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ReverendTrigster β Red Robin - Beyond
Published: 2009-05-10 00:13:35 +0000 UTC; Views: 102188; Favourites: 840; Downloads: 0
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I've had this on in mind for a while now, though it took some ironing out. At one point this was going to be a straight up Jason Todd/Red Hood design, but as I went along I found the idea of Damien as the Red Robin somewhat more appealing.For those who are wondering, I'm not sure if this would be yet another secret child of Bruce Wayne (I think I'm pushing my luck with Donna Troy as it is.) If he is then he must have been born before Ra's took over Talia's body because the alternative would be...just...wrong.
So who knows, maybe Talia had a fling with Ubu instead!
Kidding!
[Quick Edit]
Changed a few things that were bothering me; separated the boots from the trousers, added a few extra armor plates on the forearms, emphasised the bird shape of the mask a little and made the swords a little more swordlike and less like a pair of sticks.
Other pieces in this series include:-
Titans
Raven (Rachel Roth) [link]
Cyborg (Victor Stone) [link]
Beast Boy (Gar Logan) [link]
Starfire (Koriand'r) 1, [link] & 2, [link]
Terra (Tara Markov) [link]
Titans Together [link]
Birds of Prey
Birds of Prey 1, [link] & 2, [link]
Batgirl Beyond (Cassandra Mcginnes) 1, [link] 2, [link] 3, [link] & Redux, [link]
Oracle Beyond (Maxine Gibson) [link]
Black Canary Beyond (Olivia Lance) [link]
Robin Beyond (Carrie Kelly) 1, [link] & 2, [link]
Huntress Beyond (Helena Walker) [link]
JLU
Wonder Woman Beyond 1, [link] 2, [link]
Supergirl Beyond (Lara Kent) [link]
The Flash Beyond (Isis West) [link]
Flamebird Beyond (Mar'i Elizabeth Kane) [link]
Wonder Girl Beyond (Minerva Sandsmark) [link]
Nightstar (Mar'i Grayson) Beyond [link]
Green Arrow Beyond (Mia Dearden) [link]
Raven Beyond (Branwen Γna Roth) [link]
Donna Troy Beyond 1, [link] 2, [link]
Martian Manhunter & Miss Martian Beyond (J'onn J'onnz and M'gann M'orzz) [link]
Rogues
Harlequin & Enigma (Duala Dent) [link]
Catwoman & Catgirl Beyond (Luna Kyle & Holly Robinson) [link]
Others
Spoiler Beyond (Stephanie Brown) [link]
Azrael (Jean-Paul Valley) [link]
O.M.A.C. - Beyond [link]
Ravager Beyond (Rose Wilson) [link]
Indigo (Alura In-Ze) [link]
Red Robin (Damian al Ghul) [link]
Lady Shiva (Sandra Wu-San) [link]
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I like the Red Robin design, but why did Damian chose that name? Was it just because he's the blood son of Bruce and/or so he could insult the other Robins?
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normally I'm against amalgamations of characters, but this looks friggen awesome!Β
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I like this art style, reminds me of the Bruce Timm era of the DCAU. Damian being Red Robin and the design actually looks fitting for him, knowing what he's like and all. Almost like a melding of Red Hood with a more armored bat costume. I like it
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Damian becomes Red Robin, instead of Tim Drake, because of the Joker Incident?
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I still think he's got to be Bruce's son. Damien's character is better that way
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Oh I don't know... the whole 'good love child' and 'bad love child' of Batman doesn't seem all that out there. The girl who became the new wonder woman, the boy who became the new leader of the league of assasains
And both perfect examples of WHY Bruce stayed retired and became a recluse - neither able to handle the possiblity of being Batman
An almost Azula/Zuko sort of taste - they know their related but they hate each other because of differing mothers and upbringings. Very approachable idea imo
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srry but his last name is wayne not al ghul
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Not in this version of non-existent continuity it isn't!
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I think I like this on the most, or maybe Donna Troy2 or Duala Dent, but it seems to me that he would make a better Red Hood than Red Robin. Speaking of Red Hood, when do we get to see Red Hood beyond?
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he looks like deadpool. but thts wht i think. still very great
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His super power is serving hambugers... YUM!!!! Ya get it?
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i was just about to say that
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Yeah. I have a BUNCH of friends that make THE SAME JOKE EVERY TIME we talk about Tim Drake. It gets old after awhile.
And holy cow, Dude! I made this comment a LONG time ago!
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He's Damian Wayne, not Al-Ghul. Remember Bruce is his dad.
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I think you're getting your continuities crossed mate.
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You are a GENIOUS!!!!!!!
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Well according to canon, Talia and Bruce did intend to get married, much to Ra's' glee for some reason, but Talia faked a miscarriage to protect Damian from her father, whose body was apparently wearing down, cancelling the marriage, delivering Damien in secret before sending him to train with the society of assassins for a while, only introducing him to Bruce, and vice versa, several years later in order to ask Bruce to protect their son from her father.
While initially a rocky relationship, Damian eventually came to love his father, almost a much as his mother, and had tremendous respect for him, to the point he took up the Mantle of Robin when Dick Grayson (Nightwing) temporarily took up the cowl during Bruce's 'death'. However, because of his assassin's upbringing, he apparently had a hard time adjusting to the 'Thou shalt not kill' aspect of the Batman Familly.
As such, I can see Damien learning of his mother's fate and leaving the 'Robin' Mantle behind (either returning it to Tim Drake or whatever) in order to seek revenge, only to return later, probably having tracked Ra's to Neo Gotham, reuniting with his Father and Half-brother and taking up the 'Red Robin' Mantle once more after learning of Ras al Talia's death, in order to help his unknowing sibling battle crime in Neo Gotham.
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awesome work on the costumes and character concept
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I like it much more than the original costume.
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Nice combo between Jason Todd Red Hood, and Red Robin.
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wooooooooooooooooaaaaaahhhh.......... i dont agree with this atall i need to ball up somewhere dark and quick
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Coool! Ninja style. Like the armor and the style. Damian looks also very interesting...I like this! Truth be told, it would be far fetched if maybe Donna was Bruce's kid, cause they might have feelings but logically, they didn't do anything maybe cause of their duties and other things. Also in the Batman Beyond episode where Talia appears, no picture of Wonder Woman was there. This might mean they didn't go that far.
If he is Bruce's other secret child, well, Terry would be in trouble. If this Damian is like anything in the comics...then he would sure be mad. Plus, he gives me the anti hero vibe. It would make sense that he was grown in an artificial womb like in the comics and maybe why Bruce never knew. Would he have met Terry or is he maybe an adversary of Cassandra's? Or is he a descendant of the al Ghul?
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I had a very specific scenario in mind for Donna's origins and it needn't involve Bruce and Diana rocking the casbah or even being in the same room.
In a nutshell it'd go something like this: -
At some point between JLU & BB Bruce goes missing, presumed dead in some big fight (maybe the occasionally mentioned "near apocalypse of '09", maybe not) and all they find is a torn and blood stained cowl and a lock of hair. Diana takes it badly as one might imagine and after some time (a few months to a year) succumbs to grief and tries to bring him back using the same method her mother brought her to life. I'm thinking she's at home of the island at midnight in the middle of a violent rain storm, in a fit of rage and grief clawing together a clay figure with her bare and bloodied hands. Placing the lock of hair and a scrap of the blood stained cowl inside it she demands the gods bring him back. They refuse, but being the gods they decide to instead bring the clay to life. The result is Donna; a mixture of Bruce and Diana's blood. Later when Bruce reappears (not dead after all, obviously) Diana decides not to tell him about Donna and keeps her to raise on the island as an Amazon.
As for Damien here, I tend to see him as a semi-antagonist for Cass. Not so much as an advisory as a dangerous influence. Sort of a dark father figure. I'm not too attached to the idea that he's Bruce's actual son, though that's certainly what he's been raised to believe whatever the reality may be. I'm thinking he's probably some orphan Ras/Talia raised and groomed to act as "Bruce's" son, heir and a replacement for Terry after the planned body-swap. When that didn't happen, he was basically on his own.
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Wow...Poor Diana, that makes me sad ;( I hope she reacted...well, in a good way when Bruce turned out to be alive. Would Donna ever find out the truth?
For Damian it does make sense if he was an neutral guy, or semi-antagonist for Cass as you put it. Being adopted also makes sense...but I wouldn't put the 'experimenting' past Ra's al Ghul. They are capable of getting Bruce's DNA and then do sth similar to what Walker did about Terry. I wouldn't put it past them.
Plus, it would kind of tell the age difference if he is...ummm...how old do you have him here? And would Cass really think of him as maybe a father, cause I also wanted to ask...is Terry dead in her time? *wonders*
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Oh and as for his age, I'd say he was about Terry's age but since he's been using the Lazarus pit, he won't look his age.
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You know, I'm not sure if Donna would be told who her father was or not. Both scenarios have dramatic potential. Mind you, keeping it secret from her might be a little too similar to Terry's back-story so it's probably not idea to go down that road twice.
On a similar note, having Daimien as just another Terry might be pushing it a bit too much. It's feasible enough that he was chosen from a great many young candidates for the role (and the only one to survive.) Still, he does look a lot like Terry so perhaps there was some postnatal DNA splicing going on. Maybe a combination of Bruce and Talia plus whoever he was before. Probably a homeless street urchin from some very nasty third world slum. A survivor.
As for Terry being dead...good question. If you haven't found it already, I wrote up a bunch of notes on some of the characters and setting and posted it on the journal. [link]
That should answer some of your questions.
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Nice. Very similar to Red Hood from Under the Red Hood.
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As I said in the description, it started out as a Red Hood design, so the similarities shouldn't be too shocking.
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i love red robin comics but the name was ruined for me because of the restaurant. now when i read the comic and i see the title i think "red robin!yum!
P.S. i LOVE the pic!
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Red Robin?
YUUUM.
LOL Sorry, I JUST had to do it. OTL
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Glad you enjoyed it.
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Yes. Yes I did.
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looking at your stuff dude, can't find something I don't like.
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