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My fourth "collab" with SpectorKnight. It involves me coloring his awesome lineart. It helps fill my gallery, so no complaints on my part.Since this might be a regular thing (at least until I've found a new game to dedicate my time), I'm just gonna copy and paste this message from now on. Unless I have new info to add.
Beautiful lineart (as always) by
Colors by me. I'm quite proud of this one!
For more naruto characters in his lovely style please go to 's gallery.
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Comments: 42
ricE-su In reply to alvichi [2010-07-28 00:36:33 +0000 UTC]
aw, thank you so much! I'm glad it worked. I'm tried to replicate the same colors again for another Ino collab. But it looks so different .
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alvichi In reply to ricE-su [2010-07-28 03:51:44 +0000 UTC]
you're welcome X3
It's hard to get it just right more than one time but i still think you did a great job on the new one
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ricE-su In reply to alvichi [2010-07-29 13:31:10 +0000 UTC]
Thanks very much! All you can do sometimes is try your best
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alvichi In reply to ricE-su [2010-07-29 16:42:35 +0000 UTC]
you're welcome. ^_^
that's true *w*
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ricE-su In reply to AsukaLangleySoryu [2010-07-26 01:53:44 +0000 UTC]
Thank you so much! Although, I did not draw it
. Wish I did though cos Ino's one of my fave kunoichi. This lineart was particularly good. I just colored it
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AsukaLangleySoryu In reply to ricE-su [2010-08-03 03:30:26 +0000 UTC]
Ah. Ino is awesome, but Temari's my fav. xD Considering she has a higher win streak then most female characters in this show.
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ricE-su In reply to AsukaLangleySoryu [2010-08-04 20:29:38 +0000 UTC]
Good point . I've yet to see a female win streak besides Temari. haha
Thanks for commenting. Glad you like it
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ricE-su In reply to sakura-101 [2010-07-24 22:55:31 +0000 UTC]
Thank you always! I'm glad you like it
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GarJes [2010-07-24 21:37:27 +0000 UTC]
Not an Ino fan but beautiful coloring as always! Cute smile!
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ricE-su In reply to GarJes [2010-07-24 22:50:30 +0000 UTC]
Thank you! I did my best (but results vary sometimes). I liked this one though.
Which naruto characters are you a fan of? name 1 guy, 1 girl, or more if you want.
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GarJes In reply to ricE-su [2010-07-24 22:59:36 +0000 UTC]
I really like Sakura because her punches are insane XD!! And Neji. He's...the first anime guy i "fangirled" over. I learned the art of fangirling from a friend who's a HUGE naruto fan. Her squeeing is contagious LOL!
I liked Hinata before I discovered that her fanbased turned her into a sex icon, and that Kishi's portrayal of her only made that worse.
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ricE-su In reply to GarJes [2010-07-25 23:53:22 +0000 UTC]
Neji, eh? I thought he was cool too. Until my sister kept pointing out that he beat a girl half to death... and it probably 'the' weakest girl too. I never looked at him the same again =__=;
Sakura is alright but I always thought she was a bit soulless- always letching after Sasuke. She's like an Ino-Karin clone. Sure, Sasuke is good-looking and a male, but that doesn't make him a man.
Still, Sakura is pretty gutsy and strong. So she's not all bad.
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GarJes In reply to ricE-su [2010-07-26 00:20:57 +0000 UTC]
LOL! When i first saw him in the anime i hated his guts. In fact, i couldn't figure out how anyone could like him after beating up the weakest girl half to death (Hinata, his cousin). But he get his butt kicked by Naruto and Naruto's saintly righteous self turned him to the "good side". Now he's respected by his uncle and is in a good standing relationship with Hinata. He got a lot better and stopped being a jerkface. I like him a lot now.
LOL! Sakura was pathetic in the beginning. Annoying and needy. But I like how she turned out too. Especially her mega punch of doom.I think her fangirlism over Sasuke turned into genuine love after he left the village and bla bla bla. Whatever though haha. She kicks butt with an awesome punch and I like that.
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ricE-su In reply to GarJes [2010-07-26 11:50:17 +0000 UTC]
I guess its true that Neji did redeem himself. He also mellowed out too. Now that you mention it. It was probably this reason that I disliked him less as the series progressed.
I think if Sakura loved Sasuke so much, he should end up with him. I hope Naruto gets a better pairing.
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GarJes In reply to ricE-su [2010-07-26 11:54:38 +0000 UTC]
Me too. I'm a SasuSaku fan and a NaruHina fan. Hinat'as obviously obssessed with Naruto hah.
Do you read the manga?
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ricE-su In reply to GarJes [2010-07-26 12:16:32 +0000 UTC]
I read the manga religiously every week. I even read the latest chapter once on the morning of a university exam to calm my nerves.
I like your pairings a lot, I wouldn;t have it any other way. I suppose you read the manga too.
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GarJes In reply to ricE-su [2010-07-26 12:19:10 +0000 UTC]
om gLOL
I got pissed when Sakura "confessed" to Naruto, Knew it was fake but hated that Kishi brought her down to that level, and hated that rabid NaruSaku fans took it so far. I also hate the way Sasuke's been behaving. He's manic and insane.
I've been reading on it too. Major sexist statement last week to Kurenai. Kushina's being put on the backburner again with Minato choosing to call the shots. Typical Kishi...
I wanna see Sakura's birth and family background x.x
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ricE-su In reply to GarJes [2010-07-27 23:15:14 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, I hope Sasuke gets STDs from Itachi's eyes.
haha. I thought you said major 'sexy' comment from Kurenai. I was thinking where?? LOL.
Sexist... perhaps. But I think Kishi teaches some good ethics. Men should protect women. I would be more worried if he showed women getting beaten up like men.
Unlike a lot of other manga, Naruto does portrays women as being just as gutsy as the men. I have to give Kishi credit there.
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GarJes In reply to ricE-su [2010-07-28 05:06:59 +0000 UTC]
STDs from Itachi's eyes LMAO!!!!
Ethics....well....yes I can see that. But what he's doing is, he's reinforcing the gender-divided roles of modern first-world societies. Men are the bread winners, women are the home-makers. Sure, its cute that Kishi may be saying "man up, protect your women!". But his presentation is sexist... telling Kurenai that "nope, you can fight because you need to pop out some babies for me even though you're a ninja."
And thats the thing that gets me. Kurenai is a NINJA. The purpose of a ninja, especially according to the naruto universe, is to protect the village and bla bla bla. He...Kishi...is stripping her of that Ninja code by having her grandfather put her in place as the home-maker, baby factory.
Although it's interesting. It's the same with the military. Sure, women are involved in the military, but they're heavily restricted from many areas, such as the infantry, that are deemed more "dangerous". Even though the female enters the military for the benefits or out of a genuine sense of patriotism, she is still sheltered by the military and the civilians as a delicate flower unsuitable for heavy combat. It's the world of masculinity that we live in.
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ricE-su In reply to GarJes [2010-07-29 14:16:20 +0000 UTC]
whoa! You realy like to argue your point. I like that. Cos so do I. It is this reason that I feel we can have these discussions (or I guess you can call it a debate).
I see your argument very clearly. The scene with Kurenai can indeed be viewed as sexist. However, I feel it is more to do with the duality of the female gender role. Kurenai is a ninja but at the same time it would be a shame if she would never become a MOTHER. It is not just a one-sided thing, it is a selfish request on her father's part- he 'wants' to be a grandfather. Its obviously something that he'll be very proud of. I see it as no more different than Asuma's speech about inheriting the "will of fire" to Shikamaru and also the 3rd Hokage's speech about seedlings. Perhaps you should see it in a different light, men are nothing without things to protect. After all, they can not bear children themselves. Papa Kurenai's little rant is simply saying live life to the fullest and experience the joys of being a mother.
Similarly, I'd like to say that if men do not step up for women... then chivalry will truely be dead.
This would mean: no more paying for meals (well, at least I do), no more opening doors for a lady, no more being nice to women when they are pregnant. Heck, if one really wants to talk about equality then women should take punches to the face like a man...
That would be a very scary world.
We have enough men who abuse women. I think it would be sad if even this last little bit of chivalry is hunted down and terminated. If that is the case, then I guess it can really be said that chivalry is dead because women killed it.
And with regards to your point about the military. One must recognise that physically men and women are built differently (some argue emotionally as well. But that has more to do with nuture, I think). You can blame God's creation for that. Otherwise, men and women would all do the same manual labour and share the same boxing ring.
Sorry if I sound I'm ranting. This is all just my opinion, of course.
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GarJes In reply to ricE-su [2010-07-29 14:54:04 +0000 UTC]
Ah, noooo problem at all! I ranted a bunch to you too LOL! Yah, ya know, when it comes down to it, the choice is up to the woman. Kurenai dosen't seem to mind being a mother now that she has one on the way. Now, whether the woman's choice is due to nature or nurture is up for debate. I think its both. In contrast, if a woman really wants to fight, well, she'll have a hard time getting there, but she should at least be allowed the oppertunity to do so.
I don't see a flaw in God's design. God did make man and woman to compliment each other. There's a physical difference to women and men, but that dosent mean women are incapable of being strong. Same thing with men. They're seen and expected to maintain this invisible strength, a dominance and emotional invulnerability. But that dosen't mean that can't feel or be emotional like a woman. It's the society's boundaries that disallows a woman to be strong, if she needs to, or a man to be emotional, if he needs to. It's the human construct of gender roles that I think is flawed. We are imperfect beings, after all.
I'm fore chivalry. it is a dying breed. But yes, women also kill it too with this radical feminist movement going on. Masculinity is defined by all things feminine. Both men and women have strengths and weaknesses in different areas that make them both an equally valued piece of each other when brought together as a whole.
With that said, i hate it when men and women do things or make excuses to jip out of their obligations. Like men making babies and then ditching the pregnant woman to handle the baggage. And women abandoning their family and husband to pursue a career in the name of 'independence'.
I myself have never felt any compelling desire to have children. I played with dolls when i was little. I played "house", I played the baby of the family and the mama of the family in the pretend world. I dreamed of being a princess riding on unicorns. But i just never had any interest to have a child, and therefore, no interest in marrying, since my beliefs only allow childbearing after marriage. The reasons for this are multi-faceted. I was scared of babies and children, very scared. Still am. I carry a lot of insecurities about any ability to be a mother due to my vision impairment. BI also adhered to my religious beliefs and never saw any value in getting a boyfriend in high school or middle school, and now, in college because of the shallowness and silliness I saw in those who did, growing up. I'm not completely closed off to the possibility of marrying. If a time comes to where it presence a strong desire in my life then I'll consider it. Until then, i'm content with being single despite the modern day culture screaming at me to get a guy, get laid, party, drink, and 'live it up'.
Where the heck am i going with this? Anyway, to sum, Men and women are different but compliment each other. They're not flawed in design in my opinion, but in the way society dictates and restrains certain behaviors. IF a woman or a man has a desire to break some of those norms, then they should at least be given the opportunity to do so. Just because society says women can't fight, or men can't cry, dosen't mean it's true, or right.
Kurenai, however, is a fictional character, not a real person. Kurenai is controlled by a Japanese man who has grown up in a society that has very strict rules about the behaviors of men and women. Men being the defenders, women placing their buts in the kitchen and making the babies. He expresses that with his women and men in the Manga. The men defend, the women stand back. Even Tsunade who's the hokage, and Konan who's among the Akatsuki have relatively weak offensive skills and are hardly seen physically fighting in combat.
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ricE-su In reply to GarJes [2010-07-30 20:15:11 +0000 UTC]
Continuing from points that you have touched upon, I think it doesn't make a man any less of a real man to cry. Likewise, women should be credit for demonstrating qualities that are usually associated with men such as bravery.
Although I think true equality of the sexes will not provide the desired results, I am all for equal opportunity.
And I think hit the nail on the head when you said we are flawed beings. Not one is perfect except for God.
As you said, women do not really ever take centre stage in Naruto. It can be viewed in one of two ways- Kishi being sexist or Kishi being protective. Maybe he doesn't want to deal with female fights and gruesome deaths. But perhaps its more of the latter. After all, Kishi is a Japanese man who embodies his country's ethics and morality.
Lastly, I'd like to address your feelings of being different. As a strict Christian myself (although never explicitly mentioned, I presume you are), I too have met with many challenges in life. So understand how you feel.
Let me tell you that I admire your 'no pressure' approach. There is absolutely no need to jump on the bandwagon. If life's journey can be compared with a trip on a canoe, then in life you'll probably meet many people but only befriend a few. The most important thing, would be that you always paddle your own canoe. Don't let other people take control of your life. I am only too familiar with the effects of peer pressure.
Getting a boyfriend etc. It is all meaningless if you don't find the right one. Compromising your free time (which can be spend doing the stuff you enjoy) to be faced with some guy you don't even like that much is a waste of life. Sure its fun at first but it'll get dry quick.
Furthermore, speaking from a guy's point of view, I find that there is nothing more attractive in a girl than for her be different from the others. A lot of girls make the immature mistake of being with the "wrong" guy. Some say its a learning process that 'every' girl has to go through. But sometimes, I just think: "Why can't you stop being a sheep like everyone else?" No guy wants a sheep.
So, bravo to you. I mean it. And with regards to no childbearing before marrige. I concur. Because as a Christian, I strongly believe that sex is marriage. No compromises there.
Don't worry so much about yourself and your impairment. I have faith that you're on the right track. So just take it easy. Worse case scenario, you can always pray
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GarJes In reply to ricE-su [2010-07-31 15:51:20 +0000 UTC]
I don't even think "true equality of the sexes" is even possible. Anthropologically speaking, there hasn't been a single society in which the female is completely dominant over men. There are near-situations. But there always remains for the woman an unattainable symbolism or deed that only the men is allowed to perform.
That, and again, we're such flawed beings prone to sin. I do believe that through Christ in a partnered relationship as in with Marriage, anything is possible. Yes, I'm a devote believer too ^^
Why go with the flow because 'everyone's doing it'? Though it is harder to go against the flow, that's the life of a Christian. And for the sufferings that come along with the task of being in the world but not of it, a great reward awaits us in heaven, our true home.
Eh If God wants me to marry, he'll let me know On the contrary though, Prayer is the BEST thing we can do. Nothing is possible without it after all ^^
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ricE-su In reply to GarJes [2010-08-04 20:09:24 +0000 UTC]
You're probably right about "true equality never being a reality" but this made me think... Heroism entails a lot of ugly things. Glory is no doubt the only aspect that everyone focuses on. But being a hero usually involves a lot blood, sweat and tears that would be unlady-like for the fairer sex. Think about it. If Naruto was replaced by a Naruko. I would feel a little sad to have the fate of Konoha burdened on a single girl.
Kushina' s dream was always to become Hokage. I'm sure she's a little disappointed to have never realised her dream. But I'm confident (if she were a real person)that she's even prouder to have married a Hokage and have a son who will be Hokage. This is not to say that she should stop being a ninja and stay at home. It just says that she married someone who can protect her. This can be contrasted with Tsunade who, although arguably the strongest in Konoha, intimidates men and thus remains single.
My apologies, if I come across as a little sexist.
Being a Christian is a great thing. Although it does not necessary mean higer morals, it is a good way of like. And without faith, life just seems pointless and sad. Marriage is encouraged in the Bible, but a single life is by no means a sin. Just take it easy, you can live a very fulfilling life regardless.
Agreed, a true Christian would argue that there is no point in getting too worked up about the obstacles in this life because the real life begins after this one ends.
Believe in the power of prayer as it is in God that we trust.
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GarJes In reply to ricE-su [2010-08-05 01:06:43 +0000 UTC]
Amen to that.
^^ Thanks
*sigh*
There was a proposition in the state of California that was repealed by a federal judge and deemed as 'unconstitutional'. It banned the marriage of same-sex couples. Talking about marriage and the bible brought this to mind. It makes me feel gross on the inside and very unhappy.
I don't know what your position is on homosexuality. It's strictly forbidden from the bible and definitely not natural in nature (you dont see two lady monkeys going at it do you? *pukes*) It's the lifestyle that upsets me, and the blind, "open minded" support for that life style that upsets me too- not the person themselves. It's sin, just like murdering and stealing and adultery are sins. Marriage is a sacred bond between a man, woman, and God. It's being defiled more and more these days it seems. Adultery, divorce, now the increases acceptance and legalizing of gay marriages?
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ricE-su In reply to GarJes [2010-08-10 22:44:48 +0000 UTC]
haha. I noticed that you thought I was a girl before. But now that you recount our previous conversations, it makes sense that I'm a guy.
Anyways, I can always offer a guy's point of view to any situation when you need it. Who knows? Might come in handy some time.
With regards to the proposition, I know where you're coming from. I'm an avid follower of the bible, so, naturally, I'm unhappy too.
The bible clearly states that a marital union is between a man and a women. If God intended sexual relations between man & man or womam & woman, he would have created Adam and Alex or Eve and Evelyn.
If homosexuality is indeed innate, i.e. born with, then I think... its okay... provided they don't engage in any bedroom activities. Because even though not directly forbidden in the bible, it is against the will specificied by God. Hence can be viewed as unnnatural. By the way, science has suggested that there are homosexual animals... i think monkies was one of the creatures mentioned. So that argument won't float. However, I do believe that God created a balance for everything, perhaps sexually transmitted diseases are the counter-balance.
On the other hand, I have reason to believe that homosexuality is more due to nuture. There is a certain tv stereotype that seems to go along with a lot of gay individuals. For starters, they always seem to fall under the categories of flamboyant, querky and super-camp. I just don't get it. Furthermore, if homosexuality is inborn, then why do a lot of people (men especially) suddenly come out of the closet in prison. Surely, its not as easy as turning on a switch. Does the illusive 'gay trigger' really exist? If so, they you and me both are at risk...
At the end of the day, although not clearly stated as a sin, it does make a lot of Christians feel uncomfortable. I guess, I'm gonna leave it at that.
In a world were men don't act like men and women don't act like women, I'm not surprised that adultery and divorce is on the rise. Both parties are to blame here.
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GarJes In reply to ricE-su [2010-08-10 23:16:39 +0000 UTC]
LOL as we say in my circle "It's Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve!"
Well, IF homosexually IS innate, we would have seen it in the primitive behaviors of animals. Which...i'm not sure will stick since i'm not familair with what science says about homosexual monkeys. (lmao!) But I do know that science is flawed too. Science also tries to attribute homosexuality as a predetermined part of the human brain, therefore giving a person the excuse that "they can't help themselves"...which I thin kis bull.
Any homosexual activity is viewed as a vulgar sin in the bible. I hate the lifestyle. I think the "gay trigger" you speak of, or that supposed vulnerability, is rooted in Original Sin, rice. Meaning, we're ALL prone to it because of this old, disgusting, sinful nature that is morbidly attracted and allured to the ways of sin. If not homosezuality, then thievery, murder, slander, adultry, and so on. In recent translation of the bible, homosexualy is considered sin. There are plenty of examples of this, a prime example being Sadom and Gomorra. Christians are so uncomfortable with it because it wasn't in God's original plan- it never happened before the fall of man. And, he doesn't condone it. Sure, one can argue there may not be any explicit direction in saying Homosexuality is sinful (which I disagree to, I see plenty of strict instructions that teach against it). But, the bible DOSEN"T bluntly and outwardly approve of it, and that should make it clear.
Yes, man and women, both of us are to blame for these sins. To include divorce and adultry. They're just as bad as homosexuality and unfaithfulness and so on. Original sin. Thats what it comes down to. We need the saving Grace of Jesus Christ to overcome any of these and fight against its temptations.
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ricE-su In reply to GarJes [2010-08-19 22:19:02 +0000 UTC]
"If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads." Leviticus 20:13.
I guess this clenches the argument. Homosexualty is indeed forbidden. However, I don't argee with the punishment of stoning or any form of capital punishment for that matter.
Science has creeped its way in to our daily lives, trying to explain away a lot of things. For starters, it was science that said corporal mentally scar children. I used to know someone who turned out gay, his mother used to indulge his love of barbie dolls and dresses (yes, that too). It is in this case that I think a little pat on the head can be a positive reinforcement.
Apparently, homosexuality in animals is not uncommon.
I like your explanation of original sin by the way.
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GarJes In reply to ricE-su [2010-08-19 23:21:45 +0000 UTC]
Ah, that book came to mind when we were discussing this earlier. I remember the first five explicitly labeling homosexuality as a sin. But the stoning part dosent really apply anymore. Apply? is that word too strong? I don't mean to imply that its okay to be gay and sexually active, or that we should dismiss the deed. On the other hand, I'm also siding with you in that, outright stoning isn't necessary either.
John 8:1-11 gives the story of the pharisees bringing a woman caught in the act of adultery to Jesus and made reference to the verse you pointed out. Levitticus, being a part of the Law of Moses "In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?" (John 8:5)
If you know the story, you know that Jesus didn't do anything to make a move to stone her, or encourage her stoning. He responded with the now famous words taken from verse 7 "When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, 'If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her'."
The mosaic covenant between God and the people of Israel, and the law within that covenant commanding death by stoning in certain cases no longer has an effect. This is because Jesus Christ died on the cross and completed the work in bearing all of the sins of all the people in the world: past, present, and future. Taking the punishment on himself so that we might be saved. It brings me to the conclusion that yes, "If a man lies with another man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is nestable ..." BUT salvation and freedom from that death, from the punishment of sins is offered to each and every one of us sinners to take. And once we are in Christ, there is no conviction or condemnation. In other words, there's hope and forgiveness offered at the cross. The greatest of all deeds that Jesus did on that day nullifies the capital punishments dictated by the mosaic law the Israelite and the Jews have been living under. Jesus took the wrath of God on himself and paid that penalty. It doesn't apply anymore- unless the person refuses to accept Christ as Lord and Savior. Then their only destination is not only physical death, but spiritual death as well.
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ricE-su In reply to GarJes [2010-09-04 20:56:46 +0000 UTC]
"he who is without cast the first stone" thus stoning, as you said, is unnecessary. Who knows, people have a habit of changing their hearts.
There are a few contradictions in the Bible, if one must go by the book word for word then stealing would mean losing your hands. And women would not be allowed to preach. Although I'm not denying that the Bible is the word of God, it is written by humans.
All in all, I believe in a loving God. And no matter what anyone preaches, that image in my head will not change. And like you said in your very well written last paragraph, salvation is available only because of God's love for us.
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GarJes In reply to ricE-su [2010-09-05 04:20:45 +0000 UTC]
Well, those 'contradictions' are only 'contradictions' when people take them out of context and apply them to suit their needs/ideas. You really have to pay attention to who's writting it, when they're writing it, what the cultural significance is behind it, and how it falls into place with the rest of the letter or scripture.
The word is without error, i believe, because it was inspired by God. It's the many translations that I think can give confusion.
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SpectorKnight [2010-07-24 21:36:07 +0000 UTC]
Awesome! Her expression looks exactly like I wanted it to originally. The colours are exquisite (and rightfully so, for such an exquisite ninja). Great job!
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ricE-su In reply to SpectorKnight [2010-07-24 22:55:00 +0000 UTC]
Thank you!! Ino has my favourite shade of purple. She's also hot.
Strangely enough, I wanted to color your Ino from the start. Her pose was very attractive.
I already liked her sexy expression very much, but I did remember you saying that you had intented for her to be more playful-looking.
I'm glad it worked out. Banzai to another good co-op!
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SpectorKnight In reply to ricE-su [2010-07-24 22:57:52 +0000 UTC]
Actually, Ino was the first character I'd drawn on that page, and the first character from Naruto I'd tried to draw period. I'm tickled pink (a manly shade of pink, mind you) that you did such a great job on her.
Booyah!
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ricE-su In reply to SpectorKnight [2010-07-26 11:45:56 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, man! Booyah !
Its the first girl you drew and the first girl who immediately grabbed my attention on that page.
Hopefully, I'll get time to do a sequel
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SpectorKnight In reply to ricE-su [2010-07-26 18:47:26 +0000 UTC]
Thanks. And don't worry about time. The best things in life are free, and if free colored art takes a while to get done, I can live with that.
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ricE-su In reply to SpectorKnight [2010-07-27 23:43:29 +0000 UTC]
Cheers, dude! Very well said
Slowly but surely is what I always say
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