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Description Kingdom Hearts by DIsney and Square Enix.
Part 1: [link]
Part 2:[link]
Part 3:[link]

Warning: Huge rant/ final thoughts about the game I've been over analysing for months.

And there you have it. After hours of stiff character development and solving the many mysteries in the Disney worlds (Solve the mystery of the mysterious sandstorm! (Spoiler: Heartless did it) Solve the treasure chest mystery! (Spoiler, heartless did it) Solve the mystery of whatever is happening in Wonderland! (Spoiler, heartless did it)), Roxas is tricked into killing Xion who had to complete her memories or something, and rushes of for justice, until a guy who he met before randomly appears and throws him into a weird digital playground where Roxas can walk around aimlessly until he's killed. Now that's a satisfying conclusion.

Of Course those who played Kingdom Hearts 2 already knew this was going to happen from the start, but at least KH 312/2's final fantasy twin brother, Crisis Core, also starring a tragic minor character who's unceremoniously killed of at the end, was so nice to give the game an extra subplot ,so playing the game gave you at least SOME sort of closure before you get the pleasure of seeing the hero croak in mid-climax.


Here not so much, the final battle against
Xion's not satisfying at all, especially since Roxas has no motivation to fight her, besides "kill the boss or the plot won't continue". If anything it only gives the climax that never happens even more weight. Bleh.

For any story to have any kind of ending, there needs to be a side that won. It doesn't have to be the hero, if the game ends with the villains winning, that'd be a dark yet exciting ending as well. But in this game, nobody really wins. Roxas and his friends are all doomed, organisation XIII barely has a cameo during the entire third act of the plot, because Xemnas apparently lost interest in his own evil plans (Arghh, can someone give that guy some Ritalin?) He just manipulated a emotional teenager in killing his friend, you'd think he'd keep a close eye on Roxas to make sure Roxas will keep working for him, instead of just assuming that a angry angsty teenager will just happily come helping the guy who made him kill his friend.

It's one of the things I hate about all the scheming characters in Kingdom Hearts, all of them have big plans made up for Sora and Roxas to do, but nobody ever bothers to tell them or give directions, they just sit back and hope that Sora and Roxas randomly happen to do whatever their evil plan demands. Marluxia seems the only villain who ever bothered to come out and give Sora orders, for the rest, it's usually "what the hell am I doing here?" characters like Squall or Yen Sid who are Sora's mentors, even tough they don't have any part in the main story..or in Yen Sid's case, any story at all.

And speaking of passive schemers, the third side of the story is the Diz household, and even they don't seem to be the winners of the story. Sure, they succeed in waking up Sora, except AGAIN they don't leave instructions for Sora, leaving Ansem enraged, abandoning Namine and Riku because Sora didn't follow his brilliant plans. Well duh.
So Ansem spends the rest of the series walking around aimlessly until he commits suicide at Kh2's climax, Namine walks around aimlessly until she commits suicide at the Kh2's climax, and Riku spends the rest of the series walking around aimlessly..and surprisingly stays alive at the end. Glad everything worked out for them.


Okay, so nobody wins, and no lessons are learned in the end. So what was the point of this story? To answer unanswered questions from the other games? All answers provided here could have been explained in one sentence. Why did Mickey Guide Sora when he woke up? Because Riku asked him too. There, they could have explained that in 3 words, rather then needing an entire new game for that. The only big answer we get is why Roxas left the organisation, which was because of Xion, a character whom admittingly would take more then one sentence to be explained . Still, I think it'd be more interesting if her involvement and rescue were slowly revealed in Kingdom Hearts 3's plot, so that the tragic ending of this story would be a great tie-in for KH3's climax, rather then to be wasted on an empty plot as here.


So yeah. We never learn anything new about the organisation, who're still as incompetent, passive and unfocused as always, Roxas/Xion/Axel's friendship is a bit stiff since they never get any real fun scenes together,
Well, all my complaints are about the same word, passive. Everyone and every-thing's so damn passive.

All villains have evil plans going on that take 3 years to come to fruition, even tough most plans don't have enough material to fill a single day, so most characters like Ansem the Wise Xemnas or Riku seem to be wandering/sitting in a room aimlessly until Sora and Roxas finally happens to do whatever they need to do to trigger their brilliant plan.
Roxas is the hero, except every-time the poor guy even tries to be heroic it ends up in tears, his attempt to save Xion ends up with him killing her, his attempt to avenge her ends up with him being imprisoned, and his attempt to escape the digital twilight town prison ends up in his death. So all he can do is being pushed around by idiots like Xemnas. Not much of a hero. Friendship is nothing but "friends" demanding to each other they're always there at the roof so they can stare a the sun. Meh.


So we have a hero that's not really a hero, villains that aren't really villains, an adventure that's not really an adventure, friends who aren't really friends.
Philosophical speaking, that's all fascinating, but in terms of actual plot, it means we just have Lot's of characters wandering around aimlessly.

Thing is, if you think and over analyse the plot long enough, I can see what they were trying to do. Post modernism. The whole game is a bait and switch, just like how Metal Gear Solid 2 started of as the perfect Metal gear sequel, and then starts removing every element you expect to be in the game until you end up as naked Raiden running around without a mission, superiors or plot.

In the same way, Kingdumb Hearts 358/2 days sets itself up as the ultimate Fanservice game with promise of lots of organization XIII, Roxas and Axel friendship moments and answers to our questions, and then goes trough enormous lengths to prove yet again that the fan interpretation of Organisation XIII is completely wrong, sending Axel offscreen for more then half of the game, and spends most of the game sending Roxas off to boring pointless Disney movies while the real plot, if there was any, seems to be going on behind the scenes.

Or look at Xion, who's set up as a Mary Sue, making all fangirls foam with anger. She has a keyblade even tough they're supposed to be rare, looks like a Kairi recolorer, intrudes Roxas and Axel's (to fangirls) yaoish relationship, hogs all the screen time, and she's nothing but a sad Sora imitation and should die for being so, blah blah.

And then you finish the game, and all those observations come back with a vengeance.
The fact she has a keyblade is not just to make her special and cool, it's actually her sole purpose of existence, considering Xemnas created her to be a keyblade master to begin with. She's a kairi clone because she is made out of Sora/Roxas's memories off Kairi, barely intrudes on Axel and Roxas's screentime considering Axel's gone most of the time anyway, and has little screentime herself since she's missing/ unconsious during large portions of the plot as well. She truly IS a pathetic Sora imitation since she's built out of his parts and does indeed choose to die because of that.

So what would have been character flaws turn out to be her character's tragedy, and as such it seems Xion was set up as a bait to lure overreactive fans into hating her, while the whole climax and break down is set up as a giant middlefinger to that hate.
Wow.
Something tells me the screenwriter spend more time laughing at the audience then trying to tell a good story. So yeah, that's Post modernism in a nutshell.


To understand the game, you have to over-analyse it.
However, analyising it to death will also reveal a bazillion plotholes. Ah well, it's entertaining to pick stories apart, so on that regard, it's fun. I love plotholes anyway.

Can't wait for Kingdom Hearts for the PSP. The orgin story of the organisation will be told! And I already know only half of the organisation appears, so half's still never explained how they came to be. Ah well. Hope there's at least an answer to what Saix's evil plan was, since he got killed before he got to..eh..well, past his "hahaha, I might have a evil plan!" stage.
Or why Xemnas needed Castle obvlion even tough he already has a near empty planet sized castle of his own. Or why the organisation never bothered to explore the higly suspicious mansion in Twilight town despite all their exploration missions.

Yeah, I bet those questions will be answered. Hah.
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Comments: 491

Rogerregorroger In reply to ??? [2014-12-26 23:32:42 +0000 UTC]

okay, thanks for the info.

I don't think Sora recovering was a motivation for Roxas tough, more a side effect.
I doubt Roxas gave a hoot about his phantom twin, especailly since he didn't get respect for him until Kh2's finale.

Right, Saix's whole thing is betraying and killing everyone to raise to power (except he mostly kills members BENEATH his rank, usually ones that were following his orders already, so that results in the opposite of getting more power but whatever) only to lose interest and become Xemnas's mindpuppet.
I suppose that would be neat if it was done diffrently, but the stretched out and dull and slow and confusign way this is done isn't very exciting at all.
At most a "oh, so that's why that happened.... Okay, whatever.".

The Psp game was released after the DS game and I didn't play it until after I finished this parody, so can't help getting that wrong.

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KeeferTEarl In reply to Rogerregorroger [2014-12-26 23:49:45 +0000 UTC]

Among those sent to Castle Oblivion, everyone aside from Axel and the traitors were among the six founding members of the Organization. Meaning, Saix would want them gone before one of them played the seniority card. Course, I don't think he could've sent more than six members total at the time without Xemnas getting suspicious. Dodged a bullet there, Xigbar and Xaldin.

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NamefulDeityofnames [2014-10-15 10:14:35 +0000 UTC]

If the guy with blue hair ruin his own plan by planning his own plan ruining plan, does that mean he ruined his own plan by planning to ruin it?

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Rogerregorroger In reply to NamefulDeityofnames [2014-10-15 11:30:02 +0000 UTC]

I don't know, and neither does blue guy or the writers of kingdom hearts

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ShadowGamer1315 [2014-05-20 20:21:08 +0000 UTC]

XDDDDDDDDD
sora clones = face-palming xemnas

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Nachtara98 [2013-09-24 17:54:14 +0000 UTC]

This part was so awesome. *.*
can you give me PLEAAASE the link to the song :3333

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Rogerregorroger In reply to Nachtara98 [2013-09-24 20:00:26 +0000 UTC]

Which song?
There's tons of songs used here

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Nachtara98 In reply to Rogerregorroger [2013-09-25 15:47:08 +0000 UTC]

However. Then say me wich ton of song you used there x3

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Rogerregorroger In reply to Nachtara98 [2013-09-26 06:15:37 +0000 UTC]

Sigh.
Uh..

Xion's mirror scene was from the Hobbit videogame, flight of the dragon.

Then Xion and Roxas first tragic confrontation music is a segment from Narnia, the lion witch and wardrobe soundtrack from track "the battle".

Also a segment from Soul Calibur's "Endless Warfare"

Then their actual fight, including aftermatch is from Mutant Chronciles track bonecrusher.
And then Roxas storm to the nobodies castle is called "Break The Sword Of Justice", from Tsubasa chronicles.

That should be about the most important songs.Β 

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Nachtara98 In reply to Rogerregorroger [2013-09-26 13:49:20 +0000 UTC]

ohkay, thanks D

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mypantswer8 [2013-06-28 04:59:08 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, getting killed is always a great cure for mental issues in video games.
LOL!!!

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AJInu-Okami [2013-02-03 00:02:35 +0000 UTC]

Oh my god! I'm so glad you point out all the plot holes and flaws from that game and made it funny XD

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zzzzzzzo [2012-12-28 16:51:55 +0000 UTC]

You have this long description that breaks down the game to all its flaws and plotholes, and all I can do is laugh at, "Okay, so nobody wins...." because, you know, most of the characters in that game ARE nobodies
...Yeah I suck....

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Rogerregorroger In reply to zzzzzzzo [2012-12-31 16:20:27 +0000 UTC]

Derp

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Koy-McCloud [2012-12-06 02:43:13 +0000 UTC]

Just a suggestion, I think in KH 3D, you should have Yensid turn out to be secretly evil. Think about it, there has been quite a few scenarios, where he sent the heroes right where the bad guys wanted them, and in KH 3D, he pratically hands Sora and Riku over to Xehanort on a silver platter! As for this video, great job. ^_^

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adrianerkul In reply to Koy-McCloud [2012-12-22 16:12:13 +0000 UTC]

Yensid = Disney

lol he is disney's wizard.

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Koy-McCloud In reply to adrianerkul [2012-12-22 19:24:42 +0000 UTC]

lol, I know, which would make it even funnier. Square makes him evil, their equivalent, of flipping off Disney. XD though they have kind of done that in the past, by making Disney characters either dicks, or dumbasses, for example, the Seven Dwarfs, were total dicks to Ven, and Mickey... constantly forgetting vitally important stuff, and what not... he's either doing it on purpose, and is a dick, or a dumbass.

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adrianerkul In reply to Koy-McCloud [2012-12-23 09:53:40 +0000 UTC]

lol! >:3

it is funny to see that disney was turning into yensid
"organization yen sid" that is the name of the 7 light's
a taryfying name for the 13 vessels *laughes so hard* LOL!!

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Rogerregorroger In reply to Koy-McCloud [2012-12-06 22:47:38 +0000 UTC]

Sorry, script is already written for dream dop distance and he wont'be evil, altough I will reference his dangerous planning yeah.

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Koy-McCloud In reply to Rogerregorroger [2012-12-06 22:52:08 +0000 UTC]

lol, sounds good. XD Seriously, he practically gift wrapped them for the bad guys.

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LukDehuri [2012-12-01 02:33:55 +0000 UTC]

I just finished watching all the parts. I have to say, you're amazing.
I used to watch your "sonic ... in x minutes" videos a long time ago, and now by an incredible coincidence I stumbled upon your videos again. Then I noticed you did "Kingdumb Hearts", which made me happy since I'm fan of KH too. 358/2 days is my favorite of it and I came from your youtube video to watch it better here.
I love the game, I don't think it's that good but it really gets me. I'm glad I'm able to not be over-protective of it, because your Kingdumb Hearts 14 days and 5 minutes series got me laughing so much, I haven't had this fun in a while. You actually put effort in your jokes, since many of them are sarcastic, dealing with the game's faults. Watching the parts and then reading your analyses were great, seriously. I agreed a lot with you reading them, and you made me notice many things as well. Specially regarding Xemnas.
Anyway, this is getting long so I'd better stop for now. This was awesome, thank you for providing us this entertainment and for sharing your thoughts on the game.

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Rogerregorroger In reply to LukDehuri [2012-12-03 23:03:52 +0000 UTC]

Ah wow, that's a cool message to get, thanks!
Glad you like it then!

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adrianerkul [2012-08-02 09:27:10 +0000 UTC]

how can i sen voice on my hotmail please answer someone

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Rogerregorroger In reply to adrianerkul [2012-08-02 11:46:05 +0000 UTC]

I don't think anyone will answer you on a comment in a random movie.

just click on add attachment and hope your internet explorer doesn't glith or whatever.

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adrianerkul In reply to Rogerregorroger [2012-08-03 11:03:21 +0000 UTC]

i did find out my self

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adrianerkul [2012-07-31 11:04:00 +0000 UTC]

(i'm on fire!)

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adrianerkul [2012-07-31 11:03:27 +0000 UTC]

i'm on fire!

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adrianerkul [2012-07-31 11:02:17 +0000 UTC]

if i can be a voice i whant to be sora <(>w<)>

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adrianerkul [2012-07-31 11:00:38 +0000 UTC]

can you please show me how to make this kingdumb hearts
or can i be a voice there in the new kingdumb hearts please please

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Rogerregorroger In reply to adrianerkul [2012-07-31 14:48:19 +0000 UTC]

well, if you want to animate yourself, here's a making off video:

[link]

As for voices, send a sample of your voice to Rogerfromimp@gmail.com first, so I know what you sound like,

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adrianerkul In reply to Rogerregorroger [2012-07-31 19:37:24 +0000 UTC]

thx roger

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Talongrasp [2012-07-13 12:19:12 +0000 UTC]

OMG< SORA'S GONE GAY!

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Rogerregorroger In reply to Talongrasp [2012-07-13 12:50:57 +0000 UTC]

Not untill I start working on Kingdom Hearts dream drops.

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Talongrasp In reply to Rogerregorroger [2012-07-21 11:53:38 +0000 UTC]

well it looks like it...

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Ato-knight0 [2012-07-02 19:48:14 +0000 UTC]

lol

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lailathehedgehog529 [2012-07-01 08:29:14 +0000 UTC]

lololololol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i love when riku zapped roxas!

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Xenaleena [2012-06-18 23:00:17 +0000 UTC]

Haha Narnia music XD

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adrianerkul In reply to Xenaleena [2012-07-31 11:03:01 +0000 UTC]

oh is it? :@

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Xenaleena In reply to adrianerkul [2012-08-01 22:39:21 +0000 UTC]

=w= yes

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Oosie-R [2012-04-21 14:00:35 +0000 UTC]

Haha ik heb ze net alle 4 gezien. Geniaal!

Ik heb het spel nog niet uitgespeeld dus ik heb geen idee hoe het echt eindigt... maarja.. zullen we wel zien. xd

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Rogerregorroger In reply to Oosie-R [2012-04-22 17:36:32 +0000 UTC]

Oh jee, hopelijk heb ik de lol nu niet verpest.
Alhoewel, als je kingdom hearts 2 hebt gespeeld weet je ongeveer wel hoe het afloopt.

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Oosie-R In reply to Rogerregorroger [2012-04-22 18:28:37 +0000 UTC]

Neehoor, en anders je had gewaarschuwd voor spoilers bij het eerste filmpje dus dan is het m'n eigen schuld.

Ik heb KH2 gespeeld dusja... xd

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XxHavoK [2012-02-19 01:30:37 +0000 UTC]

i has a new phrase.

" my plan to ruin my own plan is going perfectly"

--
When life gives you lemons, you throw them on the ground and say, "WHAT KIND OF RETARDED APPLESο»Ώ ARE THESE?!" Β―\(ΒΊΠ΄ΰ² )/Β―

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Rogerregorroger In reply to XxHavoK [2012-02-19 09:15:27 +0000 UTC]

great, a new Saix in the making then

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XxHavoK In reply to Rogerregorroger [2012-02-19 17:01:04 +0000 UTC]

yup. i noticed that i express anger in the same way tooooooooo lol

-retarded face-
YAAAAAY POKEE POKE POKE
-pokes random squishy blob rapidly-

no thats not how i express my anger. thats how i express when ive had t much cappucino!

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axelisthebestadmitit [2012-02-15 16:34:13 +0000 UTC]

yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

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sophloulou [2012-02-08 22:37:49 +0000 UTC]

THIS IS SO FUNNY
LOL LOL LOL

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InfraredMoth [2012-02-01 21:44:46 +0000 UTC]

The commentary is more scathing than ever and in the 14 Days installments your animation has bumped up very noticeably. Another winner.
After seeing this series about four to five years ago, I was inspired to make a little parody series of my own: plot dissection, character study, absurd humour, the works. So far, I have spun off on several projects, and two are ACTUALLY close to completion. Just know that your early stuff was was my comedic baby formula... cough... in short, it owns.

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Rogerregorroger In reply to InfraredMoth [2012-02-03 09:23:22 +0000 UTC]

Cool. Parodies of what movie/comic/game/novel?
heh, anyway, thanks!

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InfraredMoth In reply to Rogerregorroger [2012-02-03 14:08:21 +0000 UTC]

Well, maybe I exaggerated slightly. I found Box of Mystery right before you- together you two hold major effect over my work. You should check him out, his real name is Chris Ushko.
*A dubover of Lion King, where the bizarre in-universe ecosystem is called into question, Simba is George Bush and Scar is Michael Jackson, (while the 3-D movie is still fresh in everyone's mind.)
*An animation of The Secret of Nimh. This one is more about shock value than anything else since the story is pretty solid almost the whole way through and I can't bad-mouth it the way I could with, say, Transformers.
*Small episodic shorts of a parody of Dora the Explorer, which will be set in North Korea. One major gag is that Min (Dora clone)will constantly insult his viewers' intelligence and apathy which will cause the interchangeable audience members to rage. They proceed to argue across the screen.
*The first installment of an entire Harry Potter parody series. Scripts have been written, character designs done. This, in particular will be a doozy to make. What I'm concerned with is how long people's interest will hold- the whole thing will require several years to make each 10 minute segment and the series is over, so...

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