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M230 30mm Chain Gun Automatic Cannon from ATK Armament Systems. It is standard armament for the Apache helicopter. The M230LF is a link fed variant for ground use.Each shot puts out 9,000 pounds of recoil force.
I am a big fan of chainguns. Most externally powered weapons rely on the ammunition quality for safety. That makes for catastrophic failures in the event of a hangfire. The ATK chainguns have a mechanism to hold the bolt closed in such an event.
All chainguns have a single fixed barrel. There is no such thing as a gatling style multi barrel chaingun. Doom is wrong.
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ManushMonitor [2015-07-14 03:30:37 +0000 UTC]
Could you please define based on your knowledge, the difference between chaingun and gatling gun? I get so much info and can't really tell what is correct and what not...
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Mydin In reply to ManushMonitor [2015-07-14 04:21:12 +0000 UTC]
A chain gun uses external power to drive a chain that provides timing and bolt operation. They have a single barrel and tend to be "cannons" rather than guns. That is to say, medium calibre. Most modern designs have mechanisms that will hold the bolt closed in the event of a hang fire. This makes them particularly safe. The advantages of external timing and operation are lost with smaller calibres.
A gatling gun usually refers to the whole family of multi-barrel automatic weapons that use an elliptical cam path to operate the bolts. Because each barrel only fires a fraction of the total cyclic rate, the gatling guns can usually fire much longer bursts than single barreled weapons. They're suitable for medium to small calibres. Because a hung round will still be extracted, there is a slightly higher risk of firing out-of-battery. The actual Gatling gun was hand cranked and invented by Richard Gatling. Most modern designs stem from that.
Both designs can be operated by electric or hydraulic power. A few odd Russian gatling style guns are self-powered. If you like novel firearm mechanisms, look into the Gast gun. It uses two barrels linked together by a lever. The recoil from one cycles the other. Ingeniously simple.
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ManushMonitor In reply to Mydin [2015-07-15 01:52:44 +0000 UTC]
THANKS! This explained more than I could find in a lot of articles. Thanks for the short but to-the-point answer. I will look more into it.
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Mydin In reply to ManushMonitor [2015-07-16 05:33:55 +0000 UTC]
Not a problem. Many of these designs have performance nuances you won't find in online articles.
Another misconception I'd like to clarify is that there's no significant "wind up" time on the gatling guns. The minigun may have a slightly slower start the very first time the triggers are pulled since ammo first needs to feed through the feeder-delinker before it reaches the gun.
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CosmOSmocker [2015-03-07 22:01:54 +0000 UTC]
chainguns are large caliber automatic cannons. so somehow, they are better than miniguns bofors 40mm rulez.
the people mismatching chaingun and minigun arent many, since doom 3 is almost a decade old.
from looking a bit on google, it's only used by people who like doom and have no weapon knowlenge..
imho, wouldn't even bother.
Doom is so overrated, i haven't even played it, and i prefer wolfenstein, no pun intended.
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Mydin In reply to CosmOSmocker [2015-03-08 03:45:20 +0000 UTC]
I still get questions about the chaingun/minigun at airshows, so the whole Doom effect seems to be lingering.
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Raakone [2012-12-01 05:46:48 +0000 UTC]
Awesome picture. And yes, thanks to Doom, people confuse "chaingun" and "minigun"
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LordCastigator [2012-07-26 00:37:31 +0000 UTC]
So chainguns are single barreled & fire a belt (a chain) of ammo, a Gatling gun has multiple barrels & usually also use chain ammo, Miniguns are...portable versions of Gatling guns?
Either way, awesome weapon...
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Mydin In reply to LordCastigator [2012-07-26 12:45:17 +0000 UTC]
Ammo in belted form is called "linked." The Chain Gun is called a chain gun because it uses what looks almost like a bike chain to time the mechanism. They have one barrel.
Gatling Guns were invented by Richard Gatling. Miniguns use the same operating principle (elliptical cam path) so it's not entirely inaccurate to call them Gatling guns. They have multiple barrels.
They can use both linked ammo or loose ammo. They can both be made into semi-portable and fixed configurations, but always* require an external power source.
*there are a few Russian gatling style guns that are self powered.
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Kaotima [2010-01-01 09:28:55 +0000 UTC]
That's a pretty awesome gun... I'll admit, I'm usually in the habit of using 'minigun', 'chaingun', 'gatling' and the like interchangeably. Huh. Learn something every day.
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nateman747 [2009-11-09 04:39:40 +0000 UTC]
but as you probably know, many people get them confused based on looks.
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nateman747 [2009-11-08 04:39:55 +0000 UTC]
sorry but yes there is such thing as a multi barrel chaingun
[link]
cool pic anyway though
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Mydin In reply to nateman747 [2009-11-08 08:05:44 +0000 UTC]
I have personally been to the range where that video was taken. It's a Dillon Aero M134 DC Drive Minigun. Not a chaingun. Whoever told you that's a chaingun is flat out wrong. It uses an elliptical cam path for bolt timing as per Richard Gatlings original design. A chaingun uses a chain. This is the gun: [link]
Thank you for viewing my photo.
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Fitz-Chivalry In reply to Mydin [2012-03-31 16:14:36 +0000 UTC]
I find it amusing how much you know about guns. I guess when you do something for a living you know what pertains to it.
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nateman747 In reply to Mydin [2009-11-09 04:36:06 +0000 UTC]
hmm thank you, i will have 2 tell them that.
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nohopeforhuman [2009-04-20 20:32:06 +0000 UTC]
nice mounted gun...GOD BLESS RICHARD GATLING!more than this low performance gun
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RTJDudek [2008-12-02 20:52:54 +0000 UTC]
So that's how does this cannon looks...
I recognize it was mounted on AH-64 Apache.
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