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Description Trying to make Photoshop look like traditional media is really difficult. Any tips?
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JesHansen [2014-04-16 21:47:18 +0000 UTC]

Use Painter!

You can come really close to the traditional media.ย 
Even impasto is possible !

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Emerson-Fialho [2014-03-13 02:16:20 +0000 UTC]

Wonderful...

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gwdill [2010-03-13 15:35:56 +0000 UTC]

Keep up the great work!

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urban-barbarian [2010-03-06 03:25:40 +0000 UTC]

Looks pretty sweet!

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IgorSan [2010-03-03 23:29:11 +0000 UTC]

It is,but you're doing a great job

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sphynx-c [2010-03-02 04:22:20 +0000 UTC]

no tips from me.
looks traditional as far as I can tell.
and fantastic!

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PiratoLoco In reply to sphynx-c [2010-03-02 09:27:36 +0000 UTC]

Thank you...it is hard some times to not make things look plastic in photoshop for myself. This one just didn't sit well with me for some reason. But I am glad you dig it!!

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sphynx-c In reply to PiratoLoco [2010-03-10 00:55:50 +0000 UTC]

I can understand that, but yeah, it works for me.
keep up the great work.

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dallasrobinson [2010-02-27 00:42:46 +0000 UTC]

I dunno if this will help you but I make my own brushed in photoshop from scanned ink blots I make on wet and dry paper. I kinda find that what your brush is based on at the start highly effects the end looks. So natural in kinda gets you natural out.

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DC-Tiki [2010-02-26 06:00:56 +0000 UTC]

I've also recently been trying to figure out how to make photoshop look like more traditional painting techniques [link] I've simply been playing around with the basic brush settings which I'm guessing you've already done to get the streaky lines look to your own work. I've also just been splashing painterly textures onto the canvas and then paitning over the top of them so that sometimes they come thru the overcoats and sometimes not. If you find any cool methods or techniques please do share!!

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PiratoLoco [2010-02-26 00:09:57 +0000 UTC]

Ah...yeah thats a good way to put it. It would be nice to have it feel natural. That's the deal. I would imagine it would feel better if I had a Cinitiq but that is not the case One guy had the right idea to an extent. Use photoshop to feel like photoshop. It's not like I can pick up oils and make a watercolor...AHHAHAHAHAH. But I would really like it to feel more natural. I'm fighting for that one. Thanks for the advice. I'll play with the brushes some more and see what I can come up with. Good to hear from you man.

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ARTofANT [2010-02-25 23:26:23 +0000 UTC]

First of all That's beautiful. I think your doing fine. It looks natural enough for my taste and it's not like we're trying to trick anyone into thinking we're doing traditional. But I understand the need to have your work feel more natural. The artist's hand rather than the computers. I think the key to that when I work is technique more than tool. Think how you like to work traditionally and create brushes that "recreate" that and give you the control. It's not always the texture of the brush either. Even a simple round brush w/opacity and size controlled by pen pressure can make a world of difference. Then you your brush to make marks like you would on paper or canvas. The natural texture of building up your brush strokes will give you an organic look.

Sorry about the long post. Hope this helped a little.

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Wagnr [2010-02-25 20:21:37 +0000 UTC]

Linda.

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PiratoLoco In reply to Wagnr [2010-02-25 21:43:30 +0000 UTC]

Hahhaha...is that who this is for real??

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Wagnr In reply to PiratoLoco [2010-02-26 15:14:39 +0000 UTC]

haha, Linda, belรญssima e Magnifica.
Beauty, Beautyful and Magnifc woman.
You how this girl.

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PiratoLoco In reply to Wagnr [2010-02-26 23:59:49 +0000 UTC]

HAhahahah...I have no idea who this girl is. Just found the pic and liked it. Beautiful features to be sure.

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peach-mork [2010-02-25 20:19:48 +0000 UTC]

I know there's some water color tutorials for photoshop on dA. You kind of also have to fake it 'till you make it, like using lots of watercolour textures, special brushes etc. I only found a few tutorials but: [link] [link] [link] [read their terms of use]. Kidchan used to have a tutorial but she removed it. I could upload it for you if you'd like. Also, if you google 'free photoshop brushes' you'll find a ton of paint/watercolor brushes.

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PiratoLoco In reply to peach-mork [2010-02-25 21:41:38 +0000 UTC]

Hey...Thanks a bunch..really appreciate the helpful pointing in the right direction. I'll check these links out for sure. Kidchan's work is really nice...can definitely learn something there. You have some nice stuff going on with your paints as well...maybe we can get a tutorial from you in the near future

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peach-mork In reply to PiratoLoco [2010-02-25 22:31:29 +0000 UTC]

Haha, I don't really paint that much but when I do I just use goro's brushes [link] Or I just use any one of the chalk brushes in the default brush menu on low opacity/flow. Thanks for the compliment though! And hey, no problem. Happy to help.

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ShaneCorn [2010-02-25 19:52:32 +0000 UTC]

UGH! dude.. so nice

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PiratoLoco In reply to ShaneCorn [2010-02-25 21:59:42 +0000 UTC]

Hey...thanks a lot Shane!! You guys gettin up any time soon?

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ShaneCorn In reply to PiratoLoco [2010-02-25 22:59:42 +0000 UTC]

march 6th man
if you have facebook hit me up and I'll send you the addy

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PiratoLoco In reply to ShaneCorn [2010-02-26 11:59:00 +0000 UTC]

I'm gonna do my best to make it to this my friend would be a great time.

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KIRKparrish [2010-02-25 19:13:43 +0000 UTC]

still, looks great though

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PiratoLoco In reply to KIRKparrish [2010-02-25 22:01:34 +0000 UTC]

Ha...thank you sir. These guys are right. Its one of those things where I couldn't sleep and better to do something than nothing. It's nice posting my bad ones so I can see the progress down the road anyways. Cheers man!!

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gadyariv [2010-02-25 15:40:29 +0000 UTC]

i have a revolutionary idea
what about using traditional media if you want to get the look of traditional media... and Photoshop if you want Photoshop look.
Photoshop could never replace oil color, or water colors...
but the first step could be as the fella above mentioned it to learn from the masters and how they did it.
art students copy allot of the old masters paintings to learn how they did what they did.

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PiratoLoco In reply to gadyariv [2010-02-25 21:52:21 +0000 UTC]

I like this idea, its......REVOLUTIONARY!!!

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gadyariv In reply to PiratoLoco [2010-02-26 13:07:22 +0000 UTC]

lol
now i looked at your other works and i see you do work in real colors.
and here i was thinking your just another one who never touched a real brush and think he can create the Mona Lisa in Photoshop
sorry for that mistake.

but i think the problem with this piece you where to much concerned in making it like an oil color painting.
when your previous post Oil Poster Study 3, as i understand is really made with oil colors and looks much better.

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PiratoLoco In reply to gadyariv [2010-02-26 23:59:08 +0000 UTC]

Jajajaja...funny shit my man. Another fella made a good point. Its not a matter of making it feel like another media as it is perhaps just finding a natural way to work in Photoshop. So it doesn't feel so plastic like. You actually had a good point....just not presented the best way I really should think of Photoshop as its own media. My true love is traditional media...but sometimes its a bitch to break it out at 2 in the morning and just wanna do some simple experimenting. Been doing color comps in the computer before painting for real and has saved me a lot of money on paint...hahahahaha. Cheers man.

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katana2665 [2010-02-25 13:47:00 +0000 UTC]

The first thing I see is the brush stroke direction. For instance, instead of following the leg length, the stroke should go perpendicular. which means shorter strokes. You have to look at a lot of masters to see what different strokes they use to accomplish the task.

Then there is color. here you'll see the master painter using several colors to describe one. Leighton uses brown,green,blue and white to describe a single link of chainmail....


Generally though, oil painting is all about doing the unexpected, why there are so few true masters...



I hope hat helps.

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PiratoLoco In reply to katana2665 [2010-02-25 21:51:40 +0000 UTC]

I wasn't after the brushstrokes to be honest. More interested in color. But you are right, I need to get in the habit of not being lazy with the strokes. I'm more used to traditional media where it happens from habit. Easy to develop bad habits working on the computer.

When I have to work off of a photo I try to pick weird ones where the color is strange and unnatural looking and find out why it is working that way. I hate painting off of them because the colors are so dead compared to life but its the best option sometimes (as opposed to nothing).

Thanks for the advice, I will study up on some of the masters.

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katana2665 In reply to PiratoLoco [2010-02-25 22:44:33 +0000 UTC]

Don't get me wrong. The piece is great and would certainly be good enough to satisfy an assignment, but I have to concur about the comp being a gateway to bad habits. I'm at the tail end of a painting now, that after 5 days of noodling, has me longing for a very large canvas...It's times like this I wish i could stand back 10 feet and look at it with a different perspective...anyway, I enjoy your work.

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PiratoLoco In reply to katana2665 [2010-02-25 23:23:15 +0000 UTC]

No worries man...feel free to speak your mind. It's nice when guys give constructive criticism and aren't jerks. It's nice to know guys are thinking along the same lines. And can confirm the problems I was thinking about and remind me to do some things that I knew should be doing. Feel free to always be a comment, and I will be open to anything you have to share. I thought about this one all morning and how I will push harder on the next piece. So thank you!!!

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PiratoLoco In reply to PiratoLoco [2010-02-25 23:24:15 +0000 UTC]

HA...I meant "leave" a comment not "be" one...HAHAHahahah.

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