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Published: 2015-07-01 19:59:23 +0000 UTC; Views: 4532; Favourites: 267; Downloads: 0
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On June 26, 2015, MuricaΒ became the twenty-first and most populous country to legalizeΒ same-sex marriage, congrats.Art (c) Me
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That's a rather subjective term. Societal taboo has varied between the ages, and any one of them can be considered sin.
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...I'm just telling you what it is...
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Through a very nebulous concept that's poorly defined and dependent on the times, yeah, I know. Do you like crab or crawfish? Leviticus says that's unclean and a sin to eat or even touch.
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I also told youΒ
THATS IN THE OLD TESTAMENTΒ
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In the bible, still counts!
(To be read to "Doesn't matter, had sex!")
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No...it doesn't count.
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Besides that, have you SEEN some of the protagonists in the bible?Β youtu.be/9-lE7i8lzMI
There's some weird shit that goes on!!!!
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All part of God's plan!
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So's me arguing with you, if we're going on that logic. So's my doubts and disbelief. In fact, every person who's ever gone to hell was destined to go there from the very start, so why bother with salvation when God picks and chooses who goes to burn?
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He doesn't pick and choose. He just knows who is going and who is not. He can see time from when the earth was created, to its destruction. Β He knew you before you were born.
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And thus he knew I would sin and planned for it, right? It's not like he's trying to prevent me and failing to. Otherwise he's not omnipotent.
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No...everyone is a sinner
you
me
everyone
im trying to prevent you from going to hell right now...it's not a coincidence that we are having this conversationΒ
and God is omnipotent FYIΒ
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He tried to prevent original sin, but couldn't. Are you telling me he didn't see it coming? If he did, then why didn't he prevent it? Unless he likes sin... either way, it paints him as either omniscient or omnipotent, not both. I mean, you'd think it'd be really easy to guard an apple tree...
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God could of prevented it, heck he can do anything. But he decided not to, because he gives everyone a choice. Oh sure he could make all of us worship him, and be a tyrant, but no. Everyone had a choice
Adam and Eve had a choice, but they blew it.
eve was tricked, but Adam ate some of it too because he loved her.
God is both omniscient, and omnipotent...
just like Jesus was 100% man and 100% God!
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If we don't worship him, we go to hell. Doesn't sound like much of a choice to me.
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Hmm...I don't know about the worshipping part...you just need to confess that he is lord, and Jesus died for u
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Sounds like the most easy and suspicious signing of a contract that I've ever seen.
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God is a good God. He will never do anything to trick u
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Except maybe original sin. The reverse psychology is strong with that one. And could you explain Abraham to me?
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Your so called contract is the bible
what would u like me to explain about AbrahamΒ
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About how God wanted him to kill his kid to test his faith, and then said "no wait I was kidding." I'd classify that as a trick, eh?
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That's not a trick.
now it would be a trick if he said he didn't have too after he killed his son.
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It's still not very omniscient to tell somebody to kill their kid and then not to. It's also not decisive. I wouldn't respect that God that tells you to do a thing and then turns around and says WHOA WAIT YOU'RE REALLY GONNA DO IT?
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That's not what he did.
he was going to tell him to stop in the first place, he just wanted to see if he was obedient.
God never changes....he is like he was when the earth was created, so he was going to do that anyway.Β
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If God never changes, then we shouldn't eat crawfish, or do anything listed as a sin in the old testament, then. In fact, we should still be sacrificing bulls, like Exodus.
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becuase someone had to pay for all our sins and it was Jesus. That didn't mean God changed.
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If Jesus paid for all of our sins, then how come we're all considered sinners still?
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We all sin Christian or not, but when we go to heaven, if you proclaim Jesus Christ as your lord and savior..God will see his son in you, and you will be considered faultlessΒ
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Nice to know the password to Heaven. Thanks!
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UGH
you have to mean it and live like u mean it
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I can say it and mean it, but heaven sounds boring and asinine. Like seriously, who the fuck would be satisfied with an existence without problems? Hell seems more realistic.
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It's not just problems...
sdaness
pain
sin
sickness
death
and more negative stuff was removed from heaven. You get to see your friends and family again too!
believe it or not when you go to hell..you're isolatioted, and you get burned...forever. It's the place of teeth gnashing, and weeping...and even worse
you don't want to go to hell.
thats why I'm trying to stop u
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Sadness, pain, those are good things.
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...
are u joking or are u being serious
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It is only through coming out of sadness that we can truly appreciate joy. Through hard times comes humbleness and modesty. To quote Bruce Lee "do not pray for an easy life, pray for the strength to endure a hard one." I'm so glad I made mistakes and fell on hard times in my past, it made me stronger as a person and helped me learn some of the most important lessons I've ever learned. If heaven is painless and without sadness or sorrow, I have no interest in a life or afterlife without challenge, because without challenges there is no progress. To quote JFK "we do not do things because they are easy, we do them because they are hard."
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...ok..
imagine getting tortured In a Russian gulag only an infinite amount times worse....forever.
you would rather go through that?!Β
Dude a hard life Is understandable, but forever...MEANS NEVER ENDING PAIN SORROW AND SADNESS...TO THE POINT WHERE YOU WILL BREAK YOUR OWN TEETH
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Endless punishment is infinitely cruel, time you figured that out about your "merciful" God. The best part about sadness is the thing that follows after, but if hell is a realm of infinite pain, it isn't a punishment, it's just cruelty. That's why I don't believe in heaven or hell, since one of them is unreasonably pleasant, boringly so, and the other one is unreasonably cruel, pointlessly so.
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Do you really expect God to give you mercy forever?
its like you repeatedly slapping someone for so long they decide to hit you back.Β
Heaven isn't boring!
heaven isn't about everyone wearing white robes and endlessly bowing down to God, it's about seeing your dead loved ones, everyone that had some of their abilities lost, are restored.
hell...
hell is awful there is one thing after hell though.
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I'd learned so much and gained so much wisdom from the losses of my friends and family, and from my own personal limits and abilities. To meet them again would spit in the face of anything I'd do in their memory. I'd prefer to cherish their memory and continue to improve life for those who are living. It's so much more selfish to only aim to save yourself when you can help so many other people, solve problems, and make the human condition all that much better for everyone. I worry about what happens after I die, more in the sense that my work continues to help people. I care more that I continue to bring smiles to the faces of people, children young and old, that there's less disease, less pain in the world. Whether I have to suffer for that, even if I have to suffer for eternity, I'll know that what I'd done had stuck. That my name is still said, and for good reasons. That my name and services will be remembered, and not in the bullshit disrespectful way we remember our troops or servicemen. While you're concerned with getting to the next world, I'm concerned with getting to the next planet. Things that help people, entertain generation after generation, heal people. The difference between your concerns and mine, are that mine are visible. You think about the people who burn forever in hell, I think about the people who burn alive in warzones. You worry about getting into a plane of existence that, surely, must be better than this one, right? I worry about the plane I can see. I care not for the fate of the dead, only that they didn't die for nothing. To quote Hamlet, written by Shakespeare a couple hundred years ago, "For in that sleep of death, what dreams may come, when we have shuffled off of this mortal coil, must give us pause... Who would Fardels bear, to grunt and sweat under a weary life, but that the dread of something after death, the undiscovered country, from whose bourn no traveller returns, puzzles the will, and makes us rather bear those ills we have, than fly to others we know not of."
The point is, we simply do not know what comes after death. There's literature, but the point is that Jesus was born into Earth, and thus had not seen heaven nor hell until he could no longer tell us of either fate. Everything else was invented by literature and the written word, and yet, there was literature of what came after written before the bible, that told of prophets and oracles, and Zeus and Hera and olympus. It is in those words, yet inspired by muse and guardian spirit, that may very well tell the truth. After all, how could you have known to sacrifice a serving of your food and a cup of wine to the gods if you hadn't read the literature? And in yet another 3000 years, we will have since forgotten Jesus and your god, your holy trinity that pretends to be one being (Like hinduism!), and all that shall exist is old language arguing over his existence and the origin of earth. The only difference, is that my conclusions about the origins of earth and the species, come from evidence and ruthless experimentation, whereas all of religion's views come from text or holy scripture of some sort about a man who claimed to know something about how people should live.
Guess which stands longer in a court of law? Guess which is guided more by reason than blind faith? Guess which one can be made ridiculous so easily? GUESS WHICH ONE KILLED MILLIONS IN CRUSADES, BECAUSE OF AMBIGUOUS TEXT THAT MADE IT OKAY I GUESS? GUESS WHICH HOLY ORGANIZATION REFUSED TO TEACH THE POOR TO READ, AND GUESS ON WHAT THOUGHT BELIEVED THAT ILLITERACY WAS UNFAIR? guess which organization continued to use "Because God said so" to wage wars for over 1000 years before the renaissance re-balanced the population and the secular survived, to innovate new technology and methods of thought? AND GUESS WHAT? which one has more documentation of reliability, of repeated outcomes being the same? The answers go, science, science, religion, religion, religion, secular, religion, and SCIENCE, respectively.
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Ah, I do see your point. But this earth isn't going to last forever. Everything you do and everything you will do to impact humanity will fade away. If you find the cure to cancer, then good for you, but it won't matter when you die, and when you stand before God and give an account for what you have done. No good deed will get you into heaven. I'm not worried about getting heaven, I'm just making sure when I get there, I don't get a rude surprise. Nothing will matter after the earth is destroyed * and made new again* Β and for those who didn't proclaim Christ as their personal lord and savior...will perish.
are you serious...you don't want to see you family and friends again?!
You really want them to stay gone forever?!Β
GEEZ
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I'm fully serious, and earth isn't the last bastion for humanity. When the earth is made anew by it's end, and Jesus does return, I'm gonna be on Mars busy farming corn, beans, potatoes, and squash. So, yeah, my accomplishments on earth may not last forever, but my accomplishments on Mars just might. And when Mars ends, so then we shall be mining the belts of Jupiter, and when that ends we shall already be out of our system. How close-minded to think that we are limited to earth. If I do end up curing cancer, it's gonna be remembered for as long as there is cancer. Fuck your book of revelations, that says nothing about the men on Mars and the moon. It'll be a new world, like the Americas, used to escape from religious persecution. Because I don't remember Jesus being able to breathe in space, nor the word of God carrying through a vacuum.
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Yeah but before he destroys the earth he is going to call every human being in existence *THAT INCLUDES YOU* to his throne to be judged. Then he destroys the earth. And those who are found guilty for their sin will be sent to the lake of fire...which is way worse thsn hell.
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The lake of fire sounds wonderful. It'd be like a hot spring. Besides, when will this be? I might have a dentist's appointment that day, and we might have to re-schedule.
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1. Even if it was a hot spring I wouldn't want to stay in there for eternityΒ
2. Nobody knows when Jesus will come back.
3. You are being sarcastic...I'm treating you with respect, and look at what you are doing...
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I don't know, you're threatening me with an eternity of burning, that doesn't sound very respectful to me.
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I'm not threatening you, I'm warning you.
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That still sounds like a threat, and it's a warning about a thing that you don't know for certain yourself. It's a thing nobody knows, actually, but is hella easy to claim.
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I know good and well it's gonna happen
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Well, if it's not a threat, then you evangelical types have been crying wolf a couple hundred times. What was that about May 21, 2011? Or how about October 7 last year? Guess who's still alive, and not burning in a lake?
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