm happy to torture those two, particularly as I generally deal with history over fluff, and history has not been kind to Spain or Denmark.
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oh yes..... Γs is amazing. 8D XD
~i suck at history..... i can remember only what is about my own country. and the worst is i do'nt even care about France. = =""
Whatever ! torturing Spain or Denmark is just funny. i love see their idiot grin disappear at least once.... >:U
oh, and History wasn't nice to Spain or Den because they always were sticking their noses everywhere they could.... = ="
am not sure they just stayed at home waitint for something to happen..... so yesh ! torture them ! it's just a revenge from their past. XD ~
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Waaah! It's co cute!! I love it! This is the picture that led me to your gallery, btw!
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Thank you very much, though this is kind of a quirk for me. Most of what I do is dark HISTORICAL MELODRAMA DUNDUNDUN. Yar. I think this is the fluffiest piece that I've ever come up with
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Ohh, poor Iceland. He's lonely with these love-dovey guys as family XD
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He will always have licorice. And his Onii-chan, even if he doesn't like it.
He should be saying "Too much (platonic) love, Denmark!" XD.
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Oh Denmark, don't be afraid of rejection, even if it's certain ;D
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Denmark is NEVER afraid. Rejection builds character!
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He has lot of character then
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Norge will accept his rambuntious love some day. Ganbate Anko!
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Yeah, for the sake of the fandom, don't give up, Den!
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This is a guy who had been on the losing side of every major war he's been in since 1628, and it took him until 1848 to stop trying to wage war. Giving up isn't exactly in his vocabulary.
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Denmark is bad at foresseing war outcomings XD
I remember now a comic were he fights sweden and gets beaten up, but keep attacking, claming he'd be a loser if he just run
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That kind of sums up everything about Denmark's foreign policy XD.
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I guessed as much...
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Made me give more than one sincere, cheerful laugh. You seem to be a witty person as the lines are really hilarious and well-timed - each one of them adds some more amusement to the spreading chaos. And still I like the cosy, peaceful feeling among the silly Nordic pile in the end.
I'd warmly encourage you to redraw this if you have the motivation and time, it would come into it's own better with a bit less smudgy stuff around 
Once again, really humorous and deligthful, I'll be happy to have this in my favourites
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I'll assume that you're comfortable enough with English that I don't need to dare Google Translate to give you an illegible Finnish rendition of my thoughts ^^.
Most of the time I'm a dark writer, but occasionally some fluff pops out that I look at askance, wondering where it came from. Then I doodle it on a scrap sheet, and think that they idea is actually worth something, to the scanner, away!
Yeah, this needs a re-draw. I tried to clean it up in PS, but the fact that I drew it all in ballpoint pen is still haunting me. Some of the poses and faces are so horrifying. I'm looking at you, panel 2 Norway, and panel 1 Denmark.
Thank you very much for spending your time on a comment, and for the fave. XD. I always am thrilled when strong artists critique my work.
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Hahah. I'd probably have more trouble trying to make something of the translation done with Google Translate than understanding your English XD
You definitely should keep giving the fluff a chance if it ends up as something as delightful as this! Oh dear, I'm nowhere near a "strong artist", but I enjoy commenting on works that bring me joy. My pleasure, that is to say
And you're a dark writer, you say? Now this makes the interesting-looking story in your fanfiction folder sound even more alluring... I'll have to give it a look.
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I saw some pretty darn amazing digital paintings when I zoomed through your profile. On color choice alone you come out with very strong art. I love your id, in particular, but the hint of the Russian flag in the sky on 'Liberator' made me squee (and giggle, since a lot of what I write revolves around that time, and actually, Finland had a lot more role, in a guerrilla warfare type way, than you're depicting while the Swedish Army kinda wasn't there. BAD LIFE CHOICES, BERWALD). But Russia took him in and treated him very nicely... Until 1890-ish.
Eeep. I like to write dark and melodramatic. My stuff isn't great by any stretch of the imagination. If you want to take a peek into the nether depths of that folder be prepared to bring your cynicism (and, if you want to help me out, any advice on how to what is believable and what needs work, particularly Russia's character, because arrrgh I did NOT understand him for the first 3 chapters, and I still don't have him down to a point that I like). Otherwise have fun on your own XD.
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H-hey what is this, why am I receiving such unexpected compliments here when I thought I was commenting to discuss your work that made me so happy? *kind of speechless*
Oh, you sure are right about Finland taking part in the war - they were being invaded, how could they not? What I had in mind with the "minor character" statement was more about the fact that the war Finland got involved in wasn't his own (well obviously, he had no wars of his own at that time, he wasn't a country), it was about other countries fighting and him being not much more than just a pawn in the middle of it all. And yet the result drastically changed his history.
Totally referring to countries as "him" here...
And yeah Berwald, being under attack from three different directions at the same time really is a poor excuse to leave Finland alone. A poor, poor excuse u__u
Haha, I'm glad you paid attention to the Russian flag in the sky by the way
Dark, melodramatic cynicism... sounds... delicious.
My view on many of the characters is quite headcanonish and might not be historically "correct", so I can't promise to be able to help you... but we'll see. I'm now going to make some tea and have a read.
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I really don't like it when others are self-deprecating in my presence, and I try to point out why they have no reason to be.
True beans. I did love how your first commentator was Swedish. I saw that I thought "there is going to be some history defense going down." Poor Finnish region. Everyone wants a piece of you.
And much as Sweden was in a bind at the time, there was a bit of naivete in thinking: "Well, the Russians are sending troops down to the border again. Clearly we need to move the army divisions to the Norwegian border. Because Russia is just preparing against France. Obviously."
Anyway, enjoy your tea!
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Surely you're aware of that you are doing that yourself? Self-deprecating. Which, judging from the first two sections that I've now read, is completely groundless. I'll go to the details once I've gotten a bit further with "enjoying my tea".
I did love having to come up with some history defence even though it made me flounder a bit XD
Sweden had a crappy leader for his war, what can you do :s
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What can I say? I like hypocrisy (and answering messages out of order. OTL I'm horribly disorganized u.u). You just enjoy your tea XD.
Yay history! And the thing is that it's so subjective anyway. On lj I've seen Russians and Poles get into fights over what REALLY happened in WWII. Personally I go by what Norman Davies wrote in 'God's Playground' which is the general Polish history textbook, but I wonder how my perspective would be changed if I read whatever the nationally approved historiography of Russia is.
Depose him, ensure that his family can never take the throne again, and get yourself a new king from the French. Obviously. XD
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I will, sir!
As for history, I think no one can know what really has happened. What we mostly hear is history written by the winners, and everyone of course wants to make their past sound acceptable and glorious. Even if you try to write the happenings down impartially, it still is your subjective view on the issue and affected by the stuff that goes on in your head and necessarily not in the battlefield, no matter how much you try.
Little examples of this can be found in Wikipedia when comparing the material in different languages. Not that you should count on the validity there, of course, but I think it still speaks something if I find controversial claims about who attacked who and who started a war just by changing the language...
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I feel so commanding ... XD
Or try to make themselves feel special. I've been reading up on the history of Russian Karelia from the Finnish perspective, and it seems (or do I have it wrong?) that unless you're a political extremist who is out for returning Finnish land into Finnish hands, Russian Karelia is land that was once Finnish, but now is inhabited by some poor schmucks who were transported out of the Ukraine, and you're as okay with the nice farm boys as you are with everything else that is Russian. Made sense to me, right? Part of the Moscow Armistice was the agreement that all the Finns living the contests areas of Karelia could pack up and move into Finland proper, and it sounds as though most of them did just that. Well, I found the English language site for the Russian Federated State of Karelia, and yes, while they consider themselves Russians, they are all Russians with quaint Finnish heritage and the birth place of the Finnish folkways if you read their history and culture sections. Hmmm. Now, Karelia has been an awkward border region since Peter the Great was tromping around, but some people aren't being very clear about whatever realities of the situation exist.
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I feel embarrassed being taught history of my own country by an American... u///u
"Karjala takaisin!" ("Give Karelia back!") belongs to the repertoire some people here start shouting around when they get a bit too drunk. But well, I don't really know much more about Karelian history than what can be quickly found out from Wikipedia. I've got some vague family stories instead as I've actually got some descent from Russian Karelia. My grandmother's parents were Karelians. I've never met them or anything like that, but I've been told they came from the region of Viena in Eastern Karelia. They came to Finland as refugees (illegally escaped over the border in the forest, mother carrying a baby in a backpack made of birch bark, the epic story goes) in around 1920. So yeah, this had nothing to do with the massive relocation after the wars... instead, it was about that, well, they were kulaks. They owned a house and were relatively affluent. And as communism was starting to reign, their situation in Soviet Russia became dangerous. People got killed and stuff. Or so I've been told.
So apparently I'm, er... 1/4 Karelian. Which makes it even more embarrassing to know so little about Karelian history. Fff.
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Technically, since I have dual citizenship, you could say that you're being taught your own country's history by a German. Is that better? ;D Keep in mind, I am willing to twist and pull Finland's history out of alignment for the sake of a good story. Fictionalized history is alive and well in my life (see me cover my butt for all of the generalizations that I am prone to XD), I just happen to think that your history already makes a damn good story.
Never underestimate the well of awesome that is family history. Even if it isn't accurate (some family histories get interestingly embellished through the years. We have a great one in our family about a great aunt who went mad and had to be locked in an attic and then given to an insane asylum where she died from electroshock treatment. Turns out this was a story told by her sister to cover up the fact that the aunt ran off to Nevada with a cattle broker. We do have several people who actually were locked away in my family, but we don't talk about them). Anyway, truth or not, you can get an idea about what life is like at such and such a time, and sometimes stories are just grand, and deserve retelling.
The 'Escape from Karelia' sounds really epic. And it's given me new search terms for my background research. Already I've noticed that I did a stupid thing in this fic by not starting my research into Karelia (East, West, and the Russian Federated State) before now. That's what I get for thinking "oh, it was just war spoils, I'll worry about it when I come to it" and now I have to make sure that I fit in all this information about a fascinating region into two chapters... oi vey. Ah well, that's what revision is for.
And I'd expect that your relatives were in great danger. People who are classified as 'class enemies' in Revolutions tend to be in a lot of trouble when the classes started to rebel. Just going from what I know about the French Revolution, if you were classified as someone who profited from the 3 estate system, you were going down in a bloody manner even before The Terror. Ah France, you know how to pick 'em.
This isn't embarrassing! This is time when all those family histories suddenly become relevant and interesting! I suddenly became hugely interested in the section of my family that had been Prussian academics once I suddenly started seeing the connections to historical things that I was interested in. Before then those were the stories where I concentrated politely on my food until we stopped talking about how Great Grandfather Eugen used to shout the philosophy department at the University of Breslau out of the living room because he disagreed with x interpretation of y. Suddenly this stuff becomes fun when given the right context.
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... *replaces the previous word "American" with "a foreigner from far away"*
Well, I guess Germany is a bit less far away than the States XD Do you speak German? No really, it's not about that you're American. I'm just not used to random foreign people knowing so much about a little country in the corner of Europe. I got stunned when a Swede knew something about our current politics. And you know, Sweden is so far away. So, eh. Seriously, which newspaper should I start reading to feel a bit more equal?
Fictionalized history should be a recognized literary genre. (Is it?) Stories are love. History is stories. Or "gossip well told" as the Historical-Hetalia group of yours puts it.
I think your great aunt just kind of became an idol of mine. (Although I thought that those stories about electroshock treatments were just some silly Hollywood movie stuff.) And the Prussian academics... awesomeness. You are so right, these kind of stories just need the right context to become of great interest.
I'm looking forward to learning more about Karelia in the following chapters! Why bother to study myself when someone else is so eager to do that for me?
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I speak it conversationally with a thick accent (Apparently it's really strange because I learned my German in a section of Berlin that was part of East Berlin, so I have my American accent, a Berlin accent, and it all sounds slightly East German) and horrible grammar. I always feel so ashamed of the German in 'Eight Men' because I know it's bad. But it's better than my Finnish... Which is better than my Swedish, and that is SAD.
I listen to the radio, mostly. Try BBC World Service. I doubt that they broadcast Vermont Public Radio in Finland XD. I suppose that there is podcasting and such that you could get off the internet, but you probably don't want to hear about how the nuclear plant is up for licensing renewal, and about the floods in the southern part of the state. You might get some of our news legitimately when the Women's World Hockey Championships come to the only city in our state in 2012. I'm very excited by that, although one of my friends who is a bartender there keeps groaning about how he saw enough drunk Swedes while he was in Denmark. I doubt many people who aren't US or Canada fans will come, though. Women's hockey isn't as avidly followed as the men's stuff.
I think it is. My mother certainly reads enough of it (though her focus is on things like the history of longitude). And the group is really Crimson Layers'. I just sit around and complain that people aren't citing their sources in their author;s notes XD.
One of my teachers was spacy as heck, and very strange because she had that done to her. It doesn't happen as it does in the movies, but people did used to volunteer for it, or be volunteered by their relatives. Electroshock does horrible things to your brain.
It is so hard to find anything about Karelia! I have two pretty decent libraries at my disposal, and it's hard enough to find Finnish history. Currently I'm going through Russian histories. Karelia features pretty prominently in everything written about the building of St. Petersburg, but I'm a little past that.
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Ah. Unfortunately, I don't know German nearly well enough to tell whether your German in the fic is bad or not (I only studied it for two years in school, and that was quite long ago). I remember some words and can make something out of the construction if I'm lucky, so with help of the context, I'm sometimes able to get the idea of what your characters might be saying without having to look at the translation... but that's quite much that.
I'm not a big fan of the radio, but I might change my mind if I found an interesting channel that my computer would not refuse to cooperate with. Which seems to be quite much to ask at the moment. At least it's always entertaining to listen to news broadcasts in English just for the sake of the language. English is pronounced so... lively that I constantly find it hard to believe I'm actually listening to a serious newscast. Compared to Finnish, the English newscasters sound completely hilarious even when they're being perfectly serious.
Oh, you have the women's championships there next year? We have the men's. And I really can't decide whether I should be saving up money for reserving tickets to all the matches... or for travelling as far away from Helsinki as possible next May. People are going to be out of their minds.
I just happened to read that in China, electroshock has formerly been used as treatment for internet addiction, which made me freak out a bit.
It's understandable that Karelian history is not a first priority in your libraries. Must be even harder for you to find out something about it than it would be for me to understand the stuff you're doing with America and his states XD I must admit I had no idea of what was going on with Vermont and New York bickering in one of the chapters, but it sure sounded like fun. I would definitely buy your Vermont if Alfred really put it up for sale one day like he was planning. Vermont seemed such a cute little thing.
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Funny!
I like Denmark's face in the first panel 
Well, at least Iceland isn't forever alone anymore .
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Ah hah, that's the face that I think needs the most fixing, actually
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Teehee! I think that too, actually. It's just that on pictures with the other nordics paired up, someone usually comments, "Iceland is forever alone" (to which someone else replies, "But he has Mr. Puffin!")
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Personally I support Iceland x Licorice /bricked.
The problem for Iceland is that he's the eternal little brother. And when he tries to strike out on his own he does not very smart things like refusing to pay England and the Netherlands back for money that they gave him... They've gotten better about their responses to that kind of thing since 1800, but still, I'm not surprised that Iceland is buddying up with Russia.
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I don't really support any Iceland pairings. I just can't think of anyone who would be good with him.
And yep, he will always be the little brother. Norway's little brother, to be exact
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Onii-chan seal of approval on that last sentence. Oh Ice, you eternal brother.
I'm not a fan of Iceland pairings, either, but I have a friend who loves Hong Kong x Iceland and I will bow to her fan love since I'm so neutral that I belong in Switzerland.
Most of my pairing loves are historically and cannonically motivated, and since Iceland hasn't been a country that long (more international shenanigans than Greenland, but not that many more, and mostly his shenanigans seem to be fights over fishing rights), and he hasn't shown any interest in anyone in cannon, I just assume he's not ready yet for love.
Not that most of the Hetalian characters are ready (rolls eyes at over 90% of the cast).
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Haha, I'm like that too with a lot my friends. There aren't many pairings I hate, so generally I like whatever my friends like.
That makes sense... way too many fans just use the "But they look soooooo kawaii-desu together and can have such kawaii-desu babies together!" logic. I don't know enough about history (outside Hetalia) to really ship anyone on a historical basis ;_;, but next year I'm taking world history (nothing to do with Hetalia, I swear), so hopefully that will change
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I'll admit that I'm not capable of shipping the 'cest pairings, but there's not much that I will refuse to read/view out of hand. Basically because I've discovered that no matter the fandom there will be someone dedicated and talented enough to make me love the work they did for a pairing that I thought never would/should/could see the light of day. My problem with Hetalia is that with my history background (amateur as it is) there are some pairings which will always make me cringe a little, even though there are people out there who can make them work. Usually, though, the people who make it work have a background in the history as well, and they manage to acknowledge the problematic while proving the beautiful. Still haven't found a Russia/Prussia pairing that didn't scar me, though.
Kawaii-desu... urgh. Aside from the fail Japanese, sometimes fans should look at the personalities involved. Just at some level. Please. If we were pairing Iceland with someone pretty... my random pretty generator pops out Lithuania, and well, that would not work. Mr. Serious would have no chemistry with Mr. Apathetic. Urgggh. How would they build a relationship when one of them is, well, Iceland and the other is Lithuania?
But World History should be fun (especially with an Hetalian background. I think my classes would have been a laugh riot if I had known about Hetalia when I was taking history). My favorite history ships are PruCan and Netherlands x France (NedFra? FraNeth?). You'll get to see all sorts of cool stuff with different eyes in this fandom. Although sometimes the history!fail ideas might make you wish you had closed your eyes rather than perusing dA today. XD
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That is true... but I'll admit that I'm reluctant to read fics with pairings I'm not into. I try to avoid fics about controversial historical topics, in case they're not written well. I don't support Russia/Prussia... I don't know the history, BUT IT JUST DOESN'T WORK (they're both too crazy to be together).
Random pairings are fun for the lulz, but it bugs me if people take them seriously. Like AmericaxBelarus... seriously, they're never shown interacting in canon, and she would probably try to kill him, anyways. But it's funny when people just see it as crack. Iceland/Lithuania... wow, that would be weird. Neither of them is romantically forward enough for it to work. Even if there was a itsy-bitsy, teeny-weeny, miniscule chance that one of them was interested in the other, it would probably be some form of unresolved romantic tension.
I heard that after watching Hetalia, world history is never quite the same XDD. Right now I'm doing Canadian History, so I don't get too many Hetalia mental images. PruCan is historical? I always thought it was only based off that one thing on Prussia's April Fools Day blog, where he wrote that he like maple syrup. (I should really do more research). I don't really know too much about the Netherlands (character or country), so I don't really ship him with anyone. It's always nice to see history literate hetalia fans... they reminds me that not everyone is a fangirl who ships people for the cuteness or whatever (or someone like me who ships people for the lulz
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Historically all of Prussia's interactions with Russia have been nightmare inducing. Either you feel sorry for Prussia (or East Germany), or you can't believe that two nations would get together and do x, y, or z to other countries. It's not good times, and a lot of writers go overboard with it.
Heh. I write about controversial history all the time. I just generally keep my writing to earlier than 1900, so the people who would find my history controversial are far and few between XD (although I run very close into offending some Swedes and Fins, given my focus on Finnish independence).
Now of course, any time I see "that would never work" my desire to prove it wrong kicks in. But I know that my writing doesn't handle romance very well, unless there's an historical guideline, and Iceland has never had much to do with Lithuania ever.
And PruCan's historical basis (I've copypasta'd this from one of my multiple explanations that PruCan actually isn't as crack as people think. The real problem is that no one studies WWI in much depth, and so they don't know the main precedent for PruCan):
I never mind explaining PruCan because it allows me to talk about WWI, which I don't get to do enough of ^^. Now, some fans of the pairing will make a case that Prussia has been attracted to Canada since the Seven Years' War (Also known as the French and Indian War on the North American Continent). I don't buy that, as Prussia was too busy fighting on the continent (4 fronts at once, man was Prussia in luck to have Fritz on his side) to know what his ally England was up to over the pond. Also, because given Canada's age at the time, that's just plain creepy. Finally, Canada was not exactly enthused by the fact of being given to England, and so would have looked like a horrifying brat to an European outsider. Most of early modern Canadian history involves uprisings against the English by the French Canadians. It must have been like having a little Romano armed with a polar bear in England's house.
Actually, the 'town names' thing that comes out of the fanbase for this pairing make me cringe. I have NEVER seen a fanfic dealing with the fact that these towns were named that way because the English oppressors (form a French Canadian view) were trying to impress their new subjects with the might of the Anglo-Prussian Alliance. New Prussia is basically a note from England saying 'You'll never be able to defeat me because I'm stronger and better than you, and I take away your right to use that disgusting Frog tongue, especially when naming places.'
Anyway, for me, I'll fast forward to 1914, and World War One. I maintain the basis of the pairing (and the fact that Prussia has no problems remembering Canada) is all the fighting that Prussia ended up doing with Canada in WWI. I choose nations being in a certain place in battle depending on who the commanders were for WWI, and Prussia faced Canada at the Somme, during the Spring Offensive and the final Hundred Days campaign. What's interesting about Canadian tactics during WWI is that they were basically a generation behind the time in military prowess at the beginning of the war (they tried attacking the Germans with bayonets at 2nd Ypres) and they became one of the leading army divisions by the end. I feel that kind of learning curve impresses Prussia on something along this line: He hears Ludwig come back from 2nd Ypres complaining about the fact that one of Arthur's wards tried to attack him with a bayonet. That was kind of hilariously ridiculous, and Prussia had to laugh. Then he met Canada at the Somme and discovered the kid was smart enough to learn from that mistake. Then Vimy Ridge and Bloody April, the air rivalry between Prussia and Canada started, there was the almighty blow up that was Passchendaele, and finally the Hundred Days Campaign.
Where the Canadians made their real mark in the First War was in the air. The Germans had the famous Red Baron (Prussian), who, together with his hand picked flying team, the Flying Circus (again, mostly Prussians) dominated the skies. The French tried to compete, but were often shot down (the French manufactured more planes than any other country, and depended on their air force much more than anyone else by the end or the war). The English were slightly more successful, but they too did not produce any spectacular fliers on par with the Flying Circus (so named because after the Red Barron painted his plane red, the rest of the squadron painted theirs in rainbow colors, so it looked as though a circus was in the air). Then an unassuming Canadian from the British ranks stepped forward, and became a legendary ace (I think his name was Billy Hopkins, but don't quote me). He painted his aircraft black and formed an all Canadian squadron called Black Flight. To show exactly how different they were from the circus, they painted their planes all black. They became bitter rivals of the Circus, and one of them even shot down and killed the Baron. Prussia has a very interesting way of reacting to a good rivalry, canonically. Again with the admiration/respect curve.
Also, from 1914 to 1917 every Christmas on the Western Front the armies all had a tendency to drop their weapons and declare spontaneous truces. in 1914, it was all the armies. In 1915 the English officers tried to call a halt to the games of football that were being played, and in 1916, the last Christmas truce happened only between the Canadaian and German soldiers. Keeping in mind that 3/4ths of the German Armies were Prussians, Canada must have enjoyed hanging with the Germany bros.
I also find it interesting on a societal note that Prussia, after WWI turned itself culturally around into an absolute democracy and liberal society. Prussia actually ended up pretty decently as Freistaat Prussia. He was stuck with money that was worth more as fire wood, but he was considered one of the most democratic regions in all of Europe, and for Eastern and central Europe, 1920s Prussia became the contemporary cultural capital. Admittedly, the competition was not fierce. Italy was losing people to America like a sieve loses water, the Netherlands and Belgium hadn't had any France-sized cultural ambitions since the 1700s (they were busy focusing on more practical concerns than arts), Austria and Hungary divorced, and Hungary got into fights with the other Balkan states, and everything east of Prussia was old battlefield. But still, Prussia was awesome. That's all anyone needs to know.
Yeah, something /changed/ for Prussia after WWI (really, the question is what stayed the same?). It's something that I found hilarious in a sad way when I connected family and friend stories of pre-war Berlin with Hetalia. Clearly, by the 1920s Prussia had gotten over most of his Teutonic-homophobia because it was an open not-even-secret that if you were gay go to Berlin, you'll be able to get a job. There's a supportive roaring community, and you can even get seriously involved with politics. It's all peachy keen. Unfortunately, the rest of Germany did NOT approve. Then again, if you have a society like that and something like fascism comes charging around the bend, and these things aren't kept in their 'proper' closets... yeah. Not so great. Germany why is your history made of horrible?!
Prussia: Lutz, it's time for cabaret! Wait, what do you mean you don't approve of them? Freistaadt Prussia loves the night life. Deviant moral sexuality? Whazzat? Psht. We got rid of that last century. Anyway, by Teutonic standards we're all going to Hell. No biggie. No? Well, pft. Fine.
Anyway, when splitting up Germany after WWII, the Canadian generals were actually for reinstating Prussia as a province within Germany (Hitler had dissolved it, but the government in Exile tried to get the Allies to reinstate it. However, this did not sit well with Russia's plans for the land, and the Allies owed Russia big time).
So, if you buy the "Prussia became East Germany" theory, when the Iron Curtain Fell there was talk of keeping East Germany and West Germany from ever integrating for fear they would go back to fascism. Canada was for re-integration. America was on the fence, and Britain and France were firmly opposed to it. Canada managed to convince America that East Germany might fall back as a bastion of communism if it did not integrate with the Capitalist West. Reunification talks were held in Ottawa in 1990.
There is some more Cold War stuff with Canadians and East Germany, but I haven't done as much research for it as I should, so I can't really go into detail. But still, enough historical evidence for me, even if I didn't like they way I perceive their personalities interacting.
Ship everything for the history. It makes statements like "the French invaded deeply into Dutch territory" hilarious.
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Don't worry, I actually read it 
Wow! I'm amazed by your in-depth knowledge of history. We learned about WW1 this year in class, but no real mention of Prussia 
Before reading your reply, the only basis I could think of for PruCan (besides the pancakes) was that the "Book of Awesome" was written by a Canadian
I know I said I was annoyed by the fact that a lot of fangirls ship people because they look cute together (as you are), but SuFin is my OTP... because I find their interaction on the show cute BUT IT GOES BEYOND LOOKS, OKAY. Anyways, I have a feeling that historically, based off what you wrote, Sweden/Finland relations are probably nothing like they are in Hetalia.
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Well, it is kinda like that for Sweden. Finland's the weird one. Finns tend to see themselves, and be seen as, mute axe murderers.
A Danish view on Finns: [link]
A Finnish view on Finns: [link]
To quote the salient point of the long blog post above:
"Indeed Finland is a vicious downward spiral, or: maybe Finns donβt talk because talking means communication, and communication always holds the seeds of misunderstanding, offense, and grisly axe-murders. Itβs not a good idea to offend anyone in Finland: just think of all the sharp instruments and the blunt ones, the aggressive drunken people, and the empty places where no-one can hear you scream.
And so Finns avoid social situations, being withdrawn and introverted by nature, and having little opportunity or inclination for honing their communication skills. For them, all is fine as long as one can point at a beer bottle and grunt: the bartender will understand."
But if you look at the countries, Hetalia makes a lot of sense. Sweden always seems to be mooning after Finland. Just look at what the Swedish Representative on the Nordic Council had to say when Finland was accepted onto the Nordic Council:
"It felt as if a chair was empty when Finland was not here [...] Only now has the Nordic circle been completed."
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While Finland is sort of confused by how buddy-buddy Sweden wants to be. But I love them in Hetalia, since the personalities just click. In Sweden, Finland always has an appreciative ear, and in Finland, Sweden always has a cheerful loving friend and so much more.
My knowledge mainly comes from looking up stuff on my own. A great starting point on WWI is the First War site. They have a tone of information, particularly on the history of air flight that makes my pairing love so delicious XD. [link]
Also, look at the propaganda posters. Canada has some really lovely crowning moments of awesome art, and one of the French Posters depicts a German who looks suspiciously like Prussia. Although another depicts the Entente Cordial as an English spider ensnaring France... Some rivalries are too good to give up, I suppose.
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I think Finland in Humon's "Scandanavia and The World" more fits the first description of Finns (I've only read two strips of that, so maybe I'm wrong...)
Yes, that quote... I love at IRL slashable moments, and LOL at them.
I'm glad that you like them in Hetalia (and that there is a historical basis for the pairing). I was talking to someone who was a major fan of SweDen, and dislikes DenNor and SuFin. They seemed like a nice person, but they said they don't like SuFin because (okay, they don't actually talk like this, but I'm gonna use fangirl speak for the lulz) "Finland is a wimpy little derp who loves Sweden, but Sweden would wanna be with someone more manry liek Denmark." I should have told them that (I'm sure you already know this) molotov cocktails were invented in Finland, which Finland used to pwn Russia. So Finland might not look tough, but he isn't a wimp. I didn't tell that person that, though, because I 1) forgot at the time, and 2) wouldn't have wanted to start any arguments.
Instead, I gave that person my (really quite lulzy) interpretation of the DenSuFin love triangle, which was that Sweden imagines Finland all bishonen and sparkly, and Finland is a bit disturbed (luckily, he gets used to it
I NEED TO SEE THAT PRUSSIA LOOKALIKE POSTER NOW! LOLOLOL
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Oh Humon. I love SatW, you should give it a try. Not all of her history is the same history that I grew up with, but she has a lot of cool facts at her finger tips. And her stereotypes are way more accurate to Europe than Hetalia's
Well, when talking to someone who has firm OTP inclinations, the best thing you can do is change the topic quickly. Personally, I would mention that I did not feel that the countries' history could not be interpreted as a positive relationship ever. Denmark, although it forgave Sweden for its neutrality in WWII (when Germany made plans to deport all of the Jews in Denmark, the Danes begged the Swedes to take them in. In one night about 6,000 people were shipped across the Danish Straights to Sweden), still seems a bit sore about losing the Napoleonic War and Norway being given to Sweden. Also, these are the two countries that hold the world record for number of wars fought /against/ each other, and if you go into a Danish pub I really recommend that you don't order in Swedish. Apparently they intentionally snub Swedes.
Also, in cannon, Himaruya has stated that Sweden could not put up with Denmark, and has very clearly shown that Sweden has been crushing on Finland since 1500. In a strip that probably took place in 1617 he thinks about Finland 'Some day, I'll be able to tell him' [link] You will also notice in that page, it's Finland who is all raring to go hakkapeliitta on Lithuania's bottom. Sweden is more worried about Finland getting hurt*.
And to quote again from 'Masks of Eris's 'Guide to Finland': [link]
Being a great power in the north of Europe (heck, all of Europe) meant fighting many bloody wars, and Finns were very good in fighting as long as someone told them who they were supposed to fight. After the Protestant Reformation swept over Sweden, Swedes and Finns fought in the Thirty Yearsβ War (1618β48) under their king Gustavus Adolphus, gleefully raping and pillaging Germany for the glorious Protestant cause.
In those wars Finnish light cavalry was known as hakkapeliitat (sing. hakkapeliitta), which probably comes from their war-cry of βHakkaa pÀÀlle!β, which best translates as βCut them down!β
I trust that the opposing forces understood their intent, if not their words. When a troop of frothing, sword-waving, screaming, pistol-shooting soldiers charges at you, heavy horses churning the ground and the riders yelling strange broken backwards-Latin curses, you can usually trust they mean to cut you down, or worse.
Itβs a common view in Finland that these Finnish cavalrymen were widely feared and respected, instrumental in Swedenβs success in the wars the kingdom fought, and maybe even thought invulnerable by their Catholic opponents because of some dark Protestant witchcraft. Swedes apparently think the victories were because of their advanced military tactics, but since this is a Guide to Finland, we shanβt believe that.
Scary witchy Finnish kill-riders! Booga booga! Hakkaa pÀÀlle!
Akk, sorry. I became one of those people, didn't I? Sorry. OTL. I get really bothered about the weepy uke stereotype that Fin is given by fans, when he isn't that way at all.
And here's a smaller version of the poster: [link] 
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