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Nestly: People as a society and for as long as anyone can remember, have eaten both meat and plants.We eat both food groups. If you can't stand the idea of eating 'the poor animals', then that's tough, because people eat meat. And you're a person. So deal with it.
While I'm not a big fan of going vegan as a "fad". I understand that everyone has their reasons, and if done right, it can work very well! But come on, there's no need to look down on people who DO eat meat. (Or eat veggies if you're a meat eater!) As long as you're human, you're a damn omnivore, so stop giving people crap just because they eat something you don't "believe in".
If you agree that we have molars and canines for a reason, and that people should respect that we are all omnivores, (whether they think they are or not) then feel free to add this stamp to your journal if you are subscribed with this code:
While I'll listen to any reasonable opinions, if you want to leave a comment just to insult me, I'll just ignore it, and you'll look like a big jerk. So just don't waste your time.Β
This stamp really isn't meant to be offending, so I'm sorry if it offends you, but that's too damn bad.
This is my first stamp by the way. XD I'm sorry, I just couldn't find a stamp that said this, so I had to make my own. Enjoy!
EDIT: Because I am getting hundreds of comments that are still misunderstanding where I'm coming from: This stamp is to say that you are part of a race that eats all kinds of food. That's how it is, so getting offended by someone's choice of a meal and giving them grief is just silly. I don't care what you eat, but you ARE an omnivore, whether you choose to go one way or the other. So shut up, eat what you will, and respect the fact that people in general will eat all kinds of things.
Thank you for reading.
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eating meat- kills the animals and also needs factories in order to process food which pollutes the environment
eating plants- kills the plants which are essential for the animals to eat to survive and also needs factories in order to process good which pollutes the environment
conclusion- society sucks
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I totally agree!~
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Even if vegans dont eat meat, they are still killing plants and plants are alive too.
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Plants don't feel pain. At least, not the ones we can eat. Otherwise, why would they be made edible? If there are people who choose not to cause harm to animals by eating meat, then what would they do if the plants we eat could feel pain like animals can? Plants are the option for them. Otherwise it wouldn't make sense. If every living thing could feel pain, then what would vegans and vegetarians even do? If people choose not to eat meat because they don't want animals to suffer, and they eat vegetables and other things instead, they're not doing anything wrong. They're not really causing pain to anything. There should be less demand for meat; it's incredibly overrated. Yes, we may be omnivores, but if people can survive on eating plants alone then what's the big problem with that? We can get all the nutrients we need without eating animal flesh. It's really not a big deal. It's just a person's individual lifestyle choice. Can we not just be accepting?
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But plants also have the right to live also, whether they feel pain or not.
When animals are killed, it's quick and painless.
Doesn't matter if they can feel it or not, you are still killing another organism.
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Yes it does matter.. a plant doesn't have the same conscencous as an animal, plants can't escape from danger or react to pain because they can't feel it, so it's not wrong of people to consume them. Plants don't suffer the same way animals do. You're not gonna have someone getting upset because they saw a carrot being chopped up on a cooking show, or if they saw a person pulling up weeds in the garden.
And so now I'll say to you that most animals are not treated well, both before and while they are killed for food. Some places and people do have a more ethical approach to it, but most of the time, if you're talking about the big meat product industry, animals are treated like they're not even alive, like they don't even have feelings. It's like people just ignore it for the sake of money. Like they don't even care. How can you excuse the killing (and torture, in most cases) of animals for food, yet say that consuming plants is "killing another organism" like that's a big deal? Sorry but that doesn't make sense to me. You're okay with ignoring the fact that animals who can feel things, both physical and emotional, are being mistreated and slaughtered for food, but you seem to have a problem with people consuming plants, when they cannot feel pain, or when society doesn't seem to think that a plant can be mistreated?
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I'm not ignoring anything. I'm just saying that no matter whether they can feel it or not, something is STILL being killed. If I were to go uproot a plant just because I feel like it, does it make it okay just because the plant doesn't feel it??? No, it doesn't.
And I'm not excusing anything. Not ALL slaughter houses abuse and mistreat their animalsΒ
It's just that people only focus on the bad ones and automatically assume that all slaughter houses are like that. My AG teacher even showed us a video about how animals are slaughtered and she was visibly ticked off about it, and she said it's because people focus ONLY on facilities like this. She's really passionate about agriculture.
Plants produce oxygen , prevent erosion, provide habitat and food for other animals, so it's still wrong to kill them because even though they have no sign of a conscioud, they still play an important role on the planet.
That's there are JUSTIFICATIONS for some things to be considered whether or not it's wrong or right.
It's been said that insects don't have pain nerves, but does that mean I can just go out and kill a spider just because I feel like it??? No.
Plants are TRYING to survive just like animals are, it's just that animals have a more evident way of showing it.
( I'm just going to add this in, but I'm not taking the side of slaughter houses,or farmers that do abuse or mistreat their animals. I'm just saying that not all are like that.
And you can't expect people who work in this facility to show some kind of affection or attachment to the animals, because all they're concerned with is feeding their families.)
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Plants do not have emotions, therefore they don't feel pain. If your so concerned, get the fuck outta your house because no doubt your house has wood and that came from a living tree that was trying to survive and live. Don't walk on grass, because you just hurt that grass, don't go into any buildings because again, probably has wood within it, Don't use paper, don't use anything that has come from a plant.
You act as if Vegan's go out there and go eat the fucking trees when they don't and its both Meat eaters and Vegans etc who cut down the trees and use stuff coming from plants. So stop being a hypocrite. Earth does not need veggies and fruits to survive and run, it only needs tree and other plants we don't eat.Β Β
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You are using the same argument that the other person is using, saying that because plants don't have emotions, it's ok to kill them.
Bugs are said to not feel pain, so does that mean I can just go outside and trample every millipede, centipede, ant, caterpillar, etc, just because I want to??? No, it doesn't.
My point is, there are justifications for everything.
You using the argument about my house coming from wood, proves this. If I don't cut down trees to build shelter, then I'll die.
It also proves how quick you are to anger, and insult someone.
Please, if I'm wrong about something correct me on it. You don't have to curse me out or insult me about it.
It just shows how immature you are.
Just because there are plants that we DON'T eat, doesn't mean that killing them won't effect everything else. Me chopping down every milkweed plant in my yard, would negatively affect the monarch butterflies, and pollinators that are present in the area. Me randomly pulling weeds negatively affects any animals that rely on that particular plant as a food source.
Cutting down forests for agriculture, destroy habitats for other animals. Etc
How am I being a hypocrite exactly???
It's those who claim that it's wrong to only eat animals, are the hypocritical ones. Because regardless, a life is still being taken. When you use soap, when you pull weeds, when you boil water, when you are walking in grass, etc. And it's all for survival, not for our enjoyment.
Everything is based around survival.
You either didn't bother to read my original comment at all, or you just took everything out of context and was so eager to reply in a rude and insulting manner, which is a shame.
Can't even have a simple debate/difference of opinion without someone getting butthurt and insulting others. Smh
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Your saying that "Vegans" are hurting plants, yet everyone is hurting trees by hurting them down? It's the exact same as vegans eating plants then using wood to survive. Humans are biologically herbivores (With a omnivore diet due to how to evolved and went up the food chain) due to recent studies so people are allowed to eat plants, just as meat eaters choose to be omnivores and eat meat.
I didn't insult you all I said was fucking, I wrote that at 1am so swearing is typically normal for me, overall just because I swore doesn't mean I'm butthurt OR insulting you. I was stating my opinion because your acting as if people can't eat what they wanna eat.
If people wanna eat animals, go for it, people wanna eat plants, go for it. Let people eat whatever they want without a smart ass comment to it like "Oh your eating plants, they matter too"
And that's what makes you a hypocrite, you say "Plants matter" yet your house is most likely made of wood, and don't need wood or you'll die there's plenty of things you can use in today's world instead of wood like tents, clay buildings and so forth and there's plenty of people who don't live in houses who survive so I don't see how youd die LMAO
And no I did read it, and I didn't reply rudely I replied how I felt like typing, I am a very passive aggressive person Withoit realizing it so I apologize if I "Offended" you by saying "Fucking" because that's such a hurtful thing and I deeply apologize.
Of course life is still being taken, but half the stuff we take really doesn't matter, weeds are weeds, trees are tress, we use them. Animals are animals, people choose to eat them. So? People choose to eat plants. So?
Let people eat what they want.
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.......MY WHOLE ARGUMENT WAS TARGETED TOWARDS THOSE WHO VIEW EATING ANIMALS AS WRONG AND EVIL.
You're just backing up my point.
If you eat plants go for it.
If you eat meat, go for it.
My only issue is when people try to demonize others who eat meat as part of their diet, hence why I said what I said to begin with.
Pain doesn't matter.
A life taken is a life taken.
In order to eat, and survive, we must kill. So eat what you want.
And yes, I would die without shelter. Many homeless people, even tho they don't have a house to call their own, they all have some sort of building, fort, etc to help protect themselves from the elements.
And my bad for assuming you were angry since in other debates I am a part of, that's usually what happens and I get insulted.
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Yeah, I never said you were wrong, as a vegan for most of my life until recently, I don't think meat eaters are bad, all id prefer is that animals were killed in a more humane way instead of slaughter houses etc since most tend to be very abusive etc and an animal should die peacefully if we're able to and our species is smart enough to come up with ways to do so. I only commented to the plant part since it seemed you were being hypocritical or kinda saying vegans are bad - which I see now isn't the case.
I don't care what people eat as long as it isn't cannibalsm and your not eating cats and dogs and other pets then I don't care.
And no I wasn't angry, I might've been passive aggressive since I tend to type that way in debates etc but I hope I didn't come off as really rude lmao! And yeah I know how it feels. It's worse on instagram when debating with people.
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Okay, I'm sorry for making assumptions about you; that was a bit rude of me. And you do make some good points, but my point is that with how society views things, killing a plant for food or whatever isn't wrong, but there are people who don't tolerate it happening to an animal. I get your points though, and I understand where you're coming from, but people need to survive somehow, and if they choose not to eat meat or animal products then plants and veggies are what they have, and even if they are still killing something, there's not really much anyone can do about it. Killing animals is seen as a much more serious thing because, from our point of view, they can really feel the pain and suffering they go through, and we can see the fear in their eyes when they're being mistreated or abused. Yes, plants are still important to the environment, but there was a time when people who weren't as wealthy as others and they had to grow and eat their own food, yet the natural environment around them was fine, and wouldn't have really suffered that much, since they were just using the soil to grow their plants and crops. But people would damage the environment by building farms and using quite damaging equipment so they could keep and use animals as food. I'm not dismissing your arguments, but even though using plants might be damaging in some ways, using animals is a lot more damaging in a lot more ways. It damages the earth a lot more than using plants does, because we can regrow new plants and that keeps the ecosystem going. But using animals just causes way more environmental damage than it should. I don't even know where to start with that.
So, yes using plants is still killing something that is part of the natural environment, but it's less damaging in the long run compared to using animals for food and whatnot.
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Haha finally!
Sick of stupid vegans crying for "Oh no! The poor animals... Don't eat them!"
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Funny thing is that most folks that go vegan or vegetarian end up going back to being an omnivore. A large number of them cheat too.
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Yeah it's a pretty hard thing to maintain. Lot of discipline.Β
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I do eat meat, because I can't be without it, but I still understand that it's serious moral flaw...
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I eat meat, and my best friend is vegetarian.
Ironic, huh?
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Humans are omnivores, but we don't have to be.Β
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This is such a reasonable and nice comment.
Personally I'm not vegan, but I've tried to go veg before I became really anaemic and kept fainting because of it and such so I had to stop. Once I get supplements and such, and have access to proper foods, I'm gonna go for it again!
Anyways, I just really appreciate this comment as a whole and that you're taking other people's opinions into account while making your point and I agree fully with what you say!
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Omnomnomivore
yeah, sounds about right
i hope this doesn't sound mean that was not my intention!!
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Ty for this ! But I eat more meat than anything, it's really delicious especially with sugar-free ketchup. For fruits and vegetables, well I eat like 1 fruit when I want to. I can't live without meat XD I like it more than anything. We are omnivores, whenever you like it or not. We've got premolars, molars, incisors and canine, they are made to eat meat, fish, vegetables, well anything that can be eaten.( sorry for my english, I'm french)
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i don't care what i am.. i just eat.
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best way to be
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Actually, humans ARE herbivores. From our teeth, jaw structure, inability to swallow large chunks, weak enzymes, long, lumpy walled intestines, no prey drive, and lack of claws. Humans, whether you believe we were created or evolved, are not meant to dine on animal products as studies continuously show us.
As for human society, it has always been the rich who have dined on flesh as a status while the poor only ate plants because plants are easier to grow and eat then to grow a bunch of crops, feed it to an animal, and get less "food." Gladiators, samurai, and ninjas actually were primarily plant-based/vegetarians. And many famous people like Leonardo da Vinci, Plato, Leo Tolsoy, Einstein, George Bernard Shaw were all either fully plant-based or vegetarians.
Studies on ancient man has shown that they were vegetarians as well and meat eaten was only because of extreme need. But, due to refrigeration, flesh and other animal products are not rotting away as fast. still is, but a slower rate. This has allowed almost anyone to eat an "omnivore" diet. But, it has caused harm to people's health, the planet, and of course the animals. And sadly due to corruption and lies pushed by the industries who profit off of animal products, people actually believe they "need" animal products when the complete opposite is true.
Thankfully, as more and more people realize just how bad animal products are for their health, the planet, and of course the animals, more and more people are switching to a plant-based diet or veganism altogether. Some of the world's best athletes are now vegans and their performance has increased.
So, the entire "humans are omnivores" really is a fabrication created by an industry that hopes to profit off of animal products. It's the SAME as what tobacco companies did for so long before everyone finally believed what the scientists were saying about cancer. And now studies are showing how terrible animal products are, so we are going through that same cycle of some people realizing it, but others are still following lies despite the mounting evidence. Scientists do predict that the human population will be vegan (at least MOST of it) by 2050 due to all the studies and just how bad animal products really are.
In October I have a journal that's scheduled to post that goes into more detail on this subject with lots of links to studies, experts, etc. A few other journals are posting before then, but I recommend checking it out when it does post. I believe you'll enjoy it and the studies will be quite eye opening.
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We didn't kill animals with our teeth, that's why they aren't the same as other omnivores or even carnivores. If we were never meant to eat meat then our bodies would not be able to digest it. In the past, slaves and poor people would actually be the ones eating lobsters while now, only the rich eat them.
I'm not saying only meat is super healthy and never bad, but sometimes animals and how they eat the same materials differ due to the structure of the animal - and if we weren't meant to eat meat, then we wouldn't be able to digest it.
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Eating meat is okay.
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Only if you're a carnivore or omnivore. But, humans being herbivores it is not.
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Humans are not herbivores, nor will they ever be. Shoving your "sources" down my throat does not change the objective conclusion scientists have repeatedly made.
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Humans actually are not meant to consume animal flesh, just as we are not meant to consume dairy or eggs, which I discuss further in other journals. Meat is not meant for humans for several reasons: The first being that humans simply are not physically designed to consume flesh, secondly because of the immense cruelty involved, and thirdly the destruction of the planet. In this journal I will concentrate on just the meat industry and how it abuses animals and the harm meat does to our bodies. Other journals will cover the environmental issues of animal agriculture, the dairy industry, and the egg industry.
Humans are not designed to eat flesh or any animal products. Our physical built is proof of this from our short, blunt teeth, circular moving jaws, inability to swallow large chunks, weak liver secretions, long, lumpy walled intestines, lack of claws, and no prey drive. Humans are incapable of hunting prey without using tools of some short. Humans also lack the desire to hunt for prey. Children are taught to see animals as food, but even this takes time. Children cry when they learn animals are killed, and rather not eat them. If a child is placed in a room with a rabbit and apple the child will always play with the rabbit and eat the apple, never the other way around. And when children are conditioned to view animals as a food source, this brings about specieism. Specieism is when one species, such as dogs, are viewed as "friends" while other species, such as pigs, are viewed as "food." Children grow up loving dogs and many other species, but for those few select species will see them as "food," but even then most of the time know it's wrong to harm them. Depending on the culture a child is raised in will change the animals they are taught to love and those they are told to hate. Which, if eating animals was natural for humans wouldn't lead to these extreme differences. Humans would have natural prey animals that would be universal for all humans instinctively. Just as every house cat knows that the scent of a mouse, rabbit, or bird is prey, but when smelling a canine, horse, or elephant know that that is not something to seek after. Not even our ancestors ate meat or if they did it was very little.
The argument that human canines are meant to tear flesh is utterly ridiculous. Human teeth in comparison to actual carnivores such as lion teeth, shark teeth, and leopard seal teeth, which are all true carnivores. Omnivorous animals have teeth such asΒ bear teeth, Β canine teeth, Β chimpanzee teeth. While herbivorous animals have teeth such as horse teeth, Β Β orangutan teeth, and pacu fish teeth. Human teeth are closest to herbivorous animals. Canines are found in almost all animal species who possess teeth, even bovines. And some herbivorous species possess very massive canines such asΒ gorillas, fanged deer, andΒ hippos. Nothing about human mouths is meant for meat eating.
The long, lumpy walled intestines of humans is similar to other herbivores, allowing vegetation to slowly be digested and nutrients absorbed. While carnivores and omnivores have smooth walled, and short intestines to get rotten flesh out quickly before it can begin to rot. Human livers secret weak enzymes like other herbivores since breaking down vegetation is easier than meat. Carnivores, such as cats, secrete such powerful enzymes that if they do not eat after a period of time their enzymes will begin to break down their own organs. Humans are best built for picking plants and consuming them, rather than any animal products.
To top this, science continues to show us how animal products cause several severe illnesses in humans from cardiovascular disease, various cancers, diabetes, and many other illnesses, as well as bacteria causes diseases from consuming infected flesh. Meat consumption causes numerous illnesses. Animal products have been linked to 70% of illnesses in humans. The causes of the illnesses is from the human bodies inability to properly process animal proteins, the high hormone levels, and other body chemicals found solely in flesh.Β The bacteria caused diseases are also very high. The risk of developing cancer from meat consumption is almost a guaranteed promise. Dr. Greger's presentation gives much more information on the reasons why animal products harm our bodies like this.
Humans are not made to consume meat and it harms our bodies, as well as the planet. Now, the real victims of the meat industry are the animals being eaten. Bovines, chickens, pigs, turkeys, geese, ducks, dogs, cats, rabbits, sheep, goats, fish, turtles, frogs, lobsters, crabs, octopuses, dolphins, whales,Β horses, and deer are the most common species consumed by humans, but almost every animal species is at risk.
Animals are raised on factory farms, which lock them away in small pens, often chained. They are unable to turn around, living on metal grates and their own feces. Pigs are especially subjected to the life of gestation crates, where they will live for up to 6 years being constantly bred until they can't produce anymore. While pigs can live to be up to 15 years old, they are sent to slaughter at 6 months to 6 years of age. Females are repeatedly artificially inseminated (raped) to keep them breeding, but are unable to properly care for their piglets, who most die before being old enough to ship off to slaughter. Pigs are beaten, electrocuted, shouted at, stabbed, anally and vaginally sodomized, spray painted, denied the outdoors, and injuries left untreated. Sows are bred so much and receive no exercise that their organs will even begin to be pushed out of their anus.
While dairy cows are all sent to slaughter once they are not producing enough milk, bovines raised exclusively for their flesh don't receive better treatment. Cattle are kept in small pens, packed tightly together. Cows are raped often to keep them breeding, and all are killed at 2-3 years of age. They are fed a mixture of grains, ground up fish, and even other cows. Cattle live in their own waste, and even on large ranches the cattle are sent off to slaughter. Raising cattle also takes up much of the land and destroys the land for wildlife.
Chickens, turkeys, ducks, and geese are raised in small cages or kept in barns so tightly packed they can barely move. Broiler chickens grow so quickly that at 42 days old they can't even walk. That's the same as a child weighing over 400 pounds. Here is a comparison photo. They are then killed at only a few weeks old.
Animals are tightly packed into trailers and shipped off to slaughter. They are so tightly crammed inside that animals are unable to move, they are on top of each other, and many don't make it to their destination. They can be inside these trailers for a few days even, suffering through temperatures over 100 degrees, to well below freezing, receiving no food, water, or loving touches. Some animals are shipped across oceans on ships, being packed together, cruelly hoisted by their necks off the ship, and left to drown when ships collapse-side.
At the slaughterhouse the animals smell the blood and death, hear the screams of those before them, and fear the horror of the place. They are electrocuted and beaten off of the trucks, and those unable to stand are dragged off by bobcat vehicles, forklifts, and other such equipment. The animals are forced down tight walkways and into a small room where they watch each other be killed, or forced one by one into a machine that flips them over, pins down their neck, and allows a worker to cut their neck open. Once they have their necks cut, they are hung upside down by a chain tied around a back ankle and hoisted up. Some slaughterhouses use a bolt gun before cutting the animals' necks. The bolt gun shoots a metal bolt into the animal's head when held against it. The gun is supposed to stun the animal, rendering them unconscious, but it is not always the case. Some animals need to have it done repeatedly, some are rendered unable to move while still conscious, and in halal and kosher slaughter they are never stunned.
The animals always struggle to live, trying to flee, trying to hide, and sometimes are just too terrified to move. Just like humans, animals are able to cry tears, and it is often they do so. As the bleeding animals are taken through the slaughterhouse, suffocating as they bleed out, many are still alive and conscious. They are then dumped in boiling water, the live ones screaming from the searing, agonizing pain. If they survive that, they are then gutted and have their legs removed. The head is cut off, they are skinned, and their bodies sent off to have more done to them in preparation to be sold. The slaughterhouse is always filled with the hellish screams of the dying, their fear, and the horrendous pain they suffer as they are killed and beaten. "Humane" slaughter simply doesn't exist for there is NO humane way to kill someone who doesn't want to die. Animals can't be euthanized for that leaves the euthanasia chemicals inside of their flesh, and as discussed in my journal on hunting, shooting in the head doesn't always guarantee an instant death, or even death. To add to this, whenever someone dies feces, urine, and blood is released throughout the body, so all flesh consumed is filled with these as well.
The corpses are sent off to be changed even more so that consumers won't associate the packages of meat bought with the killed animals. Carbon monoxide is pumped onto flesh to turn it bright red when in reality dead flesh is a dark, brownish color which starts to turn green in a couple of days. Liquids are added to chicken bodies to make them appear larger, and the corpses are purposely cut to not resemble bodies.
Fish are sentient and feel pain. They are caught by the billions every year, emptying the oceans, and killing millions of other sea life that gets caught in the nets, and starving from their prey being taken away. Scientists predict that in the year 2048 all ocean life will be gone. Most fish are fed to livestock, oddly enough, and even more are accidental catches, so are dumped back into the ocean often dead. Even fish caught with hooks don't fair better for they feel the pain in their mouth similar to how a human would if they had a hook put through it.
In some countries domesticated cats and dogs are consumed. They are either bred on farms, but usually are stolen off the streets or from people's back yards. In China, it is believed that the more a dog and cat are tortured the "better" their flesh will taste. They are boiled alive, burned with torches, beaten, hung to death, and skinned alive. The Yulin Dog Meat Festival is held once a year in China where thousands of dogs are brutally killed in a matter of days. Dogs and cats have their paws tied together, often behind their backs, stuffed into tiny cages, and treated worse than trash. These animals are also eaten in the United States and other countries.
To add to this the meat industry uses up so many resources and so much money trying to lie about their cruel product that government bailouts are needed to keep them running. The chicken industry also needs bailouts. And here.
To top this all off, non-human animals are sentient, intelligent, feel pain such as we do, and simply want to be loved.Β Animals feel and it doesn't take studies to see that in action. Animals befriend each other regardless of species as we see here, they protect and love their offspring, they solve puzzles, communicate in their own languages, and adapt to new challenges. Animals will even sacrifice themselves to save their young, use sex for pleasure as well as breeding, and even learn the routines of humans to better steal from trash cans. To deny non-human animals can think is simply foolish. Humans are animals after all, so why would other animals not also think, love, and suffer? Simply, animals feel and think, period.
While eating animals may have been a necessity in extreme survival situations, in today's time with modern technology it is not. The amount of meat eaten in a day by the average person is the same amount of meat eaten in several months' time by those hundreds of years ago. Meat has always been the food of the rich, with peasants relying only on crops for survival. Gladiators were vegetarians, and Japan actually never ate red meat, or really any meat, until after white men begun to trade. Yes, ninjas and samurais were vegetarians. Only with modern refrigeration has consuming animal products become so commonplace.
In fact, some of the most brilliant minds were vegans and vegetarians such as Leonardo Da Vinci, Galileo, Leo Tolstoy, Albert Einstein, Charles Darwin, Thomas Edison, Nikola Tesla, Isaac Newton, Benjamin Franklin, Confucius, Van Gogh, George Berndard Shaw, Voltaire, Pascal, and many, many others. Here are some vegan celebrities as well as some vegan athletes. Here is also vegan bodybuilder Frank Medrano showing how you don't need animal products to be strong and fit.
If you can live a healthy lifestyle without harming anyone and still eat delicious food, why wouldn't you? And, no religion doesn't support eating animals, either. And as for Lab Grown Meat see here.
Full journal with links to studies, sources, etc.:
The Reality of MeatMeat: The flesh of a person's body.Β The parts of an animal's body, primarily muscle, that is often consumed for food. The food source for omnivorous and carnivorous species throughout the globe. But is it actually for humans?
The short answer to that is "no." Humans actually are not meant to consume animal flesh, just as we are not meant to consume dairy or eggs, which I discuss further in other journals. Meat is not meant for humans for several reasons: The first being that humans simply are not physically designed to consume flesh, secondly because of the immense cruelty involved, and thirdly the destruction of the planet. In this journal I will concentrate on just the meat industry and how it abuses animals and the harm meat does to our bodies. Other journals will cover the environmental issues of animal agriculture,
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Animal cruelty should not be understated. It is a dirty
and cruel business without a doubt. However the solution
is to provide decent conditions of life, and more "humane"
or even painless forms of executions, not stopping to
eat meat altogether. I understand your noble concern, but
I feel there are some wrong statements in your argumentation.
Firstly, animals are spared or viewed as "friends" on the
basis of their use to humans. Nothing else.
Secondly, we do not share Neanderthal DNA contrary to
what is claimed by the Neanderthal Genome Project.
Their exclusively herbivorous diet might explain why
they went extinct in an ice-age environment.
Thirdly, if apes are omnivores, and humans descent from
apes, then humans are omnivores. The canines we have,
comes from them, for the same diet purposes.
Fourthly, omnivores need long intestines, otherwise
they would be incapable of digesting vegetables and
wouldn't be omnivore. You try to confuse pure carnivores
with omnivores to make your point, which is fallacious.
Fifthly, there is not a universal human metabolism
where all the effects of meat would be the same.
Some humans are lactose-intolerant, while others are
lactose-tolerant. Excess is always bad, in all regards,
including vegetables. Even the most vital of elements
to our body like water, can lead to water poisoning:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_inβ¦
Seeing the conditions in which white people lived for
thousands of years, (the ice age), it is only ironic
that the reason why you are capable of complaining
today about meat is because your ancestors ate meat
to survive, and eventually gave birth to you.
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One look at your profile is enough to see that all your points are garbage.
It doesn't matter what our ancestors did to get us to this point.
The past doesn't need to define us.
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it does define us though? lol
that's the whole point of biology
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Biology shapes our bodies. It doesn't define who we are as people.
I thought that was implied with what I said though.
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it's not that simple.
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My point was just that what our ancestors did doesn't have to be a part of who we are.
I wasn't talking about biology at all.
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There is NO "humane" way to kill someone who doesn't want to die. Humane slaughter is a myth created by animal agriculture to keep people buying their products. Humans are natural herbivores and do not need to consume animal products, and animal agriculture is destroying the planet. Specieism is the act of teaching people that one species is "good" and another should be killed. It's different for all cultures, and all of it is wrong.
IF macro evolution was true, we WOULD share DNA with early humans. We even share 80% of our DNA with orangutans. But, if we were created by God, we still are natural herbivores. Nothing about the human body is omnivorous.
Orangutans and gorillas are herbivores, as well as many species of monkeys. Again, the human body is STILL herbivorous despite if there were any evolution that took place.
Omnivores have SHORT intestines. Look at true omnivores such as canines and bears. They have very short intestines. Not to mention powerful enzymes, hinged jaws, a prey drive, etc. Humans lack all of that.
Technically, ALL humans are lactose intolerant. Some people simply react strongly faster to consuming dairy than others, but it makes us ALL sick. And don't use wikipedia as a source.
The amount of chicken a person eats in one day today is the amount they ate in an entire year in the 1920s. The poor have ALWAYS eaten plant-based diets while the rich ate animal products because of how hard it is to sustain animals for food sources only.
"Humans actually are not meant to consume animal flesh, just as we are not meant to consume dairy or eggs, which I discuss further in other journals. Meat is not meant for humans for several reasons: The first being that humans simply are not physically designed to consume flesh, secondly because of the immense cruelty involved, and thirdly the destruction of the planet. In this journal I will concentrate on just the meat industry and how it abuses animals and the harm meat does to our bodies. Other journals will cover the environmental issues of animal agriculture, the dairy industry, and the egg industry.
Humans are not designed to eat flesh or any animal products. Our physical built is proof of this from our short, blunt teeth, circular moving jaws, inability to swallow large chunks, weak liver secretions, long, lumpy walled intestines, lack of claws, and no prey drive. Humans are incapable of hunting prey without using tools of some short. Humans also lack the desire to hunt for prey. Children are taught to see animals as food, but even this takes time. Children cry when they learn animals are killed, and rather not eat them. If a child is placed in a room with a rabbit and apple the child will always play with the rabbit and eat the apple, never the other way around. And when children are conditioned to view animals as a food source, this brings about specieism. Specieism is when one species, such as dogs, are viewed as "friends" while other species, such as pigs, are viewed as "food." Children grow up loving dogs and many other species, but for those few select species will see them as "food," but even then most of the time know it's wrong to harm them. Depending on the culture a child is raised in will change the animals they are taught to love and those they are told to hate. Which, if eating animals was natural for humans wouldn't lead to these extreme differences. Humans would have natural prey animals that would be universal for all humans instinctively. Just as every house cat knows that the scent of a mouse, rabbit, or bird is prey, but when smelling a canine, horse, or elephant know that that is not something to seek after. Not even our ancestors ate meat or if they did it was very little.
The argument that human canines are meant to tear flesh is utterly ridiculous. Human teeth in comparison to actual carnivores such as lion teeth, shark teeth, and leopard seal teeth, which are all true carnivores. Omnivorous animals have teeth such asΒ bear teeth, Β canine teeth, Β chimpanzee teeth. While herbivorous animals have teeth such as horse teeth, Β Β orangutan teeth, and pacu fish teeth. Human teeth are closest to herbivorous animals. Canines are found in almost all animal species who possess teeth, even bovines. And some herbivorous species possess very massive canines such asΒ gorillas, fanged deer, andΒ hippos. Nothing about human mouths is meant for meat eating.
The long, lumpy walled intestines of humans is similar to other herbivores, allowing vegetation to slowly be digested and nutrients absorbed. While carnivores and omnivores have smooth walled, and short intestines to get rotten flesh out quickly before it can begin to rot. Human livers secret weak enzymes like other herbivores since breaking down vegetation is easier than meat. Carnivores, such as cats, secrete such powerful enzymes that if they do not eat after a period of time their enzymes will begin to break down their own organs. Humans are best built for picking plants and consuming them, rather than any animal products.
To top this, science continues to show us how animal products cause several severe illnesses in humans from cardiovascular disease, various cancers, diabetes, and many other illnesses, as well as bacteria causes diseases from consuming infected flesh. Meat consumption causes numerous illnesses. Animal products have been linked to 70% of illnesses in humans. The causes of the illnesses is from the human bodies inability to properly process animal proteins, the high hormone levels, and other body chemicals found solely in flesh.Β The bacteria caused diseases are also very high. The risk of developing cancer from meat consumption is almost a guaranteed promise. Dr. Greger's presentation gives much more information on the reasons why animal products harm our bodies like this.
Humans are not made to consume meat and it harms our bodies, as well as the planet. Now, the real victims of the meat industry are the animals being eaten. Bovines, chickens, pigs, turkeys, geese, ducks, dogs, cats, rabbits, sheep, goats, fish, turtles, frogs, lobsters, crabs, octopuses, dolphins, whales,Β horses, and deer are the most common species consumed by humans, but almost every animal species is at risk.
Animals are raised on factory farms, which lock them away in small pens, often chained. They are unable to turn around, living on metal grates and their own feces. Pigs are especially subjected to the life of gestation crates, where they will live for up to 6 years being constantly bred until they can't produce anymore. While pigs can live to be up to 15 years old, they are sent to slaughter at 6 months to 6 years of age. Females are repeatedly artificially inseminated (raped) to keep them breeding, but are unable to properly care for their piglets, who most die before being old enough to ship off to slaughter. Pigs are beaten, electrocuted, shouted at, stabbed, anally and vaginally sodomized, spray painted, denied the outdoors, and injuries left untreated. Sows are bred so much and receive no exercise that their organs will even begin to be pushed out of their anus.
While dairy cows are all sent to slaughter once they are not producing enough milk, bovines raised exclusively for their flesh don't receive better treatment. Cattle are kept in small pens, packed tightly together. Cows are raped often to keep them breeding, and all are killed at 2-3 years of age. They are fed a mixture of grains, ground up fish, and even other cows. Cattle live in their own waste, and even on large ranches the cattle are sent off to slaughter. Raising cattle also takes up much of the land and destroys the land for wildlife.
Chickens, turkeys, ducks, and geese are raised in small cages or kept in barns so tightly packed they can barely move. Broiler chickens grow so quickly that at 42 days old they can't even walk. That's the same as a child weighing over 400 pounds. Here is a comparison photo. They are then killed at only a few weeks old.
Animals are tightly packed into trailers and shipped off to slaughter. They are so tightly crammed inside that animals are unable to move, they are on top of each other, and many don't make it to their destination. They can be inside these trailers for a few days even, suffering through temperatures over 100 degrees, to well below freezing, receiving no food, water, or loving touches. Some animals are shipped across oceans on ships, being packed together, cruelly hoisted by their necks off the ship, and left to drown when ships collapse-side.
At the slaughterhouse the animals smell the blood and death, hear the screams of those before them, and fear the horror of the place. They are electrocuted and beaten off of the trucks, and those unable to stand are dragged off by bobcat vehicles, forklifts, and other such equipment. The animals are forced down tight walkways and into a small room where they watch each other be killed, or forced one by one into a machine that flips them over, pins down their neck, and allows a worker to cut their neck open. Once they have their necks cut, they are hung upside down by a chain tied around a back ankle and hoisted up. Some slaughterhouses use a bolt gun before cutting the animals' necks. The bolt gun shoots a metal bolt into the animal's head when held against it. The gun is supposed to stun the animal, rendering them unconscious, but it is not always the case. Some animals need to have it done repeatedly, some are rendered unable to move while still conscious, and in halal and kosher slaughter they are never stunned.
The animals always struggle to live, trying to flee, trying to hide, and sometimes are just too terrified to move. Just like humans, animals are able to cry tears, and it is often they do so. As the bleeding animals are taken through the slaughterhouse, suffocating as they bleed out, many are still alive and conscious. They are then dumped in boiling water, the live ones screaming from the searing, agonizing pain. If they survive that, they are then gutted and have their legs removed. The head is cut off, they are skinned, and their bodies sent off to have more done to them in preparation to be sold. The slaughterhouse is always filled with the hellish screams of the dying, their fear, and the horrendous pain they suffer as they are killed and beaten. "Humane" slaughter simply doesn't exist for there is NO humane way to kill someone who doesn't want to die. Animals can't be euthanized for that leaves the euthanasia chemicals inside of their flesh, and as discussed in my journal on hunting, shooting in the head doesn't always guarantee an instant death, or even death. To add to this, whenever someone dies feces, urine, and blood is released throughout the body, so all flesh consumed is filled with these as well.
The corpses are sent off to be changed even more so that consumers won't associate the packages of meat bought with the killed animals. Carbon monoxide is pumped onto flesh to turn it bright red when in reality dead flesh is a dark, brownish color which starts to turn green in a couple of days. Liquids are added to chicken bodies to make them appear larger, and the corpses are purposely cut to not resemble bodies.
Fish are sentient and feel pain. They are caught by the billions every year, emptying the oceans, and killing millions of other sea life that gets caught in the nets, and starving from their prey being taken away. Scientists predict that in the year 2048 all ocean life will be gone. Most fish are fed to livestock, oddly enough, and even more are accidental catches, so are dumped back into the ocean often dead. Even fish caught with hooks don't fair better for they feel the pain in their mouth similar to how a human would if they had a hook put through it.
In some countries domesticated cats and dogs are consumed. They are either bred on farms, but usually are stolen off the streets or from people's back yards. In China, it is believed that the more a dog and cat are tortured the "better" their flesh will taste. They are boiled alive, burned with torches, beaten, hung to death, and skinned alive. The Yulin Dog Meat Festival is held once a year in China where thousands of dogs are brutally killed in a matter of days. Dogs and cats have their paws tied together, often behind their backs, stuffed into tiny cages, and treated worse than trash. These animals are also eaten in the United States and other countries.
To add to this the meat industry uses up so many resources and so much money trying to lie about their cruel product that government bailouts are needed to keep them running. The chicken industry also needs bailouts. And here.
To top this all off, non-human animals are sentient, intelligent, feel pain such as we do, and simply want to be loved.Β Animals feel and it doesn't take studies to see that in action. Animals befriend each other regardless of species as we see here, they protect and love their offspring, they solve puzzles, communicate in their own languages, and adapt to new challenges. Animals will even sacrifice themselves to save their young, use sex for pleasure as well as breeding, and even learn the routines of humans to better steal from trash cans. To deny non-human animals can think is simply foolish. Humans are animals after all, so why would other animals not also think, love, and suffer? Simply, animals feel and think, period.
While eating animals may have been a necessity in extreme survival situations, in today's time with modern technology it is not. The amount of meat eaten in a day by the average person is the same amount of meat eaten in several months' time by those hundreds of years ago. Meat has always been the food of the rich, with peasants relying only on crops for survival. Gladiators were vegetarians, and Japan actually never ate red meat, or really any meat, until after white men begun to trade. Yes, ninjas and samurais were vegetarians. Only with modern refrigeration has consuming animal products become so commonplace.
In fact, some of the most brilliant minds were vegans and vegetarians such as Leonardo Da Vinci, Galileo, Leo Tolstoy, Albert Einstein, Charles Darwin, Thomas Edison, Nikola Tesla, Isaac Newton, Benjamin Franklin, Confucius, Van Gogh, George Berndard Shaw, Voltaire, Pascal, and many, many others. Here are some vegan celebrities as well as some vegan athletes. Here is also vegan bodybuilder Frank Medrano showing how you don't need animal products to be strong and fit.
If you can live a healthy lifestyle without harming anyone and still eat delicious food, why wouldn't you? And, no religion doesn't support eating animals, either. And as for Lab Grown Meat see here. "
Read full journal here with links:
The Reality of MeatMeat: The flesh of a person's body.Β The parts of an animal's body, primarily muscle, that is often consumed for food. The food source for omnivorous and carnivorous species throughout the globe. But is it actually for humans?
The short answer to that is "no." Humans actually are not meant to consume animal flesh, just as we are not meant to consume dairy or eggs, which I discuss further in other journals. Meat is not meant for humans for several reasons: The first being that humans simply are not physically designed to consume flesh, secondly because of the immense cruelty involved, and thirdly the destruction of the planet. In this journal I will concentrate on just the meat industry and how it abuses animals and the harm meat does to our bodies. Other journals will cover the environmental issues of animal agriculture,
Eggs Simply Are Not For HumansEgg: an oval or round object laid by a female bird, reptile, fish, or invertebrate, usually containing a developing embryo. The eggs of birds are enclosed in a chalky shell, while those of reptiles are in a leathery membrane.
Eggs are found in almost all animals, from the eggs laid by birds, reptiles, fish, and platypus, and the eggs that are not laid by mammals and other animals. Eggs are an integral part of the reproduction cycle and are only found in females and hermaphrodites. Without eggs, most species would not be able to reproduce.
Bird eggs are most often consumed by humans, but some other animals may have their eggs consumed to fish and even reptiles, but for this journal we will concentrate on birds, primarily chickens. Birds, like other animals, lay their eggs after mating and care for them as needed until they hatch. They then raise their young, teach them everything they need to know, and then leave them to live their own lives.
But, sometimes an egg is not fertilized. Whe
Dairy is NOT for Humans!Milk: An opaque white fluid rich in fat and protein, secreted by female mammals for the nourishment of their young.
Milk is produced by all mammalian female animals who have given birth to their young. Depending on the species and how much the offspring is nursing will dictate for how long the mother will lactate and how much she will produce. Enzymes within the baby allows them to break down the milk, helping them get all their nutrients until they are developed enough to consume other food sources. Different species produce different types of milk, which aids in ensuring their baby grows the proper amount at the right pace. Mothers have been found to even produce different types of milk depending on the sex of their offspring. Milk also contains antibodies from the mother that helps to protect the baby by giving them an extra immune system boost (although it is not as strong as vaccines). Milk contains puss, blood, lipids, and other bodily fluids and nutrients from the mother. Nursin
Human Starvation, Deforestation, and ExtinctionIn this journal I will be discussing how animal agriculture is the leading cause of deforestation, pollution, climate change, human starvation, and species extinction. I won't be discussing how humans are herbivorous and simply don't need animal products. That will be explained in upcoming journals.
While human overpopulation is a major factor of pollution, deforestation, and climate change, its effects are still less than that of animal agriculture. Animal agriculture is the use of producing billions of animals for food, clothing, etc. on a mass scale. This includes raising animals for their flesh (meat), mammary secretions (milk), menstrual cycles (eggs), and even clothing (leather, fur, wool, etc.). But why is it so bad?
The primary reason animal agriculture is dev
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Pigs, deer, turkeys, cattle, fish, and other non human animals aren't someone. They don't have morals and thus can't be held to the same level as people. They commit acts of infanticide, rape, cannibalism, excessive killing, violence, and theft. We punish people for those offenses but can't for nonhumans. Also veganism isn't death or harm free because countless animals like possoms, rabbits, rodents, lizards, snakes, turtles, toads, and insects get killed for produce, nuts, cotton, and grains whether by pesticides, herbicides, or farm equipment. Let's not forget pest control. Everything we do somehow kills or harms animals. Modern slaughterhouses kill animals quick and painlessly with a vet present. Some places did it wrong and Kosher and Hala places have animals bleed out and animals just go unconscious. Much better than being eaten alive by wolves, hyenas, tigers, or bears.Β
If you're a true vegan then you also won't use glue, plastics, musical instruments, soap, airfilters, felt, glass, inks, paints, money, medicines, toothpaste, drive/ride in cars, fly in planes or use the computer or phone to post your garbage vegan and animal rights messages. You would be living in a makeshift house of wood or grass or in a cave if you practice what you preached. Even housing and infrastructure have animal products in them. You'll also reject all modern advances and conveniences because it all came animals in some way. I see zero vegans willing to back to the stone age and start over. Lots of plant products are very processed too. We wouldn't need to take supplements or fortified foods if we were herbivores nor would we crave fake meat products.
It is possible to raise meat sustainable as well as hunting and fishing. You just refuse to accept it because it disproves and challenges this vegan animal rights narrative you push for. Deep down inside you just want to be important or some sort of hero but use slander, name calling, bullying, and and other wrongs to accomplish it. No better than those who cheated for good grades or graces. Veganism is very risky to downright dangerous for some people especially growing kids. Nearly every pro athlete that has gone vegan either preformed poorly, retired early, got injured, or quit the diet. You basically call small kids and babies evil for needing animal foods and condemn the whole human race.Β
The human digestive tract is much shorter than true herbivores. It's at most 30 ft while cattle and horses have over a 100 ft and structures like rumen or very large cecums. They can eat grass and we can't becaue they can ferment there food while we can't. Other herbivores like rabbits eat their poop. Not typical for people. Humans have a low pH unlike herbivores. Humans don't use claws or sharp teeth to catch or kill prey; we use tools and superior smarts. We also cook our food and no other animal does that. Other apes eat animals too. Chimps will hunt monkeys and others will eat insects, snails, spiders, eggs, and honey. Gorillas also eat their own crap. Early human ancestors were vegetarian but eating animal foods and cooking really allowed our brains to expand in size and complexity. If that wasn't true then more herbivores with bigger complex brains like us. Gorillas and fang deer use their fangs to fight for females and other resources not hunting. Chimps and bonobos are our closet relatives and be careful how you use percentages for many genes are cut out.Β www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbY122β¦Β Lots of animals don't have sharp teeth but still eat meat like herons and baleen whales have no teeth or claws but are strict carnivores.
The Japanese absolutely ate meat before white traders mainly sea food. Livestock like pigs, goats, cattle, and chickens existed there before. Nope, many people are lactose tolerant. Mostly norther regions like Europe, Russia and some pockets in Asia and Africa have populations that can stand dairy. Eating too much of any food in to small of a time period will make you ill. Many gladiators were slaves but did eat fish and cheese to keep up their physique so they could fight well. Many cultures and groups practiced fasting but almost no vegetarian cultures exist. People would dry, pickle, and salt meat and other foods to preserve for later dates. Nope they still ate meat. Humans aren't herbivores that's nothing more than gross untruth with emotional drivel thrown in to guilt the public into buying supplements, ultra-processed fake food, propaganda, and deprive followers of real nutrition so they're easier to manipulate because their brains can't function. Veganism has never sustained any population or culture. It's a modern practice for spoiled rich people who can afford to turn down food and you have an unhealthy obsession with it to the point that you're aggressive and worse. You're badly mistaken, too proud, or at worst anti human at your core.
Newsflash: many herbivore animals cheat and enjoy it.Β www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEGLsJβ¦Β Β www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWcGEoβ¦Β
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And you did exactly what I said you were going to do, you're so predictable it hurts.
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Sharing evidence and truth with someone who desperately needs it isn't being "predictable that it hurts."
Why don't you actually learn something before attacking people on something you know nothing about?
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"Shoving your "sources" down my throat does not change the objective conclusion scientists have repeatedly made"
And what did you do? EXACTLY what I said you were going to do. How about you learn to read before making an ass out of yourself?
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