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"Being Pro-Personal Responsibility is being Pro-Birth Control." - ~Starlow-FTWI thought this was a very good point, and with their permission I decided it would make a pretty good stamp!
This is a great reason why folks should be in support of contraception - by using it, people are taking personal responsibility for themselves.
I'd also like to add - being pro-birth control is a good way to combat abortion, if you do not believe that it is right. Studies show that making birth control available free of charge to women can, and does, reduce the rates of abortion.
I fully support taxpayer money going towards contraception being made available to women all over the country. It's the only answer to lowering abortion rates that is likely to work (at least for now - who knows, someone might be able to come up with another plausible idea).
Anyway, thank you again ~Starlow-FTW for letting me borrow your quote there!
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Young girl named Lia Mills speech for stop abortion, please watch this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzUb6iβ¦
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I wouldn't EXIST!
after all she'd be dead because of ovary problems without birth control....
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I'm not against birth control, but no one other than the people consenting to each other should pay for it. Sex is a privilege, not a right. You won't die not having it, so it is a choice. If you make the decision to do it, pay the consequences of it. It falls on no one but them.
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We MUST End Abortion! Ban Birth Control NOW!!!
Birth Control prevents more abortions than you EVER could!
WHORE!!!! PAGAN WHORE!!!!!!
And it's such a mystery why you have such a problem recruiting women.....
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the main reason birth control is a good idea is because of overpopulation
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I've never understood why some conservatives and religious folks are so against birth control (weather it's used to prevent pregnancy or just to keep hormones at their proper levels) or contraception when it's being used as a preventative and/or back up for condoms.Β I mean if it lowers abortion rates, logically, they shouldn't be getting in this much ofΒ a twist about it.Β And yeah every form of medication has it's share of risks, THAT'S WHY WE TALK TO OUR DOCTOR BEFORE GOING ON ANY MEDICATION.
But then again sometimes the fruit loops onesΒ tend to not use logic for whatever reasons. The one I heard the most often as a kid was "logic is evil!" But I think that had more to do with the fact nearly all my grade school teachers had no credentials and supposedly one never even graduated from high school and quite a few never went to college-and didn't take too kindly to students wanting to go to college, especially girls.
And I am very grateful to my 9th grade health teacher just for giving sex-ed to us straight.Β "This is how sex works; This is what happens to the human body during sex; this can happen to you when you have sex; this is how reproduction works; STD's are transferred via sex; to have safe sex, use condoms, birth control contraception, and or a combination and ladies keep track of the menstrual cycle." sure my face turned green a few times and some of it made my stomach churn, but I soldiered through it knowing it was better for me to know this stuff in the long run.
And to answer any questions grade school was a Christian school, jr. high and sr. high were public schools. and my experience at the Christian school was sucky, my experience at the public school was good.
and as a disclaimer: I do not thinkΒ conservatives and Christians are idiots. I just had the misfortune of spending grade school with too many of the ones who ARE idiots and those experiences resulting in PTSD regarding Christianity.
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The more people complain about "PAYING FUR BERF CUMTRIL N ABORTEEN SPASE LUNCHES", the more I support it.
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I'm personally not happy with my tax money going to free contraception for people who can afford it (not like I can change where my taxes go anyway), but I'm more concerned with the tax money of people who find contraception immoral to go to it, ya know?Β
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Birth control isn't just used to prevent birth, yaknow.
With out it, I'd probably be extremely sick or dead.
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And what percent of birth control is used for that as opposed to its primary purpose?Β
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We're overpopulated as is. What's wrong with birth control anyways?
Despite this, you just said you'd willingly let people die.
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That Straw Man fallacy is big enough to scare all the scarecrows in the world down to Hell. Since you obviously didn't read it, here's again what I said:Β
"And what percent of birth control is used for that as opposed to its primary purpose?"
And here is your response that not only doesn't answer my question, but fabricated incorrect assumptions and meanings behind what I meant:Β
"We're overpopulated as is. What's wrong with birth control anyways?
Despite this, you just said you'd willingly let people die."
You're not going to get very far in debate if the straw man is your trump card.Β
Regardless, I will correct your misunderstandings.Β
"We're overpopulated as is."
That depends on where you live. Pakistan? Nigeria? Those places are overpopulated. But otherwise, no, the Earth isn't exactly "overpopulated". Even if it was, what would you do about it, hmm?Β
"What's wrong with birth control anyways?"
Each person has their own opinion on that subject. I don't really have anything against contraception, but since I support the Constitution and the freedom of religion, I'm not going to force someone to buy a product or pay for a product for someone else when that product is morally reprehensible in their eyes. How would you feel if I took your tax money and donated it to NOM?
"Despite this, you just said you'd willingly let people die."
No, I didn't, dummy. Do you always assume you know what everyone beliefs so much that you ignore what they actually say they believe? I asked a question. Do you know the answer to that question?Β
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Your opinion isn't gonna change, neither is mine, so I'm willing dropping it.
Have a nice day! [no sarcasm intended vwv]
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That's fine. Just learn Debate 101 before you talk politics again, for your own sake.Β
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whoa just looked at how old this is. OOPS
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It's better than free abortions, right?
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I suppose so, if you'll excuse my butting in.
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Good stamp. I also support taxpayer money going to contraceptives. It is a much better use of money than funding our overgrown military industrial complex or giving mega-corporations who outsource jobs huge tax breaks. As for people claiming about this costing money, you need to learn that prevention is always cheaper. It costs less to help a poor person afford some form of birth control than it does to help them raise a child for 18+ years.
(Similarly, it would be cheaper if more people had health insurance to go to the doctor for preventive treatment, instead of being forced to go to the emergency room, but that's another issue.)
But yeah, there's a reason why the US has such a high abortion rate even though it's an industrialized nation. The most effective contraceptives are the most expensive and conservative state legislatures do everything in their power to make them difficult to obtain.
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Thanks for making this. I agree completely! 
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That is true. I live in a conservative state where they have abstinence only education and they would outright lie to use about how effective birth control and condoms were. Oh, and we had to sign these pledges to be abstinent or we would get our grade significantly lowered.
There was also a girl in the class who was 13 and had been pregnant twice (I think she had one miscarriage and one abortion). Clearly telling her to be a perfect pure purity princess and wait until marriage wasn't doing anything.
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I knew it.
Yikes! My school is conservative and one of the freshman girls got pregnant in January with a sophomore guy. -.- they got married a few weeks ago. (We're in college)
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Yep. I live in Arizona and the ironic thing about the "sex-ed" classes was that they kept emphasizing that Arizona had a high teen pregnancy rate. The sex-ed in high school was a bit better. At least the teacher didn't keep telling us to wait until marriage and did say we should use protection. But, we only went into superficial detail about available contraceptives with no information on where we might be able to get them. So, it was not that helpful. We had a few teen pregnancies and quite a few clusters of STDs.
Also, the school computers blocked nearly everything and most likely blocked sex-ed sites because they believed it was porn.
The depressing thing was that I live in the more liberal part of the state. But, even blue states sometimes get bad sex-ed like this.
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Of course! Censorship. 
Are you kidding? Even if I do live in a blue state, I come from a more conservative area and my mom was raised catholic. With that, I had a conservative upbringing, but once I hit college, I first learned about contraception and have continued educating myself properly from places like planned parenthood and webmd. My mom wouldn't tell me anything and it's kind of awkward for a girl to ask her dad about that (because if I ask about birth control, he would think I was active when I'm not. I'm still choosing to wait until marriage for spiritual and emotional reasons, but at least I'll be prepared so I don't get pregnant. Ever.), so I was on my own pretty much.
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Yeah, colleges are generally better about educating people about sex ed, depending on where you go. Many of the dorms would have free condoms at the front desk and the local Department of Health was right next to north campus. One thing I did notice when I was in college is that unfortunately for the most part most of the sex ed was heterosexist, as in they didn't talk about safe-sex for same-sex couples. There was a freshmen orientation class that a lot of people took where we went to a sex ed seminar. Another problem was that when they talked about abusive relationships, all of the examples where of a married heterosexual couple where the husband was abusive. Which is a problem because there's plenty of non-married couples who are in abusive relationships and domestic violence can happen where the woman is the one who's abusive and domestic violence can happen with same-sex couples.
So yeah, even college sex ed where they actually talk about safe sex still needs improvement.
And of course, not everyone goes to college but most people go to high school and middle school and so we really need better sex ed.
I didn't really have much awkwardness with my parents because I've been on the pill since I was 15 for medical reasons. Plus, I really prefer other girls over guys so I probably don't have to worry about pregnancy so much. But, still have to watch out for STDs.
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Don't you hate it when they always think the husband or male partner is abusive when women can be abusive too?
So true.
Yep.
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Yep. I think most of that line of thinking stems from the sexist belief that women are weak and that a "real man" wouldn't be abused by a woman. And of course, many people still think that emotional abuse isn't actually a thing so that's another problem.
But, there were some people in the class I was in, even one guy who were telling the people running the seminar that their information about abusive relationships was outdated. The people running the thing did actually apologize for it, but it really wouldn't have taken that long to create a hand-out that showed more examples of domestic abuse.
And here's one thing that's seldom talked about: abusive friendships. Parent/child and romantic relationships aren't the only kind of relationships that can be dysfunctional or abusive.
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That's dumb! And this whole "real man" thing is BS.
Are you serious?
Oh I know! There can be employer/employee abusive relationships, relative/relative abusive relationships. I should know. My aunt was a bitch to me dad.
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Of course, to anti-BC (that's being used to prevent pregnancy, not as treatment for disorders) like certain Catholics, personal responsibility is only having sex when you want children. To them, condoning recreational sex because 'people are going to do it anyway' is like condoning any other crime (to them, recreational sex is a crime) 'because people are going to do it anyway.' So I doubt this sentiment does anything but preach to the choir.
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finally!
yea
IΒ΄m tired of this pro life-proabortion discussions
what we should be fighting for is for a healthy birth control for women all over the world
here in my country we have the same stry
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notice they never want to ban condoms just birth control...i smell sexism
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That's not the smell of sexism, it's the smell of their bullshit.
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This is pretty much how my Republican-aligned parents raised me and my sister -- neither of them were afraid to talk to us about birth control or being responsible with our bodies. Then again, my folks are very old-school Republicans: the ones who believed in personal accountability and the various ways in which we take it -- not the mainstream ones of today who seem to believe that denying people access to the things they need will just magically make them not need or want them. When the whole "Defund Planned Parenthood" nonsense began, they were pretty livid about it.
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Birth control is not only good for preventing unwanted pregnancies its also good for a whole cocktail of benifits. Lets face it girls even if you dont plan to have sex, the pill does much more now. Lighter periods, less menstrual cramps, acne control, did i mention all the health benifits like protection against ovarian cancer and bone thinning. [link]
I mean the birth control isn't just there to prevent babies anymore. In my opinion screw the title birth control we should just call it a Miracle pill.
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Yes that is true. I've been on the pill since I was 15 because I have endometriosis. It was very nice to not have to miss school when I was on my period because of the horrible pain anymore.
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I'd go on the pill myself but i need to consult a doctor and get tested for a condition that runs in my family first so I know its safe for me to take it.
And I can understand there were times when I had my period that I actually wondered why i didn't just call in sick.
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Yes, it is important to make sure any drugs you take are safe for you to use, especially if you have genetic issues to consider.
I used to miss school sometimes because of my period, but now it's not a problem anymore thanks to birth control pills.
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They call it hormone pill in here.
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I think you are right.
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Ah yes. Those are reasons why I was taking the BC pill even when I wasn't sexually active - loved that it helped with the cramping at least haha. I for one wouldn't mind calling it a Miracle pill, lol XD
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Yah
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