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Description Before you start whining and/or reporting my stamp(s) as offensive to your sensitive little head -




I do not believe that it would be morally acceptable for me (me, myself, personally) to raise whatever children I do end up having to be religious in any way. I was not raised 'forced' to believe -- slightly suggested was more like it -- and I think I turned out just fine.

Now, that's not to say I'm not going to expose my children to the many different religions out there. Religions are very interesting things. I think they're worth having a look at. I would like to show them these different faiths, while at the same time making sure they know that people all over the world believe many different things, and that while these things are interesting and fun to think and talk about, they cannot all be true.

When my kids get to an age where they can decide for themselves what they want to believe, then I'll go on from there. If the end up Christian,Hindu, Pagan, Jewish, Muslim, Atheist... then that's their decision, and I will want them to know that I support them no matter what.

So don't think that I'm an evil atheist who is going to force my children to NOT believe, just don't think that I'm going to force them TO believe anything supernatural in particular, either.

As a side note - While I was taking a shower today I had a fun little idea - Science Sunday School! There really aren't any Sunday School options for... well. Atheists. But it'd be really neat to see someone put together a Sunday School program for children interested in science and stuff -- regardless of faith. How awesome would that be?

Edit:
I should also add that NO. I am not trying to make science into a religion. I can see how my previous wording could have been mistaken by someone not really paying attention the the whole paragraph. That's okay, I'm used to people taking quotes out of context and trying to use them to justify silliness.

Science is obviously not a religion. Sunday School, as I experienced it, was mostly about creating community and friends, while still learning and enjoying something that we had a common interest in -- in that case, yes, it was God. But the difference here is that I do not worship science, and that accepting children of other faiths into whatever science club would come would NOT be about religious experience. You can enjoy science while still being of X, Y, and Z faith.

The point of said school would be to encourage an interest in science - something that America desperately will need of its youth if it wants to continue to compete in the world economy in the future. That's the way I see it.

Additionally - I could call it a "Sunday Science Club," but you know what? Nah. I'm going to stick with School. Because Christianity does not have a monopoly on Sunday activities, they do not own the words "Sunday" or "School," and you know what? S.S.S. looks way cooler than S.S.C. It even sounds more bad-ass, like a snake or something.

You know what, I'm totally going to go through with this when I move back to the US. And our mascot will be the snakes. I'll make billboards and post them on the sides of the roads so that everyone will be forced to look at them, too. And if your kid is too busy going to Church to attend this bad-ass super sweet Sunday Science School, then that's too bad. The rest of the Super Sweet Sunday Science School Snakes and I will be doing Science and not giving a single damn, because that's just how we roll.

SCIENCE SNAKES FO LYFE (But only the one life, because the majority of us will probably not believe in an afterlife. Although some might, but still, it's worth mentioning that there is probably no God, just to piss you off.)

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Adding on some fun things for certain people:

The Jefferson Bible - Thomas Jefferson's version of the New Testament wherein he removed all sections of the four gospels which contain the Resurrection, most miracles, passages indicating that Jesus was divine, and most mentions of the supernatural.

Thomas Jefferson - one of America's founding fathers. Was a Christian in name, however held deistic views. Insisted on the separation of Church and State on several different occasions.

Deism - the belief that reason and observation of the natural world are sufficient to determine the existence of God, accompanied with the rejection of revelation and authority as a source of religious knowledge. Deism became prominent in the 17th and 18th centuries during the Age of Enlightenment among intellectuals raised as Christians who believed in one god, but found fault with organized religion and could not believe in supernatural events such as miracles, the inerrancy of scriptures, or the Trinity.

Christian Fundamentalism - a movement within Protestantism upholding a literal reading of the Bible. Fundamentalists fight against things like evolution because it contradicts their warm fuzzy feelings about God popping everything into existence as-is (despite evidence that supports the Theory of Evolution), and are viewed by many as intolerant, narrow-minded, and obscurantist.

Creationism - the religious belief that humanity, life, the Earth, and the universe are the creation of a supernatural being, usually the Abrahamic flavour of God. Despite mounds of evidence that is in support of evolution, and an enormous LACK of evidence for creationism, people still cling to this way of thinking because, because God! And Jesus! Tide goes in, tide goes out! You can't explain that!

Atheism - the rejection of belief in the existence of deities. That's it. Seriously.


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Comments: 919

Mephisto996 In reply to ??? [2018-10-26 23:17:40 +0000 UTC]

These comments don't reflect who I am anymore. I've actually matured and stopped being an angry atheist. I don't care what you believe in, if your beliefs make you a better person, then go right ahead.

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Big-bad-Rocket In reply to Mephisto996 [2018-10-26 23:25:49 +0000 UTC]

Β Cheers mate.Β 

For the record God dose not send people to Hell just because they are(for want of a better word) ignorant of him.(I don’t use that in a offensive way) I mean in fact God doesn’t send anyone to Hell, we send ourselves. Anyway take care of yourself. πŸ‘

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isick16 In reply to ??? [2017-01-14 03:07:45 +0000 UTC]

It took me a while to like to go to church.

Dear goodness i missed out a lot(and still missing out a lot)

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SuakuDatAss In reply to ??? [2016-09-11 19:59:34 +0000 UTC]

Mother forces me to go to church.

Wonders why I'm agnostic.

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GothicGalaxy In reply to SuakuDatAss [2017-03-03 23:04:11 +0000 UTC]

Same but I'm Wiccan

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weas-el In reply to ??? [2016-09-10 02:28:12 +0000 UTC]

I'm agnostic. I won't force my kids to believe in it either.Β 

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greenpower12 In reply to ??? [2016-08-21 06:09:51 +0000 UTC]

As a Christian, I agree with this stamp. Sure, I'll tell them about God and things like that, but if they choose to believe otherwise, then I'm not gonna argue.

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Cupcakearecool In reply to ??? [2016-08-18 19:14:53 +0000 UTC]

i can relate so many ways that it's sad.
my parents are very religious christians, the worst of it from my dad.
he's homophobic,racist,transphobic, and against anything that goes for equal rights.
and if i even mention homosexuals, equality, and what not, he gives me some bs speech on how bad they are and deserve to die.
he'd disown me if he found out i'm bi but fuck it, never liked him anyways~

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SonicBoom-zers In reply to ??? [2016-07-20 17:34:59 +0000 UTC]

Teaching & informing =/= forcing it

If she/he said: DO THIS, ONLY BELIEVE IN THIS OR U GO TO HELL!

is forcing them.

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Inky-Shade In reply to ??? [2016-07-10 13:46:45 +0000 UTC]

It's not bad to introduce religion to your kids because it is part of our culture (unfortunately), but never ever tell them what they should beliefe in or force them in any religious ritual.

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frankier-o [2016-06-13 20:16:37 +0000 UTC]

my mom taught me about god, jesus, and heaven,Β  but i was never forced to follow that religion.

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Vehement-Crusade In reply to ??? [2016-06-08 16:59:20 +0000 UTC]

Fun fact: forcing doesn't work anyway.


But if you're not going to educate them in The Word of God, explore fundamental Christian values and nurture in them Pure Hearts of Love and selflessness like Christ, teach them about how The Lord laid down His life for EVERYONE, (even those who falsely accused Him, beat Him, spit on Him, crucified Him...) and persistently forgave them.... and if you're not going to allow them to flourish in Biblical foundations in Honouring God and exuding a spiritual security and humble righteousness.... if you DON'T want your child to look like the humility and Love of Jesus The Messiah..... the God and King above all kings....

if that really is abominable to you.... maybe you should give someone else the Honour of taking care of your children. Because i cannot understand the "logic" behind refusing to nurture your children to grow up in the Love and belief of Christ. To deny them those Truths and the Pure/Biblical moral boundaries that reflect THE MOST Selfless, Most Loving, Most Forgiving, Most Compassionate, Most EXTRAORDINARY, Profound Man that changed the course of history........ wow.

God was loving to give us a Gift of Freewill, and is this really what we use it for? To deny Him, and deny our children the right of being raised to know, Love, and Honour God?


Pathetic.

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TiredMemes In reply to Vehement-Crusade [2016-08-01 17:49:36 +0000 UTC]

If the person doesn't have to teach their kids about "God" and Jesus, they don't have to. Β That doesn't mean that they are incapable of taking care of their own kids. You make it seem as if teaching kids about God is mandatory.

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SonicBoom-zers In reply to Vehement-Crusade [2016-07-20 17:35:45 +0000 UTC]

THIS

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KittyWolves123 In reply to ??? [2016-04-29 16:20:08 +0000 UTC]

My mom has raised me christian since I think the second grade. She really wanted me to be christian and regularly tells me that if I'm not a christian I will go to hell. My dad says that I can choose any religion and he would be happy with it. But my mom says he's "talking nonsense" and if I follow his advice I'll end up in hell. Is my mom forcing her religion down my throat? Just wondering, and no, this is not a sarcastic or rhetorical question

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Imtheaura In reply to KittyWolves123 [2017-06-15 05:10:49 +0000 UTC]

She is, id reccomend not listening to any of the stuff flying out of her mouth

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FelisLupus In reply to KittyWolves123 [2016-05-18 20:07:55 +0000 UTC]

God will still love you, and she'll be the one going to hell if she keeps it up.

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PrincessSkyler In reply to KittyWolves123 [2016-05-13 18:28:18 +0000 UTC]

Um, yes. She's DEFINATELY shoving it down your throat. I feel so sorry for you.

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Coreyinthehouse [2016-04-13 16:48:33 +0000 UTC]

As a Christian myself I actually agree with the not forcing them into religion.
but they should be taught what their parents believe, but not forced.
like, if they're just believing it cause their parents tell them too, they're not really believing.
and that's the important part.

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The-Ginger-Sky [2016-04-11 22:53:05 +0000 UTC]

My parents ensure I am Christian. I wouldn't mind it if they just stop at simply taking me to church-but, nope. I am a bisexual, but they've told me I'm not allowed to be gay. I fear they'll try and send me to an asylum if I come out-not to mention, they try to make me believe what they do. Such as their belief that all muslims are terrorists.

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imadouchbag In reply to The-Ginger-Sky [2016-04-13 13:09:26 +0000 UTC]

Flagged as Spam

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The-Ginger-Sky In reply to imadouchbag [2016-04-13 16:19:39 +0000 UTC]

I don't think a 13 year old can move out of their parents house.

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imadouchbag In reply to The-Ginger-Sky [2016-04-13 16:30:27 +0000 UTC]

Flagged as Spam

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The-Ginger-Sky In reply to imadouchbag [2016-04-13 17:33:10 +0000 UTC]

rip us all

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FelisLupus In reply to The-Ginger-Sky [2016-05-18 20:08:28 +0000 UTC]

What'd they say?

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The-Ginger-Sky In reply to FelisLupus [2016-05-19 00:58:24 +0000 UTC]

Can't remember, honestly.

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X-G7 In reply to ??? [2016-04-02 05:58:56 +0000 UTC]

I literally have not one flying fuck to give about religion. Let people believe what they will so as long as it doesn'tΒ hurt them or anyone else physically/mentally.

I'mΒ atheist. or whatev people are calling it. lel.


tho let's be fair, religion has it's positive influences despite all the negativity it seems to spawn amongst the crowds. ( architecture, interior design, hand crafts, clothing and culture in general ).

little edit on the html because I'm a stickler. derp.

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Undertale-Trashie In reply to ??? [2016-03-20 06:48:42 +0000 UTC]

* I'm a atheist and approve of this

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Green-Tea-Flower In reply to ??? [2016-02-21 22:25:59 +0000 UTC]

Religion = I know what's best for you!
Atheism = YOU know what's best for you!

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wakaflockaflame1 In reply to Green-Tea-Flower [2016-04-17 19:41:18 +0000 UTC]

But man clearly knows not what is best for them...a man has a choice in everything he does, so if he decides rape or murder is what's best for him. Just how flawed that logic is tho...

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rnorninq In reply to wakaflockaflame1 [2016-06-08 02:45:44 +0000 UTC]

Not everyone is a criminal, genius.

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wakaflockaflame1 In reply to rnorninq [2016-06-08 02:47:51 +0000 UTC]

The fuck did I say they were? Please point out where I said that...

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rnorninq In reply to wakaflockaflame1 [2016-06-08 02:53:11 +0000 UTC]

"a man has a choice in everything he does, so if he decides rape or murder is what's best for him."

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wakaflockaflame1 In reply to rnorninq [2016-06-08 03:44:08 +0000 UTC]

And you interpret that as me saying everybody is a criminal just because I used rape and murder as an example?

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rnorninq In reply to wakaflockaflame1 [2016-06-08 05:04:55 +0000 UTC]

No...

Nevermind, I can't explain it.

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wakaflockaflame1 In reply to rnorninq [2016-06-10 00:12:25 +0000 UTC]

Just as I thought... Β 

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Sunshineluigi In reply to Green-Tea-Flower [2016-03-19 03:32:30 +0000 UTC]

I wish we could like comments...... Oh what the heck!

+

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AuriaWriter1995 In reply to ??? [2016-02-17 20:18:51 +0000 UTC]

I won't be having kids anytime soon. But if I did, I would like to show them to the path of God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit. However, I can't force them to believe if they choose not to. I will try to get them back into the faith if they choose not to believe. But if they want anything to do with God, then I won't force it on them. Whatever happens is up to them and God.

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Pink-Kitte In reply to ??? [2016-02-04 23:53:05 +0000 UTC]

Hell or Heaven? Satan or God?
Both have something' in common.Β 
Neither are real. And never will be.

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KittyWolves123 In reply to Pink-Kitte [2016-04-29 16:21:25 +0000 UTC]

Well, that's what you think. And if you are going to call people idiots for not being Atheists then you, yourself, are forcing your beliefs down people's throats.

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CassiWWF In reply to Pink-Kitte [2016-02-18 00:42:03 +0000 UTC]

In your opinion.

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Pink-Kitte In reply to CassiWWF [2016-02-22 22:35:17 +0000 UTC]

youareanidiot.org/

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CassiWWF In reply to Pink-Kitte [2016-02-23 11:06:19 +0000 UTC]

And you're ignorant.

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Pink-Kitte In reply to CassiWWF [2016-02-24 03:01:09 +0000 UTC]

Β 

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CassiWWF In reply to Pink-Kitte [2016-02-24 18:25:32 +0000 UTC]

Okay....?

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kit-kaboodie In reply to ??? [2016-01-12 22:07:25 +0000 UTC]

I was Christian up until 6th grade. Not because I went to church or anything, I hadn't even really seen a bible in person.
I was Christian because my mom wanted me to be.
It wasn't really forced, so much as given no other option, like somebody that wouldn't force you to eat a hot dog but wouldn't tell you that there are other types of food.Β 
I 'came out' as atheist about a year ago, and she was angry. She told me that she would not allow me to be atheist under her roof until I had Bible classes and really understood the Bible and what it teaches. Funny how I could say I was christian simply because my mom got it into my head while I was at such an impressionable age and she'd be fine with it, but after many months of thinking it over I said I was atheist and suddenly I don't know what I'm talking about, huh?

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HiruHikari13 In reply to ??? [2015-12-28 01:15:06 +0000 UTC]

i'm a christian and i agree with this stamp

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glovannas In reply to HiruHikari13 [2016-01-01 02:18:40 +0000 UTC]

Same here.

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BaneHatredNightOdium In reply to ??? [2015-12-18 16:13:26 +0000 UTC]

This is the most horrible thing that you could do to your child. For me, it screwed my life up badly, very badly.

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SansSkeletonHUN In reply to BaneHatredNightOdium [2017-10-06 15:39:11 +0000 UTC]

It WAS YOUR life.

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