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Published: 2015-01-27 09:28:44 +0000 UTC; Views: 11754; Favourites: 425; Downloads: 23
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It's 1 in the morning and I'm tired as hell, but I REALLY wanted to get this picture finished.Alright, as a lot of you have seen, dA has made quite a bit of drastic changes over the course of three months.
The kickstarter was the change of the overall logo (which, by the way, is actually stolen from a Russian website called Platzkart [platzkart.ru/] ). Not only did it confuse a lot of members with the appearance of the Z (for Zeviantart?), but it took away the whole authentic feel to the entire site. If you were to look back on Deviantart's logo history, you would see that it remained pretty consistent. Plus, people would take one glance at it and automatically know what the site was. Today, it just doesn't feel right.
Moving on to the most recent change that made just about every member I've seen snap: The removal of webcams. dA claims that the widget has lost its initial value and those who want to keep that feature were to purchase the Premium Membership. Before the lot of you get on your high horses, I've seen the pros and the cons to this. The Pros include that dA is trying to be progressive, taking away this function allows the site to earn even more money through its users' premium purchases, it takes away some sexual-themed/suggestive content away from the profile pages of users, and it condenses any extremely long profiles (you know, the ones that you REALLY have to scroll down through). The cons include that nobody AT ALL was expecting this, it really impacted negatively to both Premium members and Free-Use members, it lowered the site's reputation for making this choice a reason for an easy cash-grab, it creates an image of "the rich and the poor", and the lack of reaction from dA after a good majority of user outbursts helps confirm these cons, which makes people even angrier.
Third and finally, news has surfaced recently that people could actually get suspended from having inappropriate content in their Sta.sh. Whatever happened to privacy?
Many times, dA would ask for feedback from its users whenever there were site changes. A lot of the time, the comments seem to go unread and the only positive feedback the staff pay attention to are usually the bug reports. What about us Beta Testers? Our job is to basically inform dA of any bugs or to test out something in particular (like the new site format before it became official). We basically test out new things that are on the way, but are left out of any decision making that could particularly impact the community like the new dA logo and the removal of Webcams. The more I've though about this, the more soupy my brain became. So I went back to look at the terms and conditions and I came to realize why a good majority of users seem to be entirely ignored by the staff:
This Service is provided by DeviantArt on an "AS IS" and "AS AVAILABLE" basis and DeviantArt reserves the right to modify, suspend or discontinue the Service, in its sole discretion, at any time and without notice. You agree that DeviantArt is and will not be liable to you for any modification, suspension or discontinuance of the Service.
Translation: You will roll with whatever changes come to dA, no matter how much you dislike it or not.
This was stated in the very beginning of our agreement to becoming a member of Deviantart and we AGREED to that. We AGREED to not whine, complain, or rant about any changes because if we did, it would automatically be ignored. That's why we all feel like we haven't been heard by the staff. The evidence is right there in the Terms and Services, the very thing we didn't bother to read and instead checked off hastily so that we could get on with it and set up our accounts.
My personal opinion: The way things have been made out to be as of late, it almost feel like this website has become a dysfunctional hierarchy. We have the staff, volunteers, the senior members, premiums till hell freezes over, premiums, and the free-users. Basically, it's just the staff and volunteers that make all the decision-making and such while the others are just plain users, though some are more respected than others. But there is one thing that I really want to get out not just for me, but for the sake of other fellow deviants as well:
We have the right to freedom of speech and we deserve to have our voices heard. After all, that is what helped shaped dA's community in the first place. Bring back the community-feel and stop trying to divide this site. Please for once, just LISTEN to what we as members have to say! You have more than enough volunteers and staff members to help run the community. Focus on the people and not just the formatting of the website!
End of my part. It's now 1:30am and I'm very tired. Thank you for bearing with me on this and I'm sorry that this description appears to be such a huge wall of text to some.
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Comments: 260
NepthilimFan In reply to ??? [2015-01-31 17:10:34 +0000 UTC]
People consider it as invasion of privacy because only you and staff can see it.
Unless you link the stash to other people.
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FullHitPoints In reply to NepthilimFan [2015-01-31 18:34:33 +0000 UTC]
However, you're still uploading it to their site. If dA was cracking into your hard drives and banning you for material stored there, then I could see the "invasion of privacy" argument.
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NepthilimFan In reply to FullHitPoints [2015-01-31 18:47:42 +0000 UTC]
Logically it's still viewed as that either way. I understand your point.
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quinoproductions In reply to ??? [2015-01-30 06:10:53 +0000 UTC]
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lstDdz…
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UGot2B In reply to ??? [2015-01-29 16:02:30 +0000 UTC]
I must say, amazing speech. and Yes, the former logo was better.
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uki--uki [2015-01-29 12:31:23 +0000 UTC]
You are not alone, check this out: It has fallen...
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Tigerwarrior13 In reply to ??? [2015-01-29 04:49:58 +0000 UTC]
Da was a really good website.
Now it's changed, in an attempt to fit into the modern designs.
It failed...and I like the old logo better, since it fits better!
I've been on here for almost another year. I've seen the changes with my eyes. And it's gonna fade.
I wish it was back to the original self. D:
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Chibisasoriz1 In reply to ??? [2015-01-29 02:28:01 +0000 UTC]
I personally don't care as long as I can see and draw art, roleplay to my hearts content, and read fan-fiction. However I did like the initial DA logo.
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Trueblade70 In reply to ??? [2015-01-28 21:55:20 +0000 UTC]
Now I kind of see all the hate for dA these days...
No wonder so many people are moving to Tumblr and other sites...dA just doesn't care about its users anymore, if it did at all...
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Nylten In reply to Trueblade70 [2015-01-31 22:05:14 +0000 UTC]
Right, which is disappointing....
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commanderjonas In reply to ??? [2015-01-28 16:42:37 +0000 UTC]
If you ask me they should just have said in advance that the wep-cam would be for premium only. But banning people for having nude content in their Sta.sh that is crossing the line
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Nylten In reply to commanderjonas [2015-01-31 22:06:27 +0000 UTC]
Unfortunately, dA doesn't know how to give its users a heads up. They just do as they please.
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MangoHoodie In reply to ??? [2015-01-28 08:41:49 +0000 UTC]
Salute to this brave soldier who had the courage to share the truth.
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Sir-Ethin In reply to ??? [2015-01-28 07:22:58 +0000 UTC]
I joined DA 11 years ago back on my old ass account.
A LOT has changed over the years. Still I keep to myself and don't bother with change.
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Sir-Ethin In reply to Nylten [2015-02-01 05:02:35 +0000 UTC]
A roller coaster!....
I dont know terms...
Or things...
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Kitsune-Masenko In reply to ??? [2015-01-28 05:26:33 +0000 UTC]
Well put and very true. I am really missing the old format.
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CraftyMaelyss In reply to ??? [2015-01-28 03:10:52 +0000 UTC]
This is so accurate Oh DeviantArt, what happened to the old you everyone used to know and love?
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Umagic65 In reply to ??? [2015-01-28 02:27:34 +0000 UTC]
*slowly claps*
This is so fucking true.
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Karnak44 In reply to ??? [2015-01-28 02:10:12 +0000 UTC]
Extremely witty. i love the personification you've done to the various "icons" we see around Deviantart. Absolutely wonderful.
As a hobby artist, I've given zero thoughts onto the changes of Deviantart. Hell, the only thing I noticed was the logo change (which I was irked by). Fortunately, people like you here, who analyze the changing tides of this website, allow me to swallow and analyze this. And, in short, I realize that DA is probably going in a bad direction for those prolific artists like yourself.
I'm not certain on how it'll affect me, given how little I post.
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Nylten In reply to Karnak44 [2015-01-31 22:08:53 +0000 UTC]
If it keeps up, dA will eventually collapse. They really need to pay attention to their users and actually LISTEN. We protested against the logo. We protested against the FB-like changes. We protested against the removal of a widget that was loved by many. If this didn't shake dA, idk what will, tbh.
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Karnak44 In reply to Nylten [2015-01-31 23:31:41 +0000 UTC]
Aye.
Hopefully someone gets hired onto the staff and does just that.
But if DA all goes into the bucket, where will we artists go? Tumblr?
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Nylten In reply to Karnak44 [2015-02-01 23:46:38 +0000 UTC]
I have no idea. There's FurAffinity, but that's mostly yiff.
Tumblr seems the way to go, but posts can get drowned easily.
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ScarHydreigon87 In reply to ??? [2015-01-28 00:28:17 +0000 UTC]
It's not like dA is gonna make us have to get premium just to upload
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periclipsa In reply to ScarHydreigon87 [2015-02-26 19:56:41 +0000 UTC]
I would literally cry if that happened. >~> Hopefully they never do that omfg.
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Samuraiknight-1600 In reply to ??? [2015-01-27 23:06:03 +0000 UTC]
I miss the deviantart i Joined back in 2013. when it was good.
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periclipsa In reply to Samuraiknight-1600 [2015-02-26 19:57:50 +0000 UTC]
I joined almost 5 years ago but I started using this account 3 years ago. unu dA used to be the best site ever.
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Samuraiknight-1600 In reply to periclipsa [2015-02-26 20:01:59 +0000 UTC]
It was a good site when i joined in october 2013
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periclipsa In reply to Samuraiknight-1600 [2015-02-26 20:18:25 +0000 UTC]
It used to be my favorite site, now it just makes me wanna cry because dA has changed for the worse. unu
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Nylten In reply to Samuraiknight-1600 [2015-01-31 22:09:27 +0000 UTC]
I joined in two years ago. I was so much happier then...
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Sir-Ethin In reply to Samuraiknight-1600 [2015-01-28 07:20:23 +0000 UTC]
I joined 11 years ago.
Change on this site has happend a lot.
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Samuraiknight-1600 In reply to Sir-Ethin [2015-01-28 07:31:14 +0000 UTC]
but now it has changed in a lot of bad ways
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Sir-Ethin In reply to Samuraiknight-1600 [2015-01-28 15:03:10 +0000 UTC]
It's changed a lot in bad ways many times.
Just depends on the outlook of the person seeing the change.
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Th3Frgt10Warrior In reply to ??? [2015-01-27 20:33:12 +0000 UTC]
I love this drawing.
And the description, true points everywhere.
Thank you for this.
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Miha-Chi [2015-01-27 20:29:28 +0000 UTC]
I used to like dA back then, I was really cool with it but now dA has gone downhill for me and I'm starting to hate the changes they made here.
Especially with the webcam and the r18 removal, I was mad about that.
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Nylten In reply to Miha-Chi [2015-01-28 01:43:51 +0000 UTC]
I used to like it two years ago, but from there, it's gone downhill.
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Sandvichguy1 In reply to ??? [2015-01-27 19:27:50 +0000 UTC]
If DA had a theme, it'd be this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbBB1j…
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Sandvichguy1 In reply to Nylten [2015-01-27 19:37:03 +0000 UTC]
Welcome to DeviantArt. Pictures, please.
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GhostHead-Nebula In reply to ??? [2015-01-27 19:10:18 +0000 UTC]
My first question is...
WHY THE FUDGE THEY CHANGED THE LOGO?!
jark we miss you :/
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Nylten In reply to GhostHead-Nebula [2015-01-27 19:33:15 +0000 UTC]
I guess it was their way of being progressive. :/
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nightinpinkunderwear In reply to ??? [2015-01-27 19:04:42 +0000 UTC]
I liked the original logo better
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