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TheWhiteDevil27 [2024-05-15 14:05:14 +0000 UTC]
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AnonymousRabbitLover [2016-10-25 23:11:01 +0000 UTC]
Exactly. I may not like Trump, but this focus on a comment he made long ago is incredibly idiotic.
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paradigm-shifting In reply to AnonymousRabbitLover [2016-10-26 18:31:48 +0000 UTC]
Indeed. I don't think Trump is trying to compete with Slick Willy for his title, anyways. lol
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AnonymousRabbitLover In reply to paradigm-shifting [2016-10-26 19:01:04 +0000 UTC]
Who is Slick Willy?
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paradigm-shifting In reply to AnonymousRabbitLover [2016-10-26 19:13:41 +0000 UTC]
Have people forgotten about the whole Bill Clinton / Monica Lewinski thing so quickly? I mean I know it was like 20 years ago, but still. Thats not that far back into history. lol
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AnonymousRabbitLover In reply to paradigm-shifting [2016-10-26 19:28:20 +0000 UTC]
I've heard of that scandal, but I was very young at the time it happened. Is Slick Willy Bill Clinton?
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paradigm-shifting In reply to AnonymousRabbitLover [2016-10-26 19:42:06 +0000 UTC]
Yes. I just thought that everyone had heard the term. Just like if someone says "George Dubbya" they know its in reference to George W Bush. They also know that saying it as "dubbya" is implying that GWB is a moron. I guess Bill Clinton isn't hated as much as GWB. lol
There are several versions of this, but heres one: www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU6ctl…
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AnonymousRabbitLover In reply to paradigm-shifting [2016-10-26 19:52:36 +0000 UTC]
That's an interesting video.
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lordcrotch [2016-10-20 18:58:53 +0000 UTC]
It's tribalism. Each side is always willing to forgive their guy out of spite for the other team. That's all it is.
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paradigm-shifting In reply to lordcrotch [2016-10-22 01:05:42 +0000 UTC]
I'd dare say its deification.
We put everything else up as gods in place of God.
We worship nations, celebrities, sports teams and it even gets as silly as Harry Potter vs Twilight or PC vs MAC. Its all "my god is better than your god, my dick is bigger than your dick".
When we worship something, we give up our ability to think critically and do anything for ourselves, and become like 3 year olds fighting with each other for the favoritism of dysfunctional parents. We've replaced the capricious Greek gods with statism, toys and bling. Its the Atlantian / Egyptian / Roman sort of mindset. The worship of tools, trinkets and social standing.
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lordcrotch [2016-10-20 18:57:15 +0000 UTC]
Trump and Clinton are basically cut from the same cloth the only real difference being that she decided to play for team left and he decided to play for team right. Neither team's plans actually fix anything. They've got one economic plan that will send us deeper into debt versus another economic plan that will send us deeper into debt. The only real difference between them is social issues.
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paradigm-shifting In reply to lordcrotch [2016-10-22 01:17:27 +0000 UTC]
In fairness, they both want to "fix" things, its just that the word "fix" is subjective.
Hillary is of the school of order out of chaos. She thinks people are the problem. She thinks war is peace, slavery is freedom and ignorance is strength. George Orwell and Aldus Huxly were not writing science fiction, they were writing about ideology and philosophy. Trying to warn us that these are the ideas that our political leaders hold. High society has become a dangerous cult. Hillary is very Machiavellian. As are those she works with and serves.
Trump has subscribed to The American Dream. Its called The American Dream because you have to be asleep, to believe it. Though he is doing his best to fight the corruptions that he is aware of, he is unaware that he has fallen for quite a few Machiavellian traps. He is very arrogant, which creates a lot of blind spots for him.
Psychopaths and Narcissists are "well intended", they just suffer from massive delusion. Even a serial killer thinks he or she is serving the greater good. They think they are embracing "what should be" and that if we all embrace "what should be" then "the worlds problems will go away".
These sorts of people have the lowest self esteem on the planet. A superiority complex is always a psychological overcompensation for an inferiority complex.
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paradigm-shifting In reply to Rodegas [2016-10-18 23:44:15 +0000 UTC]
Indeed. Also, how quickly we forget about Slick Willy, right? lol
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paradigm-shifting In reply to Rodegas [2016-10-20 18:04:41 +0000 UTC]
Bill Clinton. The guy who cheated on Hillary with Monica Lewinski (among many others).
Google it.
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Rodegas In reply to paradigm-shifting [2016-10-20 18:39:58 +0000 UTC]
Oh, I know about that.
Next time I'm voting Republican Democrats left a bad taste in my mouth!
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paradigm-shifting In reply to Rodegas [2016-10-20 19:17:18 +0000 UTC]
Both are two wings of the same bird controlled by Wall Street. The illusion of choice. Theater for the masses.
But do as you wish, of course. I never vote at all.
The game is rigged, so whats the point?
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Rodegas In reply to paradigm-shifting [2016-10-21 13:41:04 +0000 UTC]
Yes, two party system is ridiculous, but it is similar all over the world...
Maybe in some scandinavian Countries and Switzerland there is Democraci but not much here... Our government just gets envelope how to vote from special interest that are funding their campaing they do not represent people. But, sometime some anti-system parties get so maybe it can change here.
Umm, it was this joke : pbs.twimg.com/media/A4Umk1xCcA…
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paradigm-shifting In reply to Rodegas [2016-10-22 01:21:18 +0000 UTC]
Politics is theater for the masses to provide the illusion of choice. In truth, we vote more with our dollars than we do at the polls. If people would do more research into what corporations are doing what, we could stop giving our money to the ones doing what we don't like, forcing them to change. Corporations don't survive on hugs and kisses, take away their money and they die.
Nations are nothing more than corporate subsidiary franchises, and we have all fallen for the scam.
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kessy-athena [2016-10-15 08:56:09 +0000 UTC]
Tell you what - after a dirty old man kisses you out of the blue and grabs your groin, then you can laugh it off as just a dirty joke.
America - also the land where most people don't assume that murderers and criminals are synonymous with people with dark skin and recognize a paper thin excuse to throw Latinos out of the country for what it is.
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paradigm-shifting In reply to kessy-athena [2016-10-16 06:21:44 +0000 UTC]
And when I see EVIDENCE of these things rather than just accusations -- I'll fully agree with you. I'm a big fan of requiring EVIDENCE. I'm also neither for nor against Trump. I think politics is a joke. But I'm not going to just blindly believe things without hard evidence. And if anyone wants to be mad at me for that -- fine by me. And it makes my point perfectly.
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kessy-athena In reply to paradigm-shifting [2016-10-16 08:59:14 +0000 UTC]
Well, all I have to say is that when someone responds to, "You are one (a sexual predator)!" with, "Yeah, it's true," I'm generally going to believe them. Besides, it's not like anyone is actually surprised by any of this. I mean, Trump is the guy who acted like it was his mission to single-handedly keep the supermarket tabloids in business back in the 80's and 90's. He's been cultivating a reputation as a player and a pig for decades. The suggestion that Trump is a groper is about as shocking as suggesting that Pablo Escobar didn't always pay his taxes.
It is simply a lie that immigrants are more violent than native born Americans. If anything, the evidence is that they're less likely to be involved in crime.
www.usatoday.com/story/news/na…
www.washingtonpost.com/news/th…
www.wsj.com/articles/the-mythi…
And violent crime in general is half what it was 20 years ago.
www.brennancenter.org/blog/ame…
And well, falsely accusing a group of being violent and criminal by definition racism. This is exactly the same sort of thing that in earlier generations was thrown at Eastern Europeans, Italians, Irish, and others. When my great great grandparents arrived in the US from Ireland, they were called "White Negros" and were met with these sorts of attitudes. Look familiar at all? (Incidentally, an infernal machine is what a terrorist bomb was called in the 19th century.)
And it's really ironic that you should use an image of the Statue of Liberty for this. Remember her inscription.
Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
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paradigm-shifting In reply to kessy-athena [2016-10-16 15:43:24 +0000 UTC]
Unfortunately, you've only provided me a perspective, not evidence.
Lets take the Donald Trump video clip for example. The clip is too short and any short clip can be taken completely out of context. Americans have become, in general these days -- literalism extremists, with virtually no comprehension of humor or sarcasm. If you took all of the things I personally have said in sarcastic and mocking tones making fun of other things, other people and making fun of myself -- you could basically convict me for not only every problem that has ever happened on this Earth for all time, but also convict me of being an immortal extra terrestrial from another planet engaged in the largest intergalactic conspiracy to ever exist.
Me personally, I've been accused over the years of some of the most ridiculous things, most of which border on science fiction. My default response to these things, is to mockingly admit that "its true" and then go into this deep monologue of ridiculousness about it, pretending to back it with extreme nonsense pseudo-facts. These accusations, both in person and online, tend to come from people who don't even know me with whom I have zero experience with, who just don't like my attitude and got offended by something or another that I said.
I've been accused of being a rapist, pedophile, racist, in communication with extra terrestrials, of being an extra terrestrial myself, of being in league with Satan, of being a member of the Illuminati, of being a government-paid shilll, of being a psyop, of being a Fundamentalist Christian (accused by atheists), of being a New Ager (accused by conspiracy nuts), of being a Conspiracy Nut, of being a conservative (accused by liberals), of being a liberal (accused by conservatives), of being a "negative low vibrational dark person" (accused by delusional new agers), accused of being an artificial intelligence bot script that doesn't exist as a human being in actual reality (despite the fact that there is years worth of audio and video of me speaking online and you can clearly see and hear that I do indeed exist), I've been accused of being a master of mind controlling people (when someone disagrees with me and then someone else responds in agreement with me, because apparently anyone who agrees with me must only be doing so because I have magical mind control powers, as this must be the only logical option), I've been accused of everything but blamed for the weather but I'm sure someone will blame the worlds climate on me eventually.
My default response is to pretend to agree with these people in a mocking way and then go into a massive monologue of as ridiculous of an explanation as I can think of, backing it with "because unicorns, for no reason, because they said so, and this is all the proof required".
Trump is known for doing this exact same thing. I'm not saying Trump isn't a bastard, I'm not saying he is. I'm just saying that most people these days seem to think that heresay and small clips taken out of context, somehow count as evidence against someone. So if these are evidence that Trump is guilty, then theres more than enough evidence to convict me for being the cause of every problem that has ever existed in all of known human history.
As for the rest of what you said, to me both sides of the argument are operating on a massive logical fallacy. It is equally true that we have unsecured borders as it is equally true that it is not required of a criminal to not be born in the USA. There are just as many local-born criminals as there are criminals born in another country. As far as I can tell, Trump just wants to put in a system of immigration, checks and balances where as currently none exist. I've never heard him say that he wants to send all Latinos out of the country. Thats ridiculous and I've seen Latinos speak in favor of Trump and against this heresay campaign, as I have seen Latinos speak in favor of the heresay against Trump.
In my opinion, our entire system has become completely corrupt and the American people have become apathetic. No one is interested in the truth, no one is interested in fixing problems -- they just want to divide themselves into factions of opinion, spout shit at each other and fight each other until all of this frackus reaches its final stupidity.
In my experiences, most people who scream about racism, are racists themselves. Most people who scream about sexism, are sexist themselves. The bullies always claim to be the victims. And most victims become bullies.
As I already said -- anyone who wants to get mad at me for pointing these sorts of things out, I truly, genuinely and sincerely -- don't mind. I'm used to it. It just leads to me getting accused of things by strangers who don't even know me and as I've said, I've already been blamed for everything but the weather. So why should I mind one more mindless accusation from one more person? Its a big list. No big deal however many more add to the list or jump on that bandwagon. I sincerely do not mind. People are going to think whatever it is they are going to think. That is their right to do so.
"The farther a society drifts from truth, the more they will hate those who speak it" -George Orwell
Life is 10% what happens to us and 90% how we respond to it, and the more we are addicted to fear -- love becomes our greatest enemy.
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kessy-athena In reply to paradigm-shifting [2016-10-16 22:45:02 +0000 UTC]
And I keep forgetting to say this:
Even though sometimes it feels like we're living in a bad dark comedy, politics isn't actually a joke. Remember that the President has an awful lot of power, and the Congress more so. The President still has virtually unfettered authority to launch the US's nuclear arsenal at any time. I know that people who don't remember the Cold War don't take it seriously, but we really are balanced on the knife's edge all the time. What would happen if a group with outright malicious intent were to take power? Think about all the things that could go badly wrong if the government isn't run with at least a minimum of responsibility. The economy could crash, throwing millions of people out of work. And there's all the government functions that most of us never notice - until something goes wrong with them.
As much as it feels like politics is nothing but an out of control circus, it can have really serious consequences.
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paradigm-shifting In reply to kessy-athena [2016-10-16 22:50:10 +0000 UTC]
As true as that is -- I have had enough experience and seen enough evidence to know that Wall Street controls it all. Everything is bought and paid for. Democrats and Republicans are two wings of the one same bird. People think that these different political groups are somehow different because we're naive enough to believe any yarn they might want to spin. But they're all the same. Working for the same masters. All following the same agendas. The old boss is the new boss, as the old saying goes.
Theres nothing anyone can say to me online that can convince me otherwise. And likewise, I know there is nothing I can say to anyone online to get them to see just how badly they've been played.
This is why the only solution, isn't a political one. When enough of us can decide to drop our addiction to victimization and instead work together for the common good, the politicians will have less and less power until the time comes that we take it back. Until then, we'll keep living Einstein's definition of insanity.
Theres nothing you can tell me that can convince me otherwise and nothing I can tell you that will convince you otherwise.
I am merely admitting how I feel just as a show of being honest. I know I can not convince another human being, of anything. We see the world as we are, not as it is.
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kessy-athena In reply to paradigm-shifting [2016-10-17 13:42:15 +0000 UTC]
I respect your honesty, and I neither take nor mean any of this personally. I have no problem with agreeing to disagree. Are you saying you don't really want to debate the point? If so, that's fine, I'll leave it be, no hard feelings. ^_^
I do want to say that for the most part I agree with your observations, but I think you're interpreting those observations in an overly cynical manner.
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paradigm-shifting In reply to kessy-athena [2016-10-26 18:49:38 +0000 UTC]
I do not like debates, because debate is to win at all costs. I prefer conversations and sharing data. I think that conversation and debates are to polar opposite ideas.
Cynicism means, to be completely closed to all other ideas that are out side of ones belief system, being unwilling to look at any other data that might contradict that belief. That is not me, I am not cynical.
I am saying that I've done a decade of research, looking at data from all sides of each argument -- just wanting to know what the truth is. I have also had my own real life in person physical reality experiences. None of this is something I can prove, because I am a human and when a human speaks about their experiences, this is not evidence -- this is a person making a claim of something.
What goes up must come down. Gravity. There is evidence for that and anyone can prove gravity exists in the privacy of their own home. Not all data is so easy to prove, nor easy to prove so quickly. Unless a person has done A LOT of *unbiased* research, then its hard to explain things to such a person. That doesn't make the person bad or naughty, it just makes things hard to explain.
I also don't think that doing full research on something should be forced on anyone. Majority has never created change and majority has never ruled. 4% of the population creates all change, everyone else just follows the currently accepted memes. I'm not implying that this is good or bad. What I am saying is, it doesn't require a majority to create global positive change, just as it never required a majority to create global negative change. So if someone isn't interested in researching into something, it does not mean their lives will be ruined or the Earth will explode. There will always be more than enough people to create positive change. It just takes time, as all good things do.
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kessy-athena In reply to paradigm-shifting [2016-10-27 14:20:11 +0000 UTC]
Actually, that's not what cynicism means. It's certainly not the way I meant it. Cynicism is the belief that people are usually selfish and dishonest and that human behavior is mostly motivated by greed, self-interest, and generally the worst aspects of human nature. So, for example, suppose a representative of a large corporation has a meeting with a member of Congress to discuss a pending bill that would effect that corporation's industry. You could see that as corrupt influence peddling, of corporate interests trying to write the laws for their own benefit. You could also see that as a group of citizens exercising their right to petition the government and explain their concerns to their elected representatives. The former is much more cynical. (This is meant only as an illustration - of course in real life there would likely be other circumstances that would suggest one interpretation over the other.)
Anyway, I get that you're coming at this from a very different perspective and that you're not real inclined to go into a lot of depth about what formed your perspective for a casual conversation. That's fine and I will try to limit talking about things that would touch on that.
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paradigm-shifting In reply to kessy-athena [2016-10-28 02:59:17 +0000 UTC]
I do not hold the belief that people are usually selfish and dishonest and that human behavior is mostly motivated by greed, self-interest, and generally the worst aspects of human nature. I believe in what science has already proven about it, and it is something that most people don't know about because most people aren't inclined to research it. The only default operating system of human nature, is to survive in its environment by way of adapting to that environment through emulating it. This idea has no bias towards good nor evil. If an environment is benevolent, then human nature will adapt to that environment by emulating benevolence. If an environment is malevolent, the human will adapt by emulating malevolence. This is by no means cynical. It means we can be the change we want to create and there is nothing genetic, ideological or anything else for that matter, which can prevent us from rendering positive change and inspiring positive change. The only thing we can not do, is convince or force others to see, think, feel or believe in any way that they do not wish to choose to. Attempts at force activate the fight or flight mechanism and the person will simply defend their existing paradigm as the mind closes. This is why a lot of so-called "truthers" are doing the opposite of what they are intending and are closing more minds than they are opening. Just like nobody likes a pushy salesman up in their face, its the same sort of idea.
I believe humanity is caught in a psychological meme of dysfunction right now. I do not believe that it is cynical, bad, wrong or negative to say so -- anymore than it is cynical, bad, wrong or negative to admit when there are roaches in the walls. Being willing to face a problem opens the door to forming solutions for it, the better we understand it. The more we stick our heads in the sand and move away from the opportunities that understandings can provide us, the more we perpetuate the problems instead of solving them.
I am very inclined to go into a lot of depth about what formed my perspectives and I've got 6 years worth of Paradigm Shift an Educational Comedy episodes worth of doing exactly that. The problem is that I can't force anyone to understand what I'm talking about. It sounds completely insane to those who have not done the research or had the experience, and because people are addicted to clinging to their paradigms and are not willing to understand things outside of those -- I can not fault nor judge people for acting like this. I do not blame them. It is very understandable as to why they would. I hold no animosity nor contempt towards them.
I have tried to explain why its difficult for me to explain, using as many metaphors as I can to make my point. It is very unfortunate that you have taken my points to their polar opposite, but again -- it is also understandable. I am just thankful that you are very civil and rational in the way you agree to disagree, instead of having an instant reaction of taking offense.
I am extremely used to people taking what I say to its extreme polar opposite. In the past, I used to feel extremely victimized by this and it created a lot of self-doubt and self-loathing inside of me. But as I learned to understand how and why this happens, it has become easier and easier to remove my judgments against myself and others, and to forgive myself and others and have more compassion towards myself and others. The people who do not take me to my polar opposite have asked me "Dave, why have you been here on dA for 11 years, and have so much amazing content, and yet have less than 500 watchers?" to which I respond "If you keep in mind the sorts of things I express, how I express them and the current state of the world -- the answer is self evidence" to which they reply "yeah, true".
You can ask me anything and I'll do my best to answer. Sometimes that answer will be an attempt to explain, other times the answer will be an attempt to explain why I do not know how to explain something to you. But not knowing how to explain something to you, does not mean that I have never explained myself at all. If you dive into my art, into my journals and into my videos you will see I've done quite a bit of explaining. Most of it will probably seem completely insane to you, but thats alright.
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kessy-athena In reply to paradigm-shifting [2016-11-06 12:47:34 +0000 UTC]
I think it's more useful to think of cynicism in terms of a spectrum: at one end is the sort of maximalist interpretation of the definition of the term, and at the other... hmmmm, what would be a good term for the other end of the spectrum? Extreme naivete, perhaps? Anyway, for the most part I'd talk about things being more or less cynical, that is closer to one end of the spectrum or the other. so when I say that your take on things tends to be a bit more cynical than mine, I'm not trying to say that you believe that humans are fundamentally bad or anything like that. I'm just trying to express what I see as a fairly small difference in degree.
So, for example, do you recall Hillary Clinton's (in)famous statement from the 90's about a vast right wing conspiracy out to get her and her husband? I think that the basic sentiment she was trying to express is essentially correct, but she put it in overly cynical terms. I don't think there are many people who'd dispute that there are a lot of people on the political right who simply hate both Clintons and who will do whatever they can to diminish their public influence. But I wouldn't describe that as a conspiracy. When you have a lot of people motivated by the same feelings and the same circumstances, they will often act in a way that seems to be coordinated, even though it's really a self-organizing thing and does not require active collusion. My tendency is to use a rule of thumb like the old saying, never attribute to malevolence what can be adequately explained by incompetence. Or accident, inattention, etc.
I know very well that my entire perspective is wrong. As is everyone else's. No matter how much we learn the universe is always bigger and more complicated than we can ever express with mere ideas. Knowledge id fundamentally symbolic in nature. We use mental images to model the world around us, but they're only models. You can't cram the actual universe itself into your head. So I know that all of my ideas will prove inaccurate or inadequate in some way to some degree at same point. Sometimes in a disturbingly dramatic fashion. I've had my entire world view turned on its head before and it taught me to be more humble about different ideas and different ways of looking at the world. And hey, who knows? I could turn out to be completely wrong about something. It's certainly happened before and I'd be shocked if it doesn't happen again.
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paradigm-shifting In reply to kessy-athena [2016-11-06 14:55:04 +0000 UTC]
I've always been more to the center or middle where as the vast majority of people tend to swing right or left. This is why the people on the far left think I am far right, and the people on the far right think I am far left. Because I am able to agree with some points both have, disagree with other points both have and my more middle center points confuse both sides.
I think the word conspiracy is romanticized too much. All the word means, is two or more people have a plan to carry out a task together. I could conspire to goto lunch with a friend and it is indeed a conspiratorial act. I think people are too quick to hype and less quick to calmly explore the native language they assume they know how to speak, but hey -- a parrot can know how to speak. Understanding is an entirely different matter.
The difference between a human and a parrot is that a parrot can't understand where as a human simply chooses not to learn because the information is too emotionally inconvenient.
The very definition of malevolence is a society run by incompetence, accident and inattention. Just as the word ignorance is IGNORE-ANCE. To willfully ignore data because it is too emotionally inconvenient. When people care less about environmental ruin, war, genocide, organized crime, etc and care more about who won a sports game, that is malevolence. Its apathy. Its incompetence. In its nature it is accident prone. It is the poster child of inattention. A rose by any other name. This sort of society can not help but by default breed an environment in which organized crime rules the world. Its not rocket science. Its like saying if you don't clean a turtle tank the water will get nasty and eventually the turtles will die. It is the not so common, common sense that people should have, but don't. Therefore, we're learning it the hard way right now, but at least we're learning -- albeit painfully and at great cost.
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kessy-athena In reply to paradigm-shifting [2016-10-16 20:44:19 +0000 UTC]
Fortunately, I'm not accusing you of being an extraterrestrial. Actually, would that even really be an accusation? I mean, if you were, so what? LOL
Anyway, we're talking about Donald Trump, not some random person on the internet like you or me. He's been in the public eye for going on 40 years now, and this is not an isolated incident but a pattern of behavior. For example, his first wife Ivana accused him of marital rape, but withdrew her statement to keep it out of the courts. I have no interest in celebrities, so I never paid much attention to trump before he ran for President, but even I know his reputation. Normally I wouldn't care, but it becomes a bit more important when we're talking about the Presidency. And remember, we are not talking about the sort of evidence you'd need to prosecute him. If that sort of evidence were available, he'd be under arrest. We're talking about whether this is a person we should listen to and invest great power in. I don't know if Trump actually committed sexual assault or not, but if he has that would be completely in character with his public persona. And I don't think that someone who seems like a person who easily could have committed such crimes should be President.
No, Trump never said that he's going to deport all Latinos in the US, and I never meant to imply that he did. He has said that he wants to deport all 11 million or so undocumented immigrants. So the question is why? Well, for Trump personally, I'd wager it's because it gets him cheering crowds. But that's not really the question. There are millions of people in the US who do want to deport all those people. Obviously, each and every one of those people has their own personal reasons. And probably a lot of them have nothing at all to do with any policy reasons. People who support the idea because all their peers do, people who've just gotten caught up in the excitement, and so on and so on. But for people to get swept along with a movement, there has to be something motivating it in the first place. That's what we need to examine.
As I already demonstrated, the idea that illegal aliens are a bunch of violent criminals is just false. It's also false that immigrants take jobs from native born workers. Every credible source says so from across the political spectrum, from Brookings to Cato to AEI. About the only group that's pushing a different narrative is the Center for Immigration Studies, which has links to out and out hate groups. As for securing the border, there is a simple and easy way to do that - start issuing enough long term visas to meet the demand. If all the immigrants are coming in legally and getting background checks, then the only people sneaking over the border will be smugglers, criminals, and others that we legitimately want to keep out. They'll be a lot easier to catch when they don't have a flood of immigrants to hide in. And no, immigrants don't get welfare. If you want undocumented immigrants paying regular income taxes then give them green cards and social security numbers.
So what's left? When the arguments put forward to support a policy are all so easily shot full of holes, what does that say? And when the people supporting that policy vehemently reject a cheap, simple, and easy way to solve the problems they claim to be worried about, what does that say?
Like I said originally, this is a paper thin excuse for trying to throw a lot of Latinos out of the country.
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paradigm-shifting In reply to kessy-athena [2016-10-16 22:40:43 +0000 UTC]
All of this still leaves me back at square one.
The sad reality is, as I said -- the entire system is completely corrupt from top to bottom. It really doesn't matter who is president anymore than it matters who is mafia don. Multi-national corporations control most (if not all) governments. Politicians are puppets for the corporations. Most if not all (I don't like speaking in absolutes but we can probably be pretty confident that all, to some extent at least) politicians are corrupt in various ways. Expecting a political leader who isn't corrupt is like expecting a wasp that doesn't sting. Its not going to happen.
Usually the words "credible source" are synonymous with who has the most money and capability for political spin. People have been brain washed into throwing their own discernment out the window, and just believing whomever can present themselves as "a professional" or "authority". Any honest company that does anything with statistics will tell you that there is no such thing as accurate statistics. There are just too many people and too much margin for error. They do studies on a minority of a demographic and assuming that their studies were done accurately and completely correct (which is pretty much impossible) they take their results and just assume that study to also be true for the majority of the population. Thats how that business is done and anyone in that field who is willing to provide an honest answer about it, will tell you this.
This is also how its possible for extremely popular shows to get canceled due to "extremely poor ratings" and shows that most people don't like, can remain on the air forever with so-called "high ratings".
We the people are the majority and the criminals who run this world, the minority. The criminals who run this world are able to get away with all of the things they do, with our consent.
I wrote a journal on this exact topic today:
[short rant] When Is Enough ENOUGH?
Am I the only one getting really sick of the blame game in this world? Am I the only one fed up enough to talk about it?
Russia this. Syria that. Iran this. ISIS that. Geopolitical Banksters this, Illuminati that. Donald Trump this, Hillary Clinton that. Liberals this, Conservatives that. Blah blah blah. As equally TRUE as ALL SIDES of these arguments ARE, has anyone ever stopped to consider LOOKING IN THE MIRROR for where to place the blame? Is everyone so hateful and hopeless that they won't stop for a second to think that maybe everyone deserves what everyone has been getting?
I don't mean "deserves" from a "moral" standpoint, I mean it as far as physics and consequences. Water is wet. Rocks are hard. Fire burns. He (or she) who fucks up, gets fucked. Consequences, you know?
The psychopaths who rule this world are the extreme minority. The rest of us, are the majority. WE LET THEM DO THE THINGS TO US
The same tactics that prey upon people's apathy and narrow mindedness that were used by the Nazis to dominate Germany, are the same ones being used today by those in power today. The classic tactics always work, because we've not yet learned from history and therefore, it repeats.
As long as the minds of the people are addicted to the blame game, fear and hate -- all while acting like this with genuinely the "best of intentions" -- we're going to keep having the problems we've been having. Until people on all sides can drop the hate and start working together -- then if we always do what we've always done, we'll always get what we've always gotten.
So I really don't care what mafia don the [s]electoral collage chooses to be put into power, or what Wall Street bought and paid for statistics marketing companies claim most people in whatever demographic supposedly are or are not. Until the hearts and minds of the people get back on track, its all going to be same shit different day no matter what the topics of debate are or are not. It will all lead to the same result, regardless of who is or is not right about what. Because we value being "right" over being compassionate.
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Stump8 [2016-10-15 08:14:12 +0000 UTC]
While I agree that Clinton's actions aren't getting nearly enough attention, I doubt people are mad because of a dirty joke. The language Trump used borders on suggesting sexual assault. It sounds creepy.
Unfortunately, our news media tells people what to be enraged about, and they're all behind the Clintons. It's a stacked race.
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