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Gran bel lavoro! Non si potrebbe fare una cosa simile per la Valle d'Aosta?
Comunque dove hai trovato le fonti? Sarebbe bello se lasciassi la fonte in descrizione, a volte è davvero difficile individuarle (:
EDIT: ciao, ho trovato la fonte per la valle d'aosta per tutti i comuni 
EDIT 2 : finita la mappa 
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Ho aggiunto la fonte (credevo di averlo già fatto in realtà XD)
Carina.
In realtà 7000 interviste sono un po' poche per ricavarne dati precisi (circa il 7% dei valdostani), ma la situazione sembra abbastanza realistica.
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Again? Ok.
No. I mean Alto Adige.
How you call Italy? "Italia" or "Italien"?
You call Spain "España"? Or Montenegro "Crna Gora"? Or Algeria "Al-Jumhūrīyah al-Jazā'irīyah ad-Dīmuqrāţīyah ash-Sha`bīyah"? I think not.
I call things in my language. Problems?
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That´s a great information, could you also do it in English? Sometimes I get the sense
but it is a bit difficult.
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The legend in the description should be enough, but I will try anyway to translate also the sentences in the image.
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Yes I get most of it, but it needs extra time XD
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Good to see German staying fairly strong there.
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More or less yes, sadly the capital Bozen is rather mixed up.
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That Region Name is South-Tyrol/Süd-Tirol, not Alto Adige.
Alto Adige is a fascist Name from Mussolini-Regime.
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The term "Alto Adige" became official after the WWII. He was born during the Napoleonic era.
Anyway, that is the highest part of the Adige basin, so "Alto Adige" is de facto its name. (or if you prefer, "High Adige", "Hoch Etsch", ecc...)
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The South Tyroler call it "Süd-Tirol", not Alto Adige.
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And the Japanese call Japan "Nihon", what's the point? I'm not a South Tyroler.
Oh, and the name "Süd-Tirol" was given to this area in 1972. Before, it's called "Tiroler Etschland" (nice name); storically it's called "Mitteltirol".
Anyway, I can take , for example, the Wallis Canton and called it "Alto Rodano", and it's correct! It's just a geographical definition.
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I think what Metal means is, that Italy named it on purpose after the less important
geographical river name instead of using Sudtirolo for example, to hide the wish
for independance from the native people there. They were also never asked if
they want also Welschtirol (Trentino) to be included so they can be outnumbered
by Italians in every election.
Südtirol is a big drama.
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Well, not exactly. The official name of the region is "Trentino-Alto Adige/Südtirol", in two languages.
Moreover, being an autonomous territory, I think they were the ones to choose this name.
I'm not sure I understand your second sentence, but the provinces of Trento and Bolzano, are technically part of the same region, but they are treated as if they were two different regions.
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I doubt the Germans there chose the italian name for it.
With my second sentence I mean, that only the german Südtirol
should´ve become autonomous, because Italy can claim the natively
italian Welschtirol which is no problem at all, only Südtirol is a problem
between the peoples.
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The name is in two language, and in the region there are not only Germans.
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The drama is absolute majorities of Südtiroler Volkspartei. Wish for independance? Almost nobody is separatist in Bolzano-Alto Adige.
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Seems the patriots are not doing enough yet then^^
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Their fatherland is Italy, they live beyond the Alps.
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The Alps end at the Garda lake and not at Südtirol.
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They live beyond the drainage divide.
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Or the Germans need that drainage line, so give all the Po river are to them plox^^
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The Sudtirol isn't in the Po basin
And I think this works as opposed. (in reality Austria should not exist )
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You know what I want to express with that^^
States should usually not (sometimes it is possible) be shaped because
of a bit water, but where your people live and your language and culture
existed in the last 1000 years. Anything else is greedy and egoistic claim
for an advantage on the cost of other people.
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they are not separatists because elsewhere they would not have the same fiscal autonomy XD
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Yes, they would live inside Austria or Germany worse than inside Italy.
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Nice. Is there a particular reason why the population of Alto Adige is growing faster than the rest of Italy?
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If you mean in the present, administrative autonomy, and a consequent economic welfare.
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