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theMOCmaker [2011-05-06 18:31:01 +0000 UTC]
How does Winston feel about [link] ?
The torso is custom.
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rust2710 In reply to theMOCmaker [2011-05-06 19:27:21 +0000 UTC]
Winston: "Artn'n." 👍: 0 ⏩: 1
theMOCmaker In reply to rust2710 [2011-05-06 19:34:06 +0000 UTC]
Okay. :sweatdrop:
Cannonball: Greetings fellow MOC! How was your day?
[link] : *FACEPALM
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ZogtheAngryChipmunk [2011-05-06 17:56:58 +0000 UTC]
Uh oh...
It just occurred to me that this guy would probably clash with [link] over his build and all I'll say is that I don't want near it.
Here's several (deadly) reasons why: [link]
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rust2710 In reply to ZogtheAngryChipmunk [2011-05-06 18:00:26 +0000 UTC]
He looks like whatsisface, Nuparu, only blue.
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ZogtheAngryChipmunk In reply to rust2710 [2011-05-06 18:05:37 +0000 UTC]
Somewhat. I'm most proud of the wings I designed for him.
The catch is what he can do: [link]
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Plague-Doc-Matteo In reply to ZogtheAngryChipmunk [2011-05-12 05:21:55 +0000 UTC]
Dude, what the fuck do you have to be proud of? This is a blue Nuparu with a couple extra pieces, that's about it. You can hype your MOCs all you want, but winston would rape all your MOCs cause they're all way to basic. People over hyping shitty builds like you're doing really irritates me. I was going to stay nice about this because you're a nice guy and everything, but there's a reason your shit keeps getting rejected from my group. Its not just me. All three of us admins unanimously agree that your MOCs aren't very good. Sit there and say he can do all these cool things, it doesn't mean shit with a crap build like that. Now go build a MOC that's actually worth anyone's attention, you've clearly got the parts to do so, just no talent or creativity.
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ZogtheAngryChipmunk In reply to Plague-Doc-Matteo [2011-05-12 12:29:29 +0000 UTC]
Want to know why my MOCs are worth something? Because I actually write about them. Want proof? [link] Now that's WRITE STORIES, not sitting around and being critical of other builds. I understand that you disagree with my MOC style because of your focus on Titan design. And I'm pretty sure the reason my MOCs get rejected, even the good ones except Teridax, is because you run a group that runs insane rules like 'If the torso is custom but doesn't look good it's okay.' Plus, face this. Renegade is the ONLY build I've actually planned and bought parts exclusively for. All my other builds are out of parts I have or have picked up at places like Brickworld. As for creativity, did I mention I have an entire website, at least 8 stories that are full-out stories instead of 'he can do this', and I've received plenty of comments telling me I'm perfectly skilled at both MOCcing and storyteling?
To put it simply, build all the fancy Titan crap you want. If my stuff isn't featured anyway screw politeness. Please stuff it with the cussing already and walk away from yelling at me.
Oh. And Renegade is my first truly planned build instead of slowly putting together what I have and compensating for missing parts. So yes I'm proud. If you want a Titan build, by the way, I've been setting Atlas as entirely silver and red. Now get out of my face.
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Plague-Doc-Matteo In reply to ZogtheAngryChipmunk [2011-05-12 14:12:08 +0000 UTC]
You want a MOC with a good story fine....[link] There, he's technically got three of them. I also got off my ass and came up with a brilliant way to tell a narrative through photography. You're not the only one who writes about your MOCs. Even still, you're not that good at that. And last I looked not all my MOCs are Titans. You could easily put something like O-jin together, he's not very complex at all, and hell even Matteo's not that involved. You've shown you've got the parts. You just have no creativity in your MOCs or your stories. That's even more lame that you actually bought the parts off of bricklink to make this or any other guy. You could pick any parts of any kind, and of a variety of colors, yet you made a blue sub colored nuparu. You know what I've gotten off of bricklink? 10 actuators, and four wheels So that's technically 34 pieces, 38 if you want to be technical and count the rims and tires separate. And don't flatter your self kid. You DO NOT have your own website, you have a B.L.O.G! See I checked out that URL of yours and I noticed .weebly.com Weebly is glorified blog hosting. I loved the part in the video where it said "no technical skill required." Meaning you are hosting your blog on another website, just like tumblr, or wordpress. Got it, you're certainly nothing special there. And really honestly, I wasn't the only one considering kicking your ass out of the group. I asked The others about it, and WolfbossX said it could be warranted, Maple said we should give a warning. It really isn't just me. Maple and I talked about it in the comment, WolfbossX said we shouldn't talk about it in front of you.
That's just laughable, your whole gallery is laughable. All that "planning" and that's what you get? There are some MOCers that boarder the line of what is acceptable in our group, you don't come anywhere near it. And its not about titans, not everything is titan builds. If you don't know what my group is about and what we look for then I seriously have to doubt your intelligence to. You're totally missing the point here dude. I'll say this in bold so you clearly see it. its not about how many part you have, its about how you put what you've got together.
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ZogtheAngryChipmunk In reply to Plague-Doc-Matteo [2011-05-12 17:55:39 +0000 UTC]
You know what? I try to be polite to people, even people like you. I naturally try to avoid serious debates because there's no reason to get into an argument. But people like you have a way of making me mad. You find perverse joy in tearing down whatever I can bring up, often without reasonable criticism. When you see someone slowly changing and becoming a better MOCcer, you prefer to tear them down, even when they could not possibly be perceived as a threat or whatever your loony-bin problem is. As for Renegade in particular, he was built with parts from Takadox, not bought from Bricklink. But I wouldn't expect you to know characters. Also, I don't care what parts you have. If I did I would ask.
On to your amusement at my WEBSITE. Weebly is NOT a blog, moron. It is an Internet hosting site, so shut it about computers because you obviously can't use yours for anything but insulting people. Also, the design isn't what I'm showing on my site. It's the content that makes the difference. And by the way, thanks for the visit. And I'm fine with leaving the group, just ask. I would rather you were up in my face with your nonsense insults than talking behind my back, please.
As for my being 'laughable'. It would be an insult except that your greatest feat is to make a design and then tell everyone else that they haven't got any skill because you can do that. And why is my gallery laughable exactly? Point to one thing and tell me everything about it is bad. I dare you. Each and every MOC has a story, purpose and/or theme. Laugh at that. All that's impressive about your builds is size. For the most part they're very unattractive. I completely understand what your group is about, by the way. Titan builds mostly means it has unnecessary complexity, which is fine. And I know. Guess what? I can't just go to sleep and wake up meeting your standards (I don't have nightmares that often).
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Plague-Doc-Matteo In reply to ZogtheAngryChipmunk [2011-05-13 06:43:08 +0000 UTC]
That's not true. Think about it. When you first showed up and told me you were a bionicle MOCer, I was glad to have you on, I even told people about you, that you're new here and to welcome you. At first I thought you just had a few lame MOCs, then you kept posting and posting, and all of it sucked. Like Aidan Said about one of your recent MOCs, "bad form, with a Maxilos body," and denied it. I do know characters, what makes you think I don't. I followed bionicle since the beginning. And its not my fault you can't write well enough for me to figure out what you meant by what got bought off bricklink. Learn to write, gees.
Pfff Its glorified blog hosting, like I said. You go on to their site use their resources and create your site/page. That's all you did, again nothing special there. That goes to show how much you pay attention, I give lots of praise to other MOCers, ones actually worth a damn. Hell one of my favorite MOCers is WolfbossX and he doesn't have any Titan builds. so you can cram the titan thing up your smug uneducated ass. We weren't trying to talk about you behind your back. We were deliberating(I hope that's not too big a word for you) about what to do about the situation. That's what we as admins have to do when there's a problem in the group.
Where do I start. Your writing of your character bios is bland, the MOCs themselves are just pathetic. I also checked out some of your fanfiction, it was also poorly written and confusing to follow. I've put better narratives in [link] [link] I write about my own characters, I clearly do when I want to. I'm beginning to think you don't even look at all my MOCs. Not all of them are big you idiot. Actually go through my gallery and read about them. Also here [link] proof that not all my MOCs are big builds. I can do well making small MOCs to ya know.
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ZogtheAngryChipmunk In reply to Plague-Doc-Matteo [2011-05-13 14:40:12 +0000 UTC]
I have had time to think about what you said and I have decided that continuing this debate is not worth time from either of us. Obviously, you won't change your opinion and I won't back down (ever). So that this doesn't end in someone blocking the other or saying something that will embarrass them, I am willing to end this argument with a compromise. I will admit that some of my builds are somewhat generic in the builds and that Weebly hosts blogs as well as websites. In return I wish for you to admit that at least some my work is perfectly fine instead of 'laughable'.
If you accept these terms, we can both walk away feeling that we did not 'lose' this debate and that we helped the other person see our point while helping them be better, either at MOCcing (you telling me) or working at being more understanding of builds and designs (I'm basically hinting something here).
I know you make small MOCs. I thought we covered that I (probably incorrectly) call anything with an overly complex build a Titan since they usually have a large number of parts.
I eagerly await your response. Please try to make a reasonable decision.
Sincerely,
Zog
(By the way, have you noticed that you tend to start these arguments while I end them? And lay off Renegade already, I have plenty of MOCs.)
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Plague-Doc-Matteo In reply to ZogtheAngryChipmunk [2011-05-13 15:47:19 +0000 UTC]
HA you just think you're so goddamn smug don't you? "perfectly fine" is still a bit of a stretch for your MOCs. You can at least achieve some size, I'll give you that. You managed to make your Teridax taller, but not with out resorting to using Maxilos's body. But even I can be faulted for using lego's Designs. I resorted to using Takanuva 2008's legs on my most recent MOC, but only because I was pressed for time and couldn't be bothered to scheme up something totally new. (I'm hinting at something).
I can walk away from this debate knowing I've won because two other very skilled and much respected colleagues agree with me that your MOCs are a waste of useful parts in your incapable hands. But please, don't take just my word for it, Ask the other two yourself. Jake has made no effort to hide the fact he thinks you suck. I specifically remember him posting on one of your MOCs. So I don't think I need any further proof that your MOCs are an utter waste of true MOCers times, as well as anyone who has the misfortune of reading your lackluster fanfics, which are only a concern of mine because you've brought them up as a pitiful excuse for ammunition in this vastly one sided debate.
so basically anything with an overly complex build in your terms translates to anything worth a damn to the rest of us. I see I see. Maybe you could be a good sport,do me a favor, and enlighten me as to what qualifies and doesn't qualify as the aforementioned "titan build." Hmmm? Because I assure you, you ask any other MOCer around here if a small chap like Hyderbawl, or Jakes, Turaga Durok counts as anything remotely titan they'll almost unanimously agree that they are indeed not.
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ZogtheAngryChipmunk In reply to Plague-Doc-Matteo [2011-05-13 16:11:29 +0000 UTC]
The demons of stupidity never stay away do they?
I used that body because, hmm what word looks, sounds and means the same as 'functional'?
As for perfectly fine, do you remember Atlas? The colors are mismatched but the build is plenty original. And what about little Grenix? Look at the torso.
You can walk away from this debate felling that you accomplished something... at least until your meds set in.
As for the vomit thing, he informed me that it was at random. Unless you admit that 'skilled MOCcers' is defined by the number of lies and insults you use?
As for my stories, well, next time try reading them first.
As for terminology, I said it's used wrong. Excess parts, in the way I used it, means that it's a compex build. I muddle through your crap.
Oh, I forgot you aren't bright enough to understand two slightly misused phrases.
Oh, and If they really dislike my MOCs so much, they can comment themselves.
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Plague-Doc-Matteo In reply to ZogtheAngryChipmunk [2011-05-13 16:51:36 +0000 UTC]
You'll have to do better than that kiddo. Functional, and unoriginal, despite the fact you have all the time you need to design something. Atlas, you mean that thing with the spindly little arms and microscopic head? I built a mismatched colored MOC out of concept, what's your excuse? Grenix is mindnummingly simple. You stuck a few socket pieces and a mata head on a vaki hip, slapped on some agori limbs and called it a decent moc.
Oh I'm not on any meds, nor am I diagnosed with anything because there's no need to be. I don't have any mental disorders of any kind. Nice try, but try again.
Its not lies I assure you. Here the completely unaltered note Jake and I sent back and forth briefly I was going to ask first but I'll just show it anyways.
Re: Zog
from ~wolfbossx
to ~3rdeye88
Well i dont think our standards are advertized that well, IE he keeps submitting this junk and asking why we are rejecting it. Maybe we should make a PSA about the standards and rules, i dont think banning him would be good, maybe we should just tell him what we think of his MOCs.
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3rdeye88 said the following:
Oh Oops. Well Lets see how Aidan Weighs in on this. Knowing that Pacifist he'll probably not want to create waves, but we should ask his opinion anyways, this is a major think for the group. Also, do we keep it quiet or respectfully tell everyone "hey this is something we will kick your ass out for?" Zog is a nice guy, comments on all of our stuff. But is consistently submitting crap to our group worthy of being banned? Its times like these I'm glad I've got you, someone who will voice their opinion. Sadly, Aidan kinda falls short here cause he tries to please everyone, instead of doing what he thinks is best.
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wolfbossx said the following:
i don't think we should talk about it infront of him. but i agree.
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There is no escape from Karma.
You can choose to believe I fabricated this but I assure you I just copied and pasted this from the note. When Jake returns home I'll ask that he pitch in his two cents.
I skimmed over some, saw enough to know they're not any better than anything else you do, confusing, no vocabulary, no interesting plot devices, pay attention in English class, maybe you'll improve.
As for terminology you're just a hack kid at this who conveniently slaps a label on anything too complex for you to fathom.
You've already heard enough of what Maple has to say about your MOCs, I've seen his comments on your submission processes enough. But I'll surely have them speak to you.
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ZogtheAngryChipmunk In reply to Plague-Doc-Matteo [2011-05-13 18:18:50 +0000 UTC]
I am aware Atlas is not without flaws but look at Grenix closely. the T body is not a generic set.
Your conversations bore me. Also, who needs to spend more time in English class?
I will be glad to hear from an intelligent entity.
As for my writing, skimming over is not exactly reading. Oh, and do surprises count as plot devices? For example, my story Xeon.
As for how 'confusing' they were, I'm sorry for making you read something that requires intellect. I didn't mean to hurt your delicate little brain.
As for labeling, it's a bad habit.
*hints are here*
In all honesty, I only heard from him a few times and (unlike someone)he was polite.
Oh, by the way.
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Barrelex [2011-05-06 03:41:47 +0000 UTC]
Wow... That thing's crazy good! I reaallly like the head..
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