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Comments: 85
Eric-S-Huffman In reply to ??? [2020-01-08 21:12:48 +0000 UTC]
Well at least the Goose parts.. he was my favorite character in it.
They did a TOP 2 but I wont pay money for it and will just wait and DL it since it's not that much of a priority to watch. prolly suck too since it has Tom Cruise in it again.
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OliverInk In reply to Eric-S-Huffman [2020-01-09 10:00:37 +0000 UTC]
I haven't seen 2 either.
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Eric-S-Huffman In reply to OliverInk [2020-01-09 17:55:40 +0000 UTC]
there is prolly a valid and good reason neither of us has.
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OliverInk In reply to AirfixNikon [2020-01-06 20:49:19 +0000 UTC]
And if not, a better day to dine!
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OldCartoonGeek [2020-01-06 02:37:45 +0000 UTC]
Maybe if the Klingons found another Doomsday Machine and somehow re-programmed it...
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OliverInk In reply to OldCartoonGeek [2020-01-06 03:30:53 +0000 UTC]
Wow... that's a cool idea!
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OldCartoonGeek In reply to OliverInk [2020-01-06 13:16:22 +0000 UTC]
Feel free to use it if you want to.
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Champis01 In reply to ??? [2020-01-06 02:32:16 +0000 UTC]
Not sure why all of you seem to think the Klingons are at some kind of severe disadvantage here. Have any of you actually watched any SW movies? BOTH Death Stars, I and II, were utterly destroyed by single man fighter-craft essentially, ships with a tiny fraction of the speed, endurance and firepower of even a single D7. The Death Star primary weapon is a planet-killer, totally unsuited to engage small and nimble targets like these capital ships. I mean, all you have to do to evade the main dish, is simply position your ships on, wait it... the OPPOSITE side of the Death Star. The Death Star itself, is not well defended in terms of firepower, only seeming to have some? surface batteries meant to deal with you know, small one man attack craft (how'd those work out btw?). Weve never once seen evidence of heavy, long-range anti-capital ship batteries of any kind on either DS.
And dont say the DSII was used in the Anti-Ship role. The rebels are idiots, as are everyone else in the SW universe when it comes to space tactics, and whose fault is it they assumed the DS wasnt operational, and second, its also their own damned fault they sent there main fleet into the DS's main firing arc. Hollywood tactics. Look cool on screen, in 'real' life, they'd get you killed and your forces wiped out with ease.
The main defense of a Death Star, has to be a Unit of Star Destroyers tasked engaging ships just like, or similar to the D7. If such a fleet is present around the DS, Sure, those D7s wont last. If there is NO defense fleet assigned to protect the DS, those D7s have little to worry about besides possible TIE swarms and as Ive already said, evading the main dish is trivial. In fact, I have little doubt a small fleet like that could bombard the main dish itself, and position themselves outside its firing arcs and probably do, a lot of damage to much of its delicate surface components.
Now sure, these 3 ships cant really destroy the DS either, it is too massive, but, they could hang above its surface, basically firing at will until they expended their all their ordnance. The only concern here, is maybe TIE fighters get sent to ram the D7s in the hopes of damaging them or forcing them to withdraw. The D7 has no real point defense vs that kind of attack craft, so they would vulnerable to that, potentially.
Oh, and did I mention the D7 can outmaneuver the DS?. A DS is just a big globe of fairly fragile metal hanging in space. It cant evade, or dodge, or even protect itself all that well. The best defense it has, sans a dedicated fleet to protect it, is too simply run away.
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Prometheus332 In reply to Champis01 [2020-01-06 20:27:47 +0000 UTC]
On your tactics i must agree.
But: The deathstar had lots and lots of turbolaser, wich would be very efficent against everything but fighters. Secondly i would guess they also had Tie-Bombers on that station.
Just something to consider
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Khryton In reply to Champis01 [2020-01-06 13:37:55 +0000 UTC]
"The Death Star itself, is not well defended in terms of firepower, only seeming to have some? surface batteries meant to deal with you know, small one man attack craft (how'd those work out btw?). Weve never once seen evidence of heavy, long-range anti-capital ship batteries of any kind on either DS. "
Actually that isn't correct...Turbolasers are anti-ship batteries, that is why the x-wings for the most part were able to evade fire so easily at the Battle of Yavin. Why the DS2 did not use its turbolasers at the Battle of Endor is a bit of a mystery to me.
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AirfixNikon In reply to Champis01 [2020-01-06 11:08:41 +0000 UTC]
I agree with you, and you should also point out that they're Klingons, and what the Klingons would be willing to do.
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OliverInk In reply to Champis01 [2020-01-06 03:56:32 +0000 UTC]
Great observations and tactics!
I like the idea of them attacking the main dish, ala bombing runs, though that only works if the Deathstar has no shield.
The trench size itself looks huge in some shots, though I don't imagine a D7 could do a torpedo run like an X-Wing could.
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Champis01 In reply to OliverInk [2020-01-07 09:31:08 +0000 UTC]
Actually, that is correct. DS I and II, has, had, little in the way of Anti-Cap ship weapons itself, besides the main dish, which is rather impractical for that role.....
And I didn't even bother mentioning he uses the DS II, which is not complete, and those D7's could fly straight into the super-structure itself and fire at will with near-total impunity, at the totally unprotected internal structures. Those three ships, unless countered (somehow), could do a as much damage as their ordinance allowed before they would have to withdraw and go get more torpedoes.
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OliverInk In reply to Champis01 [2020-01-07 10:18:38 +0000 UTC]
Correct it is the DS II.
Unless shielded, the Klingons might well be able to trash the inner structure badly.
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Kodai-Okuda In reply to ??? [2020-01-06 01:28:27 +0000 UTC]
Three klingon battlecruisers against a Death Star.
Klingons will lose badly.
The Death Star would win just by sheer overwhelming firepower and force.
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AirfixNikon In reply to Kodai-Okuda [2020-01-06 11:18:50 +0000 UTC]
With all due respect. That is the Death Star II.
It's an unfinished project, sure it is fully operational and can fire its planet killing beam, but it still got gaps on half of its side. Assuming if Han blew up the base on the moon, to lower the shields around the Death Star II, then all the Klingons would do is fly into the Death Star, and ram any power sources they could find in there. They don't care if they're going to die inside the Death Star.
"LANDO!! Get that garbage scow out of the way! We'll take over! Now helmsman, FULL RAMMING SPEED! Head for that power source!"
"Sheer overwhelming firepower and force"??? Jeez! Haven't you heard of the phase David and Goliath??
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Kodai-Okuda In reply to AirfixNikon [2020-01-06 19:27:26 +0000 UTC]
Interesting points.
And if those are K'Tinga class (not STD junk, but actual Klingon ships), they have a cloaking device so if they could send a few Photo-torps down into the core of the Death Star and hit the main reactor, they would win.
However, I would put money on a trio of Klingon Bird of Prey over K'Tingas. The BOP is fast like the M. Falcon and have heavy torps plus phaser, disruptors and a cloaking device. That trio would certainly win against the Death Star Two.
Yes I've heard of David and Goliath, I'd have better had since I'm Hebrew.
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AirfixNikon In reply to Kodai-Okuda [2020-01-06 20:02:19 +0000 UTC]
Yes. Regardless of which ships they have, the D7s, the K't'inga classes, the Vor'cha, or even the Negh'Var ones, they all have cloaking devices, and so does the Bird-of-Prey (all variation of BOPs).
Do you know of any ships in Star Wars that can be cloaked? None, unless it's mentioned in any of the books, I don't think they do. Thus those Klingons would just cloak their ships, and once again, assuming Han Solo had blew up the shield generation on the moon down below, therefore turning off the force field around the Death Star, all the Klingons have to do is just sail casually right into the Death Star, and those Imperial officers would not know because they don't have the technology or the experience to look for cloaked ships (only Darth Vader would sense something wrong). Then they would let rip with everything they have point blank.
Since you're aware of David and Goliath, then you'll know that the Death Star, being big with a powerful planet killing laser beam, is very much of Goliath against a single BOP being David.
So, it will be the Imperial officers and the Stromtroopers who will lose badly.
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Kodai-Okuda In reply to AirfixNikon [2020-01-06 21:38:33 +0000 UTC]
You're talking to a Classic Star Trek fan, so I'm biased in your favor here.
Proof of my claim...and shameless plug.
I agree with your analysis.
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OliverInk In reply to Kodai-Okuda [2020-01-06 02:16:07 +0000 UTC]
A fitting warrior's death!
And the Klingons have more on the way... lots more!
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Kodai-Okuda In reply to OliverInk [2020-01-06 06:28:57 +0000 UTC]
"Today is a good day to die!" was the last thing Grand Moff Tarkin heard before the aliens did modest damage to his Death Star.
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OliverInk In reply to Kodai-Okuda [2020-01-06 20:29:27 +0000 UTC]
Time was spent trying to swat the annoying Klingons from space. Soon Tarkin would learn the sacrifices weren't in vain, as Klingons raced to to gather reinforcements. A great number at that.
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Kodai-Okuda In reply to OliverInk [2020-01-06 21:42:01 +0000 UTC]
The Klingons vs the Empire would be interesting.
I imagine they'd bleed each other dry.
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OliverInk In reply to Kodai-Okuda [2020-01-07 10:56:59 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, lots of bleeding going on in that sort of conflict.
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DigitalExplorations In reply to Kodai-Okuda [2020-01-06 01:35:13 +0000 UTC]
Tell that to the Klingons. They don't care. They just want to die gloriously in battle, and they're about to do just that.
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Mindslave24-7 In reply to ??? [2020-01-05 22:24:22 +0000 UTC]
Oh sure.... Give the Klingons a hard on with a giant space weapon... :
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Spino2Earth In reply to ??? [2020-01-05 22:05:49 +0000 UTC]
Good to see allied ships attack the enemy!
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OliverInk In reply to Spino2Earth [2020-01-05 23:47:37 +0000 UTC]
Wouldn't have it any other way!
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