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Published: 2019-06-04 18:09:59 +0000 UTC; Views: 586; Favourites: 23; Downloads: 4
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Here's Lumikki, my straight boyo. He's an Ice/Seawing, having more Icewing traits than Seawing but unable to live in either tribe without being noticed for a hybrid.Related content
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Why does it matter what I identify with to state an opinion? That honestly makes no sense...
One doesn't have to be in a certain group of people to express their opinions and values. All opinions are valid, especially if one has commited heavy research towards the subject.
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By your logic, WinkTheWolf, you're basically extending this to everything. Insert another issue, "You're not a starving child in africa, so you can't have an opinion on that. You can't just do research into this, it's not a science project, it's real people." You see how silly that sounds when you extend it to other matters.
I'm sorry that we offended you, but some people just really want to be able to fly their own flag. They did make a straight flag after all, so why can't they wave it?
Pride month is about love. Why not show a little bit of love to other people. I've found that most people are kind and wonderful. Their sexuality doesn't matter. Why should it? And pride is about being proud. If you're not going to let people be proud of being straight, then why should they let you be proud of whatever you identify as.
As long as neither of you are those trumpeting kind of people who force others, it doesn't matter.
Love is love. Let people represent themselves. Be kind. And have some dignity for goodness sake, it's pride month after all, not make a fool of yourself month. Would you still be proud of anything you said here after the month is over?
Just be kind, and let him do what he wants. Is it directly affecting you? No, huh? Weird. Almost like one guy posting a straight character, with a flag, isn't going to affect you. Weird, right.
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True that many people were nasty towards those in the lgbt, but you do realize that several people of the LGBTQ+ are starting to become just as bad as those straight people that acted like that in the past? No offense, but I find it hypocritical... 
I mean, I don't agree fully with your opinion as well, as nowadays the majority of people who celebrate Pride month also include the hetero flag as well. A lot of people in the LGBTQ+ community sees that straights are also apart of the month. Many wants the casting aside to end and make pride month inclusive for everyone, no matter their sexuality. DA has voiced this as well. We want history to stop repeating itself, no matter what. No matter what side.
It isn't just "LGBT" anymore, it's LGBTQ+, as it's been stated almost everywhere. It is now becoming the norm that this month is for everyone to be sexually proud, no matter what they are.
Rather than just including one particular sexuality, it's better to have those who are open to all, rather than to continue history in casting certain people aside.
We can agree to disagree. Everyone has their opinions and the right to them. I stand by mine and with the community that speaks out for that as well.
I do not say this to spit on anyone's face either. I believe this is an all inclusive event and I do stand by it and respect everyone who wants to voice their sexuality.
Yeah, sure it may have started out as a LGBT month only, but it has grown so much over the years where It's now including everyone. Not just the LGBT.
So I do understand, I have researched into this and I have generated my opinion in this matter, just as much as you did.
So in the end, if you don't agree with me, then let's just agree to disagree. ^^
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I have voiced my views and honestly I'm going to stand by them...
In regards to queers... There were people in my school who pronounced themselves as queers...
Of course not many straight victims are going to be broadcasted because it isn't apart of the media's agenda to give such headlines... Not many give interest in knowing if straight people are being oppressed or not. I personally have seen people irl and online get bullied for being a cis white male nowadays, worse than before.... That's been happening more often than not, not only by the LGBTQ+ community, but also by the BLM and Feminists...
There's videos giving live footage to such accusations... It may not be in the title, but after seeing many of these, I notice that it is a concern of today.
I mean, honestly I'm not going to dive too deep into giving articles as I am a tad busy irl rn, visiting family and all.
I will still stand by my views...
People today are saying that pride month is a month to celebrate the sexuality of everyone because there is no need to cast anyone away from it.
I'm going to say this again
The last thing I want to see is a "Straight Pride Only Month" vs a "LGBTQ+ Pride Only Month"... That's just going to make things divisive. Don't get me wrong though... I'm not advocating for a straight pride month. Just stating it based off of some groups that wants to make it a thing...
That's one thing I would disagree to make happen, as of course it just doesn't make sense and is a legit spit to the face.
I may be slow with my replies from now on as I have to tend to rl issues,
At least I can thank you for having a civil conversation and not just outright bashing me with slurs and the like, like many others do. ;v;
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Just because cishet isn't a slur to you, doesn't mean that it isn't a slur to someone else. Yeah, it's only okay if LGBT+ members use the q word, just like it's only okay if an African-American uses the n word. Anyone else uses these words, much less a straight, white, male, they automatically get back-lashed how it's 'not their word to say.' If someone isn't 'flaming gay' they must automatically be a cishet, aren't they? I have friends of the LGBT+ community that aren't going around, screaming their gender and sexuality at the top of their lungs at everyone they meet. They treat everyone, even their straight friends, with respect, and I don't ever hear them call them cishet. However, I have met adults of the LGBT+ community who have degraded cisgender, heterosexual teens for just being there, the adult treating them like garbage, even if the kid did nothing wrong.
And I'm just going to say that most LGBT+ members that are killed today are mainly in countries where it has been illegal for thousands of years, mainly because of religious views or for want to further contribute to the population, but in some countries, women are killed for cheating on their husbands with other men, whether they were raped or not. Some countries still don't allow these same women to have a voice in their society, they're stuck in arranged marriages, not even being free to express themselves. Of course, all crimes against the LGBT+ community are horrible and are usually taken out by a few ignorant countries and extremist groups that take the blind 'religious liberty' to go out and murder these innocent people because it's said in a small passage of a book.
There's always going to be hate crime against people, no matter religion, sexuality, gender, nation, or racial ethnicity. Even in parts of a country or world someone will un-rightfully assume you're something because of your color and where you come from. I've heard everything from 'You're Russian, so you must like vodka,' to 'You're white and you're from the southern United States, so you must be a cousin fucking, loose-toothed, barn-sleeping, racist, homophobic, Nazi, KKK member.' It's wrong to assume something of someone because they aren't like you and they don't share your views. It's wrong to try to silence someone because they don't share your views. We all have a right to an opinion, it's just whether or not you're willing to be childish enough to cause the drama over how you're blind to anyone else's opinion and how yours is superior.
Yes, it's Pride Month. But it's not the artist's fault that someone made a Pride Flag for straight people. It's not the artist's fault that there is literally a Straight Pride parade in Boston right now. It's a great piece of artwork, nonetheless. That's what DeviantArt is about. Looking at artwork. Not starting drama over something that isn't politically correct.
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It may be a slur to you... But it's all determined by the persons context of the word. I don't use the word "Queer" as a slur, but for some who defined themselves as that. It's just like the word "Retard". It may be a slur term for some, but is a legitament term used in the medical field.
The meaning of words change based on the person who uses them. It's all determined by the person's usage of the word and what their context for that word is. I stand by that.
Also, assuming what someone is by text alone is already toxic in of itself. You don't even know me and you're already identifying me as a cishet. I find it disrespectful to label someone that you only just met. You don't see me labeling your sexuality. I don't even know you.
Also, I'm not someome that will immediately proclaim that the word "cishet" is a slur by the way, as like I said and stand before, it's all based off the context of the used word, not the word in of itself.
There has been "straight victims". The problem is that you just don't want to acknowledge it, especially after explaining it to you in detai...
"the media is run by white, cishet people"? You're already generalizing the media without properly looking into it. Not all news outlets are controllled by such people... Look at Byron Allen for instance...
It may not equate for "years", but it may become so if we don't put a stop to it now. The problem is arising and you literally see people becoming divisive nowadays. Rather than being divisive, we should all be forward to equally accepting everyone.
You do know that there is a law called the "Employment Discrimination Law" that states:
"Employment Discrimination laws seek to prevent discrimination based on race, sex, sexual orientation, religion, national origin, physical disability, and age by employers. Discriminatory practices include bias in hiring, promotion, job assignment, termination, compensation, retaliation, and various types of harassment."
Nobody should be biased on who they hire, even if they strive for diversity. So no, it's not "cishet white privilege". It's ironic that people use such a word when there are so many people of different color, races, genders of today have the priviledge to work in such large and diverse companies. The guy explains it so well in thia video: youtu.be/juQLifY4l_0
Like the Employment Lawer stated:
"Positive action is an incredibly important tool to aid diversity in the workforce but this case is a reminder that it must be applied correctly to ensure that employers still recruit candidates based on merit above all else.”
Also saying "now, correct me if you want (you cant)" already makes you shut off my argument from the get go. Anyways, to correct you. Look at the holocaust. You know that those people were murdered for decades just because they were jewish, and sadly they are still targeted and murdered today. Not only did the people from the Holocaust target those that were Jewish, but those who just simply existed based on their looks. If they didn't have blond hair and blue eyes, they were taken to the concentration camp. Many others were targeted too, such as gypsies and gays/les, even people by the color of their skin. But the majority who lived in those regions who were killed were white cishet people. People of religion, which many are cishet as it's apart of their belief, are also targeted and killed on a daily basis. It may not be always in the US, but it's all over the world.
Yeah, it may not be direct hate towards cishets sexuality, but people of all kinds in this world, even white cishets, has gone through some kind of opression and murder that's lasted for decades. But this isn't a contest on who has been opressed/murdered the most. They are all valid in this world.
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theres a difference between discrimination and oppression sure, cishets have been discriminated against. everyone has been for some reason. but oppression is completely different and cishets have never been oppressed?? what do you not understand. if you actually think cisgendered heterosexuals have been oppressed, then im sorry to say that u have probably been living under a rock for the past. forever lol
and cishet is not a slur, period, because its just an abbreviation of 'cisgendered heterosexual' that some cishets got mad about snd called a slur even though slurs get their power from oppression and cishets have never, ever, been oppressed.
also, retard is a slur. it comes from 'retardation' which is an abandoned term. 'retard' itself is not a medical term, it comes from a medical term. there is a difference.
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I'm sorry, I'm just going to end the conversation here because it's honestly not going anywhere...
I'm also not a big fan on how you have treated some others in this chat, as well as on your page. Sorry that you have a thing against heterosexual people for pride month. One day I do hope you'll be accepting to it like how many others have nowadays... I understand if you wont also.
I have too many things to do than stay on DA all day having an argument that leads to nothing...
Thank you for taking your time throughout the day to have a proper conversation with me.
I do wish you, and your friends, a wonderful day and pride month.
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Assuming still, even when I never voiced it... *sighs* RIP
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You do realize that it's only a slur if you use it on such a context...? It's just like the word "retarded". One may use it as a slur, but others use it as a medical term. "Nerd" and "Geek" were also once negative terms/slurs, but nowadays the context of the word has changed towards a more positive connotation.
Context decides on how a word is used. My context was saying that there are some people who describes themselves as that. You won't ever see me calling an entire community that word, or any slur in that matter.
And if you read what I wrote, I wasn't going to dig super deep into this matter to continuously show articles. It's an article that exactly defines oppression towards a white heterosexual male. Whenever someone is getting hired for a job, they are protected by the Employmemt Discrimination Law which "seek to prevent discrimination based on race, sex, sexual orientation, religion, national origin, physical disability, and age by employers. Discriminatory practices include bias in hiring, promotion, job assignment, termination, compensation, retaliation, and various types of harassment."
I also just realized that you're friends with Lux...
I mean, I appreciate and respect that you're defending her, but sometimes it's best for the conversation to be between two people to avoid a mess, as well as to avoid the assumption of white knighting. Not saying you are, you might have come here out of your own volition
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it’s a slur because it was used as a slur against lgbt people. and the r slur is a slur too. don’t compare them to “nerd” because they are and never will be the same thing. so if you aren’t lgbt don’t say the q slur. and you find one article about the “oppression” about white heterosexual male while hundreds of more out number it for lgbt people.
as for lux, I’m not defending her. you aren’t accusing her of anything so why would i defend her. im simply here because you are wrong about the use of straight pride and the q slur.
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It may have been a slur used against the LGBT community in the past, but nowadays there are legitament people who actually identifies themselves as that... One doesn't have to be in the community to use it, especially if they use it to describe someone who actually calls themselves that...
Nerd, believe it or not, was an actually slur back in the day... And I never said that they mean the same thing, but their value as a word changing throughout the years have their similarities.
I'm glad that's not the case
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just because some people use it doesn’t mean everyone is comfortable with it. im lgbt and im not at all comfortable with it. some people reclaim and others don’t but it’s generally perceived as a slur. and yes only people in the lgbt community can use it in general. you can call one person that if they are comfortable with it but would you call an entire crowd of lgbt that? no because people _still_ is it as a slur. not all, but a lot.
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only my friends call me lux dont call me that also winky can do whatever she wants so...
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I apologize as I had no way of knowing. I only shortened your name as I didn't want to take so long to write it out.
Also, like I said I "respect and appreciate" that she can do whatever she likes, but just letting her know that it can be percieved negatively by passerbys. It's usually best to keep a conversation between two so it doesn't turn out to be a dramatic mess.
People may perceive it as white knighting, which in turn some sees White Knight's as someone who is only biased to their friend's opinions and their friend's alone.
That's the last thing I want anyone to go through or be seen as... ;__; So I mostly said it out of concern.
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uh. thx for ur concern then ig?
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Thank you, Popokino, for helping to make the world a less hypocritical place...
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Hold up, hold up, isn’t that technically a derogatory thing to say referring to a straight person? I mean, I’m not expert on the matter, but it seems to me like calling someone a (insert word I won’t mention starting with an F, an insult to homosexuals). Like, I have plenty of LGBT friends who I don’t give special treatment JUST because they don’t have interest in the same things I do. I mean seriously, does it even matter? Treat people how they deserve to be treated as HUMANS.
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Shut up hypocrite.
Not you Popokino, I agree with you.
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Thank you Corrupted-Ciphers~ <3
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