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"You think choosing is as easy as it sounds?"I know this will shock some fellow puzzleshippers, but I honestly do like Anzu. She's not that amazing of a character most of the time, but I do like her existence.
Also, I wanted to have a reason to draw boobs, so... Anzu.
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She didnβt look great, she looked like a beautiful angel.
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well i dont hate anzu cuz she gets in the way of puzzleship (ok maybe thats actually part of it XD)
but its cuz shes so stupid and useless and even tho yuugi cared so much about her shes just after atem because he seems cooler and better. and she even got in danger on purpose just to see atem that is just so mean. and even rebecca is better cuz at least rebecca likes yuugi for who he is and anzu is just after her crush DX
LOL im pretty sure theres a lot of girls in shounen anime/manga with boobs tho XD
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Anzu isn't really that stupid, though. She's a lot smarter than people give her credit for. I do agree that it was horrible of her to endanger herself to see Yami, but she is a teenager and I have a feeling a lot of people do that to gain attention from people they like. Rebecca isn't that far from Anzu in that respect, since they're both after their crushes. People can't really help who they fall for and Anzu is the type to wish for a, well... A masculine type of a guy, who can protect her from harm. I don't really care for that type of mentality myself, but it's not really that uncommon. I can't really buy Rebecca's affection, though, since she barely even knows Yuugi. They didn't spend much time together before she got all over him, but maybe I'm just blind to it. Wouldn't be the first time...
In the end, love is a very complicated thing and I can somewhat relate to Anzu's feelings towards Yuugi and Yami. Doesn't necessarily make it right, but humans do what they feel is right or what makes them feel good.
But of course, it's up to you if you hate her or not. I just like to voice my opinion about it, since I'm kind of tired of all the Anzu bashing. XD You do you, though.
And true. The first shounen anime to pop into my mind is the orange haired wench from Bleach. Oh man dem titties.
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well i dont see how shes smart? she almost died so many times if it werent for atem.Β
and shes super weak at dueling, and she calls for yuugi's help too much.
and rebecca's crush is more resonable. she liked yuugi's kindness and she even changed herself to impress him.Β
while anzu had a crush on atem because she heard a voice and thats even more lame than love at first sight.
like at least rebeccca dueled with yuugi but anzu didnt even know atem existed but he has a nice voice so she fell in love with the voice. wow -.-
and anzu never cared about yuugi more than a friend but at the last episode she magically started cheering for yuugi.
it just made no sense. and i feel like the author just wants peachshippers to be happy and just forced that in.
thats true, i dont really understand love either lol. i think its cuz i can relate to rebecca more? XD
i agree with that too. everyone has their own sense of justice i guess XD
sameee here, its interesting to debate on this XD
but im the opposite cuz i love anzu bashing so im happy to find ppl who bashes her lol~~
OMG I HATE BLEACHHHHHH i used to be a super fan but then the ending ruined everything DX i hated orihime she was like another anzu except worse cuz shes even more useless and selfish and she got so many people in danger and she had a crush on ichigo for literally no reason (to this day i still dont get why she has a huge crush on him and it wasnt explained at all (at least not in the anime)) DX i feel so bad for ichigo for marrying that kinda person omg he deserves so much better DX
and honestly bleach wasnt meant for romance. if the author had to pair ichigo with a girl it shouldve rukia DX
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Many people have done the same. If it weren't for Atem, his friends wouldn't be in danger as much. Jou has gotten himself in trouble as well and it was Yuugi or Yami who ended up saving him.
Again, being weak at something doesn't make a person stupid. Not everyone can be great at it. It's not something she's interested in. Heck, I don't like playing the card game much, but I love the show. Does that make me stupid? Then again... *cough* She has her intuition and her empathy, even if it is countered with her lusting over Yami.
I suppose. I just don't like when people change themselves over someone they love. Well, Rebecca did change from being an asshole to a less of an asshole, so at least that was good.
A lot of people gain crushes over people based on their voice. I love many voice actors and their voices make me all tingly, even though I have never even seen some of their faces and I doubt I'm the only one. And really, who wouldn't fall in love with Yami's voice? Granted, I still love Yuugi's more, but you know.
I think Anzu realized it was better for Yami, or Atem, to go back to his world as well, so naturally she would cheer for Yuugi. Besides, no-one can force feelings onto themselves. Anzu can't magically start loving Yuugi if he isn't her type. She can still cheer for him all the same. But I do agree on some of the aspects of it, that the pairing may have been forced on us a little. Still, those two never seemed to get together, if I'm correct. In the movie, she moved abroad as well.
Justice or opinions, whichever you care to call it. Humans tend to base their opinions on the strangest of sources and I'm like that, too. Thankfully, at this age, I've learned to look at things more openly. It's not always so easy, though.
Well, we better not talk much about this topic then, since I can't stand such close-minded mentality on the bashing part and my speech is probably no better on you. 
There's not much I can say about that, since I never watched it 'till the end.Β
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well Jounouchi was weak at first but he learned and he improved as the series goes on. He was even so close to win against malik.Β
and he even saved yuugi many times too.
but anzu never learns and she was just after her crush.Β
thats different, cuz u r watching for entertainment. its not like u can become a serious duelist in real life anyways
anzu had zero character development and she got in trouble too many times but still doesnt repent. and her only purpose was being a love interest for yuugi but she had a crush on atem this whole time so she gotta have a change of heart at the last fight cuz or else her purpose is lost -.-
i think rebecca changed for the better tho. her previous personality was so annoying but she wanted to become better for yuugi.
ok thats also different. i also have seiyuu crushes but its not like im gonna attempt to die hoping they will come to my rescue -.-
that is true, i love his voice too but thats clearly not the same. anzu has a super crush to the point its overboard and so not gonna happen in reality.Β
and thats what i thought was weird. she even said she liked the other yuugi better. yuugi was never her type from the start but she magically ended up liking him better? seems so unlikely.
but i think ur theory of that she thinks its better for him to go to the other world makes more sense.Β
lol probly the author realized theres too much puzzleshippers and revolutionshippers (honestly revolutionship is more real than peachship) and itll be bad if he upsets all of us XD
sameeeeee but i still believes in my own opinion the most lol.Β
i agree with u on that XD and it seems like we r never gonna have the same opinion on this XD
lucky youuuu i watched most of it DXΒ
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Well, that is true, I will give you that.
Still, basing someone's intellectual skills on card games is kind of silly, or saying someone is weak because of it. Then again, in a world where everything is taken care of by playing card games, I can kind of see where you are coming from. I don't completely agree with it, but I can understand it.
What I can agree with, is that most of Anzu's point (especially at the beginning of the manga) was to be something pretty to look at. That's not really something I truly appreciated, but she got better. Well, not so much in the anime, since many characters seemed to get fucked over in the show. In the manga, Anzu and Yuugi had a scene that I kind of liked, where Yuugi thought of changing into his other self 'cause he felt Anzu wanted to talk to him instead, but Anzu told him that he shouldn't and it was good like this. It's one scene I would've loved to see in the anime, but fuck that, we have card games to play. I never wanted those two to pair up, but emotional scenes like that just didn't make the show and that is disappointing.
I suppose. Rebecca always remained annoying in my eyes, but at least she became a smart one later on. Maybe it was the fact that she thought she could claim Yuugi as her own without even caring what he had to say. She didn't really care whether or not Yuugi loved someone else already. Still not the worst type of a character in the show, though.
You wouldn't, but a lot of people shockingly would.
Eh, yeah, it does get a little overboard, but reality is not far from it. Of course Yami's and Anzu's relationship would NEVER happen and I'm glad for that, but Anzu's fangirling is actually pretty accurate to some real life counterparts.
Magically ended up liking him better, haha~ There is so much wrong with this sentence that I choose not to tackle upon. It won't matter in the end anyway.
Well, it's good to stand behind your own opinions and statements and I can definitely respect that. I may not agree with you, but I won't fault you for you views.
Nope. I won't be changing my views on it. I shouldn't be continuing this conversation either, but I'm kind of an idiot when I'm tired. I should go to bed, eugh.
I do wish I would've had the energy to watch through it, though. Then I could decide for myself whether it was good or not. After all, I really liked the action of the show, but I suppose all the characters just began to feel dull to me.
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well thats in the world of YGO where card games is the whole point of the show. and besides even if you dont count dueling, anzu still an idiot for chasing after a voice.
tho i also agree u cant base intelligence off card games but its like in school ppl who get bad grades are considered idiots even tho grades have nothing to do with intelligence. what can u do -.-
im glad she got better~ they shouldve put that scene in the anime too tho, i wouldnt have hated her so much XD
i also agree that anime screws over characters. like bleach they had so many filler arcs and they made so many characters boring -.-Β
well anzu also wanted atem to be her own and she didnt even know him? and rebecca knows that anzu likes atem and not yuugi and she even said they are not love rivals -.- and well anzu had been ignoring yuugi's feelings too -.-
NO WAY?! like i know ppl are yanderes but to be yanderes for someone u dont even know is kinda creepy...
same lol im not a revolutionshipper and atem is way too old to date her lol
but age doesnt matter in true love
but ofcz they arent true love cuz puzzleship is real
wait what? whats wrong with magical?
sameeeee i also respect how u respect anzu which i can never understand but its cool to have ur opinion.
lol yeah this conversation isnt really going anywhere XD
good night~~
well bleach was really good at the second arc but after the filler arc and everything got so boring -.- and ichigo was supposed to be so bad*ss at first but then he became so weak and then there was a recap scene and i was like oh yeah he was strong before -.- and if u r gonna watch it skip all the fillers (its so boringgggggg and im not even kidding even while i was a bleach fan i was so bored)
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True. Strangely though, Ryou does less dueling than Anzu does. It's his evil self that plays all the games. In that sense, Ryou would be more of an idiot than Anzu is, which just doesn't add up.
Yeah, that is a sad fact. It's a mentality I wish would just die off. Just because you aren't excellent at school, doesn't mean you're not good at anything. In school, some said I can't really draw and that I lack imagination. Also, I was horrible at English.
The manga had a lot of touching scenes like that between different characters. It pisses me off they were left out, 'cause they were so good.
Yeah, sounds a lot like me.
It is creepy, I can't deny that, but it still happens.
Age doesn't really matter in love, unless one counterpart is underaged and the other is not. In that sense, it is kind of hypocritical to like puzzleshipping, even for me. Still, Yami acts like a teenager and has the experience of one, so maybe that is why it tends to be overlooked. One thing I don't get with puzzleshipping though, is how people claim it to be incest. Sure, Atem is apparently an ancestor of Yuugi, but through that logic, most people are incestuous since we apparently are the children of Adam and Eve. Not that I believe in it.
Nothing wrong with magical~
I suppose the reason I respect Anzu is because I've gone through the same kind of experiences as her. Well, in a sense... If I began to hate her, I'd have to hate myself, which I already do enough. There have been more than one point in my life, where I've loved two people at once and I was forced to choose one, but my feelings never really died down. One person I fell for had been talking to me purely through internet and I heard his voice long before I saw what he looked like. Difference being, we did talk to each other, so I at least knew him somewhat first... I'm not defending this sort of behaviour in any way, of course, but feelings are uncontrollable and you can't decide who to love, even if that love is based on foolish aspects.
These may be quite different of experiences, but it's just relatable to me. My way of love is not far different from Anzu. Still, whether or not people choose to hate that, I'm fine with it. It's not a new thing for me.
And in a way, this conversation is sort of enjoyable. I get to view this Anzu bashing side more and grow to understand it more. She's a fictional character, sure, but it's kind of interesting to see why and how people seem to be threatened by her so much.
I'd have to watch the filler to get the feel of the whole series, though. If I skip the bad parts, I won't experience it as a whole. I'll probably hate it, but at least I'll get a more honest view of it. Still, it's an anime I almost definitely won't end up watching again. Just not interested enough.
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its not about how much they duel but how strong they r at dueling. and we never saw ryou duel so we cant really say.
and ryou is an idiot for not realizing hes been possessed even after the series ended -.-Β
but anzu is more of an idiot for her yandere crush
yeahhh and for grades u also need luck like if u get a super bad teacher u r done for the year -.-
i dont really blame them for saying that tho. maybe ur art style is just not to their taste, and they just said their opinion.
(unless they r just saying that to be rude, which is just...rude -.-)
but now u improved a lot so u can be proud that their insults wont apply to u anymore~
if they still say that now u can just be like hey at least im better than u.
same here tho ppl called me stupid cuz i sucked at english (more like i couldnt speak it at all) but like how can u base intelligence off if someone speaks english or not. then again when u live in a english speaking country thats what u get i guess? its probly like that in other countries too tho. if u r bad at their language they think u r an idiot?
yeah man i hate it when animes left out important scenes... i get that they dont have enough time to fit everything but they have time for filler so they should have time for the important scenes...
LOL i still dont believe atem is like 2000 years old? he seems like a teenager tho. at least his mental age is a teenager XD
i dont really see anything wrong with incest tho (and i actually ship lots of sibling ships~~). if two ppl truly love each other does it really matter if they r related? and its too sad to see lovers being separated just cuz just cuz of ppls judgmental problems.
like in the bible it said God only created Adam and he took a bone of Adam to create Eve and THATS IT he didnt create any more ppl. so technically we r all related XD
(i actually believe in that lol but even if i dont im still pro incest~)
oh i think i might have had crushes on internet friends too? and i think there were also times i had crushes on many ppl at a time LOL
so its not like i dont understand. its sad that u have to choose something. i think u shouldnt choose any of them tho, not while regretting whoever u choose.
well u cant really help how u feel.Β
actually anzu didnt like 2 ppl at a time she liked only atem. and yuugi had a crush on her too but she was never interested in him -.-
yeahh i was surpirsed to see theres something who likes anzu lol. and shes not threatening, but just annoying. too annoying to be a main character. and shes useless like orihime from bleach. i wouldve hate anzu so much more if peachship was canon tho
it was interesting to hear ur opinion too~~
thats what i felt too and i regretted watching filler DX dude just dont bother watching bleach at all if ur not interested (not really worth the time). and i hate bleach as much as i wouldve hated yugioh if peachship was canon lolΒ
(but im still gonna admit bleach 2nd arc was awesome)
(but all the boring arcs and the stupid ending cancels that out)
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How contradicting.
That is very true.
Perhaps so. Then again, my art did suck back in the days, but hearing that in elementary school can really destroy a child's hope to continue. It didn't do so in my case, luckily.
The lack of imagination thing was told to me by a teacher, one who teaches the native language. We had to write small stories every now and then and apparently, I wasn't good at it either. Now I can laugh at their faces a bit.
That's very true. And generally, if you can't do the same things others can, they'll call you stupid for that, too. English isn't a required language here (which it totally should be, over Swedish anyway), so we get a pass on that, but if you're not interested in ice hockey, then the insult will come raining down. I've been called stupid because I don't watch certain shows or play certain games, or if I am a beginner. Being an idiot is very subjective and some have rather corrupted ways of viewing it.
Indeed. YGO had two filler seasons and plenty of characters that weren't even in the manga; you'd think they could fit something more important there.
I don't really care if people want to participate in insectuous relationships either. If both parties consent, then who are we to bitch about it. The only time I'm against it, is when a man and a woman, related, have children. That should not happen as the child has an extremely high probability to be born with mental and/or physical disabilities that will affect their lives in a negative way. I understand having children is important to some, but endangering them with such carelessness is just sickening. Otherwise, bang away. Who am I to judge anyone.
It's easy to have a crush on someone you only know through internet, though, isn't it? There was another person I was madly in love with, but... Eh, nevermind.
Sometimes you are forced to choose, though. There was nothing else I could have done in my situation back then.
I never believed Anzu to not have feelings for Yuugi, though. That may have been the case in the end, but I never bought it in any form.
Well, at least it was Anzu and not Miho, who was in season 0. But yeah, if you are solely talking about the 4Kids version of Anzu, then yeah, she was very irritating. Her dialogue was atrocious, but so was everyone else's, to be honest...Β
Nah, I won't be watching it. If I don't care even the slightest, then I should not even bother. Now I'm off to watch One-Punch Man; watched the first episode and that shit is on fleek.Β
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good thing u didnt let them get to u~
oh i was so bad with writing too lol. my teachers thought i was an idiot and said its not in depth and i was below grade level and i was too straightforward and all that but who cares XD
haha we can now laugh together~
yeahhh its like we have to keep up with what everyone else does to be cool. and ppl around me r into boring stuff and im not interested. and they watch those shows and korean dramas and im not interested either (im loyal to otaku~)
well they r stupid for thinking u r stupid -.- and it depends on the type of games. if its like strategy then i suck too lol
the filler stuff was so boringgg -.- my favourite part was the pegasus arc~ the other stuff just doesnt seem as interesting. and toon world was cool~
well if they want children they can just adopt them? or they can just decide to not raise any children.Β
but im pretty sure they are lots of children with disabilities when their parents arent incest. and disabilities are caused by a lot of other factors too.
i know right? i used to have so many internet crushes in middle school XDΒ
well if u like the person so much, u shouldnt give up so easily? tho i get that things gets complicated and dramatic and stuff. well thats life -.-
i guess so. u must have ur reasons, and im not gonna ask too much. and nothing we can do about the past.
anzu liked yuugi as a friend and she never seemed interested in him. if she did like him there wasnt any hints (at least i didnt find any -.-)
(except for the manga scene that u talked about)
have fun watching~~
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I can be quite stubborn at times.
Teachers can be quite the douchebags at times. Of course, letting a kid know they need improvements if they wish to continue on a certain subject is alright, but telling them they suck doesn't really work for most. Ah well.
Indeed. BWAHAHAHA!Β Β
Quite so. I don't care what people like, as long as they like it out of their own accord and not because someone told them to. It's okay to like certain things, even if they aren't commonly debated as "cool". But that's a whole other topic.
Yeah, maybe, but that's what people do I guess. I'm not good with strategy games either. I'm much better with platformers.
Eh, I suppose. Some of it was fun and I personally enjoyed season 4, even though a lot of it goes against the whole series and Yuugi was absent through a lot of it. Still fun.
True, but that's not how it works in reality. They'll continue making children of their own. Maybe they don't care what happens or they are just delirious.
Obviously. No matter what, anything can happen to the child while their mother is pregnant, when the child is born or as they grow up. Point is, incestuous breeding has a higher probability to cause disability in the child. Of course, there are other ways to ruin the child, like smoking, drinking or just a bad diet. What I'm questioning is that if you know there is a high chance of risk, then why the fuck would you risk it? It's your child, why would you want to make them pay for your mistakes? In general, I don't have anything against any disability, except maybe anyone who lacks empathy, but if you have a way to prevent it, why wouldn't you?
It's easy to have a crush on someone like that, though!
Ah, thing's are not always that simple. One person I loved for the longest of times was someone I could never pursue in any way. Sure, I told them how I felt and nothing thankfully changed at the time. They were very important to me, but nothing would have come out of me chasing after them endlessly. My feelings are long gone, though, and I'm glad I never did anything about them.
It's not really a secret, though, I could tell you all about it, but it would take way too long and honestly, who gives a shit about my love history. XD Plus, it's pretty fucking boring.
Yeah, I suppose it was like that a bit in the anime. Still, I'm not buying it. I'm probably too far up my own ass with the manga and all, haha~
I did and now I'm sad there's not more of it. One of the best series I've ever come across!
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yeah i had a teacher like that too DX but sometimes telling ppl straight out is better. Like if someone has no talent and u tell them to keep trying, but when they keep trying it still doesnt work and they just get upset about themselves DX its better to quit before u get too into things. I dont mean ur case, but i mean in general its too sad to put in so much effort for something and still ended badly DX
exactlyyyyy like no matter what ppl say i will always love homo ships XDΒ
cool whats platformers?
well the card battles in season 4 were cool but the story was so boring and i was mad about yuugi being absent DX but i was never interested in the story tho. it just kinda got boring with kaiba and the egypt stuff. the only arc i liked was the one about fighting pegasus~
well if u put it that way, there are parents who are abusive and neglects their children. And thats the ppls problem, not because of their romantic orientation. and there are parents who just wants a puppet that listens to everything they say. And theres nothing anyone else can do about that. and ppl with decency knows that the risk is high so they wont risk it. And the ppl who make children regardless are the delirious ppl -.- so yeah its totally the ppls problem.
ohh i kind of understand. i used to have crushes on ppl cuz i think they looked cute lol. but then later i find someone cuter and get over them and had another crush again. why cant u go after them? its good that ur relationship didnt change tho! ive heard of stories that ppl get so awkward after a confession and stuff. its nice if u can still stay friends.
lol its up to u if u wanna talk ill listen~ but if u dont want to then thats ok~
well im just gonna believe that anzu chased after atem and yuugi chased after anzu but that didnt worked out so they both ended up single~Β
aww D: well u can still read the manga XD
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I do agree with that. Still, telling kids they will amount to nothing is kind of a dangerous thing to do, since not every kid is talented right away. I wasn't artistic when I was a kid, but as a teenager, it began to show. Still, if you continue doing something you just can't grasp even as an adult, maybe finding something else wouldn't be a bad idea. If trying makes them happy though, who am I to judge anyone.
Games like Spyro the Dragon, Ratchet and Clank and other similar games that consist of platforms and you jump on them to put it simply. I also enjoy sandbox games such as Minecraft, Terraria and Starbound where you can craft and build anything you please.
I do agree with you, though. I liked the Pegasus arc the most too, probably. The arc with Yami returning to Egypt wasn't as appealing to me as it probably should have been, for some reason.
Of course. There are always ill-mannered people, who continue to fuck up any person in their life, be it friends, parents or even their offsprings. It hardly matters what race, age, gender or sexuality they are, anyone can be a toxic person. Even worse when they're good at hiding it from the outside world.
We lived so far away and this person didn't prefer women in the very least, so what can one do. I don't mind it much, though. I'm only sad we're not really friends anymore. I don't think they like me anymore, but it has nothing to do with the confession, I know that much.
That's alright.
Haha, very true~
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well thats true, i wasnt artistic at first (still not artistic not tho lol) and i hated it but now i end up liking it (ok but thats cuz of anime. if i dont draw anime related stuff, theres nothing else im interested about art)
but u have a point tho. in ur case its a good thing u didnt give up becuz of them. and i saw ur latest draw this again meme thing and u improved a lot again~
the only one i know from ur list is minecraft and i totally suck at it. i tried playing it and i died in like 5 mins? and i had no idea why i died. lol.
yeah yo the egypt thing was so boring. its weird how bakura was the final boss even tho atem beat him so many times before and i hate how atem had to leave yuugi DX
and its scary how some ppl act so innocent but no one knows whats behind the scenes except for the ppl who got involved...
ohh well in that case theres nothing much u can do. a person's sexuality isnt easily changed (tho there are many BL stories where the guy was straight and magicallly became gay and GL stories where a girl was straight and magically became lez but its so unrealistic like theres no way ppl change so easily)
that happens tho. as time passes ppl move on i guess. maybe they just changed or maybe u did but who knows.
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Everyone has their own source of inspiration for creating art. There's nothing wrong with it. :3 As long as you're enjoying what you do, why would others have a saying in the matter.
Well, stubbornity runs in our family.
Minecraft can be a tricky game. I've died plenty in that game as well, often for very stupid reasons, but that's how it goes. It happens.
Oh yeah, that was pretty stupid. It is what the creator wanted it to be, so who am I to blame them, but it just didn't appeal to me. Β Of course, Yami leaving Yuugi was a bitch move. It was obviously going to happen, but still!
Especially serial killers. They're usually very charismatic, which is just fucking weird.
Sexuality can't really be changed though, only discovered. I've been with both a woman and a man in the past and I do prefer women. My sexuality didn't change in the process, I was just discovering myself. Sexuality isn't a light switch. :'D
Very true. It's hard to tell which one it is, though.
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exactly! I'm a freedom believer so as long as we r all happy its all good~
I dont find stubbornness in ur own goals and dreams a bad thing. in fact for us minority ppl we needa stay sturdy and strong!
that's great u didn't give up on art. I believe that art is a hobby and u dont need to be super talented or anything. so as long as u like art, then its enough reasons to draw
lol ikr that's why I'm not so strategic XD
that's true, ygo dont belong to us, but still I'm mad they didn't sail puzzleship (but I appreciate the non sailing of peachship. thank u so much!)
yeah but u know how ppl who thinks all babies r innocent? but even criminals used to babies at some point. so I dont believe all babies r innocent. and I hated saying congratulations to ppl having babies. like I dont even know if they r gonna be good ppl or not. I'm not gonna congratulate anyone -.-
really?! I think sexuality can be changed tho. cuz i thought i was straight for the longest time until i learned about queers and at first i thought they were weird but after getting to know ppl and what queers actually r im like oh nevermind. and i do believe i changed cuz before that time i was dead serious about being straight. i was even like "homos r weird but I'm gonna be nice and support. oh I'm definitely straight tho" so yeah becuz of personal experience i believe sexuality can be changed. i even believe gender can be changed
its kinda sad tho. i want to get to know ppl but as i get to know them i get sad thinking we might just end up like all my previous friendships like we were all good friends at one point and then before we knew we stopped talking or something DX
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I don't know much about having dreams though, haven't had one in years.
Exactly. Of course, I want to get better, but I don't continue to draw to become the best. I just want to create things.
More often than not, games like that tend to require a friend to play with. Someone who knows about it. It can get a solo player down at times, I would know.
Haha, understandable.
It's not the baby that's the problem, but the environment it gets forced into. Of course, it has apparently been proven that psychopathy can be something a person is born with. Quite often though, the way a person is raised, the parents, school, friends, teachers, neighbours and just people in general mold another into a person. If people treat a child badly, there is a good chance they can grow bitter. If they are not given love, how would they be able to learn it. But I'm no psychologist.
I suppose. Honestly, I was the same as you, believing I was straight and finding gay things a bit icky, but YGO kind of helped me to find the way. I wouldn't say my sexuality changed, but that I found myself; who I was and I knew it was okay. Up until then, I didn't know about homosexuality nor that it's perfectly normal. My attitude changed, not my sexuality.
Gender can be changed by physical means, as gender is just that, physical. When it comes to identity though, which is mental, can assumingly change the more you grow into your surroundings. It's frustrating to see when people get those two mixed.
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lol XD i still see dreams when i sleep tho
yeah we draw for fun and life for self XD
ikr, its kinda boring to play alone. and games gets kinda boring after a while. if someone plays with me then theres more competition and fun!~
i also agree that external factors r important too. unfortunatrly society isnt giving us a healthy environment to grow up in. and sometimes too much love is also unhealthy
actually homosexuality isnt considered normal and a lot of countries forbid homo marriage. its really a shame tho. im glad to hear u finally found urself~
idk but i believe gender is an identity not an assignment. and ppl should be addressed by what they identify and not whats on their birth certificate.
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Oh yeah, I see those as well, constantly, I just have no goals for my future, so those dreams are dead for me.
I can agree on that when it comes to Minecraft. Playing with friends is much more enjoyable and you can work together in it, which is always fun.
That I can agree with.
True, but those people are wrong. Just because they consider it, doesn't mean they're right. Those people are very stuck in their beliefs that seem to fabricated from the time when Jesus wasn't even born yet. It's ridiculous to see the reasons to oppose homosexuality. Of course, if a person doesn't simply like gays, but they do nothing against them, then that's fine. Personally, I don't like kids, but I don't go around crucifying them.
While I agree on some parts, it doesn't change the fact that gender is a physical thing. What you identify is a whole other thing. I was born a female, but I identify as neither genders. It doesn't change what's between my legs, but what's between my legs doesn't determine what I identify as. Obviously I agree that people shouldn't judge a person on what is on anyone's birth certificate and if they want to identify as a night lamp, they can by all means do that. As long as it does not negatively affect the lives of others.
Of course, if you are willing to believe what tumblr says, what say do I have in the matter. You are free to believe however you wish, it won't change how I view things.
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well that's ok, just live for urself and have fun. who cares about goals and dreams as long as u r happy
yeah friendship and teamwork is so awesome <3
same I hate kids lol. but yeah I just avoid them XD a lot of ppl just think homosexuality is weird like the way we used to think before we knew about queers and stuff. but my point is homosexuality was never considered normal according to the society norms unfortunately. and I understand how some religious gods are against homosexuality so the ppl in that religion wont support homo marriage. and I respect their loyalty to their religion. but I just hate it when they go bashing on queers and tryings to brainwash everyone to be straight. as long as we have a mutual respect and not bother each other I couldn't care less about them lol
actually u can change the "physical gender". there are gender change surgeries tho they r super expensive.
its just that a lot of ppl believe gender is something u r born with and its not. its possible to change. its like ppl getting plastic surgeries cuz they couldn't stand their looks.
lol I just cant agree gender is a physical thing XD maybe u r just saying that cuz u havent met transgenders or other genders. but yeah we r free to believe in whatever we want. its a free country yo~
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I'll try.
I don't mind religion as long as it's not hurting anyone. When it gets to the point that they hunt down, abuse or even kill people for not falling in their belief system, I just won't tolerate any of it. They can go to their religion's hell for all I care.
Yes, I know, I said that before. It is expensive as shit, though.
I don't believe it is, I know it is. Just like plastic surgery, it's a physical thing. You are free to change your parts into whatever fits you the best, it's your body after all, but if you were born with a vagina or a penis, or in some cases, both or neither, your gender is either male or female. If you're not happy with your gender, change it.
That's fine, you'll learn eventually, or not. It's none of my concern. Also, I have met people like that and I have no issues with them. They are what they are and it's none of my business whatsoever. It still doesn't change what they have between their legs, only what's between their ears.
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yeah I really hate it when ppl force their religion on other ppl. if they do it nicely like talk about how great their religion is and invite ppl without pressuring anyone that's ok. but some ppl r seriously maniacs and its really unfortunate.
well that's the point of queers. most of us r born either male or female and wants to change. its just that a lot of ppl dont have the money or courage. that doesn't means u should assume their gender. and also I'm kinda against underage kids doing gender change surgery (cuz who knows if they know what they r doing) but ofcz its not my business or anything..
actually some ppl r born intersex or neither male or female but a lot of countries forbid other genders so they would be forced under male or female categories (usually female). its really sad. and ive heard of this story where there was an intersex kid and they were labelled as female and doctors would like suggest to the parents to give the baby a surgery to become a "real" girl it was just horrible. if u believe everyone should be labelled according to their "physical gender" then ppl who aren't born binary should also get their own labels.
haha I will never need to "learn" anythingΒ XD u shouldn't have any issues with them and I dont see why anyone else would have any issues. tbh ppls gender are really none of my business and I couldn't care less. I just hate it when ppl would go assuming someones gender and evenΒ when that someone strongly denies it.
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Aye. I know there are people who follow a religion and aren't asshole about it, but those people unfortunately have such silent voices most of the time.
Ahaha, that is not what a queer is, but alright.
Obviously, you shouldn't go assuming everyone's gender and what-not, I know that. Sometimes, it's really not that obvious though, and knowing what gender anyone is might be really important to some. It shouldn't matter what gender anyone is, of course not, but I can admit that I do have presumptions against both sexes. I don't try and excuse it in any way and I make sure not to make it a problem to others.
Those born intersex are usually made female, since it's easier to do. I've never claimed it's right in any way and for these people, there should be a system that would allow them to change their sex later or for a much cheaper price, if not for free.
I talked to my friend about this gender issue and she said that these days, people seem to call the physical part sex and the mental part gender. If that's the case, I'll try and adapt accordingly. Just makes me wonder why we have words for anything, if their meanings get changed anyway. Changing the dictionary doesn't change the mindset. *sigh* But what do I know, I'm just a dumb cunt after all.
*sigh* I never said I had any issues with them. I don't care what gender or sex a person is in the end. Sure, like said, the sex of a person can affect the way I can trust them, but I hate people equally.
Assuming things about a person is not right, but everyone does it. It doesn't make it justified, but it is impossible to completely get rid of it. It doesn't matter if you're a woman, a man, a kid, thin, fat, dressed well, can't afford clothes, use a car, what kind of a car, how you walk, how you talk, whether you're social, antisocial, a kind person, a mean person, a psychopath, someone with a strong sense of morale (either good or bad) and not mentioning all the countless types of sexualities there are. People are always going to assume things about you and it's never going away. Should it decide how you act towards people? Of course not, but you can't change others.
Honestly, it's pointless for me to write anything if you ignore what I say and just say them back to me anyway. While this is an interesting conversation, it's hard to get much out of this if my points are being ignored completely. It was fun, but we can just admit that I was wrong and should never defend my points ever again.
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yeah its too bad really.
well according to the definitions queer is like another way to say lgbt+ and if u aren't straight they think u r queer. and some lgbt+ ppl find the word queer offensive and refers to themselves as lgbt+ while there are other queers who arent homo or bi or trans and prefers queer better cuz they feel more included. but I did hear from somewhere that queer was a name for ppl who weren't straight cuz it was the norms that everyone was straight back then
so yeah if I misunderstood anything id like u to correct me.
I know, most ppl r binary so its not that u r in the wrong for assuming ppls gender. some binary ppl actually gets offended if u dont assume their gender (ive heard when cisgender binary ppl gets asked about their pronouns they takes it as an offense or something O_O) but when it comes to non binary its the opposite. i guess we just have to make our best judgement if theyd want us to ask or assume their pronouns. I just really hate the question "r u a boy or girl" and its so rude. ik uve never asked about my gender which I really appreciate it.
well to me it just seems really unfair. like if someone is born female no one would suggest to them to get a gender change or anything (in fact they r usually like be proud of urself! yay girl power!). but if someone is intersex they r like oh that's no good u should get a surgery to be a girl. Ik that in some countries being non binary is "illegal" so they r usually made female to be legal, and I do agree that should be free. its already offensive to force someone to change and charging them on top is just too sad
its just that u said before that gender is decided by "whats b/w ppls legs" and I did find it offensive to ppl who didn't like their physical gender and tries to change. actually ur friend is right about the terms for physical and mental gender. I just hate these terms tho because u know how a lot of binary ppl thinks non binaries aren't real? it rlly seems to me like they gave us a separation for physical mental gender cuz we r just delusional and didn't understand what gender meant. (like ive heard ppl calling transwomenΒ a manΒ who thinks hes a woman. like they just have to divide the physical and mental gender. if uk what I mean.) like ik if that's the way most ppl see things and u agree with that. I do agree changing the dictionary doesn't mean much. oh well.
yeah, I know u didn't say that. and I never said u did, but I just agreed on like like "ofczΒ thatΒ shouldn't be a problem for u". I understand, I hate ppl equally too. its really the individual that matters and u really have to get to know them to know. its risky but that's social life DX
its true, I agree ppl assumes things and sometimes its a plus cuz there are better things unsaid so its easier if ppl would assume. i justΒ didn't like being assumed is gender identity, and for ppl whos non binary its rude to get assumed to be male or female.
no I get what ur points r. i did actually feel ignored by u too, which ik is not intentional. i didn't intend to ignore ur points either, but maybe responding them by my ideas seemed like i ignored them. I'm sorry if I sounded rude in my comments but i wasn't trying to offend u or anything. maybe I sounded unhappy cuz some of the things u said did sound offensive to me, tho I think u didnt intend to either. I was also having a hard time to talk to u and probly cuz I'm not binary so i cant understand ur view. well if u dont feel up for it anymore, we can end this conversation. tho if u want to continue I'll welcome you to.
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That sounds better though. I probably understood it wrong, but that's me.
Oh yeah, people get offended no matter what you do, it's something that can't be avoided, unfortunately. For me, I can't stand the whole pronoun battle. People make up their own zirs, buns, hirs and whatever the hell. It wouldn't bother me so much if some people weren't assuming people to read EVERYTHING about them and everyone would know what pronouns they use. Just use either she, he or they, why does it have to be so fucking difficult.
I don't care what Β your gender is. You're a good person and that's all that matters to me.
It's not the same changing the sex of someone who already has one and someone who has none. I get your point, but it's kind of a silly one. Nevertheless, sex is pretty important when it comes to medical matters as both sexes have many medical issues that differ from the others. That's the only thing people NEED to know what is going on with your body so they can help you. In any other matter, why should people care what sex you are. Well, other than to reproduce of course.
You can be offended all you like. Sex is defined by what is between one's legs and if they're not happy with it and they want to change it, they are free to do that. If a woman becomes a man or wise versa, then people will have to adapt accordingly. It is quite narrow minded I suppose, but I won't change my views just because someone sees it as offensive. I won't deny any of the "non binary" stuff, a person's a person, regardless of what is going on with their bodies or inside their heads.
I agree with you.
How are people supposed to know any better if they don't assume or ask what your gender is? That is what I don't get and why people get upset about it. Sure, I hate it when people call me a woman, but it's not their fault. They can't know what's going on in my head. There is a choice to explain things calmly and usually then, people care to listen and adapt way better, rather than shouting at them how offended one is.
I'm sorry for ignoring your points. I tend to respond to things in confusing ways and I write what comes to mind at the moment, of course. You are free to repeat things in order I don't answer to them, then I'll know I missed a point.
And who said I was binary? Aren't you assuming now? 
I wasn't going to answer anymore, but might as well. It's a topic I still need a lot of experience on and I'd rather talk about this with someone as calm as you, rather than those cuntlets who threaten, call names and completely flip out if someone doesn't agree with their views. There are 7,5 billion people on earth, of course people are going to think differently, jesus.
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lol i misunderstand things too, and sometimes idk if its real or misunderstanding or me overreacting O.o
well some ppl do get offended easily. if u say one "rude" word and theyd be so mad =_=
i dont see the point of the pronoun battle either, tho my opinion is the opposite of urs. im totally all for other pronouns but its not grammatically correct and i dont even think its legal and most ppl dont give about other pronouns, and i dont see the point of a "battle" becuz i dont see any chance of winning
well... u should always ask someones pronouns before assuming. even if u assume, u should use "they" cuz it sounds the most neutral.
actually even "they" isnt grammatically correct cuz its plural. non binary ppl just uses that cuz we dont have other pronouns. as much as i hate they (it just sounds plural to me and id much prefer a singular pronoun) i tell ppl thats what i go with cuz i hate he and she more.
and grouping all other genders under one pronoun doesnt seem cool tbh
but anyways i do agree the pronoun battle is pointless, and i totally admit u win on this one
u r a good person too~
well if someone is born genderless theres no good reason to change them tbh. in fact id actually be more convinced if gendered ppl r forced to change into genderless since if theres medical issues on ppl with genders isnt it less likely if everyone is genderless. oh wait genderless is illegal. but either way i dont like it if anyone is forced to change gender just to be βnormalβ. u should never do gender change unless its ur own change. and everyone should have that right.
i also agree with u that the only reason ppl needs to know about anyones βactualβ gender is for medical reasons.
well imma hope for the day where A.I becomes real.
nah, not gonna bother. i dont usually get offended lol. and ik u rnt trying to offend me which is even more the reason i dont feel offended.
i just dont agree with ur way of thinking physical gender is defined like that, but we all have different opinions. and i totally agree with u that i wont change my views for someone else.
but if u insist then thats more the reason to support other pronouns since theres that many physical genders and they were forced under 2 categories
the only definition of gender for me is what they identify and nothing else.
u do sound narrow minded to me but i probly sound narrow minded to u too, and thats just how much we insist on our own values and beliefs
lol i find it kinda obvious. like their attitude and stuff. u shouldnt ask anyone what their gender is unless uve known them enough. the only thing u need to ask is their pronouns
its cuz ppl think only men and women exist and u dont look like a man so u automatically go in the woman category. unfortunately thats how a lot of binary ppl think. its not their fault but i dont see the point of correcting them. its too troublesome
we both "ignored" each others points and got unhappy about it. im glad u brought it up and it felt better revealing it. u werent being confusing, and tbh theres no need to answer every single thing i say. i knew what u were trying to say, but i felt like u werent responding to me and just saying a new thing. and apparently u felt that about ne too. and i really felt a lot better saying this. im actually too lonely now lol
i didnt assume anything actually. u once told me u were mostly lesbian which strongly implied u identify as a woman. cuz theres actually a term for having attraction to women regardless of ur own gender (which i forgot what it is) and u didnt use that. if i remembered correctly u called urself "gay" before which u also said u think lesbians can also be called gay and gay just means homo in general
and on ur profile, it even says u r female. if u rnt happy with it then why reveal it. there is an option to hide gender or put it as others but u didnt do that. which means u take pride in being female.
in ur ask me anything, u drew urself as a girl. ur collars were really low and theres ur chest size. if thats how u see urself others will see u that way too. i actually drew u by using ur ask me anything as samples. i drew u as a girl cuz u drew urself as a girl
and u had a picture of urself too and if u know ppl would assume u r a woman then why post it?
so until now i thought of u as a cisgender homosexual biromantic woman. if im wrong then correct me and ill see ur gender the way u want me to. but i never aasumed anyones gender since ive made this DA account and the only "assumptions" r from the strong implications fron the other party.
uve strongly implied u r a woman so thats why i see u as a woman. and i call u by "she" cuz thats the female pronoun. if u dont like it then tell me what ur preferred pronouns r. and u dont need to say anything about ur gender unless u want to and i will just assumed idk anything and treat u like unknown gender
yeah i felt like ive learned a lot by getting offended cuz everytime i had to deal with them and i feel like im getting better
i agree with u XD feel free to offend me too XD u probly wont succeed tho lol
same here actually. im actually kinda lonely now (well ive always been a loner) but its just that theres someone i got really close to recently and now we r not. and somehow that feels lonely. and i realized i dont have anyone else that close. and i dont mean to sound pitiful but u really did make me feel less lonely. i wouldnt have continued this kinda long talk with most ppl and im glad to hear u r willing to talk to me. i dont rlly get along with ppl who have differebt views but thank u for ur explanations and respecting me
ppl r all different, and i dont expect anyone to be like me. its just that when their views r too different o get tired of trying to be nice while they were being rude to me. and i get tired of explaning my opinion when they rnt willing to listen. i usually get along with ppl with similar opinions. but i did have fun talking with u. i felt a lot calmer for some reason. and u did make me feel less lonely.
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Yeah, I can easily understand that too, since I'm very much alike.
Aye. A coworker of mine told me her friend complimented a woman's smile at a bar and the woman got fucking pissed. It was a weird, weird story.
It's a dumb battle in a dumb world, what can one do.
Eh, I don't care to ask. The assumption that every person should ask another "Hey, what pronoun can I use for you" is honestly quite agonizing. I probably find it so ridiculous, because we use the same pronoun for everyone, "hΓ€n". It's completely genderless, which is something the english language should get as well. It "groups" them all in one word and it's easy and simple.
They is a plural, but it has been used a lot as a singular term for people, it's technically not grammatically incorrect. In a way.
Yeah, changing the sex of someone who doesn't really have one isn't something I really condone either. I'm trying to find some reasoning in it, I suppose. Never said I'm for it.
At least you can say that you don't agree with me and that's fine.
Sure, sure.
You're not narrow minded in my eyes. Well, that's not how I would describe it anyway.
Ah, the pronouns again. I won't ask.
It's not just the binary people, though. I've seen the non-binary people assuming a lot as well. Especially on the feminazi side, but those are a whole other group. We shouldn't speak of that.
I apologize. I tend to do that and I'm glad to know it bothers you. I'll try and do better.
That's true, yeah, I can't fault you for that. It's easier to say I'm gay or lesbian, after all. I have a vagina and I like vagina, so technically I'm a lesbian, even if I really don't identify as either a man or a woman. I'm sure there is a term for it, but I'd rather not search it. It's much easier this way. And yeah, gay can be used as a term for both lesbians and, well, gays. It's mostly used for two men, I know, which is fair enough.
Oh, wow, you got really aggressive over this, didn't you. Just because things bother me, doesn't mean things have to escalate.
I've probably said it before, but I don't care about pronouns. If people call me a she, he, it, faggot, asshole or whatever they want to, they can do that. It doesn't matter. If someone says to my face "what a woman you are" or anything, I do say that don't call me that. It's just a word I'm not happy with. I picture myself based on my physical looks, not what's in my head. I have big breasts, I am fat, I have long hair, my ass is fucking huge, so yeah, the pictures of me are of a female body. That's how I look. Although, yeah, I do draw those fucking tiger parts, so call me a hypocrite. I do deserve it.
I only want to acknowledge my physical appearance, whether I am proud of it or not. I still have to live with it, so denying it will only make things much harder.
Anyway, I didn't mean anything serious with the comment, although I can't fault you for getting so heated over it. This subject was uncomfortable as fuck and I should have never brought it up, even as a joke.
I can understand that type of loneliness, though. I had a very close friend for years and now we're just... Not. It's a matter that has been killing me from the inside and knowing that they probably wouldn't miss me anymore if I died is devastating to me. So really, you're not alone in this type of a matter. People are difficult to get along with, so it's much easier to talk about heavier matters at the beginning to see if they're worth keeping around. I do hope you find someone better, someone who appreciates you the way you are. You deserve it.
If someone is rude to you, why should you treat them any better. Tell them to go suck cock and leave them in their own world. Although I do realize I've probably been acting like a huge cunt myself, so I'll see if I ever receive that message from you, haha.
Still, for the most part, these are interesting conversations. I may not have the energy to keep this message chain alive for much longer, but it doesn't mean I've grown tired of you or what you have to say, remember that. I'm happy if I managed to make you feel less lonely. After all, how you view things isn't wrong and I do feel the same way about my own views. Both may be twisted at times in the eyes of the other, but hey, that's what humanity is. I can't hate you for it.
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lol some ppl r just being difficult. I never really get along with ppl who get offended too easily -.- just ignore them and find better friends
oh I dont do that either. I only ask pronouns on DA when ppl doesn't say it in their profile. tbh in real life its easier to just pretend u r binary and go along with it. OMG!!! we need han in English! having one pronoun for everyone is just so much more fair
yeah ik but I felt like ppl just use they cuz they couldn't find anything else to use -.-
dont bother finding reasons unless uve got a good reason for that (its just gonna use up ur brain power lol). I know u never said anything like u r for gender change on genderless babies
thanks for thinking I'm not narrow minded
yeah like I said that's how it is in real life. the only time I actually asked for anyones pronouns is in this queer group thing where everyone was queer and even that took a lot of courage -.- but like in everyday life really dont bother asking anyone. and theres a lot of queerphobic ppl and id rather pretend I'm notΒ involved with queers just to have more social connections. its too risky and troublesome to ask for anyones pronouns (cuz its basically like declaring I'm queer or declaring I support queers)
but what I was talking about before was about online, which I just kinda assumed u were also talking about online since we r talking online o.O so like on DA on the top left it shows ppls gender (or not) and just use the pronouns accordingly. if they dont display anything then u should ask. but seriously theres no point of reading everything on theirΒ profile. I usually just skim thru to see if we have any topics but if u aren't interested in knowing them then dont bother
well any non binary gender is the definition of not identifying as man or woman. if u just want to be genderless then its called agender
theres too many terms lol well if u r ok with being defined as lesbian then its all good
tbh I was mostly explaining how I didn't assume ur gender for no reason and also wanting to hear from u what u want me to see u as. so first of all thanks for ur explanation and clearing up my confusion (I was like dead certain u were a woman)
actually I dont think most women likes hearing "what a woman u r" cuz the usual context is something like "even tho u r a woman..." or "its all cuz u r a woman" and its meant to be an insult. unless they say something like "what a beautiful woman u r" and if u r also unhappy hearing that, then it just means u dont have a womans mindset (just cuz u r born that way it doesn't mean u have to be like that. it just means u dont feel the same as other women and theres nothing wrong with that)
u dont need to force urself to like the way u look. a lot of ppl r unhappy with their looks actually. but for me drawing myself as what I want to look like makes me feel a lot happier than drawing what I actually look like. but if u feel like u want to stay tru to urself then that's alright too. but its just that other ppl will also see u that way. and also that's the only reason I saw u that way, and its cuz that's how u see urself.
actually u can change the way u look. like if u feel like u r overweight u can exercise and keep low calories diet. if u dont like ur chest u can wear those baggy shirts to cover it up (or at least to make it seems flatter)(u can also bind them, but ive heard that it can cause breathing problems so idk if I recommend that)
if u dont like ur hair, u can cut it or dye it or curl it or straighten it. its totally doable.
and if u dont like ur hip size just avoid tight pants and go for the casual and comfy ones that makes it look like its cuz the clothes r too spacey not cuz of ur own size XD
so yeah if u dont like how u look its ok to change
I'm actually glad u boughtΒ up this topicΒ XD at least u correct me of my wrong interpretation of u
dayummm ive heard of these friendship breakups a lot and i just cant get used to hearing them. every time i hear it i still get sad DX its too bad that u r also one of those ppl with this kinda story D:
oh same! like if i was on the verge of dying they wouldn't even care. and I'm saying this to the both of us that if that's what they think of us theres nothing we can do. and do u really want to be friends with someone who doesn't care if u r dead or alive?!
actually in my case we did talk about the not so happy matters. and they were being really nice about it. but its just like a life goes on thing. like time passed and we dk what to say besides "hi how r u" and whenever we start a conversation it dies off right away. it just gets more and more awkward. and I'm just avoiding them cuz i cant stand the awkwardness. and i felt like an idiot of trying to be friends with them becuz they really dont seem to be the same -.-
thank u, and i hope u find better ppl too
LOL dw u wont receive any rude msgs from me XD cuz rather than rude u just seemed tired of talking or explaining things. and i just took it as ignoring my points. so it was more like a misunderstanding.
that's alright, if u ever feel too tired u can drop this any time and no hard feelings. i appreciate u keeping it up all this time and ive calmed down a lot too
same as much as i disagree with ur opinion, i still respect u for voicing them and being respectful to me. thanks again
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That's what I usually do, too.
It's so much more simple than learning all these useless fucking pronouns. There's much more important things in life than caring about whether one is a he or a she. Fucking Christ.
Eugh. Sure.
Yeah, persistent would be a better word. I'm just a general asshole as well, so I tend to stand by my opinions rather harshly. People have walked over me and changed my ways of thinking in the past so much that I've just had enough of it.
That's understandable. It's not easy living in such surroundings, so you do what you can to survive the best you can.Β
I was talking about in general. In real life and online. Of course I know both work fairly differently, but I act the same way on either. In general though, I don't open conversations that much with people I don't know, especially not on the internet. Even less the types where I would need the gender and if it does come up, I use none if I don't know the person.
I don't mind the term lesbian, I never have. I only have a problem with the word 'woman'. You can use the pronoun she and call me a female, a bitch, a thing, a cunt, an asshole or whatever, but I just don't want to be called a woman. I don't like it.
It was just a joke I made initially. No need to take it too seriously. I can be such a douchebag at times, I apologize.
A lot of the time it is used as an insult and I've heard those types of stories in the past. I tend to take them as jokes, but when it's sincerity (and usually meant well) I just can't handle it for some reason. I'm a pussy about it, so what can one do.
I just don't want to lie to myself. If I lie to myself too much, I'll believe it and be distraught it's not true once I realize it. It's not a spot I want to be in. Others may like to picture themselves as something completely different, and that's all good.
If I liked to exercise, I wouldn't be fat in the first place. Sure, I do it more now than before, but this is not new information. I'm overweight, I've been told countless of times already. I use baggy shirts, still have boobs. Binding them is a no go, since I do like to breathe. It's just how it is, I don't like them, but they're there so I'll accept them.
Of course one can change their hair. I'm 27, I've done it multiple times. My cat likes my hair longer, so I do it for her and if gets hot, I'll tie it up. It's not like I make a problem out of it.
I never use tight pants anyway. I like to be able to move, so baggy pants are my kingdom. :'D
I do change the way I look more often than I'd care to. If I want to wear a suit, I'll wear a suit. If I want to keep my hair down, I'll do that. Skirt? Sure, why not. I'll wear what I want and I never do it for others. Still, they're going to notice I was probably born with a vagina and that's fine. I just don't want to be called a woman. Call me a bitchface instead, or anything, just not a woman.
Well, I hope I didn't get too offensive in this, I'm just not very happy about this topic myself, haha~ But it's good to talk about it, I suppose. It's okay if you have the "wrong" interpretation of me, I won't eat you over it. Or will I? Hmm.
Things like this happen, what can one do. I'll at least make sure the people I'm friends with now are being treated well by me. In theory, anyway.
Nah, not really and I don't try to be. One friend I had lost a little bit of connection with, though... I started talking to them and asked about this silence and all. Now we've been talking more and it's been very comforting.
You're just eager and perhaps a little bit stubborn. You're hoping to see a change, but when it doesn't happen... You're not exactly surprised, but still disappointed. Been there a lot myself, but there's only so much you can do from your own point of view and if they don't respond back, then it's probably better to move on.
Haha, I hope I do, after all this time of being a complete dick. XD
It can still be viewed as rude. I probably did the same now, but there are just some things I'd rather not talk about.
Thank you as well. :') I don't know, there are things I'm annoyed at in this conversation, but at the same time, I'm intrigued. It's a weird cycle.
Back at you, dear. I know I sound rough and rude, but know that I do like talking with you. You are some of the most interesting people I've met here, so I'm pretty happy you're willing to talk to me.
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same yo, i dont like having to worry about pronouns, so rlly we need han lol
im just like u in that theres ppl who just wants to change my opinion. and it just gets me annoyed. theyd be like so u agree? im like no. they tell me some life story and ask so u agree? im like no and they say some more stories and this cycle repeats until i say yes -.-
its actually a great idea to just not use any pronouns if u dont know. and its so troublesome to ask lol. i like how u act similar in rl and internet (not many ppl do that XD)
i see i see, so ill just still call u 'she' as usual. (i actually hate the word woman too lol. ppl mistake me as a girl but like as much as i hate the girl pronouns i hate it the most when they call me 'woman' o.O so i kinda understand where u r coming from
i kinda get it, like when ppl call me 'good girl' and stuff i just force a smile but i still hate it. but like ik they r trying to compliment me but i just dont like it lol
well it just means u r a truthful person XD it can be a good thing tho, staying true to urself is not something everyone can do
idk, whatever works for u. i was just trying to make suggestions, but im no expert. i was just trying to say u dont need to force urself to like urself, but if u r accepting the way u r, thats all cool too.
btw how do u know ur cat likes long hair lol. i used to have a dog but i never understood what its thinking XD
(id actually also rather be called a bitch than a woman lol)
well dress whatever way u like, life is short, might as well as be free~
yeah me too actually, i dont like these kinda topics much (usually they just ignore me or tell me some life stories until i say i agree with them)
well i do feel bad for having the wrong interpretation, so hopefully ill correct them if i get to know u better XD
treasure ur friends yo!~ im glad to hear things worked out and u got to be friends with them again
lol thats so true, like i want to change but its so difficult. even tho i knew that but its still disappointing. and ur right, if they dont want to respond than so be it. i dont even want to be friends with them again lol. like its so obvious they lost interest in being friends with me, so i dont wanna care. life goes on, and i have better friends~
thats understandable, we all have secrets yo
sameeeee actually, there were times i got annoyed but like i kinda felt better now after talking with u. maybe i just havent had this kinda conversation where i can say my real opinions with respect from the other person so im glad i did now.Β
i also like talking to u too
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I know, right? :'D
Eugh, I hate that kind of mentality. Sure, anyone would like for people to agree with their opinions, but you can't change how others think of things. You and I disagree on a lot of things, but so what? Neither of us have to like it, but we don't have to whine about it, either. :')
Yeah, it just gets kind of ridiculous at times. And really, I can't fake/lie that easily, I'll forget any lie I've told, so might as well be an honest asshole all the way, haha~
That sounds good~ Just generally, I don't like people drawing much attention to it. I'd rather be called an asshole than a woman or a girl, so ya know. XD
Haha, I know what you mean, though~
Yes, perhaps. I may come across a bit rude 'cause of it, but ya know. Lying's not my strong-suit.
My cat likes to nuzzle my hair. Usually when I'm lying down, she'll come up to me and lay down beside me then rest her head over my hair. Otherwise she won't stay. And sometimes when I'm standing up, she hides her face into my hair, purring loudly.
And really, since I'm overweight and a bit picky at times, it limits to what clothing I can wear. But I like t-shirts and the such, so it's not too bad. My sense of "style" never really bothered me. I'm comfortable in these.
Right? Talking about this sort of stuff with people who are rather close-minded can be really rough to handle, no matter what their views lie on.
No need to stress about it, though. Of course you are free to ask me anything, if there is something that bothers you. I don't get angry that easily and even if I do, an angry nap always fixes that~
It's going a lot better now, too~ I've been so happy. ^^
It's one thing to want change and one thing to have the will to change. I know it's not an easy thing to achieve, but you are free to move at your own pace. It's your life, your rules and if the people in your life cannot accept that, then they can go fuck themselves. Enjoy the friends that stand beside you, because they are the real treasures. <3
I'm glad to hear you feel that way~ And like we both know, I can get rather rude at times, but in reality, you've been very mature with these subjects so why should I think ill of you. I'm glad we could go through these topics and I'm also glad that we can still respect one another. It's wonderful to know that people such as yourself still exist on the internet.
Oh, you~ 
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yeah im glad theres ppl like u who i can have a convo with totally diff opinions and still feel respected
ahaha honesty is great tho
i see i see ill keep that in mind
thats ok, i dont get offended easily XD i think i get over honest too sometimes lol
aww ur cat is so cute~~
oh i see, u should keep ur style and do whats the most comfortable for u
yeah honestly, glad i met u yo
u r free to ask me anything too~ tho i think its better if we talk in notes, just realized anyone can read this lol. come to think of it i should hide my other comments too?
omg really? im so happy for u that things r getting better
wow u said such nice things
same here, tbh im not so active anymore, but it was rlly nice to know u and i hope we can have more interesting conversations~
im also rlly glad we can have mutual respect, and it was unexpected cuz i didnt think anyone would keep it up until the end. thank u
im glad u exist too~
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I like Anzu as well and you drew here well, I like the hair especially. 
Ah, damn, this topic always gets me, I ranted quite a bit now, sorry. Nice artwork and thanks for the support from a fellow Puzzleshipper.
Sincerely
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Thank you! I put extra effort into Anzu's hair, 'cause I like it a lot. 8>
I never liked Sakura either, but that had nothing to do with me shipping Naruto and Sasuke or anything. I didn't watch the show that much and quit way before Shippuuden. :'D She seems much better now, but my interest for the show vanished long ago.
Anyhoo, that was not the point, eheh... The female bashing thing has gotten old years ago, especially when that bashing is mostly about the same reasons: "These two guys belong together and this canon crush on this wench is ruining it!" Oh, please. Think outside the box for once.
Then again, when it comes to Anzu, I have written her as a rude bitch at some points, but I always want to redeem her. Mostly, I tend to write her supportive of Yuugi and Yami. She also stands her ground if someone does her or her friends wrong, like she would do.
But like you said, a lot of fanfiction writers seem to have gotten stuck in the past, sigh... But yeah, I think 4Kids is to blame for that trait. They made the friendship speech tedious, but that wasn't just TΓ©a, it was everyone. She may have been a spokesperson of friendship, but everyone was just as stuck on that whole ideal.
Oh yeah, the amusement park scene... I disliked that a lot, too, but teenagers tend to do stupid things to get noticed by people they fancy. People tend to be fools, especially teenagers. Not to mention, the manga had a lot of interesting things about certain characters, like how Yuugi watches porn and such. He's not all that innocent as people portray him as.
That's alright. I don't mind a rant. ^^ Sorry if I didn't quite stay on topic, though... My concentration skills are not very good.
Once again, thank you, dear! 
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Sorry for the late reply. Had some busy weeks. But now I've found time to finally answer all my messages.
Yes, her hair is pretty and one of the simple styles to cosplay, especially when one considers Yuugi's hairstyle. XD
Ah, some of my friends lost interest of Naruto as well, though most of them made it till Shippuuden at least. I myself read everything and yes, I can understand that people disliked Sakura in the beginning. But in my opinion she drastically changed during the Chuunin exam and since then she's been kicking ass more and more, so now she's one of my favourite characters. I certainly don't feel like hitting her now and again for stupidity as I do with Sasuke since he ran away. And I still do like him and SasuNaru but sometimes he's just... ARG. Ah well. Anyway, Naruto was good, I liked it all the way till the end. But I don't think I'll watch or read the sequel "Boruto". For one, I at least watched the movie and I also heard the one or other thing about the manga and I absolutely didn't like what I saw and heard. I'm very dissatisfied with the character development, so for me Naruto is finished where it's finished and everything that comes after the manga does not belong to Naruto. Just like with Yu-Gi-Oh. XD
So true. Besides people who are in love with someone and where their feelings are not returned don't always run berserk and become the meanest beings on Earth just for being rejected.
Oh I don't think there is anything against writing someone as a mean person for a plotline and with some logical explanation and maybe even a try to still keep the characters in character. I did do that myself once or twice with a girl that I usually support, but in her case it was an important plotline and it was later explained why she acted the way she did. XD
Oh yes, dub can ruin the best of storylines in my opinion and YGO is a prime example how a good anime can become really, really bad. The way they speak in the dub, it's so shallow in my opinion. All that big talk while in the original I see a lot more meaning behind what they are saying. Not to mention all that talk about saving the world when most of the time the enemies were never after world domination but simply after Yami no Yuugi or Yuugi for revenge or the puzzle. In my eyes, that's a big difference.
Well, Anzu acted like a teenager, all right. Which she is, in her defense. But that one chapter was the one and only time where I thought: How mean, Anzu stop pushing poor Yuugi to the side. On the other hand, when I think about it now, I guess Yuugi's friends and Yuugi himself must have still thought that Yami no Yuugi is simply another side of Yuugi. They only realised later that Yami no Yuugi was not a personification but a whole different person who was tied to the Sennen Puzzle.
EXACTLY, he definitely is not innocent at all. I always liked that twist and I'm often very amused to see other authors ignore that fact. Oh well or they only know the anime, which indeed doesn't address that little fact about Yuugi. Or his interest in celebrities at their school. I also liked the mange for the many interesting games they had. And the touch of historic things. Not to mention it was a lot darker at the beginning in my opinion, with poor Atemu not quite sane yet. XD
Oh, don't worry about that. Same here. In fact I tend to jump from one topic to the next, it's sometimes very strenuous to follow me.
You're welcome. And you're just like me, I also love when people exchange their thoughts and opinions about my writings to me.
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That's alright. I tend to disappear a lot as well. There's not much here to pull me back most of the time. XD
Haha, I agree with ya on that. :'D
I've gotten that impression about Sakura as well. Especially in shippuuden, she seems to be very ferocious when it comes to fighting, haha.
Ah, Boruto... Well, it may be good I guess, but eh. It just doesn't seem to have the magic of Naruto, which I guess is weird for someone who doesn't watch the show to say. XD But yeah, like with YGO... The following series just aren't so... Erh...
Exactly. I've actually managed to remain friends with someone I had confessed to in the past, so it's not that one-dimensional.
It gives some depth to the story at times! Sometimes people become asshole due to certain types of treatment or moments, but if they're asshole just for the sake of it or because of weak reasons, then it's kind of pointless and bland...
I agree. Death in itself becomes a mere joke and everyone just gets sent into the shadow realm. Like the battle with the other Black Magician user where the loser would have their legs sawn off, but of course you can't show that to kids, bah. Everyone just receives one track mind and it's painful to watch. Also, 4Kids dubbing One Piece. What the frig fraggin' shit.
I definitely agree with you on all of that. And really, teenagers can pull off some very dumb shit, especially these days. Considering that, Anzu didn't act that bad, even though her hormones were working her up to a hundred.Β
They either ignore it or use it in immense amounts. Well, some know how to balance it out, of course. But yeah, the manga had so many interesting types of games they played and the season zero at least showed some of them and some extra. Β Also, insane Atem was awesome. XD Those damn eyes of his in the beginning though, oh Ra.
We are on the same page, then~ XD It's easy to understand each other on this matter, haha.
It's a lot of fun, isn't it?
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Oh, I'm here daily, to be honest, because there is so much beautiful artwork and there will always be the one or other series I ship, currently it's Death Note, as can be noticed by all the favourites I've collected these days.
Even if you haven't watched everything, I understand your point just fine. And maybe yes, it might be a good show, but not for me. I really don't like the direction Boruto is taking, therefore I'm ending it with Naruto and that's it.
Yeah, same here. And I've known people who were together once, then broke up and became friends once more. Not everything has to be a Hollywood drama.
Exactly, all these stupid cuts, to protect the kids. The thing is, it has been like this here in Germany at least, that for a long time everything drawn was automatically supposed to be for children or the people at our TV stations felt that those series had to be forced on children for more profit. But fact is, not everything that is comic, is meant to be for children. It took a long time for this to be realised here, but I think nowadays, there might even be the one or other good quality dubbed anime, though I still fight with the way voices sound like in the dub, which is why I prefer to stay with subs.
So true, not to mention Anzu is supposed to be a human being, she makes mistakes, just like everyone else. ^^ And she definitely didn't want to hurt Yuugi, I'm very sure of that.
The drawing style though... XD in that case I'm rather glad that things changed. I like how the style developed, especially when it reached Duel City. ^^
Indeed. :3
Same here.
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Wish I had the same willpower and interest. :'D Death Note, huh? I used to read that, but after what happened to L, kinda lost interest... 8'> What do you like about the series? ^^
What kind of a direction is that, though? I haven't checked it out enough to know.
Aye. Actually, I'm friends with two of my exes, one of them being a very close friend of mine these days. If both people manage to act like adults, it's very easy. x)
That has been the mentality in a large part of the world. "It's a cartoon, so it's for kids!" I like to pull the hentai card at that point. Show that to the kids, it's okay, it's drawn! Boku no Pico is a good start!
Dubs tend to get rather dorky, so I usually stick to subs as well. Except for Hetalia, what little I've watched it. The dub is way better in my eyes and ears. It's the only exception though.
Agreed. Everyone makes dumb mistakes. Much like Atem when he used the Seal of Orichalcos, even if that was filler. Oops.
Haha, I know what you mean. XD I like it for the most part, but admittedly it is pretty goofy most of the time.
Well, still. :'D I disappear for months and go through every message at once, and disappear again. I'm a huge bastard. XD
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Oh, the looking daily into my account is easy. The part with looking through all the stuff and trying to comment on things I like, THAT's the hard part, because sometimes I lack time or worse, motivation.
Yeeeeah, just forced myself to read through Manga 7. I already knew a lot of what happened, when I finally started to become interested in the series I started by spoiling myself. Funnily enough a photo of some cosplayers acting out L's death scene was what triggered me into watching first L's, then Lights death on youtube and then I thought: "Now you can honestly start at the beginning." That's what I did. And I fell immediately in love with the mind game between L and Light. It's a bit like in Hannibal the series, I love that one for exact that, the mind game and the growing relationship between Will and Hannibal, so fascinating. Anyway, I'm digressing. I love the mind games and I certainly quickly fell in love with L and his eccentrics, especially the sweets, because I have a horrible sweets-tooth myself. I also like Light when he loses his memories, the man he could have become if he was not influenced by the Death Note and yes, I ship LxLight, even though Light with his memories intact I hate with passion because I think he can be such an asshole at times. I still need to read manga 8-12 and watch the anime as well, only got until Misa has been locked up by L. I do plan to watch and read the whole series, though yes, since L is my favourite it's a bit depressing that he was already killed just shortly in the middle of the series and not till the end. Did you ever watch the drama movies? I like that it ends a bit different between Light and L there. I've always begrudged Light his triumph over L.
Mmmh, the series started with a look into the future when Boruto himself is already a teen or a young adult. There are some things being said that can be interpreted as Naruto being dead and Konoha is totally destroyed - again. I don't like that idea, because that would indicate in my eyes that Naruto in the end did not succeed in his goal and that the circle of war and the war hero being killed continued again. Not to mention, while in the manga, yes the relationship between Naruto and Boruto was strained there was a lot open for interpretation, but the begin of the Boruto series indicates that it's even worse between them, Naruto barely at home or only in form of his kagebunshin and Boruto hates that. I also don't like Boruto as a character it's hard to explain, but I simply do not like him.
Exactly, it can be easy, but sometimes it's seems to not work out, whatever the reason, but it's still a sad thing considering people once liked each other. It's cool that one of your ex is still one of you close friends.
There are also series that are all brutality, blood and gore, try to cut that and show that to kids, it would be impossible. XD
Nya, what I dislike in a lot of subs are that personally I often think they speak like they're reading their text from the paper, not speaking freely. In the Japanese voices are so much more passion and emotions in my opinion, it's beautiful to listen to.
Indeed, though I never watched the Orichalos arc yet, I have to admit.
The first chapters certainly were. And then it got better and better. As I've said, I like especially how the drawing style developed in Battle City and the Memory Arc. ^^
Technically, when it comes to messages, I do the same, so I'm really not better.
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Haha, yeah, I know what that is like. :'D It can be very stressful, which I'm sure you know all too well.
Wow, I really like your explanation of the series~ You clearly enjoy it a lot. The series took interesting turns and it is very unique in it's own, but for some reason, I didn't get attached to it that much. Maybe because it was so dialogue heavy, although I'm not saying it's a bad thing. It's just not for me.
I think I saw parts of one live movie long ago, but I can't remember much about them. Was it much different? It's much more fun reading what you have to say about it than to google it.
It does sound like a load of bullshit. :'D It almost sounds like Naruto learned NOTHING from his life. That's kind of shite.
Yes, I do agree with you.
Like Berserk or Elfen Lied. Fun time for kids! : D
I honestly don't disagree with you on that. Of course, Hetalia, like I explained and I do enjoy some dubs like DBZ and YGO to an extend, only because Dan Green is love, but the japanese voices, more often than not, put a lot of emotion into their roles. I'm not saying they're all perfect and there are some I just don't like, but mostly, it's easier to get into the mood with japanese dub. Especially if we're comparing them to some of the finnish dubs, holy fucking cow.
To be honest, you did not miss that much. :'D Well, Atem cried twice in it, Yuugi's soul got taken away (fuck that season for doing so, I like Yuugi better than Atem) and other hilarious hijinks. It is a dumb, dumb season.
The style is very gorgeous in that, I admit. :3 How do you feel about the style in the new movie? I haven't been able to see it yet and it hurts me, because I find the character designs so great. :')
Ah, alrighty then. XD Then neither of us really have to worry about it, haha~
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Damn, I haven't found a lot of time to sit down and reply to this, sorry about that. Still, since the year is coming to an end now, I would like to wish you a Happy New Year. I hope you'll get a good start into 2018 and that we hear and see from each other next year.
Best wishes
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Haha, happy new year...! XD Though it's already March. Still, hope the year 2018 has been treating you well!
And as you can see, I haven't been much here either... :'D
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Yes, so far the year has started out fine for me. I hope that things are going fine at yours as well.
And yes, I've noticed, though while I'm here daily, I don't post a lot of stuff, only checking my favourites and messages.
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Nice~ Β
I think you did a good job on her andΒ like how you have drawn her hair. It seems to me like as if you were taking extra care to make her hair more realistic and give some flow into it. Moreover the strong contrast between the lineart and the coloring is much to my liking because the picture stands out. The strong contrast was the reason why I clicked at the thumbnail. I like how she hides her breasts and that you portrayed her naked but not only in a fansercive way. It's also nice that you added lipstick because it makes her look more feminine and attractive. You even gave her nail polish which awakes the impression on the viewer that you wanted to make her look as mature as possible but still remain the innocent cuteness she has in the anime. I like it. β₯
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Oh my, you have taken a lot of time to comment on my works, haven't you? :'D I appreciate it!
But yes, I did spend a lot of time working on her hair. I just wanted to make it as perfect as possible. I wanted a flowy feel just like in some of the reference pictures I used. Also, I usually don't draw nails on the characters for some reason, but it felt kind of appropriate this time... It makes me happy that someone notices! :'D
Thank you ever so much for your feedback!
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