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Published: 2015-02-01 01:32:28 +0000 UTC; Views: 3287; Favourites: 19; Downloads: 7
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Description Had a friend help me out with this one, so this isn't all just from me, but the sentiment is pretty clear, and worst of all, it doesn't even scratch the surface of the many problems of Sonic Boom.
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Psyco-The-Frog In reply to ??? [2015-02-04 19:39:55 +0000 UTC]

Dude, what fuck? LMAO, oh god,

You're really going to keep trying aren't you? What the hell even prompt you to ask that shit? lol.

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BigJohnnyCool In reply to ??? [2015-02-01 09:14:40 +0000 UTC]

Come to think of it, this is also one of the many "post-Sonic 06" (with the mild exception of SOME moments in Sonic Unleashed) elements that the new writers have been trying to do that's been really annoying for a while now.

Well done for pointing this out.

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EliseLowing In reply to ??? [2015-02-01 04:44:16 +0000 UTC]

Hmm, now that you mention it, it is kind of repetitive.  Dr. Eggman and Sonic seem to be teaming up too often.  I know they did team up of the past games (the Adventure games, Next Gen., Lost World), but usually the situations called for them when both characters had a common cause (Chaos threatening to destroy the city, Space Colony ARK crashing into earth).  And even then, it was usually at the end when the real villains were plotting to destroy the world.  It was there for a purpose, not just to fill in the story.

Now, I enjoy Sonic Boom for what it is, and I think it does have some good points, but I don't think it's flawless either.  I can admit that I do have a few problems with it.

For instance, Knuckles being an idiot is way too over the top and it doesn't even feel like the Knuckles I came to know anymore.  Honestly, it's painful.

However, I think the relationship with Sonic and Amy is a bit better in terms of how they interact with each other.  Amy isn't a crazy fangirl anymore, and Sonic doesn't run away from her.  I know Amy herself isn't really defined too well, as she seems to change from episode to episode, but I think they are on to something with her being more than just a crazy girl who just wants to flirt with Sonic.  So, that's a compliment.  Then again, my thoughts on it may differ from person to person, but still.

I guess it all comes down to characterization and plot development.  Some of the ideas they have for Sonic Boom do sound pretty good, there are some great individual moments, and I don't mind having downtime or even filler episodes.

I think it's just a matter of looking at something, seeing what works, what doesn't work, what could use some improvement, and seeing what we can do to make it better.  Nothing is ever black and white, there is always different color tones in between.  Too often I see things with just "good" or "bad" stamped on them.  However, I thinks it's more of identifying what works and what doesn't work.

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Psyco-The-Frog In reply to EliseLowing [2015-02-01 08:59:51 +0000 UTC]

" Too often I see things with just "good" or "bad" stamped on them.  However, I thinks it's more of identifying what works and what doesn't work."
Which I've done constantly with these memes. Even then, say the wrong thing and people will throw a bitch fit anyway. lol.

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mjponso In reply to ??? [2015-02-01 04:14:35 +0000 UTC]

I do find the TV show entertaining (I actually like seeing instances of Sticks, because she's the newcomer) but do agree that some of the episodes have cliches in the plot.  Once again it all stems back to the writing.

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SuperAbachiBro In reply to ??? [2015-02-01 04:13:11 +0000 UTC]

Granted, the show is getting boring and stupid with every new episode. Cowbot had to be the worst.

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Psyco-The-Frog In reply to SuperAbachiBro [2015-02-01 04:37:38 +0000 UTC]

It's getting boring and stupid? I could told you that shit before it even came out, but apparently, trailers are not a credible source of what's to come anymore. XD

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SuperAbachiBro In reply to Psyco-The-Frog [2015-02-01 05:12:59 +0000 UTC]

Sorry I wasted my hopes on this. XD

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Psyco-The-Frog In reply to SuperAbachiBro [2015-02-01 06:02:42 +0000 UTC]

Can't blame you, I had my hopes up to,when I saw the first trailer that is. It all went downhill from there.

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SuperAbachiBro In reply to Psyco-The-Frog [2015-02-01 14:45:24 +0000 UTC]

Well, I'm going to do myself a favor now and stop watching this.

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jeffreythefox1012 In reply to ??? [2015-02-01 02:43:28 +0000 UTC]

This idea was charming at first(Even though i prefer Sonic and Robotnik having a bitter hatred for each other.),but it's starting to get REALLY stale.

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Psyco-The-Frog In reply to jeffreythefox1012 [2015-02-01 04:40:22 +0000 UTC]

"This idea was charming at first"
I never really got what's so good about being "charming". Every time I hear that word it's in defense of bullshit like this, or defining something or a character that's not really that good or appealing(like most of Nintendo's shit). Seriously, I've hardly ever heard that word regarding entertainment till I got on the net.

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jeffreythefox1012 In reply to Psyco-The-Frog [2015-02-01 04:42:02 +0000 UTC]

Everyone has their own opinion,but yeah,i'm getting sick and tired of it.

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Psyco-The-Frog In reply to jeffreythefox1012 [2015-02-01 06:05:23 +0000 UTC]

Opinions don't matter much when it comes to reality I'm afraid. That's a truth many people (on the internet anyway, most people usually have a good argument in the real word, even the most ignorant, but not outright damage controlling) don't see to know when they're too busy being opinionated. I'm not just saying that to be an asshole either.
themendenhall.com/2011/10/01/d…

Besides, opinions is how we ended up with the kind of Sonic we have now.

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jeffreythefox1012 In reply to Psyco-The-Frog [2015-02-01 06:16:58 +0000 UTC]

I know.

I'm still hoping that the Sonic franchise will bounce back after Sonic Boom,but i'm not gonna get my hopes up.

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Hexidextrous In reply to ??? [2015-02-01 02:38:16 +0000 UTC]

Eggman's starting to become less of a "Bad Guy" and more of just some annoying punk who appears every so often, but doesn't hate them completely. I'm starting to think of Sonic Boom Eggman as more of neutral than evil.

Cowbot was the biggest offender, where he camps out with them at his house and treats them like houseguests or something like that.


Not only that, but he only has one base now, and everyone apparently knows where it is. That's really saying something.
What happened to the times when he had multiple bases, ranging from hidden outposts, to giant airships designed to be flying fortresses, and Orbital Space Stations, and more!

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SpongicX In reply to ??? [2015-02-01 02:06:49 +0000 UTC]

I disagree, I love how the show is going. It doesn't feel repetitive at all. 

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Psyco-The-Frog In reply to SpongicX [2015-02-01 02:20:02 +0000 UTC]

Disagreeing doesn't change any of the facts stated, it only shows your own delusional fanboyism.

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SpongicX In reply to Psyco-The-Frog [2015-02-01 02:25:13 +0000 UTC]

Whatever... Apparently someone has never heard of opinions...

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Dracold In reply to SpongicX [2015-02-01 16:33:22 +0000 UTC]

Heh, I have heard about opinions like... one billion times and I keep hearing about them every day. There is hardly a way you can talk to somebody before he throws at you that you should respect his opinion.
Accept the fact that it is happening way too often, and respect the opinion that it is bad. OK?

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Psyco-The-Frog In reply to SpongicX [2015-02-01 04:32:23 +0000 UTC]

I have, it's the fact that people like you are naive enough to think they matter in the face of facts. This is proven by the fact that, for one, you felt it was important to tell me you like this show, even though no one asked if you did, and secondly, you disagreed with no counter argument to the points made whatsoever. On top of that, I would have to wonder how you seem to end up on my deviations. You're not watching me, and I doubt this popped up on another deviation(I'd like to see which one it was if it did). This would allow me to think you intentionally found my meme, just so you can give me your opinion, which was not asked for, and means jack shit when it comes to the truth. You dig?

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SpongicX In reply to Psyco-The-Frog [2015-02-01 08:20:41 +0000 UTC]

Are you stupid or something? i found this image, because I was looking for Sonic fan art. i love seeing what some creative fans can make. i just happened to see your image, and I decided to take a closer look. i was guessing it would've been a funny comic, instead, I find trolling trash talk from a self righteous jerk, who claims his own opinions are 100% fact... if you don't like the show, fine, but don't imply others are stupid, just for sharing their honest opinion. i did not disagree with your picture to mess with you, or make you mad. i was just kindly stating that the show doesn't bother me.

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Psyco-The-Frog In reply to SpongicX [2015-02-01 08:54:31 +0000 UTC]

"Are you stupid or something? i found this image, because I was looking for Sonic fan art."
So you just found this by chance? LMAO

In any case, yeah, when you just you disagree and said you like the show just to state your opinion, it came off as fanboyish, because it was more important to give your opinion of you liking the show rather the say anything about the point made, just that you disagree with it. It's a bad way of arguing even if you just comment for the sake of being opinionated alone.

Also, about me thinking "my opinions are 100% facts", feel free to hit me up when you can prove my statements are not based on reality are, because when it comes to arguments, which this was, opinions have no value here. This only makes you look even more fanboyish then before, going so far to protect your little failure of kids cartoons and straight up ignoring the facts, showing even more there was no reason for you to even bother commenting.

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SpongicX In reply to Psyco-The-Frog [2015-02-01 13:32:47 +0000 UTC]

I'm done talking with you... Have fun making an ass out of yourself, by acting like you're king of the nerds, just for disliking the fact that some people like this show...

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EliseLowing In reply to Psyco-The-Frog [2015-02-01 04:52:24 +0000 UTC]

I don't meant to just but in like this, but different people do have different tastes.  I'm not saying that I will always agree with other people's opinions, but I don't think it's a good idea to just dismiss someone else's opinion.  They might see something that we don't, even if we don't agree with it.

I'm not trying to make myself sound like I know everything, but from my guest appearance on "Sonic Dissected", I learned that people view things differently than I do.  Does that mean I'm right and their wrong, or I'm wrong and their right?  Of course not.  We just have different points of view.  And I think that instead of dismissing them, we should try to understand why they see things the way they do, and try to help them understand ours.  I'm not saying we should all like the same thing, but we should at least try to see where others are coming from.

I also don't think it's a good idea calling them names like "delusional fanboyism".  I'm sorry, but was that really called for?

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SpongicX In reply to EliseLowing [2015-02-01 08:25:14 +0000 UTC]

Thank you.

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EliseLowing In reply to SpongicX [2015-02-01 16:18:44 +0000 UTC]

No prob.

However, I think it would be better for you to next time make points about why you like or dislike something.  It would better support your arguments.  If you explain yourself better in a neutral way, then people will most likely be willing to at least listen.

Just a small piece of advice.

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Psyco-The-Frog In reply to EliseLowing [2015-02-01 06:01:07 +0000 UTC]

As I've already said, opinions don't mean much when it comes to the facts, and as I said, this had nothing to do with him liking it or not, it's that he felt it was important to give his opinion, when it was not the subject or asked for, and completely ignored the points made. THAT'S why I said delusional fanboyism. Not only that but Sonic Boom has pretty much flopped in every way possible. The views for the show are down, and most of them were the same fanboy advocating this direction for Sonic in the first place, when has brought the series downhill sense then, an the games flopped. People are free to like this junk, but that had nothing to do with what I was talking about, and he clearly showed up to this meme on his own to add that comment, which left me free to call him delusional.

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EliseLowing In reply to Psyco-The-Frog [2015-02-01 16:17:09 +0000 UTC]

Okay, he may not have explained his opinion in the first comment, but your response didn't make it any better.  You immediately dismissed him as a "fanboy" and didn't bother to ask what he thought about Sonic Boom.  You could've asked him why he liked the series.  You may not have agreed with what he said, but you would've at least gotten his side of the story.

Keep in mind, I'm not trying to lecture you or make you out to be some arrogant person, I'm trying to help you.  I know from a previous experience that if you don't explain yourself well, make your own views look higher than anyone else's, or talk as if you know everything, people are going to give you criticism.  And sometimes, it's not the kind of criticism you want to hear.  And it won't make it any better if you just dismiss everyone who has a different view from you as a "fanboy" or a "troll".

When I guested-stared on Sonic Dissected, I got a lot of negative feedback.  Most of it was due to the presentation of how I expressed my points.  However, some of the criticism I got were things I needed to hear.  And when I explained myself to others as to why I did what I did, and even admit where I went wrong, I got a lot more respect.

Now, I won't deny that you do make legit points.  Like I said, I do agree with some of the things you have said in the past.  I would just recommend to not lash out at people who have a different point of view.  Ask them why they may have a different view, and then try to reason with them.  Granted, there are some people out there who are just looking for a fight, and you shouldn't give them that satisfaction, but I didn't feel like this person was trying to annoy you.  He was just stating his opinions.

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Psyco-The-Frog In reply to EliseLowing [2015-02-01 20:10:02 +0000 UTC]

The fact of the matter is that completely dodged the issue to state his opinion, that pretty much what delusional fanboys do, and are actually quite cancerous to gaming. He's just stating his opinion, but again, it wasn't the issue, and it wasn't asked for, therefore there was no value in it. Simple as that. Opinion IS THE REASON Sonic is getting retarded BS like Boom now(No matter how much you may enjoy the show), and lower sales, equating to failure. That's the reality, which is why I dismissed the guy comments as I did. If you still fill a need to defend the opinions of others, read this:

"For whatever reason, American culture seems firmly fixated on the presupposition that, because everyone has the right to speak freely, everything that proceeds forth from an individual’s mouth should be treated respectfully. Nothing could be further from the truth. “If this position were to be applied consistently, it means that every sophist, every racist, every bigot, every statist, Rep. Maxine Waters (who is of the opinion that the Tea Party ‘can go straight to hell’), and anyone else with an equally damnable personal belief is entitled to respect for those beliefs” (“The Caesar Effect ”). Nevertheless, both statists and supposed liberty-lovers alike make this assertion, pleading pitifully at the first sign of opposition, “It’s just my opinion!”"

The whole article is here:
themendenhall.com/2011/10/01/d…

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irisimo In reply to ??? [2015-02-01 02:05:28 +0000 UTC]

I agree with you entirely

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Zappuel-LightninRod [2015-02-01 01:57:09 +0000 UTC]

Sonic and Eggman's relationship is pretty much exactly the same as Perry's and Doofenshmirtz's from Phineas and Ferb.

Except Sonic can speak, but let's be honest, Eggman wouldn't be doing anything differently if he couldn't.

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