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Description I'm back! This is my cover of  MetalSlimeHunt 's EEUSG  entry, the Restored States of America . Many thanks to him for helping out. The text below is his.

The world has both AI and transhumanism, but the tech for the former is stronger and mostly responsible for developing the latter in a relatively short timeframe. AI lack persona or humanlike intelligence (though there are "wrappers" to make them seem more human), they're strongly self-evolving computer systems but don't care about things unless told to care. Most governments and organizations have AI organizers since humans can't hope to keep up with them in the digital realm.

Ideology is very integrated with AI technology, with democracies and autocracies both managing themselves through AI instead of human controllers. As with California, there are some states that are ran by AI outright (though the Silicon Valley oligarchs who set that system up ended up departing for Four Corners when the system stopped favoring them). Modern leftist states are facilitated through automation and AI organizers, of both the anarchist and socialist varieties. Capitalist states as we know them now represent the old order and are increasingly dependent on basic income, mixed-market intervention, and AI financial management to remain solvent. Outside of AI you have purist countries like the mentioned Australia (AI allowed for government only, nationalist managed democracy, transhumans & leftists oppressed) and Bangladesh (AI banned, 21st century Islamic offshoot dictatorship, genocide of transhumans, oppression of other religions). As the entry shows not all purist countries are necessarily awful, but the RSA is probably the best of the bunch in that they focus more on material threats from AI rather than demagoguery or dehumanizing augmented people.

Climate change was braked harshly by geoengineering projects once it became clear that the carbon transition was happening hopelessly late, this had backlash in the form of even more extinctions when conditions reversed against the generations that had started adapting to a hotter Earth as well as global cold snaps from aerosol seeding. Permafrost areas were the hardest hit because they lost their ecological backbones from the melt, but the ice caps are both back in action and recovery is truly taking off in 2070, including cloning of extinct species.

ESA won the race to Mars as a dark horse due to being more spared than most by the chaos of the 20s and 30s, though an aged Elon got his from early California before all was said and done. Most space investment is in stations and early orbital infrastructure. Death hasn't been cured per se, but the recently deceased and black tagged are no longer considered dead by modern medical science and can be revived from the first few stages of brain death or nearly any level of organ failure, so long as you have access to cybernetics and automated life support. Not enough time has passed to know for sure how long cybernetics boost lifespan, if they do at all. Most people who have died with them were elderly to before being augmented.

Russia and China benefited from the AI revolution at first by simple dint of the US collapsing, but faced increasing devastation both from the climate crisis and the world not jumping at all to accept them as the inheritors of America's power. Russia faced regime change when it came out how severe climate change was going to be for them. The New Russia is transhumanist to a degree that makes unaugmented Russians feel pushed. China wasn't affected as severely by the climate, but due to bad leadership during the attempted ascension to superpower never managed to claim the economic or cultural mantel of the US, as well as suffering severe internal strife from all sides as Modern Chinese Socialism failed to capture the next generation wholesale. People now compare their situation to that of the late USA's with dark amusement. China is moderately technoprogressive in 2070.

The European Union did alright for itself during the crisis period. Never reclaiming Britain or federalizing, the nations of Europe settled into their collective fortress and adapted to the new world. Europe is solidly of the old order, even now scoffing at both left and right. Individual nations had their dispensations from time to time, but the system as a whole stayed together and survived. This stability meant that they were also never particularly onboard with radical human evolution. AI is allowed and integrated as is only rational for major systems, but augmentation outside the medical and merely mortal is very difficult to obtain. Ironically, it was in the "modern and forward-looking" Europe that the prediction of transhumanism as the province of the rich over the poor first came true.

Britain, for her part, didn't take things as well. Instead of settling into long ennui like Europe, they settled into long recession and faced increasing political radicalism. The existing order survived by a hair's breadth, jettisoning Northern Island and reorganizing into ever more devolved power to stave off Scottish and Welsh nationalism. Britain is informally purist. Transhumanism is seen as dangerous, a tool of dissenters and foreign agents, which only makes both of those groups more willing to employ it against London. Augmented travelers need not apply unless they are willing to have their "integrated weaponry" removed beforehand. AI is employed exclusively by the military and intelligence bodies. This does not help the economy one bit, though at least transnationals have to compete with AI advantage at a distance instead of up close.

India fucked up. The mouths to feed, the inefficiencies of democracy, the ideological disunity, the rising seas...it was all too much. Gandhi's dream died a painful death upon the bodies of millions, and the rising tiger was permanently lost. Neighboring regions took their pounds of flesh without fear once it became clear that New Delhi no longer controlled troops or nukes to retaliate with. Strife and poverty rule the remainder of the subcontinent to this very day, though if nothing new and revolutionary emerged from the ashes there was at least rock bottom was as far as it fell. Traumatic feelings from the crisis endure, leaving AI as a professional venture and transhumans as stigmatized outcasts.

The African Century happened. With India exploded to death and the China/Russia tug of war interrupted by ecological collapse, African nations managed a generally smoother transition and were able to take control of their own resource power. The African Union is akin to OTL EU at its peak, and neocolonialism is remembered only by the elderly. Conflicts include the heightened tensions of transhuman and baseline polities allied to each other and whether to employ state capitalist or market socialist economics.

Japan is not ok. Demographic transition turned into demographic collapse, social isolation intensified to irreversible levels, and with the sea rising up to kill them Japan withdrew from the world. It's not a rogue state, just a very depressing one. You can buy a plane ticket to Tokyo, but it's not like there's anything to do there. Japan's economic and cultural influence now barely reaches all of Japan, much less the world, and anybody with the sense to recognize what's wrong just gets out. Young people don't know what millennial anime memes mean. Japan embraced disruptive technology to make up for the societal collapse, and it turns out all those elderly caregiver robots were a good investment, as well as the sex robots and the cry-yourself-to-sleep robots. The Japanese economic is highly automated and AI directed by necessity, nearing AI state levels despite being viewed with suspicion instead of excitement like in actual AI states.

Israel and Palestine did shockingly well, given the circumstances. The walls came down around the nations and up around the desertification fronts. Palestine is recognized as a state, and the two countries managed to reach a stable land agreement after only two decades of negotiations. The older generations still hate each other but are long since out of steam, while the younger generations nearly have it behind them. The lack of an oft-predicted catastrophic war gave surrounding countries a much easier time of things in their already bad situation.

Iran held on against the clusterfuck happening next door. Barely. Release from American embargo and ecological catastrophe kinda balanced out, in the end. A cautious approach is taken with disruptive tech. That thing with India was close. That didn't have much to do with AI, but still let's calm down. Just keep calming down. Maybe another decade of calming down would just be good for everybody.

ABM tech has eliminated nuclear war as a realistic possibility. With AI reaction times, not even submarine missiles or a SLAM has much chance of reaching a target, and unlike nukes themselves ABM rapidly proliferated. You're basically down to suitcase nukes. Nobody would ever resort to that, surely...

Internationalism is definitely a nice idea. Travel is open enough outside of transhumans and purist states. The International Postal Union survived the climate crisis. The UN even kept its headquarters, after all that business with the US died down. More than that...maybe next century.

Offworld colonies are a waste of money. The world almost ended, you can't spend the budget on that. Take a couple of space stations and call it even.

The Amazon rainforest was almost completely destroyed, but hangs on by a thread of aggressive restoration techniques and trillions in ecological guilt. Global desertification was severe, and not prevented. The Greenland ice sheet collapsed and badly slowed the jetstream, which geoengineering couldn't fix directly. Megastorms abound. Oceanic acidity was stabilized around levels at 2000 by aggressive emissions controls and iron seeding, which works. The snapback from aerosol seeding was damaging to some tropical regions, but below predictions and definitely better than not doing it. De-extinction efforts have made excellent progress, with a few keystone species returned to the wild and is considered proven for long term return of most things with DNA samples. The mammoths didn't work, though. Views on past generations are bittersweet. There is sympathy in the public conciousness for the situation they were in, but denialist world leaders are viewed as moral if not actual criminals, and students of history often veer into the pits of deep resentment that are present though often not spoken outright. Toxic pollution has not really been dealt with, with the laser-sharp focus on the climate overall. Though cancer treatments are better in 2070, cancer rates have only increased.
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Comments: 40

devientartfannumba1 [2023-07-19 11:58:46 +0000 UTC]

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ibrahim206 [2019-08-15 21:37:08 +0000 UTC]

Can you post a new invite to your discord

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devientartfannumba1 [2019-07-19 08:53:23 +0000 UTC]

The world you describe at the end reminds me of this:  i.imgur.com/6AJOJm1.png Guess Transhumans, AI would or are nearing a point of being "exotic" life.

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devientartfannumba1 [2019-07-13 21:59:19 +0000 UTC]

My guess is that the Restored States of America is the least urbanized place in America due to being in the "wild west" the last place settled by Americans, so it is conservative because of this, while the rest of America and even the South has become cityscape.  The Atlantic megalopolises have finally combined the form a new generation of city slickers that would make up the Atlantic Federation.

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devientartfannumba1 [2019-07-10 02:43:53 +0000 UTC]

What do you mean, "Elon got his?" His scam was revealed? 

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menapia [2019-06-11 23:19:31 +0000 UTC]

I like the idea of AI organisers, imagine a country where all the bumf of admin is done quickly, properly and without too many human made screwups*

* once did a summer job in a Health Board Office dealing with the filing system, one major screwup I found involved a lady who had her leg removed in the 60's & some asshead had botched the file years later putting her down as having the full two legs.............Someone call the boys in the Vatican! some old lady who had but one leg went and sprouted another.

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grisador [2019-05-17 23:51:18 +0000 UTC]

Splendid

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yama951 [2019-04-24 20:53:09 +0000 UTC]

Curious on the state of the Philippines and ASEAN in general. The current trajectory OTL is closer economic ties so I'm curious on the whole split between under Chinese influence and Vietnam and their influence on Indochina. At least, as a supporter of transhumanist ideas, the region looks better off than others.

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MetalSlimeHunt In reply to yama951 [2019-04-26 18:32:13 +0000 UTC]

China made what was more-or-less an attempt to take over the world with soft power in the wake of US collapse, which immediately crashed headlong into Russia trying to do the same thing, the EU trying to keep anybody from replacing the US, and rapidly escalating climate disaster across the entire planet. Suffice it to say, these moves towards hostile takeover of their economies while the waves surged ever higher engendered quite a bit of hostility among ASEAN and split the group into pro-China and anti-China, the latter being lead by Vietnam. The nations with more island territory were more likely to go with China - they were giving up a great deal of independence, but at least the Chinese firms wouldn't passively watch their investments drown. And indeed, China did make heavy investments in storm and flood defense across the region, for which they probably deserve some praise.


Australia probably could have gotten a piece of the pie here if their leaders weren't busy being isolationist racist murderers.

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MartyrFan [2019-04-22 17:53:38 +0000 UTC]

Wow, this is one divided world. I think I'd be ok with my state's liking for transhumanism (Four Corner's Confederation); I like the idea of enhancement with cybernetics.

It's odd and nice to see Afghanistan doing well; that's the ray of hope in this dark and divided world.

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MetalSlimeHunt In reply to MartyrFan [2019-04-23 21:20:13 +0000 UTC]

You might not like it that much. Four Corners is at best a corporate dictatorship where the workers get AI minders and at worst a brush war fought with railguns and engineered diseases. The best spots are in the areas of Utah that were stable before the California exiles took over and so far out in the rural regions that you aren't formally part of society.


And yeah, not getting slaughtered every twenty years did wonders for the Afghan renaissance.

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MartyrFan In reply to MetalSlimeHunt [2019-04-26 04:34:17 +0000 UTC]

Oh, crap.

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wabash56 [2019-04-20 04:18:09 +0000 UTC]

What is the Atlantic federation like?

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MetalSlimeHunt In reply to wabash56 [2019-04-26 18:36:32 +0000 UTC]

An e-democracy organized by AI, mixed-market economy verging on social democratic, heavily influenced by modern urbanist ideas. Open to integrating other successors to the US, but essentially only if they completely come over to the federation's way of doing things. Not as dependent on the ideas of the former USA as you might expect.

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devientartfannumba1 In reply to MetalSlimeHunt [2019-05-22 00:12:06 +0000 UTC]

Very nice.  Hey, do you have any flags for there?  Or at the very least perhaps think of what a flag might look like?

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TrueBananakonda [2019-04-19 21:11:48 +0000 UTC]

Oh, I really like the look of this one

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Viewer6991 [2019-04-19 05:41:11 +0000 UTC]

Canada Still Android-Free Zone, reads the magazine article.

Welp, I guess Quebec finally did manage to up and leave. I could definitely imagine the AI issue being another argument for secession; Montreal is becoming a centre for AI research and development even in the present, and I doubt they'd want to give that up if the rest of Canada goes anti-AI. I'd probably move across the Ottawa River myself for that reason in this world. I wouldn't be surprised if the cities of some counter-transhumanist states have pro-AI counterculture movements. If Kansas City could do it, certainly a lot of other places could too.

Speaking of which, exactly how anti-AI are the counter-transhumanist states? They certainly don't seem to mind driverless cars from what the writeup showed, even if they didn't like AI responding to human psychology or AI in advisory roles. Do they consider dumber, less interconnected AIs like driverless cars and domestic robots to not be powerful or disruptive enough to worry about?

Atlantic Federation is a rather... interesting name for this world's rump USA. Not what I'd expect, but definitely original. Are people from there called Atlanteans?  

 I also love what you've done with California, because I like the idea of an AI turning against its creators for a benevolent reason rather than out of a burning desire to destroy humanity.

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MetalSlimeHunt In reply to Viewer6991 [2019-04-19 19:16:46 +0000 UTC]

AI resistance is difficult for a lot of reasons. Most of the counter-transhumanist states make use of AI in a military and/or clandestine capacity (but not the RSA), and save Bangladesh all of them have some exception to their ban. Since transhuman tech almost necessitates AI assistance, the lack of the latter means a lack in the former.


True AI is specifically a software neural network grown through some variation of the original Cornell Protocol, typically on a very powerful piece of hardware. The driverless cars and farmer drones aren't AI by this definition and use conventional computing methods like OTLs, though they definitely skirt the line since many improvements in that field were *discovered* by true AI researchers.


All the successors to the USA ended up going the route of disclaiming the name instead of trying to take it, though the RSA certainly considers themselves the most true successor. The Atlantic Federation took a radically different name because society and public identity had also become radically different during the reformation of government. When the USA collapsed AI were only a few years new and transhuman tech just didn't exist. By the time it came to decide if they were going to get in a fight with the RSA and scare every other successor by taking the name, AI were integral to the function of society and the lines of death were being pushed back against the horizon. And so they went a different path. They're called Atlantics unless you're a nerd, which many people are, in which case yes, Atlanteans.

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Viewer6991 In reply to MetalSlimeHunt [2019-04-20 00:24:59 +0000 UTC]

I can't seem to find what the Cornell Protocol is, but I do at least understand the neural network bit. I do like the take on the anti-AI powers, I suppose being completely free of AI just isn't practical in the modern era. I imagine their counter-transhumanist ideology will die a gradual death out of increasing reform brought by pragmatism, like communism in China.

Speaking of communism, I take it Mexico's government was founded by "Communism could have worked, they just needed better computers" ideas?

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MetalSlimeHunt In reply to Viewer6991 [2019-04-20 02:12:16 +0000 UTC]

The Cornell Protocol is the accidental invention of a methodology for AI creation found by researchers at Cornell University, which is the foundation of all true AI systems.


The counter-transhumanists still have a lot of days ahead of them. If you ask Californians or Cascadians, they'd tell you that only they caught the wave of the future and even the pro-transhuman powers are just the progressive wing of Luddites.


The PRM was founded by Maoist revivalists in the wake of united Mexico's disintegration, and though they do certainly employ a lot more computers than their forebearers they are ultimately still counter-transhumanist and won't make a categorical leap. Their usage of AI is in the category of fending off influence from foreign AIs, and their not entirely unfounded belief that they've got enemies means they won't import advanced cybernetics.

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Viewer6991 In reply to MetalSlimeHunt [2019-04-20 18:12:53 +0000 UTC]

Ah right, I had forgotten they were in the counter-transhumanist bloc.

California and Cascadia sound pretty smug.

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RtasVader [2019-04-19 01:38:00 +0000 UTC]

>Putinist-Erdoganist system
U P H O L D

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MetalSlimeHunt In reply to RtasVader [2019-04-19 19:02:31 +0000 UTC]

"What do the people want? Who can say? But what I want I am certain of."

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OneHellofaBird [2019-04-19 00:19:54 +0000 UTC]

this reminds me of when I composed a scenario of a near-baseline guy who writes a rent check to his conurb's AI v.4.1 and then the departing enforcement bot makes a 180 and tells him that it's been upgraded to v.4.1.1 and requires another rent check for its own to fund the overwriting of the old AI, and the renter will be promptly refunded once the AIs have been--harmonized


naturally, v.4.1.2 takes over enforcement functions, and needs a check of its own, to be refunded promptly--

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BassoeG [2019-04-18 13:31:08 +0000 UTC]

Just how self-sufficient are Japan's robots in terms of maintaining the infrastructure which maintains them/building more robots? Could they theoretically keep working entirely autonomously after the death of the last Japanese?


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If there isn't enough money for space colonies, has anyone tried using transhumanism to cut out the expense of needing to replicate an earthly environment as opposed to just adapting the colonists? Cut costs down to dropping the self-replicating colonists and their associated biotech, then letting them build everything themselves as opposed to shipping it from earth.


Design a biologically plausible martian transhuman. Technical challenges:

• Cold.
The easiest problem to solve. All it'll take is sufficient blubber and fur insulation.

• Radiation.
No practical solutions, but a few extremophile microorganisms can pull it off and if we've got the biotechnology to create these posthumans in the first place, maybe we can reverse-engineer their methods. Tardigrade genetics xenotransplantation!

• Low atmospheric pressure leading to inconveniences like boiling bodily fluids, inability to breath, not enough air to transmit vibrations for soundwaves, etc.
No practical ideas other than nonverbal sign language and/or massively enlarged ears, possibly prehensile and usable as semaphores for the communication issue and eyes armored with transparent chitin like arthropods.

• No oxygen.
• No food.
• While there's water, it's frozen in the icecaps and underground, making it somewhat inaccessible.
Create another species in a symbiotic relationship with Homo ‎Ares. A hardy extremophile plant with enormously deep-burrowing, water-sapping roots which rather than releasing the oxygen it produces into the atmosphere, concentrates it inside rigid-shelled berries or nuts. Give H. ‎Ares has massive lung capacity on par with marine mammals, letting them go comparatively long times between "breaths" which take the form of picking said berries or nuts, placing them in their mouths and biting through their shells to release their contents. Similar species of plant or possibly the same species with different types of berries or nuts being color-coded for their contents contain water and calories. The plants require their H. ‎Ares symbiotes to provide dung to fertilize them in the sterile martian environment, farm them on a mass scale on account of their being essential for their civilization and manually pollinate them.

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MetalSlimeHunt In reply to BassoeG [2019-04-18 21:19:06 +0000 UTC]

Japan isn't going to die off entirely, or anything. Most likely they'll get out of their rut, but only with the rise of a sufficiently popular radical movement which has yet to come.


Japan's robots are on the highest level slaved to human controllers, because Japan (wisely) believes they might end up like California if they took the last steps. If everyone in Japan were to die a lot of mundane functions would continue based on automatically repeating orders, such as placing new stocks on shelves and throwing out the expired food until they ran out of shipments to get them from. If nobody intervened after a few years 99% of the robots will have gone idle due to maxing out all permissible actions, with small infinite loops of robot work comprising the remainder.


Transhumanism isn't to the level necessary to ignore life support wholesale, though you'd probably desperately wish for some of the survival-type augmentations if you were caught up in a space disaster. Ultimately the focus has shifted towards healing Earth for the moment, since any milestone after the achieved Mars landings is far off.

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rds98 [2019-04-18 13:24:13 +0000 UTC]

So what are the powers of a transhuman? 

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MetalSlimeHunt In reply to rds98 [2019-04-18 21:13:39 +0000 UTC]

Nothing unbelievable, really. You can get organs replaced with equal or slightly superior cybernetics, and several augmentations have been developed to reduce the risk of brain death such as oxygen reserve systems and artificial blood with extremely high oxygen carry capacity.


The wildest stuff is in military augmentations, but it amounts to so many secret guns for if you get captured.

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rds98 In reply to MetalSlimeHunt [2019-04-19 00:06:41 +0000 UTC]

Oh. I assumed things like cybernetic strength. 

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MisterArtMaster101 [2019-04-18 07:42:13 +0000 UTC]

This is worse than my 'A New World' setting... where the various Federal Confederations ('FedCons'), Mega Corporations ('MegCorps', to differentiate from the standard idea of the Mega Corp), and the successor of the UN ('SolForce') all have varying levels of surveillance states (due to the fact that horrible synth-plagues are so easy to manufacture that you can literally do it in the basement to start out with and the fact that 4th Gen Memetic Weapons are actually a thing), are very authoritarian, have laws patterned around the "Political and Economic Equality Act" -which forces a decentralization of economic and political (i.e. population) power from the growing megacities and into the usually-left-to-rot rural areas, as an aftereffect of the Rural Insurrections- that is implemented whenever possible, all of them have underwater colonies all across the world's oceans, and conflict is rife all across the solar system...

Also, this setting is incredibly flawed as any US breakup is fundamentally impossible unless forced upon by another superpower... which is impossible because 1) the US economy is -despite everything- the cornerstone of the world economy and 2) nukes.

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MetalSlimeHunt In reply to MisterArtMaster101 [2019-04-18 21:11:05 +0000 UTC]

The world economy collapsed with America, have no doubt. Nuclear weapons only entered the equation in terms of making sure military leadership didn't jump the gun while the US was entering a state of civil collapse, which they thankfully were avoiding even before governments were established.

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MisterArtMaster101 In reply to MetalSlimeHunt [2019-04-18 23:37:30 +0000 UTC]

No, the Civil War answered the question of how the US will dissolve, and that is it won't unless you want wanton destruction (as in 'apocalyptic').

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MetalSlimeHunt In reply to MisterArtMaster101 [2019-04-19 00:06:24 +0000 UTC]

The past doesn't control the future.

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MisterArtMaster101 In reply to MetalSlimeHunt [2019-04-19 00:20:48 +0000 UTC]

No, it does. The past dictates the present which dictates the future. That is a constant in history. Since the precedent of succession from the US is that the government is willing to burn a good portion of an entire state and bleed through four years of industrial warfare to keep it together, then there is very little that a secessionist can do.

That is why the phrase 'those who don't learn from history are bound to repeat it' is rather solid as advice...

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RebelOfGod [2019-04-18 04:18:21 +0000 UTC]

Yes, o'mally is back in business.

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AbleArcher1928 [2019-04-18 04:17:39 +0000 UTC]

Definitely the anti-More of the Same.

What caused the insularity of Canada and Australia?

Also, what are world demographics like? I'll take it Africa, with it's new dominance can now make full advantage of the 2-3 billion Africans there will be by this time. Also, I would expect the highly technophobic Haredim, who at this point have among the highest TFR in the world, to dominate Israel by this time.

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MetalSlimeHunt In reply to AbleArcher1928 [2019-04-18 21:06:14 +0000 UTC]

Canada got hit hard by the crisis period, since in addition to drunken trees and melted permafrost the US was falling apart just next door. They were prepared for a steady trickle of refugees from the Global South over a few decades, and what they got were millions of fleeing Americans in a few years. The experience was decidedly humbling, if not to the point of the RSA.


Australia, on the other hand, turned to the far-right to solve their problems and got solutions of that nature. Canada was harmed by the loss of both the US and the UK as reliable partners in a short timeframe, but Australia was devastated. The new government precluded friendly relations with the Chinese and generally turned the entire island into a fortress. In modern times they're falling just short of rogue state status for their crimes during the crisis period, which particularly regarding racism straddles the line on being genocide. As is, their continued political violence against dissidents keeps Australia distant from the world.


Africa's population shot up, though having access to reliable birth control methods and being partway towards zero growth when the crisis started put results on the low side of projected. A slower long-term growth continues through the 70s, kept up by quality of life gains.


Israeli society was reformatted by the demands of the climate crisis, and at one point narrowly turned away from a plan that would have openly sought to wipe out Palestine (and possibly destroyed the world with the likelihood of causing a nuclear war before AI-boosted ABM tech matured). Ultimately, having to coexist with their neighbors and restructure their way of life on pain of losing the Prisoner's Dilemma means that Israel in 2070 has a majority who might be classed as secular but have a more complicated relationship with Jewish cultural identity as well. The Haredim are still around but continuously lose their children to mainstream society, growing older and greyer on average each year.

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PersephoneEosopoulou [2019-04-18 03:34:38 +0000 UTC]

Bleak.

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MetalSlimeHunt In reply to PersephoneEosopoulou [2019-04-18 20:43:23 +0000 UTC]

Could be much bleaker. Things are actually starting to look up by the 70s.

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PersephoneEosopoulou In reply to MetalSlimeHunt [2019-04-18 23:33:28 +0000 UTC]

True I'm just thinking of all the environmental degradation.

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