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Edit: Comments disabled, because everyone involved in this drama is an idiot, including myself. I could have handled this better, and for that, I apologize. However, my original comments , I am not sorry for, nor will I apologize for them. You're free to approve or disapprove I really couldnt care less.
OPINIONS ARE LIKE BUTT HOLES. EVERYONE HAS ONE.
Also, people who think I made this pikachu explicitly to troll that group, joke's on you, I've had this guy for nearly 4 years ahahaha-shot-
Minorly edited, of course, but you get the idea.
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brb, illustrating a point.
I apologize in advance for the flame war this may or may not generate.
Also, if yall are gonna get all butthurt at me because I wanted to have a little fun, sue me, its not my fault people feel the need to post nasty comments. :3
It is, however, my fault for posting this knowing full well what was going to come of it. Oh well.
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Edit: Scrapped because it's poorly done, and I dont need this atrocity cluttering up my profile. :3
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Whoops, nevermind. Just read the description. It's amazing what those things can hold!
I find that this entire situation (as are with most things involving creativity / originality / copyright) seems a bit out of proportion. I can understand someone pointing out that the cyberchu concept isn't original, but the continuous stream of insults from BOTH sides seems a bit ridiculous and overblown.
Although me joining in on this little flame war doesn't really prove myself any better than them, so...yea.
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Thank you l3
Surprising to see you here yet not, but at this point I don't know what to say about both sides.
Well, ... that is different to what has already been said :1....
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Really, if everyone were to just calmly attempt to solve this little situation instead of throw insults here and there, then everything will just disappear.
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I don't even know what this is about...could you please give me the basic rundown of this?
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AND THEN HILARITY ENSUED.
I used to like these little Cyberchu things a while ago, but started to not pay attention to them. I feel pretty bad for that Wi-fi Cyberchu I saw on the front page of the group, it's just not fair that these guys are reporting fan art of fan art. :C
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Ah, people get mad at the strangest things. 
There will no doubt be a ton of flaming on this piece, but at least you stood up for your views on the issue.
And aside from my rant, I really do like this piece. The swooshy hairdo is my favorite part of the character. It looks so soft. OwO
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I can understand where you're coming from, but I'm disappointed in how you're handling this.
...actually, I'm disappointed in how all of you are handling this. I mean, I get both sides of the story; they made the Cyberchu's as a fun little thing that they and their friends could take part of, so I can understand if they feel annoyed when some random person wants to join in on a "friends only"-type group. And I can understand you telling them off for believing that they own the Cyberchus(even though Cyberchu is just a redesigned Pikachu and therefore isn't 100% owned by them) and getting onto other people about making look-a-likes.
I'm not taking any sides here, as I look up to both you and *Staarii (seriously, I freakin love both of your guys' work, and it saddens me to see my favorite artists fighting), but I'm sure that there could've been a better way to deal with this?
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Well, it didnt need to end up that way, buuuut its not my fault she thought I was "attacking" someone by telling them the truth.
So sorry to disappoint you. Not to sound rude or anything, which I know I will anyways by saying this, but I dont really care. I dont have to live up to anybody's expectations of how a "proper" way to handle someone calling me an idiot and an ass simply because I pointed out FACTS.
If they want to claim copyright to something strictly for a small group of people, more power to them, but they need to be more creative. You can't tell anybody what they can't draw, and that's that.
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No it's not rude. Like I said before, I can understand where you're coming from and I agree with what you're saying. Sure, I do wish things could have turned out differently, what's happened has happened and there's not much else anyone can do about it now. But that's just life, I suppose~
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Indeed. So everyone needs to just get over it, because it really is stupid. :3
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I was expecting there to be toast in the visor xD
Of course, if they're going to use a well known, very popular character for this sort of thing, then they better expect this sort of thing to happen often. It's not okay to be that protective over something like that.
I mean, if they really wanted it to be special, they could convert it to something original. I know, I've tried(successfully).
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I agree, and I've even SUGGESTED that to them.
But nope. Flawed logic and popularity is apparently more important to them than avoiding criticism.
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mhmm.
Internet Popularity seems to be a wall that keeps common sense out.
And a rather thick one at that.
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I am so lost. You think being on the internet for a couple of years would be enough. O.o
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...Golly. o:,
I am compelled to chip in on this matter. ,:3
First of all, you are totally in the right, of this there is no doubt.
Your response is also suitably hilarious. ,x3
Frankly, I find this whole Cyberchu thing bizarre, and, having glanced
over the comments on the group in question, find their replies to be a
little lacking in the "making sense" factor. ,:v
But you could have handled this better, despite not being the one that
sparked off the argument.
However, I can see that the oppurtunity was too good to pass up, and
I probably wod've done the same. x3;
oh shoot i wrote a whole essay again
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Technically, I DID spark the argument.
But it only turned into trollan when the one person tried to insult my intelligence for being right.
Then it just got funny.
Hehe. x3
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:3
Oh what.
How did I typo "would've" so badly? o3o
NOOOOOO MY PERFECT SPELLING RECORD NOOOOOO
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The person who made cyberchus needs to calm dem tits. You don't see the people who MADE pokemon going apeshit about the fancharacters.
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I know, that was a point I brought up in my original non-snarky comments to the group page itself.
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Oh, deviantART.
One half is full of copy-yeah-rights making minor changes to a trademarked design, the other full of trolls who see themselves as knights in shining armor to fight them off.
Legitimate artists looking to improve their skills are lost somewhere in the translation.
Oh, deviantART.
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Wow, they were just rude >:U Seriously, you can't claim to own an idea that derived from something else. Even the NAME gives it away. Like, yeah, if everyone was copying something special to them, you'd have a right to get angry, but if you made a fan group, advertised it, gave them away and got angry because someone made one? That's just absolutely ridiculous. And it appears the way they are going around dealing with it is...immature, to say the least.
You show 'em.
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I concur.
But oh well. :3
Haha
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Well, have fun dealing with it xD
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"Cyberchu." Wat.
You have a talent for making really good points, don't you? To bad that the silly children who make things like this and tell others that they may not use them are usually around my age group.
Nice drawing by the way. Derp. C:
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I dunno. I guess? IF YOU SAY SO.
Indeed. Indeed.
Thanks. :u
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Niiiiiice. XD
I agree with this whole situation completely. Like, why should someone be harassed for their own creativity to make their own? It's just silly. I actually had to convince a friend of mine to stop drawing a Riolu like this because someone else had apperently copyright'd the idea, where Pikachu's had visors on their faces and such. I wasnt sure if they'd bash other people for using that idea on other Pokemon, but ehh. Diddnt want to risk it.
Afterwards though she thought it wasnt very original of her to use that idea anyway. Lol
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Pfft, you can't copyright visor glasses.
Thats like someone saying "I INVENTED SPARKLEDOGS SO I'M THE ONLY ONE ALLOWED TO MAKE SPARKLE DOGS."
And then proceeding to troll everyone who has a rainbow elephant character.
Does not compute.
Anyways, you can't copyright something that already belongs to someone else, and you can't copyright ideas. You can copyright CHARACTERS and CHARACTER DESIGNS, but not if it's obviously supposed to be based on characters that already exist.
But jhsfbws why am I rambling about this
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I lol'd at sparkle elephants. XD Good point though. I'll inform my friend that later, so maybe she can use that Riolu character afterall. XD (But since she said it wasnt very original in the first place then I dunno lol)
... I totally want to draw a sparkle elephant now oh god lol
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NOPE MY IDEA AND I MAED ELEPHANTS SO YOU CANT.
No. That was a joke. jsdhf
You should, I would get a good giggle out of it. :U
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I don't get it, if these chus were made for "Fun" then why do they get some pissed if a Fan makes something similar. >>
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Yeah, exactly, its not like THEY OWN PIKACHU
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god SO* X'D never type something after rolling out of bed
they did the same with glowing chus. Besides if you don't want it taken then you shouldn't put it on the net. If kids like the look and Idea, they are going to make something similar, no matter if you like it or not.
though you shouldn't care in the first place since they don't own pokemon its already a trademark, no matter how you dress it up.
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Haha, I know the feeling all too well!
I agree. I know that makes me incredibly hypocritical, cause of my opinions about my own creatures, but honestly, I wouldnt harass someone if they did make their own thing out of my characters. So long as I am credited SOMEWHERE I don't think I'd say anything negative about it, but I digress.
I know I shouldnt care, but they can't just bend copyright laws to their wills, and they certainly can't tell people what they are and are not allowed to draw. And the part that bothers me about it most is that they actually HARASS people into taking down their fan characters, and that is not cool.
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thats horrible.. and I seen the page where they had a convo about attacking someone with a Wi-fi chu? =C that poor kid.
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Yeah, I feel bad for that person, and anyone else that was subjected to that kind of treatment.
Its just wrong, and I don;t approve.
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Yeah, I'm about to step on toes on both sides of this little snit now. Yay, me.
I agree that it's pretty asinine to slap circuit boards and a visor on Pikachu, claim it's your "original creation," and threaten to take action against anyone who dares to make an unauthorized fan character of your fan species.
But it's not much better to expend time and energy on parody drawings of said absurdity, and then post them where they'll do nothing but create more drama.
This whole thing is so immature it's painful, and I hate to see people I have a level of respect for mucking around in it.
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Sorry I guess.
Well, not really, but to you at least.
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This just strikes me as... below you, if that's not too cliche a way to put it. :<
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Well, sorry to disappoint you then.
I am not better than anyone else tho, so I dont know why you'd think that.
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It just seems like an ugly thing to feed, is all.
Still, looking at the comments here and on the group's front page, I'd say leave this up now it's been posted. For whatever my opinion's worth. :U They /do/ need to learn that they've got no grounds for harassing people like they've been.
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I wasnt gonna take it down anyways.
I just wanted to show them that their claims are rediculous, and granted, I DID know that this drawing would generate drama, really, that wasnt the point of me doing it. x3
IT JUST TURNED INTO THAT because some people think they can bend the rules to their wills, when in reality, then can not.
Its just unrealistic.
But yeah, that said, things did get a little out of hand, and although I did rather enjoy it, I admit that I was not being mature. At all. And I will take responsibility for that, but I don't regret it.
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Hopefully the lesson sinks in. c:
I'm tired and should probably stop talking now. Heh.
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I used to enjoy trollin in flames wars but then I took an arrow in the knee.
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