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Published: 2017-11-29 05:39:19 +0000 UTC; Views: 2941; Favourites: 45; Downloads: 3
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Me gusta pensar en estos 2 más allá de ser la misma persona. Ya que *spoiler* ambos murieron fusionados, podría decirse que perecieron juntos, para permanecer así en la eterna muerte. Creo que me fui para otro lado… Pero quiero pensar que al final lograron estar juntos y encontrar a un otro que los comprenda y acepte en su totalidad.Quería hacer un coloreado y sensación suave, ¿creen que lo logré? No es mi especialidad, siempre me dejo llevar por los colores vivos y las sombras con contraste.
Odio el fondo, pero ya me dio pereza cambiarlo.---------------------------------------------------------------------
I like to think of these 2 beyond being the same person. Since *spoiler* they died merged, you could say they perished together, to remain like that on the eternal death. I think I overthought it… But I like to think they made it to be together in the end, and they found another one who understands and accepts them completely.
I wanted to give it a soft coloring and feeling, do you think I achieved it? It's not my specialty, I always get carried away by bright colors and contrasting shadows.
I hate the background, but I'm too lazy to change it now.PainTool SAI
Zamas & Black © Akira Toriyama
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It's kind of like how Present and Future Trunks are different yet the same person. Goku Black is Zamasu, but for over a decade Goku's body has altered his personality. In a way, he's a fusion of sorts between Zamasu and Goku.
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Of course, they come from different timelines so they lived and felt different things.
What you said made me think... We actually don't know what happened to Zamasu after he stole Goku's body and started attacking humans. I always thought he immediately went for his future self and then started their plans, but now that you mention it, there's this time gap there... It's most likely Black spent some time in Goku's body, while he killed the Gods from all universes (leaving the Earth for the last). But why did it take so much time to do it, if he was so powerful? Damn, I never thought of this!
Anyway, I don't think Black changed because of his new body, but because of his new personality treats -now he has a total authority and may rule over everyone, just as he always dreamed.
Sorry for the long rambling, this really got into me.
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He is still weaker than the gods of destruction, he needs the Kais to be killed to kill them. So he must have spent time trying to make sure he could take them out without anyone catching on to what he was doing. Future Zamasu didn't kill Gowasu directly, he probably played innocent so Goku Black could clandestinely take them out. He mentions having wiped out other worlds, so Goku Black was probably spending over a decade attacking worlds throughout the multiverse before Earth
Goku Black and Zamasu have been the same person most of their life. His/the main timeline and Future Zamasu's split in age 764(15 years before the events on the saga) when Future Trunks went back to kill Frieza and King Cold. Before that, they were the same timeline. Kaioshin have lifespans in the millions of years, so for 99.999% of their life they were the exact same person.
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That's what I think too, but a whole decade is like too much... Although we should not forget the fact that they have the Time Rings, so they may have traveled over the years to take on the other Gods (or Kaios, bah) without being noticed. Still, 10 years? Damn they're patient.
Hmm, you're right there! I didn't analyze it from that angle. But yeah, I think Black and Zamasu are not that different. Black is somehow more conceited and flamboyant, but I think that's because of all that power he finally got after years of frustration. So, it would be mostly a change in attitude, but not in ideals and personality.
That makes the selfcest thing even more debatable... x'D
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The universe is VERY big. Twelve universes are even bigger. There's a LOT of ningen they'd have to take down. Particularly versions of those in the tournament of power like Future Hit. I imagine he knows about Future Jiren and is waiting until he's strong enough to face him.
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That's reasonable. And since they got a cabin for themselves on Earth, they may have had a hideout in every planet/galaxy they visited and took their time to finish their plans (though I really can't imagine them being so patient 
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Zamasu's lifespan was already millions of years as a Kaioshin, as an immortal he can continue indefinitely. Goku Black, however, is purely mortal. Saiyans don't live much longer than humans, though they retain their vitality much longer. Factoring in the eight years Goku was dead, the four he "sped up" in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber and the one he skipped between wishing Zamasu immortal and wishing the Super Dragonballs be destroyed, Goku Black is biologically 54 when we see him. Unless having a Kaioshin soul gives you an extended lifespan, he will eventually grow old and die. That's one kink in his plan he probably didn't have the foresight to consider
Goku Black's timeline is as follows:
* Millions of years ago-All iterations of Zamasu are born from a golden fruit
* 763-4: Because of Trunks and Cell, one timeline becomes many
* 779: Present Zamasu becomes evil. In the unaltered main timeline, he survives to kill Gowasu and skips a year through his Time Ring so he can use the Super Dragonballs
* 780: He switches bodies with Goku, taking attributes of his personality(though how long it takes for them to kick in is unclear). This new entity is Goku Black. He travels to Trunks's timeline, allies with Future Zamasu, and as Future Beerus never wished on the Super Dragonballs they can immediately wish Future Zamasu immortality. They then skip another year to not have to wait around for them to recharge
* 781: Goku Black and Future Zamasu wish for the destruction of the Super Dragonballs. With their own universe emptied of gods to command it, they begin turning on the other 11 universes
* 781-795: Goku Black and Future Zamasu terminate all gods asides from themselves in Future Trunks' timeline, and then without anything stopping them have the freedom to commit genocide on a massive scale, wiping out countless species
* 795: Goku Black and Future Zamasu choose to punish Future Trunks for his supposed sin
* 796: The Future Trunks Arc. Goku Black ceases to be an individual when he fuses with Future Zamasu, and any trace of his or Future Zamasu's existence is gone when Future Zen'o has to terminate the entire timeline to stop him. At least, we can only hope he can overcome the botched immortality
The irony is that if Future Zamasu hadn't showed up, they would've ensured Goku's death since they would have no reason to catch on to Present Zamasu's plan to become Goku Black. The timeline wouldn't have been altered by Beerus because he has no solid ground to execute Zamasu. That's why I believe the main and Goku Black's timeline only became different once Future Zamasu exposed himself. He unwittingly threw a monkey wrench into their plan
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Now that's a nice analysis! Though still makes me think about that time they spent before Trunks travels to past for help. Nonetheless, considering they have lived for millenniums, I don't think a decade is a lot of time for them like it is for us.
Woah, I never thought about the Future Zamasu thing! That's brilliant!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts with me! You really gave me something to think about.
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Imagine their facepalm upon learning what Universe 10's team was. I believe Zamasu's hatred of mortals is derived from the fact that Rumsshi puts more focus on strength more than other traits. And his ego may come from having Rumsshi as a contemporary, giving him a dim view on other gods. Plus Rumsshi's a jerk. Cus is still a cute angel though.
I have a theory for why the universes in the tournament aren't under Zeno's criteria for a good universe, from worst to best
* Universe 9: The worst off universe because Sidra is in the wrong job for his personality, due to his hesitance to destroy. I think that he only got the job because he was the strongest guy. It's like if Gohan got the job. As a result, there is overpopulation
* Universe 7: We already know about Beerus and Shin's defects. They also allowed Majin Buu, Frieza and who knows what else to leave it underpopulated. Though at least they're doing their job, unlike Sidra
* Universe 6: Despite being as flawed as Beerus, Champa isn't AS lazy and allows races like the Saiyans to prosper. And since the Saiyans aren't evil, it makes it better off than 7
* Universe 4: Quitela has none of the defects of his rival, however he is shown to be a terrible person with underhanded methods. If anyone deserved to be killed by Zamasu, it was him. Kuru seems far more practical
* Universe 10: Rumsshi focuses more on the muscle, while Gowasu has issues with direct action
* Universe 3: The Kaioshin and Hakaishin seem to be on better terms with each other than Gowasu and Rumsshi. Ea is influenced by mortals...but that may also result in indulgence
* Universe 2: Heles and Peru are very competent leaders. It's just they focus on beauty and vanity too much
* Universe 11: The fact they are focused on justice means the idea of grey morality is difficult to grasp and deal with. And by their very nature, Belmod has to act morally grey since destruction is a necessary evil
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Wow, slow down! I had to stop reading by the middle; I watched the series until the end of the Future Trunks arc (I'm watching the Latin dub and it stopped right there), so I can't give an opinion on anything that comes later.
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That's OK, I'll try not to spoil anything in future.
Goku Black and Zamasu have an interesting dynamic in that they're the same person yet different people. We see more versions of the character than anyone else. There's the main timeline Zamasu who Beerus kills, Goku Black, Goku in Zamasu's body(the one Black killed), Future Zamasu and Merged Zamasu. That's five versions
Merged Zamasu is especially convoluted since he's a fusion of the same entity. Both his composites were originally just one Zamasu before the timeline started to split. His personality is almost entirely Future Zamasu and looks like a Zamasu with Goku's build because the Black part has "factory reset". And he's not the first time someone has fused with themselves. The Nameless Namekian became King Piccolo and Kami. King Piccolo reincarnated into Piccolo, and through extra steps fused with Kami. Though unlike Zamasu, Piccolo isn't "pure" because he already fused with Nail
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We see a lot of Zamases indeed. 
Oh yeah, I thought that kind of stuff about merged Zamasu too. I always say, people usually don't think that, more than a fusion, it's just Zamasu^2.
Didn't think about the Piccolo fusion before (though I already forgot much stuff about the series, that's why I'm re-watching original Dragon Ball now).
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I for one wished that they did something different with Present Zamasu. I feel that it'd be more interesting if learning about what his future/other self did, he would feel guilty about it and want to atone. It'd be interesting seeing a version of Zamasu oppose his other selves' actions, and how that would affect Future Zamasu/Goku Black
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That would've been interesting too, but I guess his present self feels exactly the same, so he wouldn't be guilty. Although I'm pretty sure that there's a Zamasu version on some other timeline, that wouldn't have accepted Black's offer, so I think an opponent would be possible.
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There's some timelines where those outside Universe 7 are unaccounted for. That being Cell's timeline, and the Unseen. The Zamasu from those timelines is going to be freaked out when Infinite Zamasu briefly manifests
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I totally agree. The two will being the same person in soul were completely different. And I think the two are living peacefully together in the afterlife. I'm actually currently writing a fanfiction about this two where they'll get the happy ending they deserved
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Thanks for that beautiful comment! I'm happy to know I'm not the only one who thinks like this. <3 Aah, I want to read it! I'm still waiting for good fanfictions, 90% of them are just lemon and they deserve more than that.
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www.fanfiction.net/s/12546428/…
Well, here's some pure, adorable fluff. It's only two chapters in, but it will get really cute and more exciting later. Just need to finish my outline for the chapters
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Aaah, thank you so much! That one probably skipped on my search because I only read the finished ones (I can't stand the wait!). But I'll take a look at it right now!
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Thanks. Let me know your thoughts of it, especially of the special event that happened to our favorite false Saiyan :3
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I've read it! My thoughts: first, I got to say I was surprised by Black's recklessness. I mean, he's still Zamasu and I doubt he would do something like that since he's just a human now and he could be easily poisoned. And when it worked, I was like... WTF? Sounded like a joke. I wasn't expecting that kind of fic... Buuuuuuut you got me back when Black started to pet Zamasu.
Also, your narrative is amazing; I love the way you describe the scenes, the good grammar, and even the author comments.
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Aw. Thank you so much! Much appreciated. Yeah my headcannon for him kinda is a bit different from others. It was hinted in the show his Saiyan mindset was starting to influence his way of thinking, with the talk of growing stronger with fights and whatnot. So I just made those thoughts become more apparent. Is also why he's more reckless, flirty and will be a bit more emotional. Zamasu is pretty much a tsudere to him. Now the with the special thing that happened to happened to Black, that's really my personal favorite type of stories to read and write and those two in a situation like that is something I couldn't ignore cause one-how much it will affect the story going forward into the arc and two-how freaking adorable those scenes will be <3 Those kind of stories aren't common but theyre fun and glad I made you interested. Trust me, this story will be finished. Plan is 13 chapters with a bonus side story of it too. And thanks. Take a lot of time writing those chapters, a reason why it takes me a while to write. Also my BF helps me too, so yeah
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Actually, that headcanon is quite usual, and it's feasible. I remember reading other fanfictions about Black's hunger according to his new saiyan state, and talking about his experiences in that timeline as something that shaped his personality differently from Zamas. Black drinking something like that in such a carefree way was just a big surprise.
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Oh yeah. Bringing out more of those saiyan characteristics he has now is really fun to write. And he wasn't totally carefree with the potion. He took Zamasu's warning into mind. But he just went with gut feeling and drank it. Besides, even if he was poisoned, Zamasu could probably heal. But that's not what happened did it? ^-^
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