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Sectoids, Ethereals, Mutons, Sectopods, Cyber discs, Floaters, Chrysalids and Snakemen vs the Empire. who would win?Related content
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When I look at this picture, I imagine Pre-Disney Empire vs. the Etheral Empire (I have no idea what to call it) and when I think it over, space battles seem in the Empire's favor. Why? The Alien ships have no shields, as far as I know from all of the XCOM games I've played, their hulls are just made out of extremely durable material. Their weapons can destroy 1990+ conventional human fighter craft in a few hits (or instantly if you include The Bureau: XCOM Declassified time era) but against Imperial technology which has shields, I think they might have a harder time. The first Death Star (I do NOT count Rogue One as canon because it COULD NOT fire and hit a nuclear blast radius target area, it would just destroy a planet) would be useless against the aliens because most of their ships are smaller than planets and the first Death Star couldn't target small targets. The SECOND Death Star could, hence making it more useful against enemy capital vessels.
On ground, the Empire has a advantage in vehicles because the only vehicle I know the Aliens use is the Sectopod and that thing's not that big. I'd actually put it at AT-ST size, with more firepower though.
Basic storm troopers have poor aim, except in large groups.
Then we've got Shadow Troopers, Jet Troopers, Imperial Commandos and a whole bunch of other troopers, along with Dark Troopers phase 1, 2 and 3s which are all droids.
Of course, a really nasty unit the Aliens have is the Chrysalid. If a single Lid got into a Imperial Base, planet or space based, it would be hell for anyone inside that base.
Honestly, when I think aboutΒ it, the Force vs. Psionics seems fairly balanced. Unless the Etherals mind-control the entire Imperial army (wouldn't put it past them). Of course, how many Etherals are there? That's a deciding factor on the number of Etherals there are. And yes, both Sidious and Vader are extremely powerful but both can be overwhelmed, even with the Force. None of the sides have a "god" tier unit on the ground.
But in my opinion, and this is because Disney ruined Star Wars by making the RULE OF TWO non-canon (it was established in a book and a comic) along with Episodes 7 and 8 (yes, I'm salty a certain character died BEFORE Chewie was supposed to), I put the Aliens as the winners. If it was still Pre-Disney Empire vs. Aliens, I'd say draw because I like both factions and both have strengths and weaknesses that each can use to their advantage.
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Very cool insight! I think both universes are equally awesome and so I created a quick doodle of a battle I imagined. XD Space battles are just too awesome. XD
I didn't put much thought into it though, and I like the shield idea you've got. XD
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X-com (XCOM) Aliens win due to Storm Trooper accuracy being so downright horrible they couldn't hit a Sectopod at point-blank range. Of course, that's just the ground battle.
Space battle........eh, unsure because of the Death Star and technically it can't really hit small and fast targets.
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Sidious can solo them all by Force Storms or mind screw.
Sidious can consume all of space, alter time, and rip reality itself through the use of Force Storms, burn entire planets with his Force lightning, mind dominate twenty billions, while also draining the a Force out of them, did galactic size battle mediation for straight 23 years and he did it for 24/7 without having a rest during his reign as the Emperor of the Galactic Empire up until to his death above Endor, he had the power to mind dominate hundreds of quadrillions as proven, he can mind dominate an entire galaxy, had became so powerful that he exists as a being of pure dark side energy , had created Force Defense so durable that it can survive attacks that literally consume and destroys everything it touches, as to not let Luke and R2-D2 or Imperial fleets transport to Byss as to not being destroyed by the all-destructive power of the Force Storm and he can also create Force Defense on scales of entire fleets, it took every single goddamn Jedi from the time of their creation up until to 11 A.B.Y. to basically seal his spirit into Chaos (the Star Wars Equivalent of hell) for an eternity and still not killing him, move at high-end relativistic speeds, and when he is a spirit, he moves at MTFL speeds.
This is all the evidence of what all, I said in this post:
comicvine.gamespot.com/star-waβ¦
Don't underestimate Stormtroopers, their armor, and their blasters.
comicvine.gamespot.com/star-waβ¦
Also, Turbolaser firepower ranges from kilotons to teratons, as shown an quad turbolaser cannon shoots 200 Gigatons per shot.
starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Acclamβ¦
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lol Those are some very valid points there. ^^
The game changer would be the Ethereals as well too wouldn't you think? ^^
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Yes but when you think about, the Force and the Psionic Power the Ethereals have are almost identical yet not so it could actually be a tie.
Another factor is if the Empire brings out the big hulking war droids they haveΒ from Empire At War: Forces of Corruption.
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According to the new lore of Xcom 2, the power that the Ethereals have is almost unlimited... I mean with what is revealed in Xcom 2 - there is so much more to it. ^^ I love the lore lol. I think Force and psionics are two completely different things, yes they have similar tenets but whoa, they both draw energy differently and react with things differently. ^^
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Eh, everyone has their opinions.
Either way, in space, the outcome of the battle is unknown to me. On the ground......Aliens would kick the Empire's ass and give it back to them on a silver platter! Of course, if the Zann Consortium got involved somehow.......Empire might stand a chance. Heck, the Aliens would probably be the ONE threat that got the Rebels, The Empire and the Zann Consortium (Zann Consortium is from Empire at War: Forces of Corruption) to work together.
Also, the Flood (from the Halo series) would be another threat for a team-up. *Shudders*.......Let's hope THAT never happens. Could you imagine a Flood-infected Jedi or Sith?
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Oh the Flood is nothing in comparison to something as horrifying as the alien organism from The Thing, while The Flood works on a host with a mental drive - the parasite from The Thing works on a cellular level. Sci Fi is so awesome! XD I don't know of anything worse than The Thing?
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Lots of stuff are actually worse than the Aliens from X-Com and XCOM or, here's the ones I know of.
The Archanids from StarShip Troopers (I have no idea if I spelled that species' name right)
Xenomorphs from Alien vs. Predator
The Thing from John Carpenter's The Thing
It from Stephen King's It
The Flood from the Halo Series
And finally the Zerg from StarCraft 1 and 2
Oh, and the bacteria from the underrated PS2 game "Extermination", forgot the name of the bacteria. Think its name was HO213 or something like that......
Anyway, that's the list I have. Order on them.......well.......the Zerg, Flood, Extermination bacteria, The ThingΒ and the Xenomorphs are pretty high on that list.
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Just imagine, a thingamoprh hahaha. What a combination.
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Or a Flood Infested Ultralisk......or worse yet......the Zerg assimilate the Flood......
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And everyone thought the Empire were the bad guys! This is what they were being oppressive for, they had to build a huge military to defend the galaxy from an alien invasion (well, a different alien invasion)!
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haha I like that.
Meanwhile, off in the distance of space. The Empire is holding firm against an unknown invasion.
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So awesome. *-* I am cashing in with the Aliens and their Ethereals.Β
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Sidious can solo them all by Force Storms or mind screw.
Sidious can consume all of space, alter time, and rip reality itself through the use of Force Storms, burn entire planets with his Force lightning, mind dominate twenty billions, while also draining the a Force out of them, did galactic size battle mediation for straight 23 years and he did it for 24/7 without having a rest during his reign as the Emperor of the Galactic Empire up until to his death above Endor, he had the power to mind dominate hundreds of quadrillions as proven, he can mind dominate an entire galaxy, had became so powerful that he exists as a being of pure dark side energy , had created Force Defense so durable that it can survive attacks that literally consume and destroys everything it touches, as to not let Luke and R2-D2 or Imperial fleets transport to Byss as to not being destroyed by the all-destructive power of the Force Storm and he can also create Force Defense on scales of entire fleets, it took every single goddamn Jedi from the time of their creation up until to 11 A.B.Y. to basically seal his spirit into Chaos (the Star Wars Equivalent of hell) for an eternity and still not killing him, move at high-end relativistic speeds, and when he is a spirit, he moves at MTFL speeds.
This is all the evidence of what all, I said in this post:
comicvine.gamespot.com/star-waβ¦
Don't underestimate Stormtroopers, their armor, and their blasters.
comicvine.gamespot.com/star-waβ¦
Also, Turbolaser firepower ranges from kilotons to teratons, as shown an quad turbolaser cannon shoots 200 Gigatons per shot.
starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Acclamβ¦
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The Ethereals are the killer edge I think. XD
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We haven't even talked about the UBER Ethereals!
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lol I think there's a balance here. The force is what the Star Wars universe has while Psionics is what the alien hierarchy has. I don't know much about the force but, I know that Psionics has one hell of a range.
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The force I believe, you can move almost any object you want. Including but not limited to, choking people Darth Vader style.
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I know that bit but, there's probably more than can be done with it in the expanded universe.
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Yeah...I feel as if there's more to the Force.
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yup. But I know nothing of it so, by default I root for Xcom hahaa.
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I think the main thing the Empire would have to worry about would be Mind Control and sleeper agents ^^:
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I don't know if what the Empire uses for blasters is the equivalent of slightly better laser weapons in XCOM enemy unknown, but if that's the case that's another disadvantage. Plasma -> Laser
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yeah, Mind control can be problematic. XD
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lol it's the original Xcom aliens.
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I know, but it's on principle that if theres a Super Star Destroyer, then there should be a Temple Ship!
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haha I didn't think of it at the time. 
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Empire: Death Star. Fighter ship flies along or inside it to blow it up with a single torpedo
Aliens: Their own death star equivalent is on the other side of a black hole. X-Com flies through a black hole, fighter ship blows up a sun with a single torpedo, escapes back through black hole with command ship after the rest of your fighter wing fly directly into the black hole like idiots.
Admittedly, while the Aliens are probably used to dealing with worse than the Empire by now whenever they start trouble... The Rebel populace of Yavin IV is probably glad they didn't have X-COM on the job instead of Skywalker.
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In fairness, we've never really 'seen' where the Aliens are based from. In the original series, Interceptor hinted that they had a pretty big area of space they controlled, and stated that the colonies was just a fringe group of thier expansion, and nowhere near thier core forces.
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Awesome as this pic is, Empire mops the floor with the aliens. *grin* Only remote issue they might have is with psionics, in which case they just do orbital bombardment. Epic pic!
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The Temple Ship is another issue to worry about. As well as mind controlled storm troopers playing spy or ZOMBIE STORM TROOPERS! >
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Yeah the Psionics is the edge for the alien hierarchy, but that Deathstar would blow Mars... only thing is, is there another force in the universe somewhere?
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What makes me curious, is if the Force can rival the Psionics of a Uber ethereal.
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Mars was only the aliens their mainbase to invade Earth...
The aliens have a pretty decent sized empire themselves... =3
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yeah they do, from playing interceptor it shows just a taste I would think.
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