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RedRonin999 — Do you accept the consequences of your actions?

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Published: 2019-01-08 05:19:59 +0000 UTC; Views: 1276; Favourites: 19; Downloads: 2
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Description I honestly didn't really do this one for fun, I just wanted to get my thoughts out.

And I honestly don't think I've said it enough. What this piece correlates to: Chara didn't start the genocide route. Frisk didn't start the genocide route. You did. Just like Chara said at the end: "It was you who pushed everything to its edge. It was you who led the world to its destruction." But like Chara says, most of the players out there "cannot accept it". And as such, the players tend to stick the blame onto Chara or Frisk(more oftenly Chara) and attack them with art and words that degrade them to nothing but absolute killers; and it honestly makes me sick. So this is for all those sinners who did the genocide route and blame Chara or Frisk for doing it.

And as for Flowey... well, I guess it was to make him see that his "kill or be killed" philosophy is not exactly watertight, as he isn't above it.

Enjoy, I guess.

Don't really know if I should put the "mature content" setting on, due to all the blood I put. I'll return to it later.

*Comments are always welcome!*

 **DO NOT USE, EDIT, OR TRACE**  

Undertale, Frisk, Chara and Flowey all belong to Toby Fox.


The "player" in the picture represents those I described above.

Undertale(Frisk, Chara, Flowey): Someone please get them a fist-aid kit.
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Comments: 9

Wagrilous2785 [2022-01-22 02:31:20 +0000 UTC]

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RedRonin999 In reply to Wagrilous2785 [2022-01-22 03:11:57 +0000 UTC]

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TaynahIbanez [2019-02-11 21:57:01 +0000 UTC]

Interesting. I have this opinion too, but I understand that has some people who just want put out their creative ideas for fan comics, fanfics and fannarts. Like TC-96 with Endertale AU. He even said that in a note, because there was a lot of people hating him for putting Chara as antagonist.

I personaly think that "The Player" thing don't work out so well out of the context of the game. So, it's comum the player been propositaly exclude and the blame of genocide relies on Chara's or Frisk's shoulders.

But excluding those cases, it's interesting that you taked very well the concep of "Genocide sinners". When you do the genocide, you have to be ready for taking your fault and assume that you ARE the villian, and even so, people don't accept that and blames everything, but themselves. They blame Chara for finishing the killing, they blame Frisk for a fault that is theiers and blame Flowey for showing us this path. It's like Adam and Even mith:

"We ate the fruit, but just because the snake offered.

But here, genociders says:

"We killed everyone, but just because the flower said so."

But don't worry, villians never accept their fault. It's tipical. Hehe.

I personaly don't have problem with people who blames Chara or Frisk for genocide route, but when they got all angry and make a scene with that, here we have a problem.

Great art concept. Keep on your good work.

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RedRonin999 In reply to TaynahIbanez [2019-02-11 22:33:48 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for your feedback. I guess everyone can have their own opinion of it. Though, honestly, I hate any "Chara-hate" things people make. Besides, they're just a kid for God's sake! A kid probably no older than 10 or 11! Besides, if Chara really was "evil" as most of the fandom claims, they could have just killed the Dreemurrs when they were still alive. But, they didn't. They loved the monsters!

As for the "player being excluded" part you pointed out, I don't think that's the case. 'Cause, in the Sans fight, I think all of his dialogue isn't directed at Frisk or Chara. It's directed at the player, telling them that he's tired of all the resets, and tries to break their determination to complete the route.

And at the end, it's the fourth wall Chara addresses, nobody else.

And yeah, when people get angry and lash out at them because of that route, that's when it gets bad.

I guess it just made me really mad.

Thank you for listening.

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TaynahIbanez In reply to RedRonin999 [2019-02-12 01:36:58 +0000 UTC]

Oh no, I think you misunderstood. When I said about the player been excluded, I wasn't refering about the game, but this as a concept for fancomics and fanfics we see around. For the game, is absolutely crucial. I even think that there's 2 Charas in the game. Cause, you know, "Chara" comes from "CHARACTER". The player itself. When flowey ask us to let Frisk to be happy, he is talking with Chara, the player, not Chara Dreemur that people think is the demon of the history. Chara can be really evil, but not Chara Dreemur, but the "Chara" that is playing.

When we put the player in a storyline like a comic or a fanfic, it breaks all the magic, in my opinion. So, a lot of times this is put aside in name of a good script. I'm not saying that AUs that retrades the player thing are bad, I just don't like it. 

I guess we all have things in the fandom we don't agree. But I hardly get mad with something. The only thing that makes me mad is representation of pedophily or some kind of romantized sexual abuse. For me, at least, that's messed up. But I actually like different headcannons ans interpretations. We have the same headcannon about Chara, though. You won't see me been bad to them, you can rest about it XD. I also see them as the narrator.

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MechanicPluto24 In reply to TaynahIbanez [2019-02-22 16:18:46 +0000 UTC]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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TaynahIbanez In reply to MechanicPluto24 [2019-02-22 16:27:52 +0000 UTC]

You ok, bud?   

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MechanicPluto24 In reply to TaynahIbanez [2019-02-22 16:29:24 +0000 UTC]

Yeah I'm ok

I'm broken internally, depressed beyond infinity, and have an urge to shoot myself whenever the concepts of Glitchtale or evil Frisk and Chara are brought up...

but I'm ok

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TaynahIbanez In reply to MechanicPluto24 [2019-02-22 17:03:29 +0000 UTC]

Uh.... Alright, I guess.    

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