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Published: 2015-09-11 13:43:17 +0000 UTC; Views: 2538; Favourites: 25; Downloads: 0
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Description For the lives lost.
The lives given.
The lives stolen by the evil of terrorism.
We shall always remember the tragedy that took place on 9/11/2001.
As Americans and internationals of every country, we shall remember what was taken from us.

May God be with us.
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OddGarfield In reply to ??? [2015-09-18 13:37:29 +0000 UTC]

I cannot speak on George W. Bush's presidential trail in the middle east, but I will tell you that I support the idea of a safer world for our children. Whether it be part of our religion or not, when we remove specific radicals of the Islamic religion, then that is when I will believe that this world, or at least our country will be a safer place. I support Donald Trump for that reason and many other reasons.

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hardriff [2015-09-12 14:48:13 +0000 UTC]

happy 9/11

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OddGarfield In reply to hardriff [2015-09-12 18:42:14 +0000 UTC]

Indeed.

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MysteriousLiz [2015-09-12 13:17:26 +0000 UTC]

We will never forget 9/11.

I was only 7 when it happened, and I was shocked by this. The evil and cruelty, and many innocents died. 

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OddGarfield In reply to MysteriousLiz [2015-09-12 18:43:23 +0000 UTC]

We shall never forget the tragedy that unfolded on that morning.

I was only four years old when it happened and I am partially traumatized from watching it live on the news, but hey, its history, we've got to live with it and remember what happened to try to prevent it from happening again.

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MysteriousLiz In reply to OddGarfield [2015-09-12 21:13:20 +0000 UTC]

Yes that is true, and we must stand united against the evil clutches of terrorism. 

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OddGarfield In reply to MysteriousLiz [2015-09-12 21:16:48 +0000 UTC]

Indeed.

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CCMSonicFan [2015-09-11 20:49:59 +0000 UTC]

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OddGarfield In reply to CCMSonicFan [2015-09-11 21:02:52 +0000 UTC]

 

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BestBot [2015-09-11 20:24:50 +0000 UTC]

There's a difference between moving past something and forgetting, people are afraid of moving on because of the misconception that's the same as forgetting about all the people who died that day, dishonoring their memory and that's what the terrorists want

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OddGarfield In reply to BestBot [2015-09-11 20:34:30 +0000 UTC]

Indeed,  we must remember the lives lost, prevent attacks like these from happening again and prevent terrorism as a whole from being committed for the betterment of our nations people.

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BestBot In reply to OddGarfield [2015-09-11 21:21:01 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, but the the pursuit of preventing another 9/11 has led the government to do horrid things like unwarranted surveillance, unnecessary wars, Gitmo, not to mention the disgusting amount of racism towards the Muslim community. Historians say that America does the most terrible things when it's afraid and that is definitely the case with 9/11

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OddGarfield In reply to BestBot [2015-09-11 21:31:41 +0000 UTC]

.. and we wonder why there is so much racism towards the Muslim people, tell me, how do you know a civilized Muslim from a radicalized one? 

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BestBot In reply to OddGarfield [2015-09-11 22:09:24 +0000 UTC]

How do you tell a regular Christian from a kkk member

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OddGarfield In reply to BestBot [2015-09-11 22:13:35 +0000 UTC]

A regular Christian actually follows the Bible, a KKK member burns a wooden cross in defiance of Christianity.   That's sort of a no brainer.

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BestBot In reply to OddGarfield [2015-09-11 23:13:02 +0000 UTC]

Actually, members of the kkk burn the cross to symbolize enveloping the cross in holy light, members of the kkk are as christian as the sky is blue but rational minded Christians try to disassociate themselves from radicals who use religion asan excuse to harm or kill others like the kkk, replace kkk with terrorist and Christians with Muslim and its the same story

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OddGarfield In reply to BestBot [2015-09-11 23:38:20 +0000 UTC]

The only difference is that the KKK is a dying terror group twisted on racism, there are multiple Islamic terror groups out there in the world right now recruiting, growing and killing anyone who does not follow their beliefs.

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BestBot In reply to OddGarfield [2015-09-12 01:10:18 +0000 UTC]

No one should be accused of being a murderous psycho because of their faith, if you're so scared about all Muslims being terrorists, what's your solution, round them up cattle style like the Japanese interment camps?

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OddGarfield In reply to BestBot [2015-09-12 02:26:39 +0000 UTC]

Sure.

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BestBot In reply to OddGarfield [2015-09-12 03:36:44 +0000 UTC]

in this day and age, no one can take egalitarianism seriously because it's associated with psychotic politically correct social justice warriors hell bent on taking away free speech, so i was trying my best not to throw any accusations at you, but i cant find any other way to say the following

that's racist. you are implying you'd be willing to violate basic human rights of an entire religion off the baseless accusation that they are all terrorists. i believe that such ignorance is what cripples this nation and why the rest of the world hates us

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OddGarfield In reply to BestBot [2015-09-12 03:46:05 +0000 UTC]

Those radical terrorists violated our human rights by threatening our lives through terrorism, I see it as pure playback to the putrid radical race. Once they're in camps, we can pick the good from the bad and send em' out once more.

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BestBot In reply to OddGarfield [2015-09-12 04:36:01 +0000 UTC]

As a patriot, I thought that you would've known that when our founding father's established the US government, they implemented a judicial system call "innocent until proven guilty". Do you think muslim US citizens should be excluded from this because you think they're subhuman or something?

The biggest question here is whether it's ok to punish an entire social group for the acts of a few radicals within the social group

if all muslim US citizens should be accused of terrorism and locked away until they can prove otherwise because 9/11 happened, then all white people should be shot and killed. According to statistics, roughly 64% of mass shootings in this country are committed by white males. Think about it for a moment. Red blooded white men have killed more Americans than Muslim terrorists ever could. Assuming you're a white man, do you think it would be fair if I accused you of being a blood thirsty psychopath just because of your race?

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OddGarfield In reply to BestBot [2015-09-12 18:39:45 +0000 UTC]

What makes you think that I am not considering Human beings to be Human? ... they have all of the same physical aspects that we do, I only wish to pick out the radicals from the innocents for the betterment of our nations people to PREVENT terrorism.

Again, I do not want to put up concentration camps for the entire Muslim community, I only want to pick out the radicals and detain them for their radical mind sets.

Who's being the racist now? ... you're going after all white people because of their skin color when not all white people have the same mind set, not all white people want to go shoot people for racially motivated crimes. You are trying to twist this idea of commemorating the anniversary of 9/11 so strongly that you're picking bits and pieces of history out to put up some sort of defense, its pathetic and irrelevant as I've already told you, I want to pick out the radicals from the innocents. 

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BestBot In reply to OddGarfield [2015-09-12 20:48:45 +0000 UTC]

I said that 9/11 paranoia has led to the government spying on everyone, your balls getting clenched in airport security, and racist brutality towards muslims

you said that we need to sort through which ones are good or extremist muslims

i jokingly asked if you thought we should round up all the muslims like the japanese internment camps

you said yes

i find it hard to classify all that as twisting words or nit picking

as for the counter racism accusation, i'd like to point out that i never said i believed that whites are all mass shooting blood thirsty pychos, i was pointing out the hypocrisy in calling all muslims terrorists. i'm starting to think your accussing me of stuff to dodge my question, that being is it fair to assume that a whole group of people are all killers and lock them away until they can prove otherwise

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OddGarfield In reply to BestBot [2015-09-12 20:53:57 +0000 UTC]

Racism goes by skin color, not religious beliefs. 

We do need to do that! Of course I said yes, it worked with the Japanese and those innocent American Japanese citizens were released back into the public after they were proven to not be a threat to the national security of the United States.

You may have not pointed it out, but you sure gave it as an example, and for your information, I do not think all Muslims are terrorists, I have two muslims that go to school with me, one in my first period and one in my second period classes and they are as nice as can be. 

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BestBot In reply to OddGarfield [2015-09-12 23:25:07 +0000 UTC]

this is an issue of race because the muslims that are being targeted are middle eastern, in some cases, non muslims are mistaken for muslims, then mistaken for terrorists and either beaten near death or killed like the Sikh temple shootings

if you don't know how terrible the internment camps were, thats probably because of the education system and how fucked up it's become in the post 9/11 world over glorifying our history, ignoring almost all the atrocities we've committed. During WWII, without any evidence or warrant, all japanese american citizens were rounded up like the jews in nazi germeny with all of their property confiscated by the government. while non of them were killed, many died in the camps because of the poor quality of living with the only options being to enlist in the marines to get out of the camps or spend all day being over worked building weapons. no one was released until after the war and when they were, the government gave them roughly a few hundred dollars each to compensate for the thousands upon thousands worth in property and savings they lost when detained leaving thousands of US citizens homeless because the government accused them of supporting a militaristic opposition.

it doesnt matter if you think all muslims are terrorists or not, because when you consider throwing them into muslim internment camps, you are punishing the US citizen muslims as badly as the terrorists with no justifiable cause

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OddGarfield In reply to BestBot [2015-09-13 21:31:53 +0000 UTC]

You're stating a regional issue, do you think everyone in the Middle East have the same skin color? ... that's a tad bit stereotypical to say, especially when it is not true. Therefor, it is not a racial issue because there are people of multiple races who live in the region of the Middle East. 

You're really screwed in the head if you belief that all of us rely solely on our school system with its damn Common Core, the internet will hold the true answers without the sugar coated none since that some school systems will put on historical topics. You do not have to tell me of what the United States government did to the Japanese American citizens during WWII because I already know and I clearly do not care. That was a post war time quite like what we are in today, the United States government wanted to protect its people by preventing Japanese descendants from following in the foot steps of the Japanese Empire during the war between the two nations. Today, they should do the same thing to the Islamic community for the betterment of our people to prevent such attacks from being committed on our own soil.

You did not even comprehend what I typed up for you, freiken read what I am saying, we will monitor the Islamic community to prevent terror attacks, defend our national security and live safer than how we are now.

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BestBot In reply to OddGarfield [2015-09-13 21:40:57 +0000 UTC]

i'm getting bored of this conversation real fast, i can say the same stuff about you not listening to anything i'm saying, i doubt you are listening to what you're saying if you're spending this much energy on defending the japanese internment camps.

If you monitor the Islamic community, that's unconstitutional by the fourth amendment. If you think someone is a terrorist, get a warrant, otherwise, don't justify it by saying they are the same race as a random bunch of psychopaths that killed people once

you can google this if you think i'm making it up but Benjamin Franklin once said "He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither"

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OddGarfield In reply to BestBot [2015-09-13 23:36:01 +0000 UTC]

I think we're done with this debate, neither of us will back down so lets just accept the fact and respect the fact that I was originally trying to simply dedicate this piece to the lives lost on 9/11.

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BestBot In reply to OddGarfield [2015-09-14 00:30:12 +0000 UTC]

but the arguement about muslims was part of a bigger point i was making that the country has gone batshit insane over 9/11 spying on everyone, causing unnecessary wars, handing out money and weapons to random countries and people which indirectly contribute to the rise of terrorists, and toturing completely innocent people in gitmo with rectal hydration even though it's been 14 years since its happened and the man how organized it is rotting at the bottom of the ocean

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OddGarfield In reply to BestBot [2015-09-14 01:12:23 +0000 UTC]

Me and you equally hate our federal government handing out money to nations like Iran and Saudi Arabia. Tell me, how can you possibly know if any of the detainees in Gitmo are innocent or not?

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BestBot In reply to OddGarfield [2015-09-15 04:05:57 +0000 UTC]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHLuwm…

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BlessedDemonKiller [2015-09-11 16:46:27 +0000 UTC]

Thank for you posting this.

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OddGarfield In reply to BlessedDemonKiller [2015-09-11 20:23:51 +0000 UTC]

You're quite welcome.  I was but a child when this whole strategic terror attack unfolded on both the World Trade Center and the Pentagon as I watched it live on the news. I can still picture every key detail of it.

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BlessedDemonKiller In reply to OddGarfield [2015-09-11 21:18:20 +0000 UTC]

Ya, I had the radio only and what I picked up what my family talked about. My mother was anti tv for everything even the news. I didn't see it till we had tv and on date it happened. This was probably the first time I learned the world outside my world was so dark. But I was kid and tried not to worry about it. Is it a good or bad thing for young children to witness the news? I'm sure it disturbed many children more then we know.

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OddGarfield In reply to BlessedDemonKiller [2015-09-11 21:27:00 +0000 UTC]

Well, I don't know how all children may react to what they see unfold on the news, but I can certainly tell you that I am mentally traumatized by the site of people joining hands to escape a burning building as they jump from floors above the impact site amongst the North and South towers of the World Trade Center. I can still remember details like that, I remember both towers falling, I remember seeing photographs of the plane that hit the Pentagon. I even remember where I was at as I watched it on TV and I was only four years old.

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BlessedDemonKiller In reply to OddGarfield [2015-09-13 19:08:32 +0000 UTC]

Ya at 4 I think That's to young. Not to sound harsh. I don't think your parents or who ever was watching you at the time...shouldn't have let you see that. I only saw the airplanes hit. But saddly we live in a pretty sick dark world. It's only getting worse. Though we must look for the good within the mess. Don't get me wrong I feel society will crash. Not with the Jesus returning. I believe something else will happen before then. Who knows the earth could push the reset button and global warning is happening faster that could send us into a ice age. Or a massive war could break out. I guess my point is. Children should be somewhat ready for the darkness of the world when they are mature enough.

Also this just my opinion about children being ready. Like if they have to be ready to kill. Kill as in protections and hunting. Again when they are mature enough. Like if you look at many of greatest warriors. They trained their young when they started to walk. Holding, usings weapons. Vikings, samurai and the Mongolians are some I know. Which the times were different then today. Just being ready and ready to fend for yourself or your family. Off topic but to me it seems to follow.

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OddGarfield In reply to BlessedDemonKiller [2015-09-13 21:23:55 +0000 UTC]

The Bible says that all will get worst than before, good will become bad and bad will become good in the eyes of Humanity. Then will be the time of Judgment Day when Christ returns to our world. 

Those are not the exact words of text but its from memory.

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BlessedDemonKiller In reply to OddGarfield [2015-09-13 23:27:18 +0000 UTC]

Ya....I don't think you understand but it doesn't matter. oh well lol.

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OddGarfield In reply to BlessedDemonKiller [2015-09-13 23:36:22 +0000 UTC]

Hmm.

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Life-is-the-bubbles [2015-09-11 14:48:40 +0000 UTC]

Hello. This has been featured in my journal --> fav.me/d996bf2

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OddGarfield In reply to Life-is-the-bubbles [2015-09-11 20:22:24 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for featuring my tribute piece to this tragic day.  May God bless you.  

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StephenBarlow [2015-09-11 13:45:33 +0000 UTC]

Very well done sir.

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OddGarfield In reply to StephenBarlow [2015-09-11 20:22:33 +0000 UTC]

Thank you.  

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JackofAllAss [2015-09-11 13:45:20 +0000 UTC]

May God save America.

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OddGarfield In reply to JackofAllAss [2015-09-11 20:24:33 +0000 UTC]

May he heal the minds of our people to once more rebirth the American dream that our four fathers dreamt of.

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BestBot In reply to OddGarfield [2015-09-12 03:59:32 +0000 UTC]

misspelt forefathers XD 

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OddGarfield In reply to BestBot [2015-09-12 18:34:34 +0000 UTC]

You get the idea.

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JackofAllAss In reply to OddGarfield [2015-09-11 20:28:22 +0000 UTC]

Either that or we're all f***ed.

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OddGarfield In reply to JackofAllAss [2015-09-11 20:41:56 +0000 UTC]

Indeed.

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