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I normally don't do worldas for MotF, but with the amount of time I have, I'm surprised I even got this much done. This is a 1960s-punk future, inspired a little by B_Munro'sĀ Sixties Future . Since I'm already quite sleepy, I'll keep the description spartan:
- The PoD is Oswald being a worse shot, and missing Kennedy. Kennedy then commits far more to Vietnam, which extends the war throughout the rest of his presidency. He is remembered as the man who started the next Hundred Years' War.
- The counterculture gets nasty. The civil rights movement becomes a full-on race war in the South when leaders on both sides are assassinated (MLK and George Wallace are assassinated within a week of one another). By the 1980s, tensions are so bad that all-out civil war breaks out. In an attempt to jettison the most chaotic bits of the country, the federal government allows California and "New Afrika" to go their own way.
- The protests of 1968 become violent, and governments are overthrown in both the East and the West. While the Western governments retreat to Britain and Spain, the Soviets just send in the tanks and Moscow gets a few more SSRs. They get even more when the Chinese decide to attack in the 1980s, which ends in the People's Republic of China being transformed into the Worker's Republic of China, losing a few provinces and a hundred million people in the process. Europe's anarchist communes begin their decades-long war against one another.
- Pan-Africanism and Pan-Arabism manage to succeed, and serve as a primary counter to the Western powers in Africa and the Middle East. The Indians get hit with a communist revolution. The Soviets capitalize on this, and support these movements.
- The early 21st century is the era of greater federalization. As the African and Arab federations mature, other blocs start jumping on that bandwagon. The United States annexes Canada, and then its closest East Asian allies, to form closer ties with these states and to stand as a bulwark against communism. The Amerasians encourage the federalization of what remains of NATO. The Union of European Communes stabilizes under a strange pseudo-pagan socialist cult.
- By the mid-21st century, just about everyone is a nasty dictatorship of one stripe or another. Amerasia is dominated by conservative forces which vow never to allow the Union to be jeopardized from within or without, and ruthlessly use the FBI to root out political dissidents while the Department of Culture ensures that everyone in the Union is a good, patriotic Amerasian. The Soviet Union has become a pseudo-fascist Slavic nationalist state, which is busy suppressing the peoples of Europe and Asia by playing musical chairs with national homelands and taking children from their homes to be Russified. That being said, inequality is bad and society has been in a state of disrepair for decades, with many city sectors closed off because they are just too full of crime. Radical political movements and cults love to recruit from the destitute, and are powerful and pervasive enough to constantly cause trouble without getting stamped out by "The Man."
- Tech is amazing. There are already cities on the Moon, with self-sustaining bases on Mars. Space travel is widely available, with middle-class families easily affording annual trips to the Moon. Fusion power was unlocked in the 1980s, and so clean energy has been available for everyone and stopped a lot of atmospheric pollution in its tracks. Nukes have gone out of style, with defensive and offensive satellites replacing ICBMs. Energy shielding, phasers and photon torpedoes are standard for all military units, and just about everything that had wheels or tracks hovers now; drunk driving is a major problem with flying cars. Robots are widespread, from military bases to houses, although women in both East and West are still expected to stay in the kitchen; to be fair, nobody's figured out artificial intelligence, so robots need constant supervision. Most urban areas are starting to build "starscrapers," habitats propped up on antigravity-maintained spires, for the ultra-wealthy. Nobody wants to even see the chaos on the streets.
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EASTFverse [2023-07-24 12:12:28 +0000 UTC]
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irishkiller [2018-12-15 22:00:52 +0000 UTC]
HEEEY Quebec are still wishing to be free!
VIVE LE QUEBEC LIBRE!
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wabash56 [2017-10-07 03:01:18 +0000 UTC]
did you change the text in the image from "Amerasian federation" to "United States of amerasia"?
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PeliCross [2017-09-16 16:46:14 +0000 UTC]
What happened to Honecker and the Socialist Unity Party? Did they survive or get overthrown by anti-Soviet communists?
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Samthemapper [2017-04-04 11:14:53 +0000 UTC]
If the Arab Federation and the PUA had a war, who would win?
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Whiteshore1 [2016-09-17 14:16:44 +0000 UTC]
How's life for Switzerland and Sweden? Are they looking on from their mountains and fjords as the world goes mad around them?
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RvBOMally In reply to Whiteshore1 [2016-09-17 15:49:51 +0000 UTC]
Prepping for war, but otherwise trying to live life as best they can.
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jbgaringan In reply to The-Artist-64 [2021-03-07 09:51:57 +0000 UTC]
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InfernoMole [2016-06-21 13:47:08 +0000 UTC]
1. How nasty is UEC?
2. So, who lost the "national musical chairs" in USSR?
3. What is Transatlantic Federation like?
4. What is Greenland like?
5. Are Botswana and Zimbabwe under white minority governments?
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Whiteshore1 [2016-06-18 03:18:43 +0000 UTC]
Are the remaining European neutrals doing okayish for this world?
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InfernoMole [2016-03-17 18:11:09 +0000 UTC]
I am surprised People's Union of Africa and the Transatlantic Alliance don't have internal ethnic unrest.
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BagelBagelBagel [2016-01-12 03:01:18 +0000 UTC]
What happened to white southerners in the area when New Afrika was created?
How Islamic is New Afrika?
How equal are the Asians in Ameriasia with White Americans?
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RvBOMally In reply to BagelBagelBagel [2016-01-12 07:38:24 +0000 UTC]
Expelled.
Not very; their beliefs are mixed with crazy black nationalist and New Age stuff.
They tend to do well, but mostly Asians stay in Asia.
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TheNeonfire [2015-11-17 01:21:50 +0000 UTC]
How is the normal life for a non-russian person in the USSR, will they get jobs, regular education, and housing, etc.?
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RvBOMally In reply to TheNeonfire [2015-11-17 20:00:08 +0000 UTC]
Yes, but they'll get crappier ones than the Russians.Ā
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TheNeonfire In reply to RvBOMally [2015-11-17 20:22:14 +0000 UTC]
What kind of crappy?
The DPRK treatment of Japanese crappy or the theocracy dictatorship crappy?
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RvBOMally In reply to TheNeonfire [2015-11-17 20:36:34 +0000 UTC]
Jews in the USSR crappy.Ā
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TheNeonfire In reply to RvBOMally [2015-11-17 21:32:30 +0000 UTC]
Ouch. Well hope that some of them escaped in a neutral country and that because I'm of russian jew orign in my real dad side sure I stopped following that religion years ago, but thanks
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RvBOMally In reply to TheNeonfire [2015-11-17 23:20:17 +0000 UTC]
The Jews would have fled a long time ago.Ā
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TheNeonfire In reply to RvBOMally [2015-11-18 02:43:23 +0000 UTC]
Have to agree with you there. I'm going to add this map on my favorites, okay.
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KnightofLiberty [2015-10-28 00:44:27 +0000 UTC]
How was Canada exactly annexed by the United States and President who confirmed it?
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RvBOMally In reply to KnightofLiberty [2015-10-28 01:52:33 +0000 UTC]
I don't remember and I don't remember.Ā
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KnightofLiberty In reply to RvBOMally [2015-10-28 21:32:53 +0000 UTC]
I was looking a realistic annexation of Canada for my timeline I'm writing, or an event triggered by alternate occurances in the preceding decades.
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RvBOMally In reply to KnightofLiberty [2015-10-28 21:47:53 +0000 UTC]
Try a far more successful American Revolution, but even that would be stretching plausibility.Ā
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Eheucaius17 [2015-08-10 03:45:17 +0000 UTC]
I'm sorry but how would the world be worse than it is today if Kennedy hadn't been assassinated?Ā
What really would have happened is that he would have won again in 1964. Bobby Kennedy would have become president after him from 1968-1976, followed by Ted from 1976-1984. With 24 years of liberal leadership, conservatism in America would be dead. The civil rights movement would have been infinitely more successful and there would be no income inequality for blacks whatsoever, not to mention better living conditions and less of them in the ghettos than OTL. The civil rights amendment would have passed and Women, Gays and other minorities would have gotten equal rights long ago. Space exploration would be WAY ahead of it's time and America would have humiliated the USSR even further by being the first nation to reach mars and set up a permenent colony on the moon. The Kennedys would have ensured Castro is assassinated, thus the USSR would lose it's biggest ally in the western hemisphere and Cuba would become a democratic, capitalist paradise. Vietnam would not have been a major objective for the US and it's allies and therefore Nam would have been (at worst) a minor conflict, not requiring a draft or too many troops. After Gorbie comes to power ted & co would immediately begin negotiations with this more liberal and open sounding leader, officially ending the cold war and resulting in a more democratic and moderate USSR and the liberation of Eastern Europe from soviet control almost a decade before it happened in OTL. Not that bad a world once you think about it.
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RvBOMally In reply to Eheucaius17 [2015-08-10 04:14:18 +0000 UTC]
The point of this is not to explore what would happen if JFK hadn't been assassinated, but rather to create a world where the 60s never ends. The antigravity should have given away that this isn't a realistic timeline at all. As for why it's horribly dystopian, well, that's my bread and butter.
Although, for the record, I don't buy that JFK is a magic bullet for America's problems. JFK was very invested in Vietnam, and may have escalated the conflict further than LBJ or Nixon did, so your theory on 'Nam doesn't work. Nor do I buy your succession of presidency. Twenty years of having a Kennedy in the White House? The most potent weapon against both Hillary Clinton and Jeb Bush today is that this is dynastic politics. The American people have a strong distaste for that, so the Democrats will inevitably nominate a non-Kennedy. Conservatism being "dead" in America isn't plausible; liberalism isn't the cure for all of society's problems ā no ideology is ā and problems will arise and the Democrats will be blamed for it. And there will always be opposition to things like civil rights. There is no way that the Constitution is going to be amended to add civil rights provisions; the South would destroy the amendment process. There's a reason civil rights was introduced via legislation and judicial rulings. And of course, the South had its own major Democratic faction at the time, and so the Democrats could only go so far before their own party breaks in half. Hell, the Democrats lost the South IOTL for aligning with the civil rights movement.Ā
Not to mention that conservatism dying is hardly a good thing, because opposition is always necessary in a healthy political society. Having one party rule, unopposed, for generations as you have it would only entrench cronyism and power politics, and each successive generation of politicians becomes convinced that they can do no wrong because the people will vote for them anyway. No, I don't think the Democrats (or Republicans) at the time would have established a de facto one party state, but the incentive to listen to the electorate would disappear as the years go by. And no, I don't buy the theory that women, blacks and homosexuals are only doing poorly because conservatives are around. Those issues have deep historical and sociological causes, multiple factors working together to create a bad situation. There is no one solution to those problems, and it isn't destroying all opposing political philosophies.Ā
As for assassinating Castro, that won't lead to a democratic, capitalist Cuba. Only an American invasion could ensure that, and if that happened, it would start WWIII. Kennedy is rightly lauded for not doing that. As for setting up a permanent colony on the Moon and Mars - I think that Kennedy would have increased funding to NASA, so space exploration would be further ahead, but he would eventually have issues like Vietnam distracting him. That doesn't mean lunar and Martian colonies. As for Gorbachev, I suppose butterflies would allow for it, but it isn't a function of JFK not being assassinated. And if he tried those reforms when more old WWII vets were in the CPSU, he'd probably get thrown out. If he tries to force them through, he might be thrown out via coup. None of these are nice outcomes for the USSR or the world.Ā
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solardude23 In reply to RvBOMally [2023-01-04 20:01:17 +0000 UTC]
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adameugene1011 [2015-08-06 10:21:32 +0000 UTC]
Is this like Fallout, except that this Alternate History is better? (No Great War, because war, war never changes.)
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RvBOMally In reply to adameugene1011 [2015-08-06 13:31:11 +0000 UTC]
It's a 60s, as opposed to a 50s, future.
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howaboutthathumanity [2015-06-30 19:48:52 +0000 UTC]
What kind of pseudo-pagan cult runs the Communes? And, why is New Afrika a Islamic Republic?
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RvBOMally In reply to howaboutthathumanity [2015-06-30 21:11:10 +0000 UTC]
New Age cults. And because the Nation of Islam was far more successful and runs the New Afrika.
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Void-Wolf [2015-05-20 17:08:35 +0000 UTC]
Wow. I just found this map and I gotta say this is one of your best and strangest maps ever. It's like something out of a dystopian pulp novel. Right on.
And the Swiss firmly remain neutral with probably several dozen layers of energy shielding because most of the world has gone bonkers.
I am curious how New Afrika is doing, but I'm kinda terrified XD
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RvBOMally In reply to Void-Wolf [2015-05-20 22:30:51 +0000 UTC]
Thanks, I was aiming for dystopian (of course).
New Afrika is pretty poor. Expelling all of the whites in the new country has horrible effects on the economy.Ā
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Void-Wolf In reply to RvBOMally [2015-05-20 22:53:03 +0000 UTC]
Classic RvBOMally c:
yeah as I figured. Looking forward to the other crazy maps. I have a few ideas, but trying to find other unique sources of inspiration.
another cool map like always
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kyuzoaoi [2015-05-01 02:49:21 +0000 UTC]
One thing that could be said on the European Communes: this is what you get from the less sane 1968 protesters if they have their way.
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kyuzoaoi [2015-04-30 15:54:01 +0000 UTC]
Why the Philippines is still independent while Japan and South Korea are into Amerasia?
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RvBOMally In reply to kyuzoaoi [2015-04-30 19:09:33 +0000 UTC]
More local animosity toward the idea of American statehood, and less efforts by the Americans to Americanize the Philippines.Ā
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Warsie In reply to RvBOMally [2019-02-11 09:03:17 +0000 UTC]
how though, the Phillipines was a literal colony for longer
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MrImperatorRoma [2015-03-30 15:59:29 +0000 UTC]
#2... Cartman was right. Never trust hippies..
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RvBOMally In reply to MrImperatorRoma [2015-03-31 02:52:11 +0000 UTC]
I'm glad to have his approval.
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Castorem [2015-03-30 14:38:34 +0000 UTC]
So, planning to do some more "realistic" scenarios in the future by any chance? Also you could try some more middle ages or even antics scenarios, I really enjoy those. A lot of your latest scenarios just end up in absolutely totalitarian blobs pinned against each other.Ā
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RvBOMally In reply to Castorem [2015-03-30 15:08:56 +0000 UTC]
This was a last-minute MotF entry. The more recent stuff coming out will be more unrealistic, but less totalitarian-blobby.Ā
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