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I was thinking this morning, what could beat up an Evangelion? And then I thought of my favourite thing in the whole world - and came up with this
Though, as I quite like Asuka - I'm going to pretend it's Shinji in there (I used Unit-02 cos I asked a friend and he sugested it, as it 'doesn't look as cool as the others' )
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In Godzilla 2000 it explains how godzillas cells hav incredible regenerative abilities and can heal almost any damage in a few hours at most, no it's not exceedingly impressive but he has the skill
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Okay, thanks for pointing that out!
I have another question about Godzilla canon. Do fans typically see Godzilla as one being, or separate ones for each movie/saga?
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Techniquelly there r 3 or 4 different godzillas, Godzilla 1 from the original movie that was killed by an oxygen destroyer then revived several years later as the cyborg Kiryu, Godzilla 2 appeared shortly after the first died and fought many monsters earrings Godzilla family the king of the monster title, he then after extensive mutation and many battles with nuclear opponents melted down nearly taking the planet with him, his son then became the 3rd Godzilla and continued his fathers legacy of monster slaughtering and world saving and then there is Godzilla X the latest in the generation, origin unknown most likely either G3s son or brother and power greatest in the line so far
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I thought that there would be about 5. The first one dies, then there is the Showa one (or is that the first one?), followed by the Heisei, and then Shinsei, and the one from GMK. Again, it's been a while, and I am not sure which movies tie in where, (it's sort of selectively picked up and dropped depending on the plot of the movie). I assume that it gets really hectic.
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Here's how it went down! There was the first Godzilla from the original movie, Godzilla: King of the Monsters, that was killed by the Oxygen Destroyer. Then, another one was born to become the Showa Godzilla, the old school dude. That one was never killed, he only returned to the sea at the end of Terror of Mechagodzilla and was never seen again. The Heisei Godzilla, as explained in Godzilla VS King Ghidorah, was created by a Godzillasaur that was moved to the bottom of the Bearing Sea by humans from the year 2200 and was mutated by attacking a nuclear submarine. this one gained too much nuclear energy from bomb tests and Spacegodzilla and became Burning Godzilla which melted down at the end of Godzilla VS Destroyah. The enormous amount of energy released by Burning Godzilla's meltdown revived his freshly killed son and mutated him to adulthood. This became the Shinsei (Millennium) Godzilla. GMK Godzilla is the remains of the original Godzilla that regenerated and was fueled with rage by all the people who died in the Pacific war. This Godzilla killed all the guardian monsters but was killed, TOTALLY by luck, when he inhaled the sub that had one of those drills attached to it and it was, again by luck, launched perfectly into the soft tissue of the inside of Godzilla's neck. This wound was further damaged when he tried to use his atomic breath and it backfired. His skeleton was then used to create Kiryu which was finished a year later to stop the Shinsei Godzilla from destroying Tokyo. Kiryu managed to drive this Godzilla away and then sunk himself with him a year later so that his soul could rest in peace. With the original Godzilla supposedly gone for good, the Shinsei Godzilla returned in Godzilla: Final Wars to beta the living out of the rest of the surviving monster which were controlled by invading aliens. He then destroyed the Alien invasion with the help of the Gotengo and returned to the ocean with his son. No one has seen him since but some say he will return within the next two years!
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I'm pretty sure that the Godzilla series has taken place within separate branch universes of the original, though. Otherwise, Destroy all Monsters would be happening around the Heisei Era, which brings up a bunch of questions. Actually, because that one takes place in the future, would that be the Showa Godzilla returning after Terror of Mechagodzilla?
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It's a complicated storyline that is not entirely explained. Destroy All Monsters was supposed to be the last movie so it was in the future but then they decided to make more so the timeline is a little out of whack... He doesn't return for the rest of the movies, he never went anywhere, it's just that the previous movie takes place in the future. Again, it's complicated...
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Also they're making a 2012 Godzilla movie so there may be another one
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No matter, Godzilla could still penetrate the AT field and he could do massive, basically guarantied fatal, damage to an angel. Godzilla is a nuclear behemoth, nuclear blasts only make him stronger! When did Spacegodzilla injure Godzilla, from what I recall (I just saw the movie!), he just got his ass kicked as crystals and nuclear energy flew! His regeneration ability is not the fastest but is extremely effective and has been hinted on several times, especially when they examined the G-cells in Godzilla 2000. Godzilla flew in Godzilla VS Hedorah in the Showa series using his atomic breath as propulsion. That was weird but his tail sliding kick move from Godzilla VS Megalon was AWESOME!
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Godzilla cannot penetrate an AT field, because he doesn't have an AT field to do so. It's impossible. There would be no polarity to reverse the effects of the first one. No matter how strong Godzilla is, it would not work.
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He could just switch tactics and use his tail to slap the Eva like a baseball. Just because it has a shield doesn't mean it's grounded.
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Hah, that's a good one but we ALL know that isn't true. Even in the series itself the AT field as been damaged or destroyed by external blows, some much weaker than what Godzilla can do, while the field was not canceled out. Take this for an example: anti-matter is the only way to destroy matter but that does not mean you need a huge chunk anti-matter to destroy a dome. With enough force, say a bomb or a wrecking ball for examples, you can destroy it. Yes, I know you can't destroy a field mad out of energy but the idea is still the same. Even though it has no matter, it still applies forces that push you back BUT if you can overcome those forces, you can push through the barrier! Newton's third law emphasizes this point!
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The only blows dealt to AT fields were by angels or evas, because they have them. If no conventional weaponry can be used against AT fields, there is nothing to indicate that Godzilla's power could, even if there was a possible force other than another AT field to cancel this out. Newton's Law does not apply because this pertains to a field of energy.
If you look at the physical aspect of this, Evas are much faster than Godzilla (look at how he moves in every movie in comparison to how fast Evas run) and they have a much wider arsenal of weaponry.
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True BUT they have been penetrated by blows that were not those of evas or angels like the positron shot the killed Ramiel; its AT Field wasn't canceled put there, huh?! Why couldn't Godzilla's energy do the same?! Exactly! It could! Godzilla easily has enough power in his Crimson Spiral Ray to penetrate even the strongest of AT Fields. And how does Newton's Third Law not apply to energy, huh?! Of course the evas are faster and have a wider rang of weaponry than Godzilla, so does the military, and everyone knows what happens when the JSDF meets Godzilla! Your arguments really aren't that strong, even the evawiki says, backing up its claim with real evidence from the anime, that AT Fields have been breached by forces besides another AT Field. I mean, seriously?!
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Newton's Third Law means nothing in this case. All that it means is that there would be a reaction after Godzilla attempts to attack an Eva. It says nothing about an AT field being neutralized or broken.
The thing about Ramiel is true, but you have to consider that the same rifle couldn't harm any other angel. Assuming that Godzilla has the power to do so without really observing the AT field is ignorant.
The JSDF isn't really a formalized military. They are incredibly limited because of post WWII reparations placed on Japan. If you compare how well armed and prepared they are in comparison to NERv, NERv outdoes them by far. The weapons are fully mechanized for Evas, and work in the same manner as human weapons, but are just much, much bigger.
Canonically, Godzilla has shed blood DOZENS of times against his enemies. He may always win, but his "armor" skin isn't that effective against other monsters. Considering how much stronger Evas are than the military, I'm pretty sure that they outrank Godzilla in offensive skill. You also have to consider how slow Godzilla is in comparison to the speed of an Eva.
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Yeah, great, fine... Newton's Third Law may not apply but that really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of the argument. If I recall, it took all the energy of Tokyo-3 to power up that one positron shot that killed Ramiel; Godzilla has all the powers of the H-BOMB within himself with easily enough raw nuclear power to fire numerous shots with equal or greater power than that one shot. Yes, it is true that nothing is as potent against matter as antimatter but technically if a shot of positron was fired, it would detonate on impact with ANY matter meaning it would self annihilate IN the gun. Unless, of course, it is shrouded in a field of plasma. Anyway, Godzilla's Crimson Spiral Ray easily has enough raw nuclear energy to penetrate and AT Field. It's blown off the head of Gigan, destroyed an entire meteor hurdling towards Earth, AND killed Kaiser Ghidorah all without barely breaking a sweat (Yeah, I know reptiles don't sweat!) Yes, of course the evas are better equipped than JSDF but that still doesn't prove your point! Yes, Godzilla has been wounded before in battle but ONLY by creatures either designed SPECIFICALLY to defeat him such as: Gigan, the Mechagodzillas, etc. The evas were not designed to face anything anywhere near as powerful as Godzilla. The evas outranking GODZILLA in offensive skills, you obviously have not seen Godzilla box. He may not be all that fast compared to the evas but that doesn't mean anything either. He's thrown monsters several times heavier than himself into orbit and across entire cities! You call that bad offensive skills?! He may not be a speed demon but his physical strength surpasses that of the evas several, Several, SEVERAL times over!
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There is no evidence that Godzilla's rays would penetrate an AT-field. The fields of Eva's are separate from those of angels, and there is a strength hierarchy for angels.
Also, speed outranks strength. Let's say that you are in a shootout. You have a revolver, and your opponent has a cannon. A heavy cannon, that must be aimed carefully and armed and takes a while to fire. Obviously, a cannon does more damage, but who wins the fight? The faster of the two. Speed is the difference between killing your enemy first, which is something Evas can do.
Godzilla has only been harmed by things specifically made to destroy him, but that is within his own canon. There clearly are other forces outside of the Godzilla universe that can destroy him, so that argument is invalid. It's not like a binding rule for Godzilla that he can only be killed by things designed to kill him. The things that are capable of killing him don't really have any common traits besides the fact that they were designed for killing him. They just are well designed monsters.
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Well, using that lodging, that would also mean that other forces, such as Godzilla's spiral ray, besides forces of the Eva universe, such as N2 mines and other AT Fields, can penetrate AT Fields! And as for your reference, even if it takes several times longer to fire cannon, if a revolver can't harm the cannon while it lauds then success is still futile.
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No, they are not the same train of logic. There is a distinct difference, actually. It is not a default rule that Godzilla can't be hurt by something other than what was designed to kill him. Everything that is capable of killing him does so with brute force, not one sort of single method, that is his only weakness. Enemies that are capable of killing Godzilla are just much more powerful and deadly because they were designed to kill them, but it is not like Superman and kryptonite. Someone like Superman cannot be harmed by something that isn't Kryptonite, because he is essentially indestructible, and kryptonite is the one element that drains him of his powers. AT fields work more like kryptonite, in which they are only neutralized by other AT fields. There is a distinct difference between the two. By saying that Godzilla can't be killed by monsters unless they were designed to kill him isn't an inherent rule to how he works, because plenty of characters from outside his canon can kill.
And your analysis of the analogy makes no sense. You shoot the person preparing the cannon, not the cannon itself. You shoot them as they are preparing it.
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But the series itself proves that's not true... the AT Field has been broken a few times by forces besides another AT Field such as that one Positron Shot (I'm not going to explain how inaccurate that is!) powered by all the energy of Tokyo. Godzilla has all the energy of several NUCLEAR BOMBS and more within him and he can hire his spiral ray several times without losing power! His final blast rays, which he would use if he realized a more simplistic beam had no effect, easily has enough power to breach and AT Field. Godzilla isn't invincible and that has been proven before in the past but neither are the evas and if anything has enough power to breach an AT Field, it's Godzilla! And other than that, the evas have no defense. Yes, they have armor plating to protect the soft-fleshed angels that hide within but Godzilla can melt metas that are specifically designed to withstand radiation just by existing so the evas protection would be very short lived! It going berserk wouldn't help either because it would just make it an uncontrollable, mindless beast that would only irritate Godzilla with full-on attacks. Godzilla has taken far worse from several of his enemies, especially DESTROYAH, another creature easily capable of crushing an eva! As for the analogy, it was somewhat flawed as well because Godzilla has no person manning him, unlike the evas and his skin, again is almost impenetrable, priceable only by a very small number of weapons. And even then, Godzilla has been pierced clean through his body by Biollante before, easily rupturing several internal organs and yet the creature continued almost unfazed! Really, there is no physical way the evas could win; the best they could do is fight to a stand still and drive the creature off but even that is unlikely! Death to the eva pilots 
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As I previously explained there is a hierarchy of angels, and thus, there is a hierarchy of AT-fields. Re-read my comment on the subject. Also, nothing you have told me has convinced me that a spiral ray is more powerful than a positron. It may contain the power of many nuclear bombs, but not that of anti-matter.
Godzilla's skin gets pierced pretty often. You say that it would be difficult to reach internal organs, but if you think about it, the skin is supposed to be his armor. The soft tissue should be easier to penetrate. The evas have a variety of piercing weapons that can penetrate Godzilla, including their vibrating knives which cut through angels (which have much more durable armor than Godzilla), and the Lance of Longinus. If Biolante could penetrate Godzilla, and eva could easily.
Again, Evas are faster, and more strategic than Godzilla. They can pull off a wider variety of attacks than Godzilla, and are capable of fighting from a lange range with the use of weapons as well as brutally at close range.
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Did you just say that Godzilla's skin is pierced pretty often... ? If you're referencing Godzilla vs Gigan (which occurred in the 70's), then you need to get with the times buddy 
As for being "strategic", that depends on the film your watching. In movies like Godzilla vs Megaguirus, GMK, and Final Wars (especially), Godzilla's intelligence is at the top of the kaiju intelligence scale
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I will admit that I haven't seen Final Wars, but it is one of the few Godzilla movies that I haven't seen. Based on what I have heard about Final Wars , Godzilla seems very powerful, and actually a planet buster. In this case, he may be stronger than an Eva. However, this is only one version of Godzilla, used in only one movie. It doesn't just take precedence over the other versions of him. This makes Godzilla a difficult character to compare to other characters, but I believe that both Showa, Heisei, and various newer (the continuity isn't as united with the more recent films, is it?) versions of Godzilla.
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Of course his beam is not as powerful as anti-matter but that doesn't mean it couldn't penetrate an AT Field and from what I know, evas don't have that strong of an AT Field to start with (you obviously have never seen Final Wars!) Godzilla's skin does not get pierced often and you got what I was trying to say wrong! Godzilla has been pierced clean through his body with no real damage done top him; his regeneration takes effect too quickly for the wounds to be even crippling! The Lance would be no problem; they stab him, he rips it from their hands, thrusts it out of his body and crushes it while his wounds heal and the evas are in a close enough range to be crushed flat! Their variety is nothing compared to the variety of attacks Godzilla has witnessed in the past so what they can pull is nothing! Again, most their attacks would either have no effect or heal too quickly to be useful! Their close-range attacks are nothing and most of their long-range weapons are easily healable, if they can even penetrate! Face it, you and the evas can't win!
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I will admit that I haven't seen Final Wars, but it is one of the few Godzilla movies that I haven't seen. Based on what I have heard about Final Wars , Godzilla seems very powerful, and actually a planet buster. In this case, he may be stronger than an Eva. However, this is only one version of Godzilla, used in only one movie. It doesn't just take precedence over the other versions of him. This makes Godzilla a difficult character to compare to other characters, but I believe that both Showa, Heisei, and various newer (the continuity isn't as united with the more recent films, is it?) versions of Godzilla. Anyway, the vast majority of Godzilla's incarnations are NOT planet busters. Maybe Godzilla at his strongest can beat an Eva, but because he is such a fractured character, I think and average or typical form of Godzilla would lose to an Eva.
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I usually take FW Godzilla into account because he was the newest version and the one most likely to meet an eva (considering both movies take place in the future.) The Showa Godzilla would probably lose to an amped eva (berserk or beast mode) but not just an average eva but since they always convert to a stronger form during battle, the point is kind of void. As for Heisei or Shinsei, I would like to disagree, especially for the later years of Heisei Godzilla (including Godzilla VS Mechagodzilla II through Godzilla VS Destroyah!) The Shinsei Godzilla as well was able to take a punch, strong enough to take a hit from the ABSOLUTE ZERO cannon DIRECTLY in the chest with only a decent scar to prove it! The evas have nothing of that power in their arsenal! And FW Godzilla, no question! This thing could crush an eva before Shinji even realized that he was screwed!
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How far into the future does FW take place? Evangelion is 2015, so I guess that makes sense, but then again, FW was only featured in one movie, and I don't think he is the first version to come to mind or many. Still, I feel that since I haven't got the chance to see Final Wars yet (for no good reason, really) I should get around to it.
I think that an Eva could beat most Heisei versions of Godzilla, basically up to Burning Godzilla, because it would destroy the atmosphere automatically, if I remember correctly. Also, I think it's harder to compare Shinsei, because there is pretty much no canon between them, right? The only two that are related are Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla and Tokyo SOS.
Now that I think about it, Godzilla is like Superman in many respects. There isn't a very consistant canon linking all of his movies together, thus making him a segmented character with various versions. With Superman, there are forms of him that are basically God-tier, and there are versions where the only possible thing that can kill him is kryptonite, but certain comics and the TV series have portrayed him in a much weaker form, especially because Doomsday was able to kill him so easily. Based on what I've recently been told, FW Godzilla is a planet buster, which I never considered, because he never really was in any other movie.
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Godzilla Final Wars is supposed to take place in 2023, several years after the angel epidemic. An eva could not be Heisei Godzilla, and definitely not Shinsei Godzilla! Now Showa Godzilla is a whole different story entirely! The later versions were forces of natures that were physically impossible to stop (the Shinsei Godzilla more so. Mechagodzilla II doesn't count because he was designed specifically to defeat the monster with the G-buster cables, something the evas don't have and Mecha King Ghidorah was only able to transport Godzilla to the ocean before he was killed as well so that doesn't count either!) The Godzilla movies do have some connectors between each one (the Showa and Heisei more so) but not that much. Godzilla does have a lot of different attributes but they all basically have the same basic abilities. FW Godzilla is a planet buster, a living hell that would put even the best of evas of angels alike to shame! This thing is literally unstoppable, the evas would have NO chance against FW Godzilla! Also, considering that every Godzilla reincarnation gets even stronger than the last, the new movie's Godzilla will probably have the strength to crush an evas under foot and not even notice it!
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I already told you the argument that something can only beat Godzilla if it was designed to is invalid. It just means that other monsters weren't strong enough, and those that did were.
Heisei Godzilla, Showa Godzilla, and Shinsei Godzilla's versions of the spiral ray aren't planet busting rays, so I doubt that they could beat an Eva, or that they would even have that much of an effect. Many monsters have shrugged off Godzilla's atomic breath. However, based on what I have been told about Final Wars Godzilla, he is a planet buster, so I will give him that. It doesn't matter if they all have the "same basic powers", because they are all on separate levels.
Also, I disagree that every Godzilla incarnation is more powerful than the last, particularly when you consider the American Godzilla. The next Godzilla incarnation will be American, and is supposed to be more realistic, so I doubt it will be anything like Final Wars Godzilla.
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Well, Mechagodzilla II was equipped with G-buster cables (something that he only has because he was designed to defeat Godzilla) and that was the only reason why he was able to win! The evas are not equipped with anything similar to that nor anything that would be very useful against Godzilla. Showa Godzilla was a true boxer and would do well in hand-to-hand combat against the evas but his atomic breath is not that strong, giving him a major flaw. The Heisei Godzilla, however, was a true force of nature with a killer instinct to destroy everything he saw! This thing had a spiral ray that made short work of creatures very similar to himself in defensive skin such as King Ghidorah and Spacegodzilla, a creature made form his OWN DNA! And don't even get me started on Burning Godzilla, that thing is unstoppable, especially if his son is killer during his rampage! With a spiral ray that puts Yellowstone magma to shame and a crimson inferno body that leaks enough pure nuclear energy to melt an eva in minutes! Then, if all hope is lost (which is impossible for Burning G), or time runs out, the creature goes on a nuclear overload and initiates meltdown, a catastrophic disaster which would destroy the planet and everything that lives upon it! Millennium Godzilla as well was a strong force of nature which was easily able to take down several creatures made from his DNA or past skeleton (Orga: a DNA blog genetic experiment which took on it's hideous form when it was fuzed with G-cells, Megaguirus: the queen of the Meganula which came to be from a strange egg, transported from a fleeing Meganula that landed in our timezone when a wormhole was created, hatched and was given the energy of Godzilla by her infectious army of Merganula, and Kiryu: a mechanical beast made form the bones of the original Godzilla!) Then FW came and that beast was the true meaning of kick-ass and unstoppability! This beats was the living essence of hell on wheels (well actually Burning Godzilla was that but this monstrosity wads just as strong, just not on the verge of nuclear overload!) What I mean by every Godzilla reincarnation is stronger than the last I mean the JAPANESE reincarnations, Zilla doesn't count! I guess you are right about the new movie but still, since FW took place in the future, FW Godzilla is still more likely to meet an eva and that would be sure win, hands down!
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That's rights, don't Fuck with the Big G!
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Angels r one thing but Godzilla scares the devil, he is a god slayer, Godzilla is mankinds greatest mistake given teeth and claws
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True that! Those evas stand no chance against Godzilla, king of the monsters and slayer of 'angels' and demons alike! Hah, see what I did there!
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Yush lol, they don't call him GODzilla for nothing
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Yah! Finally, someone who speaks english! That's exactly why they call him that, because his nuclear monstrosity makes the heavens shake! Nothing stands a chance at beating him. They (the evas) won't last 8 seconds in the city with the Big G!
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hell yeah! *fist bump*
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HELL YEAH! Don't FUCK with the BIG G!!!
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Those evas r tough but against Godzilla ... I give them an hour at most before they have been atomized
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Hah, atomized! I'm not even sure they would last that long! You known, Godzilla is pretty smart. He has done some intelligent moves before in battle. I think he would catch on to the evas power cord and then the'd be screwed!
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True he probably would see that after a while but hey if the evas can go umpteen battle with the angels without getting it ripped out then they should be able to manage a short while before Godzilla vaporizes their power supply then takes a bite out of them like he did to optimus prime
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In the end, it really matters who wins! But yah, I doubt they would last 30 minutes, if that! ...And when did Godzilla take a bite out of Optimus Prime, when did they ever even meet?!
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Look up ultimate showdown on YouTube you'll see
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Oh, OK! But I still don't see how that relates to Godzilla VS Evangelion but one thing remains clear, if they made a bloody anime about it were Godzilla beat the living shit out of the evas then hacked them to peaces, that would by frinkin' AWESOME!
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It's just funny and yes it would be freaking awesome
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Ok, but I don't think Godzilla is supposed to be funny and also, the Ultimate Showdown was/is inaccurate, in reality Godzilla would win, though they never did show him being defeated but he was never shown wining either. As for the anime, they should have done that instead of wasting their time on making Evangelion!
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I second that! Godzilla for the win!
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Yush indeed, whatever that means!
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It's randomese for yes
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