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Nestly: People as a society and for as long as anyone can remember, have eaten both meat and plants.We eat both food groups. If you can't stand the idea of eating 'the poor animals', then that's tough, because people eat meat. And you're a person. So deal with it.
While I'm not a big fan of going vegan as a "fad". I understand that everyone has their reasons, and if done right, it can work very well! But come on, there's no need to look down on people who DO eat meat. (Or eat veggies if you're a meat eater!) As long as you're human, you're a damn omnivore, so stop giving people crap just because they eat something you don't "believe in".
If you agree that we have molars and canines for a reason, and that people should respect that we are all omnivores, (whether they think they are or not) then feel free to add this stamp to your journal if you are subscribed with this code:
While I'll listen to any reasonable opinions, if you want to leave a comment just to insult me, I'll just ignore it, and you'll look like a big jerk. So just don't waste your time.
This stamp really isn't meant to be offending, so I'm sorry if it offends you, but that's too damn bad.
This is my first stamp by the way. XD I'm sorry, I just couldn't find a stamp that said this, so I had to make my own. Enjoy!
EDIT: Because I am getting hundreds of comments that are still misunderstanding where I'm coming from: This stamp is to say that you are part of a race that eats all kinds of food. That's how it is, so getting offended by someone's choice of a meal and giving them grief is just silly. I don't care what you eat, but you ARE an omnivore, whether you choose to go one way or the other. So shut up, eat what you will, and respect the fact that people in general will eat all kinds of things.
Thank you for reading.
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Scientists have concluded that humans are herbivores and eating plant-based is healthier for us and will save the planet.
I have not made an "ass" out of myself. I am the one spreading truth, and helping make the world a better place. Educating others about the truth and how to SAVE lives isn't being an "ass." Being an ass is ignoring facts and compassion to be cruel and selfish towards others.
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Congrats, you still remain an ass.
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I'm not an ass for spreading the truth and educating the real asses like you. Congrats are being rude, supporting abuse, and remaining ignorant all because you're afraid of being wrong.
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You came commenting to me, being ignorant and rude, and didn't expect to get your ass educated and shown reality? And all you can come up with is claiming I'm the "ass" all because you have no argument or evidence to support your wild claims. Yes, I'm such a "oh-so-terrible" person.
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noun
noun: ass; plural noun: asses
1.
a hoofed mammal of the horse family with a braying call, typically smaller than a horse and with longer ears.
synonyms:donkey, jackass, jenny;
burro
"he rode on an ass"
(in general use) a donkey.
2.
informal
a foolish or stupid person.
"that ass of a young man"
synonyms:fool, idiot, dolt, simpleton, imbecile; More
informaldimwit, halfwit, dummy, dum-dum, loon, jackass, cretin, jerk, fathead, blockhead, jughead, boob, bozo, buffoon, numbskull, numbnuts, lummox, knuckle-dragger, dunce, moron, meatball, doofus, ninny, nincompoop, dipstick, lamebrain, chump, peabrain, mouth-breather, hoser, thickhead, dumb-ass, wooden-head, pinhead, airhead, butthead, birdbrain, scissorbill, nitwit, twit, turkey, goofball, putz;
vulgar slangasshat;
datedtomfool, muttonhead
"don't be a silly ass"
Origin
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Yes, you are quite the fool. I'm sure you're very jealous that I'm living a compassionate and healthy lifestyle, and not to mention also am fabulously gay.
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Sad little Confederate, white supremacist can't even argue because she has no knowledge what science or decency even is. Probably from being an inbred redneck, as you're so proud of.
The Confederacy lost. Grow up and learn what it was really about.
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I am a Christian. And I don't support hatred such as the Confederacy.
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Christianity has known to be the biggest backward religion next to Islam(also caused massive genocides, wars, etc), the Confederates were known to be extreme Christians by the way. Also, being gay and a Christian at the same time is a major oxymoron. Not to mention, your Bible encourages to rape and kill in the name of God. I may be a "redneck", but I don't condone massive bigotry unlike you hypocritical Christfags.
Go bomb an abortion clinic while you're at it, may be then the Westboro church would actually congratulate you instead of hanging you straight away then protesting your funeral afterwards.
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It's clear you don't even know what Christianity is or what the Bible says. You're born gay. sexual orientation is decided by chromosomes. God doesn't give a fuck what your orientation is. He just wants us to be kind to ALL, even non-human animals, and to stop killing. Fundies are the people who twist a religion to fit their selfish agenda, such as trying to make a religion seem like it supports eating animals, hating gays, etc. No religion does this.
You don't condone bigotry and yet you're being a major bigot by ignoring facts and calling me names because you are too stubborn to learn anything? Such hypocrisy.
I'm a vegan. Vegans don't harm anyone. We live a lifestyle of peace and compassion. That's why there's no blood on my hands. Westboro is a cult, not actual Christianity. And don't worry, they hate me, darling.
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You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. (Leviticus 18:22)
If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them. (Leviticus 20:13)
Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. (1 Corinthians 6:9-10)
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Would Jesus Discriminate: wouldjesusdiscriminate.org/bib…
Leviticus Bans Gays? Well, let's look at it more!: leviticusbans.tumblr.com/
God Loves Gays: www.nuwinepress.com/top-10-way…
Does God Still Love Gay Christians?: www.gaychristian101.com/if-you…
God Loves Gays and Lesbians: www.everystudent.com/wires/gay…
Six Reasons Why God isn't Against Gays: www.religioustolerance.org/ash…
God Doesn't Want us to Hate Gays: www.notalllikethat.org/taking-…
You can read my entire Educational Journal on the subject here:
Homosexuality, Chromosomes, and Anti-VaccersHomosexuality, transgender, pansexual, asexual, demisexual, bisexual, heterosexual, sex, and chromosomes. Why is "chromosome" in that list? Well, because sexual orientation and your sex is determined by chromosomes.
For the longest time, and sadly some still today, believed that one "chose" their sexual orientation. That everyone was naturally born straight and some simply decided to be gay, transgender, or something else. Thanks to modern science we are proving this myth false. No one "chooses" their sex or sexual orientation. Chromosomes do that in the second trimester of development inside of the womb. In fact, not only do chromosomes decide on these two factors, but the existence of a "gay gene" also exists that makes it more likely for chromosomes to make someone's sexual orientation other than straight. While the gene for being straight is more dominant, it appears that the genes for other sexual orientations (or at least the gene that affects the change on chromosomes) is becomi
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>literally deny ACTUAL Bible passages
Romans 1:26-27
Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
Matthew 19:3-6
Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?”
“Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female’ and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh?' So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate.”
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You didn't even look at the links I shared that explain those Bible verses. God is NOT against LGBT. Being against LGBT would be like being agaisnt someone for having dark skin. It's how you're born. And God loves us. I know you're against LGBT and the color of peoples' skin, but God isn't.
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My dude, I'm bisexual. I don't care about sexuality or the color of a person's skin. God however, does give a shit about that. If he wasn't, then why are Orthodox Jews, who follow God's word to the core, happen to hate gays and racial minorities?
Not to mention it's been universally agreed upon by EVERY SINGLE CHURCH that Homosexuality is a FUCKING SIN. And it says it RIGHT THERE in your "holy book".
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The Confederacy is against people with certain skin color. You're living an oxymoron. And, again, God does NOT care about sexual orientation. Look at the ACTUAL Bible verses and the history behind them. The links I shared go into more detail. Only Fundamentalists who twist Biblical text to fit their own agenda make it seem God is hateful when He really is not.
Orthodox Jews most certainly don't follow God's word to the core. You really don't know anything about the Bible....
Where does it say EXACTLY that homosexuality is a sin? Point it out. WORD FOR WORD.
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For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.” Romans 1:26-27 .
“You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination.” Leviticus 18:22 .
“Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.” 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 .
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Would Jesus Discriminate: wouldjesusdiscriminate.org/bib…
Leviticus Bans Gays? Well, let's look at it more!: leviticusbans.tumblr.com/
God Loves Gays: www.nuwinepress.com/top-10-way…
Does God Still Love Gay Christians?: www.gaychristian101.com/if-you…
God Loves Gays and Lesbians: www.everystudent.com/wires/gay…
Six Reasons Why God isn't Against Gays: www.religioustolerance.org/ash…
God Doesn't Want us to Hate Gays: www.notalllikethat.org/taking-…
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5fvyn…
On top of that, sexual orientation is how you are BORN. Why would God hate someone for being something they can't help?
ay Genes: www.theguardian.com/science/bl…
X Chromosome Linked to Homosexuality: www.sciencemag.org/news/2014/1…
Gay Caused by Chemical Modifications to DNA: www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/1…
Science on Sexual Orientation: www.slate.com/blogs/outward/20…
Gay Genes Influence Sexual Orientation: www.theguardian.com/science/20…
Being Gay is NOT a Choice: www.livescience.com/50058-bein…
Largest Ever Study Shows Being Gay is NOT a Choice but How We are Born: www.independent.co.uk/news/sci…
And in Matthew 19:12 Jesus even says that homosexuals still go to heaven.
Actually LOOK at the links and learn what those verses actually say.
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NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT WHETHER BEING GAY IS A CHOICE WTF.
I understand PERFECTLY well that's biological, however your "holy book" BEGS to differ. I LITERALLY gave you quotes on what it says. You're literally a Vatican II Christfag, cherrypicking what you like like a fundie but try to cover up it's most hideous parts, or even worse, make revisions of it.
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Again, you ignore what the Bible ACTUALLY says. Look at the links I sent, child.
Cute. You don't even know what you're talking about so you throw around insults. And you using the term "fag" as an insult shows you also don't respect the LGBT community.
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Calling someone a "christfag" is FAR different from using it on someone based on their sexuality, get out more. And no, I READ your holy book, and many have as well. And it's pretty universally known that the Bible is INTOLERANT of Homosexuality.
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Clearly, you haven't. You're still ignoring all the links I sent you, child.
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I was raised as a Christian, child. I do not need to read your revisionist links.
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Oh really? So if we're so herbivorous, then how come Vitamin B-12 is so important to the body?
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She has yet to realize B-12 only comes from meat, but then again, that means I'd have to expect she was bright to begin with...
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Vitamin B12 comes from bacteria in the ground. The natural way to receive it is through "dirty" vegetation. Reusing the same crop land can deplete soil of that bacteria, so food grown in home gardens is a terrific way to get it, or by drinking plant-based milks. And you can take supplements as well. But, the dirt is where B12 originates. I never worry about it. I know I'm getting enough from the food I eat.
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I'm still eating meat and I still don't believe you.
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A lot of people didn't believe doctors despite all the facts and evidence coming out showing that smoking and taking cocaine was bad for you. It took over 7,000 studies and hundreds of people dying before it became common knowledge ow bad smoking is. Right now, that's happening with animal products. Meat, dairy, and eggs are IMMENSELY terrible for our health, as well as the planet, and of course the animals involved. Hundreds of studies are coming out showing just how bad animal products are and how healthy and good all around plant-based eating is. Ignoring those studies and evidence is simply willful ignorance to facts and the truth.
Many people also rather keep raping and abusing others than stop all because doing so "makes them feel good," or "they always have done it." That doesn't mean it's right or they should continue.
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You know what? I took your word for it. Two weeks after you posted this reply, I decided to go vegan. Like you. I connected with the ethnics, and I should've taken your word for it earlier. I probably should've replied to you a year ago and I wish I learned about the truth behind the power of change and I'm Sorry for hurting others, myself, the planet for so long. Thank you and everyone else for empowering me with the truth.
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Don't listen to Ga-Maleven. She's a pathological liar who distorts the facts to fit her twisted beliefs. Nearly all her so called sources are either taken out of context, cherry picked, or are just plain falsehoods. Her method (a favorite of militant vegans) is to attack peoples' consciences by wrongfully calling them murderers, rapists, torturers, and sociopaths just because they aren't vegan. In fact veganism is not practical or even possible for most people and specific lifestages. There are plenty of reports about kids and babies getting sick and dying from being put on such a diet. Not even adults are immune and most quit or cheat. Others just sink into greater malnutrition and sickness. Tons of people from diabetics, epileptics, those with grain sensitivities, certain allergies, and thyroid dysfunction will all have to suffer and even die under her arbitrary morality. Funny how she doesn't really condemn known predators for eating other creatures to live. She also says to feed pet dogs and cats (known meat eaters) vegan diets too which is a form of animal abuse. She would rather folks be weak and sick as vegans rather than healthy, hardy, and strong as omnivores.
All the so called studies that 'prove' veganism reek with bad methodology, don't account for other factors, mainly observational, are done during a short time period, or are done on self selecting vegans and are often authored by vegans making them rather biased too. There is something called the 'healthy user bias' at work because the vast majority of vegans also abstain from smoking and other substance abuse, exercise, avoid trans fats, refined grains and sugars (and most junk food in general), and vegetable oils that have been proven to be harmful, meditate, practice good hygiene, and see doctors regularly. The only places that have measurable vegan populations are first world countries where folks can ship food all over the globe, buy supplements, and can afford to turn down other foods. The fact that nearly all vegans rely on supplements, vitamin shots, and fortified foods is proof along with the nonexistent vegan cultures/tribes and fourth generation vegans that it isn't sustainable nor is as good for the environment or us. One issue is that these studies and claims treat all meat and animal products as the same when there's a glaring difference between unprocessed holistically raised meat (like pastured raised pork, wild game, or grassfed steak) vs the processed meat like balonge, many fast food hamburger, and quite a bit of factory farm junk.
Ga-Maleven has been slandering others and did other stuff that got her banned. She might be facing legal action against her. She seems to think that being vegan made her above the rules, almighty, and bulletproof. Not so. She refused to listen and respect others and displayed major immaturity and rudeness against other users of this site by calling them nasty names, making totally false accusations, bullying, stalking, and shoving her so called 'facts' down others' throats. There's nothing wrong with being a vegan but don't spew or buy into the same nonsensical propaganda that militant vegans promote.
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I get that you're doing this because you probably just love the taste of beef so much (like every other person who argues against veganism that I've seen), but let me counter some of your claims. Non-vegans aren't murderers, rapists, torturers, or sociopaths, but when the buy steak, eggs, milk or leather, their money goes to companies that murder, torture and rape. Vegans can be very angry because they're desperate to help reduce animal suffering as much as they can. If you're in a situation where you're trying to defend and help victims of abuse, are you going to get a little emotion-driven? Look at all the emotion-driven feminists, social activists. Also, no, a vegan diet is available for anyone. ANY diet is available for anyone. And as long as your diet is varied and of enough calories for your age/height/ect., it's unlikely you'll get sick/malnourished. There are a growing number of nutritionists who are concluding that a plant-based diet is sustainable for all stages of life, including pregnancy, and this "kids and babies can die/get sick only eating plant foods"... I searched around for that and I could only find one article about a baby not drinking it's mother's breast milk, so I don't know if you're looking deeper than I have time for or you're just lying. Other predators like lions and tigers are predators because they need meat to live. They have large jaws, they shear their food (their jaws only move up and down, we can move our jaws left, right, up and down), they have an intestine, on average 3x the length of their body length (ours is 9x on average), acidic saliva (ours is alkaline) and hydrochloric acid in their digestive systems (we have gastric acid, which has a lower pH)
I do agree that it's abuse to feed cats and dogs a vegan diet. No, being vegan doesn't guarantee that you'll be strong or weak, neither does being an omnivore. Vegans aren't immune to heart disease, we just have a lower risk compared to most people.
Bad methodology? Hmm? Health bias? I can't really make a comment on that other than, like I said before, vegan doesn't mean heart disease/cancer immune. But, it does reduce the risk. Vegan diets are more protective against cancer even when compared to other diets: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/… and that doesn't involve things like smoking and exercise. And the only vitamin supplements I've ever taken were vitamin B-12 and vitamin D. These are the only 2 vitamins I've seen as mandatory supplements. Vitamin D and B-12 are NOT made by plants or animals. Also, the cattle you eat are artificially given vitamin B-12 supplements. Vitamin D is also artificially added to milk and dairy products. And how is taking supplements bad for us and the environment? Where are you getting this from?
Another thing, while there certainly is a difference between grass-fed beef vs. Oscar Mayar hot dogs, all meat contains dietary cholesterol, the biggest contributer to heart disease (at least, the cases of heart disease that we have), heterocyclic aramatic amines (which are formed when pan cooking temperature reaches 220°c) and contain MeIQ, is almost 24 times more carcinogenic than aflatoxin, a carcinogen produced by mold, and all animal tissue creates trimethylamine N-oxide in the gut, which raises serum cholesterol. While I do admit that vegan foods are guilty of this too, like toast (especially burnt) and coffee contain acrylamide, a persumed carcinogen, and most oils are not heart-healthy, I don't eat fries everyday and whatever has less foods rich in carcinogens is probably a safer option. Unless you're going to eat as little plant foods as possible and do a Carnivore-diet, a vegan diet is safe, and in most cases it's sustainable and healthy, as long as you eat enough and eat a wide variety of foods.
If you're fighting for the victims of abuse, you do feel extremely proud of yourself and you do get upset. Ga-Maleven was very proud to be fighting for the lives of cows, pigs, and chickens when they're being killed by the hundreds at this very moment and most don't even realize it or care.
Also, I haven't made a response to your other comment but I've been working on it. I can't always be the best I want to be when it comes to countering people and spending my time researching. I can expect you to be replying soon. I'm just trying to do my best.
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I love the taste of various foods both of animal and plant. I will eat bell peppers like pears. I also enjoy mushrooms which is a fungus. So no I'm not doing this solely for the taste of beef and other meats. Most of us are quite annoyed to even troubled by the many lies and misconceptions vegans keep alive to spread their diet and lifestyle. legionathletics.com/9-lies-veg… www.businessinsider.com/11-lie… Veganism does spare livestock but way more critters like rodents, fish, rabbits, reptiles, birds, and bats die from chemical runoff. Industrial pollination kills bees www.motherjones.com/food/2014/… Just about everything we do is harming animals in some way and every ecosystem requires death in some way.
Murder is defined by the immoral or unlawful act of taking another human life with malice afterthought. We can't murder nonhuman animals nor could they be charged for murdering us. You can kill, harvest, dispatch, euthanize, slaughter, or slay animals but not murder them. You don't murder in self defense; you kill. If a worker died due to some work related accident; then you say the worker was accidentally killed, not murdered. You don't murder enemy soldiers in battle: you kill them nor are death row inmates murdered: they are executed or dispatched. When companies produce goods like meat, eggs, milk, and leather they aren't guilty of torture, rape, or murder. That is a total scare tactic used to blur the boundaries between us and the rest of the animals, and there are many welfare laws and standards around the globe that are enforced. Much of the shock footage is faked or taken out of context (saying all do this when just one did).Yes it was bad before and I'm one of the last to deny it. Animals are still a resource that we use like wood, oil, water, and salt.
Too many kids and babies are getting sick on vegan diets. naturalhygienesociety.org/diet… Other sources like the Metro and Independent go into detail on how kids are at greater health risks and grow up smaller and leaner. Humans unlike other animal cook food and use a variety of advanced tools. Cook-ing made food easier to digest, absorb nutrients, and allowed our brains to grow. Veganism is very risky for such young ones. Our digestive track is between herbivores and carnivores making us omnivores and the pH of our stomach acid is about 2 thus plenty powerful enough to digest meat.
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Does our current system need updating and reforming? Yes because factory farms/CAFOs have proven to be bad for the environment, animals, workers, and consumers. Those facilities use/misuse antibiotics, hormones, pump in supplements and more and the solution is holistic ranching in harmony with nature on pasture not in such facilities. If we stop consuming meat and other animal products then the livestock will go extinct plain and simple because we have no use for them. We can also thank corn and grain subsidies for moving livestock off pasture. www.deviantart.com/comments/1/…
It is absolutely true that processed meats aren't that good for you and that people should eat them sparingly or avoid them. Those are causing health issues. Burning meat is also bad you're right about that. No sane doctor or other expert is going to tell you not to eat your veggies. Quality and amount is key and no a vegan diet isn't practical for everyone. There are tons of locations around the world such as deserted regions, tundras, and mountain ranges that aren't suited for the populations to be vegan. For example the average price for fresh produce in northern Canada can cost $10-$14 a pound because it has to be imported and the region isn't suited for growing crops making fish and game the better options. Importing food makes a population and region vulnerable to food insecurity. There has yet to be a vegan culture or 4th generation vegans and too many other diets like the Mediterranean and Nordic trump the vegan diet. Humans have been eating animal foods since the beginning and these health problems like heart disease, cancer, and more started becoming problematic within the last century. It makes zero sense to blame old foods on recent diseases. Also don't treat all fat and cholesterol as bad and all carbs as good. There are good and bad versions of each www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutrition… www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLtQLD… Nutritional science is complex and plenty of studies are flawed or can be flawed. So we have to question it and too often vegan studies don't last long enough and don't account for other factors www.youtube.com/watch?v=Phxht9… chriskresser.com/why-you-shoul…
Ga-Maleven is a hateful hypocrite who doesn't understand or follow basic Gospel Principles/Doctrine which states that mankind has dominion over the other animals, is made in God's image, and allowed/provided use of animals for food, sacrifice, clothing, and labor. She claims to be Christian but doesn't act like one due to her nasty and idolatrous behavior. A cow, pig, chicken, turkey, and other nonhuman isn't someone and calling them abuse and murder victims is insulting to actual victims and their families. She's at best wasting her time and making herself look worse. Too often vegans become emaciated and have all sorts of health issues like brain fog, hair loss, tooth loss, loss of libido, weakened bones, lower immune function, and even heart disease, diabetes, and cancer.
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Ga-Maleven doesn't seem to think that rules apply to her and she got banned for her misconduct. She's been exposed for what she really is. Most of us now really think that she's exaggerating or even fabricating her past abuse so that she can play the victim card and get credibility, sympathy, and attention. She gets others angry for no real reason and wrongfully accuses others of wrongdoing and yet she fails to heed to standards she accuses others of proving her as unstable and toxic.
Beware and Stay Clear of user Ga-Maleven The Following Journal is a means of awareness and warning regarding the user Ga-Maleven due to her recent attacks on Luna-Stark that contains shared informational journals on the entire situation and is by no means any sort of personal call out on the said user. If you are someone who has either been harassed or personally attacked or who has discovered the leaks of personal self information by Ga-Maleven then please report and block said user then let O-RainKnight-O know about it immediately and for those who are personally offended or disgusted or can´t handle some of the drama mentioned by the contents of this journal then please refrain from reading and commenting on said journal.
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Ladies and Gentleman. I
Serious Personal Attacks (UPDATE)Updated content at bottom of page::::::::::::::::::
DO NOT use this journal as an excuse to go to her page and harass her.
Don't harass her at all.
That is not what DA is about.
DA is about sharing art and having a good time.
The only reason I have posted this is because she leaked Luna-Stark's full name
Here I am at 9AM, getting ready for work, and I get a note from one of my closest friends Luna-Stark
Since it was a note she sent, I won't share the contents of the note itself, but I will tell you the person she was telling me and several others about.
FIRST THINGS FIRST
@ ga-maleven
Some of you have probably heard of her. Most of what you have heard is most likely that she is a Vegan and hates everyone that doesn't follow her thinking.
Let me clarify something very impotent.
Her being Vegan does not matter in the very slightest
I do not freaking care if you are vegan. The ONLY reason I'm even bringing up that she
I'm not trying attack vegans or you and I've know quite a few vegans and get along just fine but it isn't ethical or right to repeat myths like that or defend such excuses of people. Be vegan if you like but don't do it because some self-righteous, pathological lying, hypocrite said so. There's a lot of pretend experts out there promoting such stuff and it harms us all one way or another. I'd rather you not get sick and even you stated in a journal entry about not being vegan anymore. If it's too hard to commit then you ought to discontinue it. Everybody is different and needs different nutrients more during certain lifestages and seasons. I feel so bad for the nice and sane vegans who get flak because of militant vegans. You did say a few things that were correct like factory farm pollution and blackened meat being carcinogenic and I applaud you for it.
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You know what? You're right. Death is part of every ecosystem and it's impossible to save 100% of animals from dying. I shouldn't have accused you of doing this solely for your enjoyment of animal foods. To us, just because a killing isn't classified as murder doesn't mean it should be done if it doesn't have to. We try to treat all life as precious and try to act on our treatment of life. You're absolutely right that kids and babies shouldn't be restricted through diet. Though many of these incidents that you listed are from not drinking one's own mother's milk as a baby and eating a primarily raw/fruit based diet. You're also right that not everyone in every part of the world can practically be vegan. Though most of the population lives in areas where there is a lot of agriculture to grow crops. Most of the problems you mentioned are from eating a raw/low variety/processed/nutrient-vitamin-calorie deficient plant-based diet. It's also very true that quality and amount is key. We do have omnivorous traits and herbivorous traits, we're a complex species. Thank you for applauding me, I appreciate that. Also, I know I have stated some very wrong things in the past, so I'd like to clear it up to the best of my abilities. Thank you for showing me the truth about Ga-Maleven. I had no idea what she was doing and thank you for showing me how she acted poorly. That was not at all right of her and once again, thank you for that.
You know, the first time you spoke/replied to me, I felt the need to give a harsh response, similar to militiant vegans. But now that you've shown me how it's not ethical and goes against some of my values, I won't be rude if I reply to you again. In fact, now that you and I have spoken more with each other, you actually seem like a very nice person. Us vegans just want to try to help in any way. We want you to see what we see, but some people like Ga-Maleven take it to the extreme, disregard other's well-being and go against the good values we stand for. I won't be like that with you or other people.
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Oh that's swell that we can come to an agreement and that you support respectable vegans too. Extremists on either side aren't healthy and worsen the situations rather than improve them. You're very welcome and sound reasonable too. Life is precious and needs to be viewed as such, never to be taken for granted.
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Awww, that's such a thoughtful reply. Thank you for such a kind and polite response. I also like how you told me "you'd rather me not get sick" and "if it's too hard you ought discontinue it". Though it's not very hard for me personally, I appreciate your kindness and I thought that response was quite sweet of you and shows that we could get along very well. I really like your art, you're very talented at drawing and you seem very interesting. As I feel now we're on good terms, perhaps we could get to know each other more, possibly even as friends?
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Why thank you much and as for friends that will have to be a maybe.
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Hey, you seem like a really nice, polite and sweet person and I think I'd actually really like to get to know you now that we're talking with each other more.
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Eric-ERG
I’ll be honest, I really hoped that this entire thing would have stopped.
I didn’t like how much attention the journal got, but I am happy that GA was banned for it.
Like I stated in the journal, I don’t care that she was vegan.
All I cared about is that she tried to leak personal information about my close friend, and was spreading lies so that others blocked them, me, and anyone else she thought was “insane” without asking the person in question what was going on.
It makes everything harder for everyone.
I know you guys aren’t really arguing, more of just talking about what you both believe, and I can not express how happy I am that this topic isn’t causing as many arguments, false bans, blocking, and mobs as it was beforehand.
It’s like those “restoring faith in humanity” videos -^-‘
Thank you both for being very civil about everything, and not attacking each other ♥️
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No, humans are herbivores.
Meat: The flesh of a person's body. The parts of an animal's body, primarily muscle, that is often consumed for food. The food source for omnivorous and carnivorous species throughout the globe. But is it actually for humans?
The short answer to that is "no." Humans actually are not meant to consume animal flesh, just as we are not meant to consume dairy or eggs, which I discuss further in other journals. Meat is not meant for humans for several reasons: The first being that humans simply are not physically designed to consume flesh, secondly because of the immense cruelty involved, and thirdly the destruction of the planet. In this journal I will concentrate on just the meat industry and how it abuses animals and the harm meat does to our bodies. Other journals will cover the environmental issues of animal agriculture, the dairy industry, and the egg industry.
Humans are not designed to eat flesh or any animal products. Our physical built is proof of this from our short, blunt teeth, circular moving jaws, inability to swallow large chunks, weak liver secretions, long, lumpy walled intestines, lack of claws, and no prey drive. Humans are incapable of hunting prey without using tools of some short. Humans also lack the desire to hunt for prey. Children are taught to see animals as food, but even this takes time. Children cry when they learn animals are killed, and rather not eat them. If a child is placed in a room with a rabbit and apple the child will always play with the rabbit and eat the apple, never the other way around. And when children are conditioned to view animals as a food source, this brings about specieism. Specieism is when one species, such as dogs, are viewed as "friends" while other species, such as pigs, are viewed as "food." Children grow up loving dogs and many other species, but for those few select species will see them as "food," but even then most of the time know it's wrong to harm them. Depending on the culture a child is raised in will change the animals they are taught to love and those they are told to hate. Which, if eating animals was natural for humans wouldn't lead to these extreme differences. Humans would have natural prey animals that would be universal for all humans instinctively. Just as every house cat knows that the scent of a mouse, rabbit, or bird is prey, but when smelling a canine, horse, or elephant know that that is not something to seek after. Not even our ancestors ate meat or if they did it was very little.
The argument that human canines are meant to tear flesh is utterly ridiculous. Human teeth in comparison to actual carnivores such as lion teeth, shark teeth, and leopard seal teeth, which are all true carnivores. Omnivorous animals have teeth such as bear teeth, canine teeth, chimpanzee teeth. While herbivorous animals have teeth such as horse teeth, orangutan teeth, and pacu fish teeth. Human teeth are closest to herbivorous animals. Canines are found in almost all animal species who possess teeth, even bovines. And some herbivorous species possess very massive canines such as gorillas, fanged deer, and hippos. Nothing about human mouths is meant for meat eating.
The long, lumpy walled intestines of humans is similar to other herbivores, allowing vegetation to slowly be digested and nutrients absorbed. While carnivores and omnivores have smooth walled, and short intestines to get rotten flesh out quickly before it can begin to rot. Human livers secret weak enzymes like other herbivores since breaking down vegetation is easier than meat. Carnivores, such as cats, secrete such powerful enzymes that if they do not eat after a period of time their enzymes will begin to break down their own organs. Humans are best built for picking plants and consuming them, rather than any animal products.
To top this, science continues to show us how animal products cause several severe illnesses in humans from cardiovascular disease, various cancers, diabetes, and many other illnesses, as well as bacteria causes diseases from consuming infected flesh. Meat consumption causes numerous illnesses. Animal products have been linked to 70% of illnesses in humans. The causes of the illnesses is from the human bodies inability to properly process animal proteins, the high hormone levels, and other body chemicals found solely in flesh. The bacteria caused diseases are also very high. The risk of developing cancer from meat consumption is almost a guaranteed promise. Dr. Greger's presentation gives much more information on the reasons why animal products harm our bodies like this.
Vegans save an average of over $1,000 in groceries every year.
Read full journal here:
The Reality of MeatMeat: The flesh of a person's body. The parts of an animal's body, primarily muscle, that is often consumed for food. The food source for omnivorous and carnivorous species throughout the globe. But is it actually for humans?
The short answer to that is "no." Humans actually are not meant to consume animal flesh, just as we are not meant to consume dairy or eggs, which I discuss further in other journals. Meat is not meant for humans for several reasons: The first being that humans simply are not physically designed to consume flesh, secondly because of the immense cruelty involved, and thirdly the destruction of the planet. In this journal I will concentrate on just the meat industry and how it abuses animals and the harm meat does to our bodies. Other journals will cover the environmental issues of animal agriculture,
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Horses have canines. ALL animals have canines. Our teeth are meant for tearing plants, not flesh. Can you go and bite through the hide of a horse? No? That's because you're not suppose to. The human digestive system also cannot process animal protein, lipids, or the other nutrients in animals.
Actually, our ancestors didn't as studies are showing:
mic.com/articles/170731/some-o…
www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8o6q2…
www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05…
www.independent.co.uk/news/sci…
You share over 30% of your DNA with a banana. Does that mean you're fruit? Orangutans are closest to us in DNA and have the identical teeth as us, but they're herbivores.
No one knows what the appendix is for. I don't know what science fiction you're reading, but that's a blatant lie.
Consuming even a small amount of animal products makes you ill. Here, watch Dr. Greger explain: www.youtube.com/watch?v=30gEiw…
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No humans are omnivores. We have a short simple digestive tract and cook our foods. Cooking makes food easier to digest, safer to eat, and allowed us to gain more nutrients. Many herbivores either eat their own poop or have to eat all day to obtain the needed nutrition. The food they eat is poor quality and hard to digest. Humans don't use our teeth to catch, hold, or kill prey; we use smarts and tools. Other great apes have stronger jaws and thicker teeth because they chew up tough roughage while we eat cooked food. We don't chew up giant leaves, thick stems, crack nuts in our mouths, or raw bamboo.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbY122… That 30% is based on similarities. Funny how after a while these vegan quacks start deteriorating faster than rotten fruit yet their brainwashed buyers still believe them even though they look older than they are, have bad teeth, boney, brain fog, and inflammation. Veganism can become a cult for those too blind.
All animals have canines? You claim to major in biology. Modern birds have beaks/are toothless, baleen whales are toothless, no modern reptiles have them, nor do any fish or amphibian or insect.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEGLsJ… www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWcGEo…
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If we were designed to eat plants then those who only eat meat or mostly meat would die.
mind linking to these totally non PETA or bias sources you have?
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Actually, people who only eat meat DO die. They don't get all the nutrients they need and die from it.
I have written a journal on meat that explains further with hundreds of links to various studies, doctors, experts, etc. you can check out here:
The Reality of MeatMeat: The flesh of a person's body. The parts of an animal's body, primarily muscle, that is often consumed for food. The food source for omnivorous and carnivorous species throughout the globe. But is it actually for humans?
The short answer to that is "no." Humans actually are not meant to consume animal flesh, just as we are not meant to consume dairy or eggs, which I discuss further in other journals. Meat is not meant for humans for several reasons: The first being that humans simply are not physically designed to consume flesh, secondly because of the immense cruelty involved, and thirdly the destruction of the planet. In this journal I will concentrate on just the meat industry and how it abuses animals and the harm meat does to our bodies. Other journals will cover the environmental issues of animal agriculture, After you read it, if you have any questions and need help finding specific links (since there's so many, I know), just let me know and I'll help pull them out from the list.
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Vitamin B-12 actually comes from bacteria in the dirt that is absorbed through plants. No animal produces it. The only way farm animals get it is through B-12 supplements, which they use 80% of the world's B-12 supplements. The best way to get B-12 is to either eat plants loaded in it, such as leafy greens, and/or take supplements directly.
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