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So here's a question, how big is the Enterprise bridge from Star Trek: Discovery?

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The Enterprise's bridge looks radically more advanced than her TOS counterpart, but true to spirit with the alert light at the helm/nav station, the grilled lights over the turbolift, Spock's sensor display -- even the whirling pattern, and so forth.

But the bridge looks pretty big in comparison, but how big?

Let's use the Franz Joseph Enterprise bridge from:

www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/…

As a basis, and assume it's the same dimensions as the TOS bridge.

We will use screenshots from this YouTube video for the DSC Enterprise bridge:

youtu.be/WtT7u0siJ9A

With the DSC Enterprise bridge at the 1:00 mark, we have 2 points of references to help with dimensions. Namely Rebecca Romijn who stands at 1.8m, and Ethan Peck at 1.85m as they are both standing at attention.

The TOS Enterprise bridge's helm/nav pit -- lacking a better term -- has a diameter of 6.65m if it were a circle instead of an icosagon -- 20 sided polygon, and yes I had to look up the term.

Using Rebecca Romijn's height of 1.8m, we can say the radius of the helm/nav bridge is roughly 3.75m, or a diameter of 7.5m.

That's only about 13% bigger than the TOS counterpart.

Due to some obscurities, it's difficult to know exactly how wide the bridge stations are. However if we use Ethan Peck's height of 1.85m, then from the same time from the video, we can estimate the height from the deck to the red edge at the bridge station is about 0.725m.

The height of the TOS red bumper is 0.75m.

At the 0:58 mark, we see the communication station almost dead on where we can measure the distance between the 2 support pylons using the red padding as a basis if we use the TOS measurement on 0.75m high. This says the distance between the middle of the 2 pylons -- aka the minimum width of the station -- is about 3.5m.

The minimum width of Uhura's station on TOS is about 2.9m which is the same as the science and engineering stations.

I cannot get a good fix on how far it is from a bridge station to the edge of the helm/nav pit from the video, nor the distance from station to station -- which would have been much easier than punching in all those figures. But if we scale up Uhura's station from 2.9m to 3.5m, then the DSC Enterprise bridge would be about 20% bigger than its TOS counterpart.

From the back wall behind the bridge stations on the Franz Joseph bridge layout, the outside radius of the bridge is 6m, or 12m in diameter.

At an increase of 20%, that would put the DSC Enterprise bridge at 7.2m radius or 14.4m in diameter to the back wall. And the back wall is where the one crew member walked behind Pike, Saru and Burnham to behind the terminals. Possibly to the Captain's ready room?

The TOS bridge would be about 11m at the most in diameter at the furthest point under the 2 overhead screens under Spock's and Uhura's stations. With a 20% increase, this would make the DSC Enterprise bridge having a maximum inside diameter of 13.2m.

And before you ask, the TMP bridge is about 36 feet in diameter from the tech manual, "Mr. Scott's Guide To The Enterprise," and that translates into about 11 metres in diameter.

Now a 20% increase doesn't sound like a too big of a deal, until you realize the 20% means the bridge's radius and diameter. When you calculate the area, that's a 44% increase.

And a 2.2m increase is actually 3/4 the minimum width of the bridge stations, like Uhura's from this image:

tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/2x0…

I looked at this image here:

tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x0…

Vs. the image at the 1:18 mark on the video, it's conceivable on how the DSC Enterprise bridge is 20%-25% bigger than her TOS counterpart without being outrageously big like Discovery's own bridge.

With this YouTube video:

youtu.be/iUX99QWfr2Y

At the 0:58 second mark, we have Soniqua Martin-Green at 1.65m as another reference.

I still laugh at Georgiou's reaction to orange.

Though Samora Smallwood is in the way, we can safely assume Soniqua is standing next to Doug Jones and that she's standing close to the pylon at the engineering station. At that moment we are almost looking at half the engineering station head on and it's almost as long as Soniqua's height at 1.65m.

Though not straight, we can say that the engineering station is about 3.3m wide, which to me says my measurements are somewhat accurate. And that Soniqua is closer to the camera than the pylon at that point.

Let's use a little trigonometry from this site that I used for the second hyper ramming post for Star Wars: The Last Jedi review:

www.carbidedepot.com/formulas-…

The math says the perpendicular distance from the red edge to the centre would be just about 5.2m.

From the Franz Joseph blueprints the distance between the centre of the bridge to the corner of the red edge of the bridge station is about 4.72m. That means the perpendicular distance from the centre to the red edge is 4.66m, and the width of the red edge is about 1.48m

With those figures, the DSC Enterprise bridge is 11% bigger than its DSC Enterprise bridge -- or about 25% more floor area.

I'm running on the assumption that the communication's station and engineering station are the same dimensions.

Plus it has a LOT more ceiling height than her TOS counterpart. By how much?

The 1:00 mark from the first video has Anson Mount standing straight up, and like Ethan, he stands at 1.85m. And from that we can say the ceiling height is almost 3m. That sounds steep until you realize the distance from deck to deck is 2.8m.

The same ceiling height for the TOS version is about 2.35m, meaning the ceiling is almost 28% higher. Though with room to spare, both Ethan and Anson are only half a metre shorter on the TOS bridge -- about the ceiling height of the turbolift lobby on the DSC Enterprise bridge. Or where the overhead lights are over the bridge stations.

This to me says if the ceiling were 0.65m lower, not only it would be closer to the TOS bridge, but it would also have a more claustrophobic feel as the TOS bridge.

The bridge looking bigger may also be the result of the corridor behind the bridge where the turbolift is stationed as well, plus the wide angle lens to give the scope and scale of the bridge that the original Star Trek didn't have.

Even though the math may say the DSC Enterprise bridge isn't that much bigger than the TOS bridge, when I see the Defiant's bridge like on here:

ent.trekcore.com/gallery/album…

I question the figures since Star Trek: Enterprise recreated the TOS bridge and might have those cameras, it still appears small in comparison by more than 20%.

Though I had training as a draftsperson which included geometry, I have no real experience trying to figure out distances.

So if you have your measurements or there's a link that has the bridge blueprints that a lot of people would love to get, please leave a comment, and please don't forget to contribute my family's move to Nova Scotia.

Edit: I goofed, if the straight red edge was 1.65m based on Soniqua's height, then the perpendicular distance to the centre would actually be ~6.27m.

That's almost a 40% increase which makes the bridge WAY bigger than I had calculated.

And please share my Nova Scotia move, please.

Description
So here's a question, how big is the Enterprise bridge from Star Trek: Discovery?

Before we begin, my family and I are hoping to move to Nova Scotia before the beginning of the school year, and we are hoping if you could give us some financial aid:

paypal.me/pools/campaign/11160…

paypal.me/pools/campaign/11162…

www.gofundme.com/moving-to-nov…

The Enterprise's bridge looks radically more advanced than her TOS counterpart, but true to spirit with the alert light at the helm/nav station, the grilled lights over the turbolift, Spock's sensor display -- even the whirling pattern, and so forth.

But the bridge looks pretty big in comparison, but how big?

Let's use the Franz Joseph Enterprise bridge from:

www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/…

As a basis, and assume it's the same dimensions as the TOS bridge.

We will use screenshots from this YouTube video for the DSC Enterprise bridge:

youtu.be/WtT7u0siJ9A

With the DSC Enterprise bridge at the 1:00 mark, we have 2 points of references to help with dimensions. Namely Rebecca Romijn who stands at 1.8m, and Ethan Peck at 1.85m as they are both standing at attention.

The TOS Enterprise bridge's helm/nav pit -- lacking a better term -- has a diameter of 6.65m if it were a circle instead of an icosagon -- 20 sided polygon, and yes I had to look up the term.

Using Rebecca Romijn's height of 1.8m, we can say the radius of the helm/nav bridge is roughly 3.75m, or a diameter of 7.5m.

That's only about 13% bigger than the TOS counterpart.

Due to some obscurities, it's difficult to know exactly how wide the bridge stations are. However if we use Ethan Peck's height of 1.85m, then from the same time from the video, we can estimate the height from the deck to the red edge at the bridge station is about 0.725m.

The height of the TOS red bumper is 0.75m.

At the 0:58 mark, we see the communication station almost dead on where we can measure the distance between the 2 support pylons using the red padding as a basis if we use the TOS measurement on 0.75m high. This says the distance between the middle of the 2 pylons -- aka the minimum width of the station -- is about 3.5m.

The minimum width of Uhura's station on TOS is about 2.9m which is the same as the science and engineering stations.

I cannot get a good fix on how far it is from a bridge station to the edge of the helm/nav pit from the video, nor the distance from station to station -- which would have been much easier than punching in all those figures. But if we scale up Uhura's station from 2.9m to 3.5m, then the DSC Enterprise bridge would be about 20% bigger than its TOS counterpart.

From the back wall behind the bridge stations on the Franz Joseph bridge layout, the outside radius of the bridge is 6m, or 12m in diameter.

At an increase of 20%, that would put the DSC Enterprise bridge at 7.2m radius or 14.4m in diameter to the back wall. And the back wall is where the one crew member walked behind Pike, Saru and Burnham to behind the terminals. Possibly to the Captain's ready room?

The TOS bridge would be about 11m at the most in diameter at the furthest point under the 2 overhead screens under Spock's and Uhura's stations. With a 20% increase, this would make the DSC Enterprise bridge having a maximum inside diameter of 13.2m.

And before you ask, the TMP bridge is about 36 feet in diameter from the tech manual, "Mr. Scott's Guide To The Enterprise," and that translates into about 11 metres in diameter.

Now a 20% increase doesn't sound like a too big of a deal, until you realize the 20% means the bridge's radius and diameter. When you calculate the area, that's a 44% increase.

And a 2.2m increase is actually 3/4 the minimum width of the bridge stations, like Uhura's from this image:

tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/2x0…

I looked at this image here:

tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x0…

Vs. the image at the 1:18 mark on the video, it's conceivable on how the DSC Enterprise bridge is 20%-25% bigger than her TOS counterpart without being outrageously big like Discovery's own bridge.

With this YouTube video:

youtu.be/iUX99QWfr2Y

At the 0:58 second mark, we have Soniqua Martin-Green at 1.65m as another reference.

I still laugh at Georgiou's reaction to orange.

Though Samora Smallwood is in the way, we can safely assume Soniqua is standing next to Doug Jones and that she's standing close to the pylon at the engineering station. At that moment we are almost looking at half the engineering station head on and it's almost as long as Soniqua's height at 1.65m.

Though not straight, we can say that the engineering station is about 3.3m wide, which to me says my measurements are somewhat accurate. And that Soniqua is closer to the camera than the pylon at that point.

Let's use a little trigonometry from this site that I used for the second hyper ramming post for Star Wars: The Last Jedi review:

www.carbidedepot.com/formulas-…

The math says the perpendicular distance from the red edge to the centre would be just about 5.2m.

From the Franz Joseph blueprints the distance between the centre of the bridge to the corner of the red edge of the bridge station is about 4.72m. That means the perpendicular distance from the centre to the red edge is 4.66m, and the width of the red edge is about 1.48m

With those figures, the DSC Enterprise bridge is 11% bigger than its DSC Enterprise bridge -- or about 25% more floor area.

I'm running on the assumption that the communication's station and engineering station are the same dimensions.

Plus it has a LOT more ceiling height than her TOS counterpart. By how much?

The 1:00 mark from the first video has Anson Mount standing straight up, and like Ethan, he stands at 1.85m. And from that we can say the ceiling height is almost 3m. That sounds steep until you realize the distance from deck to deck is 2.8m.

The same ceiling height for the TOS version is about 2.35m, meaning the ceiling is almost 28% higher. Though with room to spare, both Ethan and Anson are only half a metre shorter on the TOS bridge -- about the ceiling height of the turbolift lobby on the DSC Enterprise bridge. Or where the overhead lights are over the bridge stations.

This to me says if the ceiling were 0.65m lower, not only it would be closer to the TOS bridge, but it would also have a more claustrophobic feel as the TOS bridge.

The bridge looking bigger may also be the result of the corridor behind the bridge where the turbolift is stationed as well, plus the wide angle lens to give the scope and scale of the bridge that the original Star Trek didn't have.

Even though the math may say the DSC Enterprise bridge isn't that much bigger than the TOS bridge, when I see the Defiant's bridge like on here:

ent.trekcore.com/gallery/album…

I question the figures since Star Trek: Enterprise recreated the TOS bridge and might have those cameras, it still appears small in comparison by more than 20%.

Though I had training as a draftsperson which included geometry, I have no real experience trying to figure out distances.

So if you have your measurements or there's a link that has the bridge blueprints that a lot of people would love to get, please leave a comment, and please don't forget to contribute my family's move to Nova Scotia.

Edit: I goofed, if the straight red edge was 1.65m based on Soniqua's height, then the perpendicular distance to the centre would actually be ~6.27m.

That's almost a 40% increase which makes the bridge WAY bigger than I had calculated.

And please share my Nova Scotia move, please.