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Published: 2017-02-26 15:20:59 +0000 UTC; Views: 14552; Favourites: 117; Downloads: 73
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Another of the most famous and impressive theropod groups, the carcharodontosaurines aren't exactly well-represented either. The combined amount of known specimens of every species in Carcharodontosaurinae (minus Mapusaurus) is lower than the amount of known specimens of Spinosaurus.... well, at least those that are preserved aren't as fragmentary as the sailback.For the record, all specimens included in this chart are fully grown adults, with the possible exception of Mapusaurus MCF-PVPH-108.1 (#5) and the UFRJ carcharodontosaurine (#1). I would have included young specimens, originally, but Mapusaurus has way too many and they're a pain to scale from. Two is enough.
The silhouettes are based on the skeletals by and multiple papers about carcharodontosaurids, such as Coria and Currie 2006 (Mapusaurus), Novas et al. 2015 and Canale et al. 2014 (Tyrannotitan), with the weights performed by GDI. I've now decided to use a 165cm tall woman for scale rather than a 180cm man, because muh dinosaurs look hugh mungous
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Paleontologyfanboy [2022-11-01 20:27:05 +0000 UTC]
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Ryanvenator [2020-01-09 01:56:00 +0000 UTC]
update the pic and the Mapu, Tyranno, and Carcha size
also, great work! cuz Carcharodontosaurid / saurinae r my fav at all!
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randomdinos In reply to Ryanvenator [2020-01-18 14:37:54 +0000 UTC]
Thanks!
I agree this chart could use an update, maybe with more specimens.
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TheLizard721 [2019-12-15 05:40:05 +0000 UTC]
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randomdinos In reply to TheLizard721 [2019-12-16 21:03:04 +0000 UTC]
Only one overlapping measurement, the depth of the dentaries (one is 3 milimeters or 2.2% deeper than the other). It was initially said that MUCPv-95 was 8% larger because of the dentary being 8% longer; but this is because the dentary of the holotype is incomplete whereas the other is complete, not because the MUCPv-95 element is actually larger.
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TheLizard721 In reply to randomdinos [2019-12-17 04:40:04 +0000 UTC]
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anomally [2017-05-25 04:17:14 +0000 UTC]
The Giga MUCPv-95 was estimated as 8200 kg by Scott Hartman if scaled up by 6.5% from the Holotype despite his reluctance to claim it to be 6.5% larger at all due to the possibility of a large headed individual. I assume you don't believe it to be 6.5% larger linearly either based on the dentary? Just wondering how did you come to the 7290 kg result, very nice and detailed chart by the way.
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randomdinos In reply to anomally [2017-05-26 23:47:41 +0000 UTC]
Indeed, I currently do not believe that it is larger than the holotype at all (the depths of both dentaries have been measured previously in papers and the difference between them is threeΒ milimeters, virtually nothing), but at the time of making the chart I thought scaling directly from that difference was the best thing to do (which got an animal 2.2% larger in linear dimensions, and ~400 kg heavier than the holotype).
And thanks!
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FeatheredDino [2017-05-24 20:33:43 +0000 UTC]
I really love this comparison. I actually agree with all your estimates - even though I prefer to list the length over the curves, which would make all those guys like 20 cm longer, I really like how neat it turned out.Β
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randomdinos In reply to ForbiddenParadise64 [2017-05-05 02:10:20 +0000 UTC]
I would say it's probably a subadult Carcharodontosaurus, given it's from the same habitat (no other carcharodontosaurid was found in Albian-Cenomanian North Africa besides C.saharicus and ''Sauroniops'') and it's known from a single not-very-distinguishable bone (it's hard to tell if it has any differences from C.saharicus at all, let alone enough to make it a new genus).
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TheDubstepAddict In reply to Corallianassa [2017-05-04 18:47:09 +0000 UTC]
Nop. That's Rugops
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Corallianassa In reply to TheDubstepAddict [2017-05-04 18:49:30 +0000 UTC]
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TheDubstepAddict In reply to Corallianassa [2017-05-04 18:50:11 +0000 UTC]
Nuu. Rugops litterally means wrinkle face
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Corallianassa In reply to TheDubstepAddict [2017-05-04 18:52:30 +0000 UTC]
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Alpha957 [2017-04-24 18:12:13 +0000 UTC]
I like how the silhouette for Mapusaurus Roseae is rose colored
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grisador [2017-02-27 18:30:04 +0000 UTC]
Awesome Work !Β
Best Predator Emperor Ever !Β
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ThalassoAtrox [2017-02-27 17:41:31 +0000 UTC]
So this would make Giganotosaurus the only theropod larger than T.rex, by just 20 cm, and the largest known land carnivore?Β Since Spinosaurus wasn't much of a terrestrial predator.Β
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kirkseven In reply to ThalassoAtrox [2017-02-28 01:01:00 +0000 UTC]
a slight length advantage wouldn't make it bigger.Β
even assuming it was that long.
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randomdinos In reply to ThalassoAtrox [2017-02-27 22:02:00 +0000 UTC]
Giganotosaurus is the only terrestrial carnivore *longer* than Tyrannosaurus. Size is typically measured in mass, which reaches a known maximum of 8.4 tonnes in Tyrannosaurus against 7.2 in Giganotosaurus. It is possible that there were Giganotosaurus specimens that are larger than currently known tyrannosaurs, but we have no evidence of such specimens.
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kirkseven In reply to randomdinos [2017-02-28 00:59:18 +0000 UTC]
we Don`t even know if it was longer xD.
so far we have 2, probably 3 T.rex specimens at 12.32 meters give or take.
while estimates for theΒ Giganotosaurus seem to currently be 12.25 - 12.40 meters.
so eitherΒ can edge each other out in length ATM.
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JonaGold2000 In reply to ThalassoAtrox [2017-02-27 18:13:10 +0000 UTC]
Well it's possible the dentary represents a smaller animal, the length to the 8th alveol is smaller than in the holotypeΒ by about 1.2% which could mean it's smaller than the holotype.
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105697 [2017-02-26 17:03:59 +0000 UTC]
OOOOOOOOOO.
Nice.
(but you used dentary Giga (heretic!!!!!))
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randomdinos In reply to 105697 [2017-02-26 17:23:34 +0000 UTC]
We will de-mistify this dentary one day, or my name is not randomdinos!
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Evodolka [2017-02-26 16:59:48 +0000 UTC]
fantastic, i didn't expect that small one there
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PCAwesomeness [2017-02-26 16:28:04 +0000 UTC]
Nice!
I bet Giganotosaurus feels a little lonely...
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PCAwesomeness In reply to randomdinos [2017-02-26 17:42:09 +0000 UTC]
"Why must most of my friends be so pathetically small!?"
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