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Published: 2019-03-15 04:24:03 +0000 UTC; Views: 12464; Favourites: 98; Downloads: 117
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A (relatively) easy map, mainly so I can put off doing work on commissions I need to finish. [1] Based on Travel Guide #9 by OttoVonSuds. Some extra changes, because I'm cuckoo for cocoa puffs butterflies. Ideas for Africa and some from the Southern Cone taken from the excellent Male Rising timeline by Jonathan Edelstein.
If I have (almost inevitably) made some errors, let me know.
[1] Who would have guessed there are some logical problems in Hideaki Anno's world-building?
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When did the Chinese gobble down Tibet in this verse?
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Would be interested to see where this map ends up by the modern day.
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The borders in Africa look horribly complicated and fragile- especially in East Africa. How does a three-nation condominium function without all three parties stepping on each other's toes? And that's without considering the local native powers that will try to play off the European states to benefit the most.
That's going to fall apart as soon as a situation goes sideways right?
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Oh, that's going to go seriously pear-shaped in a few decades time.
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Oh, a few extra details - won't put them on the map since I've already edited and reposted this here and on alternate history dot com three times.
That big "Kashmir" is the Sikh Empire. Put up a hard enough fight that it ended up a British vassal rather than being broken up as OTL, and it's a useful buffer: takes care of the occasional Afghan invasion rather than the British having to dirty their hands themselves.
The wee state above it is Balti.
Egypt managed to secure Palestine in the general collapse of the ottoman Empire and makes beaucoup bucks (or piastres) off the Pilgrim trade. It has also held onto an equal number of shares in the Sinai canal to the French.
Haiti (responding to a comment at the other site) has been slavery-free for a while, but it is still dominated economically and politically by an elite of whites and generally mixed-race, French-speaking blacks. (There is also a sizable Asian immigrant population: there are more Indians, etc. in the British Caribbean, and more Chinese everywhere)
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Very nice. I thought when you proposed doing this I'd see it later this year and not within 2 weeks!
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Most of the time I just totter along but every now and then I'll get a burst of obsessive-compulsive energy and put something out fast.
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Sounds like my usual process where I'll get roughly 1/4 of the way into a map, then stall out and do occasional tinkering/maybe if lucky another burst tbh
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New QB map!!! OttoVonSudds does great work, hope to see more covers of him in the future.
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OttoVonSuds? You mean the person who thinks human rights is "commie garbage"?
www.deviantart.com/comments/4/…
archive: archive.is/TnRWl
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mikusingularity All I know is that in a situation between a nonwhite guy who writes scenarios about explicitly less European colonization vs a guy who is obsessed with anime girls and manages to hold internet grudges now literally years old which one is more likely to be the nazi to be between them...
...and it isn't Otto.
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I imagined Hatsunia as one of the Allies in WWII, and a bastion of human rights, because I wanted to distance myself from the "alt-right with anime avatars" crowd
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It is clear to me based on a few conversations and various memes of his that OttoVonSuds is a Sailer-ite .
By the way, he created a "Japan-lead East Asia takes over the world from the US scenario" in the form of "Japan Moves South in 1914" (one of my favourites).
www.deviantart.com/ottovonsuds…
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That is exactly the map where we disagreed.
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Sorry to hear that.
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I don't believe in the dichotomy that "human rights are inherently for the West, the East doesn't need them [or alternatively, is doomed never to comprehend them]"
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Personality, in terms of defining "good governance", I prefer to use the barometer of "human security" over "human rights" because "human rights" can't apply in autocracies (which may function quite well in spite of restricted political rights) or anarchies (where there are no institutions at all to even enforce "human rights", let alone abuse them). In particular, the emphasis should be on "freedom from fear" and "freedom from want", which have more relevance in the concept of human security.
As a realist and alt-centrist, my motto is, "Neocons want worldwide "free" governments. Liberal Internationalists want worldwide "democratic" governments. Realists want worldwide *functioning* governments, and preferably not psycho warlords!"
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"alt-centrist"
what's that?
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To be honest, it's not really a term that is used much outside my own conception. It is partially adopted from Ted Halstead and Michael Lind's "The Radical Center" from 2001. I think of it as a mix of economic developmentalism and social communitarianism - a stark contrast to Yuppie boomer "centrist" degeneracy.
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I think he meant that people who abuse human rights to get things their way.
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If I confined my browsing of art and alternate history online only to those people whose opinions entirely matched my own, my choices would be much poorer.
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You're in good company, the only things I hate are communists, dogs, tomatoes, and fortnite kids.
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