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NeoMetalSonic360 In reply to 15blue [2022-03-27 08:46:34 +0000 UTC]

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NeoMetalSonic360 In reply to Luigicat11 [2017-05-29 02:58:09 +0000 UTC]

Where did you get the info to reach the conclusion that Chaos Super is stronger than SSJ? I never did research on the subject, so now I kinda wanna know...

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Luigicat11 In reply to NeoMetalSonic360 [2017-05-29 03:47:19 +0000 UTC]

Apparently it's the general consensus that Sonic fans have come to through some source or another.  Apparently this came from a theory on how strong Hyper Shadic is, which got its multiplier from a Death Battle (which is already a warning to take it with a grain of salt, since these are the same guys who calculated Super Goku to be half as fast as base form Goku).  Another person used power scaling to determine that a Chaos Super would actually be around 240,000,000,000,000,000 on the basis that, since Super Sonic can combat multiversal-level beings, he'd be on-par with an SSBlue transformation.  Honestly, with all the conflicting craziness, I think 1,000x just makes things simpler, so I use that...

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NeoMetalSonic360 In reply to Luigicat11 [2017-06-01 03:15:04 +0000 UTC]

Theories on how strong a fan character is? That's pretty much where everything went wrong...

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Luigicat11 In reply to NeoMetalSonic360 [2017-06-01 04:20:25 +0000 UTC]

To be fair, it's not a fan character so much as it is a fusion in a fan animation.

But yeah, if you're going to blame anyone for whatever ridiculousness, that video used Death Battle as a source, so yeah.  All the more reason for the scrutiny.

Honestly, I only use the 1,000x multiplier because (as far as I've seen) that's the general consensus the fandom has come to as far as Chaos Super power multipliers go...

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NeoMetalSonic360 In reply to Luigicat11 [2017-06-01 13:59:48 +0000 UTC]

Well, it doesn't really seem to have much of a solid canon base, but I'll take it I guess.
The only problem I see is that if Super Sonic had that power multiplier, by DBZ standards he would be able to do things he can't, and would've had a much easier time defeating foes with zero effort, and let's not forget he was canonically defeated at least once in the games. So probably the power scaling isn't the same.

Also, Death Battle is awful. They often take into account gameplay mechanics as canon abilities (and disregard a few others so they're kinda contradictory), which is really a stupid thing to do. For instance, Masater Chief who canonically runs at around 60MPH, can withstand quite some heavy damage and can do as much as flipping a heavy car with his strength, taking into account gameplay mechanics, is slow as hell and dies with a few pistol shots, but can somehow flip tanks and ships. And it's even worse with Doomguy who runs at 90mph and can survive falls equivalent to atmospheric entry with no damage at all if you count gameplay mechanics.

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Luigicat11 In reply to NeoMetalSonic360 [2017-06-01 19:40:06 +0000 UTC]

I wasn't saying that Death Battle isn't terrible, I was saying not to shoot the messenger for what the source fucked up.

But yeah, from what I've seen, Super Sonic's canonical appearances are as strong as they need to be for the plot...

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NeoMetalSonic360 In reply to Cura-The-Yoshi [2016-12-07 17:31:09 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

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Cura-The-Yoshi In reply to NeoMetalSonic360 [2016-12-07 19:53:50 +0000 UTC]

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NeoMetalSonic360 In reply to JamaicanHedgie08 [2016-12-07 17:30:52 +0000 UTC]

Thanks fam. this actually gives me some ideas for Rhine...

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JamaicanHedgie08 In reply to NeoMetalSonic360 [2016-12-07 17:32:12 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome. Maybe Chaos Transformations for her?

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