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Published: 2010-04-02 23:15:22 +0000 UTC; Views: 17880; Favourites: 306; Downloads: 113
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So tempted to put this in the main gallery what with how long it's taken (was supposed to be a little project when I needed a break from doing the Germans Meme almostdonenow), but so much text means it's going here.I've had a surprising number of people ask if they can roleplay this guy (and Kievan Rus') over the past few months, so hopefully this should help with the details. Any questions, do feel free to ask!
I was going to do some notes on Varangian Rus' (aka - Scandia during the viking age) and Kievan Rus', but I this was huge enough already, so I may do a smaller Part 2.
And now, some history notes (aka: info I would have included in his character portrait if I hadn't wanted to at least try to keep it short):
Germania - Obviously the tribes that went on to make up Germania migrated from the Scandinavian region late in the BC time-line. The ones which moved actually came from the Southern most areas, so that would make Scandia originally the Northern part before this shift. Scandinavia can technically count as Germanic too for this reason, but there's a Swedish translator named Viktor Rydberg who's promoted using "Teutonic" instead as an all-encompassing term for both Germans and Scandinavians (I'm not sure if I like this, as I associate the Teutonic title with a singular Germanic tribe, "Teutons", and of course, the Teutonic Order).
The migration was caused by climate change and need for more resources/land due to a growing population.
Germanic tribes formed alliances and started wars with each other all the time, so their relationship works like that too.
Children- I still find it strange how a lot of fans go with the Nords being ancients themselves, but I still see that as saying if the Swedes were always Sweden, or the Danes as Denmark, then Germany existed as Germania, or as the Alamanni tribe (seeing as Germany is "Allemagne" in French, "Alemania" in Spanish, etc). I'm still having an internal debate over when exactly they appeared, but seeing as we still don't know when exactly Italy came into being (bearing in mind he was around when Rome was apparently), I'll be leaving this for now.
Sweden was the only one of his children to catch him crying. They never spoke about it since, but they did grow closer from it.
Finland has strange heritage. In this case, I have gone with him not knowing his ancestor and having Scandia adopt him (seeing as he counts as Fenno-Scandinavia - using some regional details instead of people based).
Iceland wasn't settled/discovered until the 800s... according to runic sources. However, these sources have proven continuously to suck at getting dates right. Apparently some recent carbon dating has shown it could have been settled as early as the 600s.
I am including the Jutes and Angles as OCs seeing as they're play a part in my English History head-canon.
Romance- Like I said in his character portrait , Scandinavians were hardly mentioned in Roman sources, despite the fact they had a lot of Roman stuff. Scandia probably joined his brother in raids a few times, but there were tribes mentioned as being involved in fur trade and the like. Archeological findings have shown they were taller than the Germans (even if Hidekaz does seem to have Rome and Germania about the same heights). Rome thought Scandinavia was an island.
He's so tearful over winter because apparently winter depression was first mentioned in sources relating to the tribes inhabiting Scandinavia. Hence he cries a lot that time of year.
I'm too sleepy to add any more, so if you want it, ask away~
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Yeah, I guess you're right... Scandia is so cute 
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Aw, thank you <3 His human name for AU roleplay is "Erik Konrad" :')
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What a badass name, lol
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Fuh, I'm glad I have you to enlighten me about stuff north of Germania. Because the only books I ever read on any of this is relations between Rome and Germania, never any of that Scandinavian stuff.
You did a great job of clearing up a lottt of the things I was wondering about your OC of the area (since you're good about your historical accuracy for the most part~~~)
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("For the most part"?) Thanks...! Finding details on ancient Scandinavia is pretty tough when they left no written sources and Roman ones hardly give them any mention at all. That really just leaves archeological findings and drawing a few parallels between their lifestyles and those of the mainland Germanics.
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I SAID FOR THE MOST PART BECAUSE
SOMETIMES YOU TAKE LIBERTIES (but you always say when you do)
also, it would be dumb of me to blindly take everything for fact just because i don't know better on the subjecttt
orz
;w;
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Pff, no worries. If you do see any glaring mistakes, let me know :')
And just to reassure you - the liberties don't contradict given historical fact - just filling in what we don't know / making it interesting (the countries/regions are still characters, after all)
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Mmhm, I know, I know~
I just overreact when interacting to people I watch, lol. ;w; Inadvertent pedestal-putting, as it were.
If I saw anything outlandish, you'd hear of it. =w=
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Very detailed and very, very nicely put together
I think that most people include the Scandinavians as semi-achients themselves because when you look at their origin, they're pretty old coutries. I guess I can use Denmark as an example, since I live there and we had about this in history. Whenever we used talk about our country in history class, there's not really a time where all three Scandinavian coutries are completely melted together. I believe that Denmark used to be called "Tanmarkar" if I'm not mistaken from the early runewriting scrips we have here. When we look at our origin in history, we start from around 13.000 BC. That's roughtly where Denmark began as a permanently settled piece of land.
Germany was, as far as I can rememeber, a part of lesser Germania at that time, while the Scandinavian coutries made up Magna Germania... ah damn, I don't hope I wrote this to you before, don't mean to bother you with it or anything, but this is a very interesting topic ^^ <3
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Thanks!
I do understand that it was settled long ago (one of the earliest recorded civilisations, right?) but there are lots of places, now modern nations, which had those kind of settlements dating back to ancient times. I just find it odd that the Scandinavian nations should be an exception when they were still made up of different tribes (with scattered kingdoms here and there) and not fully formed entities until quite late on. I suppose in the end it's a matter of at what point you can think nations would come into existence in Hetalia.
Also I understood that Magna Germania didn't include the 'Scandza' peninsula - that it was the region that lay East of the Rhine up to coast...? In any case, historians like Jordanes seemed to treat it like a different region altogether.
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Hmmm I believe it's the same with England, for instance. At the time when he's "small" he's not really what you'd call England today, is he? Ack, I actually can't remember that right now. But I think it's one of the reasons why it might be so?
You could also take a look at Turkey or Prussia - they were both different empires/orders when they were "younger", but they're still the same character
The Scandza region? Oh Gott, refresh my geographical memory here.. |D;; I haven't slept more than 1ยฝ hours in nearly 30 hours, so excuse the brainlesness >>;; *was a whole lot more coherent when I wrote the first reply* XD;;
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Yes, there's still some debate over when England (as a character / nation) came into existence, seeing as Roman Britannia included Wales. Think the earliest we've seen him (as a child) in Hetalia was the 11th century (so during the Norman conquest of Britain). True enough that Turkey and Prussia had 'forms' before being settled nations, but like I said, the nations don't seem to have been 'born' as soon as people with a similar name and geographical location emerged, or Germany would have come into existence way back (same with France - saying that nations = proto-kingdom's/empires would mean the Franks would have been France... but Hidekaz has already said he was considering making a 'Franks' character something like modern France's father). Like you said, it is an interesting debate, but but from what Hetalia's given us already, I don't see the modern Nordics being teens/adults until after the 1000s (though as I said in the description, I'm still contemplating when they would have been 'born').
Ah, Scandza - what the Romans thought was an island but was actually the Scandinavian peninsula. (And I know what you mean - I keep finding myself staying up far too late and getting so little sleep |'D )
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I guess it's a debate that'll rage on forever. The nordics are so minor characters in Hetalia that I really doubt Himaruya is going to bother. Though if he happens to answer the question in terms of France or the others I guess it could easily be applied to them as well.
One thing that convinced me of them being older than some of the other nations though, was the earliest drawing that he did of Denmark and Norway - a drawing of them in viking outfits, but still being grown up. At this time, you have as you said, England and France as children for instance.
Hmm .. So Scandza is what you'd call the whole of Sweden and Norway today? Or are we talking about Scania/Skรฅne here? XD;; Hehe, those Roman names to lands up here kinda remind me of how we used to have vastly different names for particular places down south. (Ugh.. yeah... damn... I have the worst habit of staying up and getting like.. 4 hours of sleep on a normal work day >>;;; )
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HE'S SO CUTE AHH ; A ;
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Hey babyyyyyy
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