HOME | DD

Power-and-Chaos In reply to PostPostmodernist [2015-03-09 22:43:37 +0000 UTC]

Hmm, that's an interesting idea for a picture.

(If I could draw, I might do it xD)

👍: 0 ⏩: 0

Power-and-Chaos In reply to KeplerNova [2013-12-02 23:33:29 +0000 UTC]

Cool! She seems to be my most-faved commission.

Which is strange - given how many Nu-Who fans there are, my Nu-Who commissions are way less popular. xD

👍: 0 ⏩: 1

KeplerNova In reply to Power-and-Chaos [2013-12-03 14:47:00 +0000 UTC]

It's probably because:
1) You did a very good job with this.
2) Classic Who fans are very happy that someone remembers Susan.
3) She's impossibly adorable.

👍: 0 ⏩: 1

Power-and-Chaos In reply to KeplerNova [2013-12-04 21:49:44 +0000 UTC]

OK, I'll give you points 2 and 3, she was quite adorable when she wasn't screaming.

But I should correct you on point 1, I commissioned this portrait from `alicexz

👍: 0 ⏩: 1

KeplerNova In reply to Power-and-Chaos [2013-12-04 23:01:38 +0000 UTC]

Wow, her art is amazing!

👍: 0 ⏩: 0

Power-and-Chaos In reply to Amai-Rose [2012-01-21 12:59:19 +0000 UTC]

Thanks, but I just commission all the lovely art - this was digitally painted by the very awesome .

👍: 0 ⏩: 0

Amai-Rose In reply to Amai-Rose [2012-01-20 00:10:47 +0000 UTC]

Sorry, I didn't read properly. She did a lovely job with this, you picked an awesome issue to commission

👍: 0 ⏩: 0

Power-and-Chaos In reply to ShivaTheSarcastic [2011-11-07 17:28:20 +0000 UTC]

Yeah...but they realised that most guys in the audience wanted to see the cute female sidekicks screaming for the Doctor to help, so they pandered to the lowest common denominator; hey, it worked.
As for her character otherwise, yes she was intelligent but they balanced that with a little naivete at times...and the weak telepathic powers, correct me if I'm wrong but weren't they only mentioned in one story (specifically, The Sensorites), and then never referred to again?

👍: 0 ⏩: 2

EcliptorCalrissian In reply to Power-and-Chaos [2014-10-26 06:01:53 +0000 UTC]

Apparently, she was described as psychic, action-y, and a bit scary, and... basically, the original concept for Susan is more like River Song but with the powers Susan showed in The Sensorites. Then they decided they wanted her to be someone girls her age could supposedly identify with, and apparently that meant spending nearly all of her screentime blubbering in Barbara's arms. (It helps that she was supposed to be younger than she looked. The first episode is called "An Unearthly Child" for a reason. Unfortunately, she looks nothing like a child and everything like a 24-year-old who happens to be a bit short, which of course Carole was. But then they go have a seven-year-old play her in the movies and make that version much savvier and braver! And keep in mind that this is way before we know anything about what a "Time Lord" is; many years before there was any way the makers could have come up with the later revelations. She wasn't a centuries-old alien who turned into a kid the last time she regenerated, she was just a cool kid.)

Between getting handed the sucky role, and then finding it a lot hard to get other roles because the world saw her as Susan forevermore, her time as companion was not good to Ms. Ford, and it was so short for a reason. However, she seems to have gotten over it, 'cause she's Susan again in the audio stories. Of course, it's a version of Susan who's much more like the way the role was described to her. So anyone who heard the Doctor's granddaughter was the first companion, checked out the old episodes to see her, and said "WTF?!" can see her - well, hear her at least - as you'd expect her to be. 

Best part: You know how the old series Master was a withered zombie-looking horror when he returned during Tom Baker years? They said he was at the end of his final regeneration, making it sound like it's just plain old age.

Well, it wasn't. But we know what exactly happened to him now. And her name is Susan.

👍: 0 ⏩: 1

Power-and-Chaos In reply to EcliptorCalrissian [2014-10-29 22:21:16 +0000 UTC]

Wow, I never knew any of that before! (I can't afford to buy the Big Finish Audios either, so I've never learnt about Susan's appearances in them either).

Susan was the reason that Delgado!Master became the rotting corpse facetiously referred to as crispy!Master? What the heck did she do that turned him into...that?? O_O

The one other thing that I do know about Susan, or at least about Ms. Ford, is that for the many years since the time when she played Susan on the telly, she gets extremely upset whenever fans refer to her as the Doctor's first companion. She was not the Doctor's companion, she was his granddaughter. I don't know if Ms. Ford still makes this distinction anymore - I think she may have given up on that after so many years - but she certainly used to.

Yes, Susan in the movies was a much younger child - Roberta Tovey was 12 when she played the role of Susan who, but the character was probably meant to be even younger than that - but the characterisation and background of Susan, and everybody else, was completely different as well. Barbara being Susan's sister (and therefore also Dr Who's granddaughter) for one thing, and Ian being Barbara's klutzy boyfriend for another, not to mention the human Dr Who building T.A.R.D.I.S in his backyard! xD

👍: 0 ⏩: 1

EcliptorCalrissian In reply to Power-and-Chaos [2014-10-29 23:05:42 +0000 UTC]

She got her hands on the Tissue Compression Eliminator. Didn't make him a doll/corpse but evidently it did a number on him.

And reading it again, it's actually more complicated than that. The change is apparently for the audio prorgrams (Zombie Master Actor gets to play Delgado Master, set up by the retcon that it's not a new regeneration but a damaged version of the same form.) but happened in a book. The wiki's explanation:

• If you concentrate only on televised Doctor Who, you'll probably be confused by the history of the Master presented here. A key concept of the character comes from the novel, Legacy of the Daleks , which explains that the Doctor 's granddaughter Susan  turned the TCE  on the Delgado Master in his TARDIS  — and it fried him. Extra crispy. All ready for his adventure in The Deadly Assassin . So Peter Pratt  is actually playing the ravaged form of Delgado. And really Anthony Ainley  is playing the combination of Delgado with Tremas . But then in most Big Finish  audios comes a Master who's had the Tremas side of him removed in Dust Breeding . That means that the Delgado Master is back on Big Finish — but played by Geoffrey Beevers, who played him in  The Keeper of Traken.
  

👍: 0 ⏩: 1

Power-and-Chaos In reply to EcliptorCalrissian [2014-10-30 01:02:23 +0000 UTC]

Ahh, okay. Like I said, I've never had the money to afford to buy the Big Finish Audios, but I've heard some wonderful things about them and that they have a whole rich history including arcs that relate to the TV series (but are rarely mentioned by the TV, at least directly).

Well yes, a lot of people don't make the distinction between companions and Susan being the Doctor's granddaughter. Apparently though, Carole-Ann got rather snippy with called her character a companion, possibly because she felt that they were relegating her role to being "just another companion like all the others" when she was more than that. I dunno, that bit's just conjecture on my part.

You're right of course, some stories suffered horribly from padding (usually up to an episode or even more of it), to fill out the pre-determined ep count per serial. Some stories, on the other hand, felt somewhat cut short due to being written for, say, 6 episodes and then cut to 5. One of my own favourite "guilty pleasures", actually, suffers from both problems simultaneously! xD That serial in question between "The Dominators" which was originally scheduled for 6 episodes after another story fell through, but then cut to 5 when the guys at the top realised they didn't have enough material for 6 episodes (so they gave the extra episode to the start of "The Mind Robbers", which resulted in its own filler episode in the white voidspace). Unfortunately, they underestimated the amount of filler in Dominators, which still felt rather padded even at only 5 eps long, and could've possibly been cut down to 4. Oh well.

The 2 unrelated Cushing movies were great, and although they are quite popular with Dr Who fans now, they weren't very popular at the time. Well, Dr Who and the Daleks was fairly popular, but then Daleks: Invasion Earth - 2150 AD got released and apparently did rather poorly in cinemas everywhere. I recall reading somewhere that there had actually been plans to continue with more movies of Cushing as Who based on each of the subsequent Dalek stories, and so the third movie would've been based on "The Chase" and the fourth would've been "Daleks' Masterplan"- which I feel would've both been really interesting ones to put up on the big screen. But by all accounts, the poor showing of Dalek Invasion caused them to rethink this idea and the third movie was shelved - indefinitely, as it turned out.

👍: 0 ⏩: 1

EcliptorCalrissian In reply to Power-and-Chaos [2014-11-06 07:10:27 +0000 UTC]

I can't recall any specific examples of it (not having seen anywhere near all the available oldschool series) but apparently there's more than one serial where they get locked up at the beginning of an episode, spend all that time escaping, then get locked up again at the end and you could excise the episode entirely and change nothing about the story.

I wish I could get my hands on more of 'em. It's where 90% of the Eighth Doctor's career is, after all! With only things like that to tide fans over between the 90s movie and the new series, I bet there are as many fans who consider the voice of Paul McGann the "one true Doctor" as there are people who'd say the same of Tom Baker or David Tennant.

...they risk their lives if they say it out loud. But I bet they think it.

👍: 0 ⏩: 0

ShivaTheSarcastic In reply to Power-and-Chaos [2011-11-07 20:35:02 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, they were only mentioned in The Sensorites story, but that is an interesting idea that they could have explored. Oh well, I still enjoy her.

👍: 0 ⏩: 0

Power-and-Chaos In reply to MightyMorphinPower4 [2011-10-29 23:19:08 +0000 UTC]

Thanks. Yeah, ^alicexz did a great job.

👍: 0 ⏩: 0

Power-and-Chaos In reply to quirkypaynesgrey [2011-10-26 22:51:08 +0000 UTC]

Thanks, but I didn't make it. I commissioned this piece from , using a screencap from "An Unearthly Child" as a reference.

👍: 0 ⏩: 0

Power-and-Chaos In reply to BrigadierDarman [2011-10-26 22:51:25 +0000 UTC]

Indeed she was. Thanks for commenting.

👍: 0 ⏩: 0

Power-and-Chaos In reply to Arcalian [2011-10-14 20:49:15 +0000 UTC]

'Course I do. I've not been around since the beginning (the very first story my dad watched was "The Daleks"), but I've been watching Who since before I can remember (the first story I watched was "Trial of a Timelord"). And I've been a Whovian ever since.

Although there are other Whovian-created theories that suggest Susan may not directly be the Doctor's granddaughter, but the granddaughter of The Other, and that the Doctor is somewhat of a re-incarnation of The Other in a completely fresh life (The Other being the third guy who worked with Rassilon and Omega). But I don't think that makes much sense, or matters much anyways.

Excuse my rambling.

👍: 0 ⏩: 1

Arcalian In reply to Power-and-Chaos [2011-10-14 23:19:05 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I read Lungbarrow. My first story was The Pirate Planet. "Mistah Fibuleeeeee!"

No excuses needed.

👍: 0 ⏩: 0