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So Sticks & Amy are okay, but where are the other boys?
DO NOT STEAL, EDIT OR REPOST
Art Β© Sally Vinter
STH Β© SEGA
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Comments: 33
I like how you wrote Perci in this comic as oppose to how she is normally written in the show. It feels more like her ROL personality.
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Ahh I love Sonic's face in the last panel!
Looking forward to the next page!
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sonic seems extra agressive.
plus i LOVE how you're leaving us in the dark
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coop when the fuckers steal this comic and put it on youtube youll be fucking glad you put your watermark everywhere. you have every right to put a watermark. and my god its not that obtrusive. keep up the good work.Β
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Thanks, Becca
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Man I'm am starting to love your comic I can't wait for more
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I don't know the effect you were going for but I find the line around Sonic's pupil jarring in the third panel.
Really great art here. You're keeping the shading very detailed.
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Woohoo! Β Page 2!
I can't wait to see where this goes. Β You always create such great stories
And personally, I don't see your watermarks as a problem. Β I completely understand the precautions you're taking with protecting your artwork and honestly it should be understood by the majority of DA. Β Art theft is a serious problem. Β I recently dealt with a person on tumblr who had edited a picture of mine and used it as an icon. Β That instance was taken care of rather quickly and without too much of a fight. Β What a lot of people don't understand about artwork is that even if it's fan art, artists still put a lot of themselves into what they draw. Β Art is the way we express ourselves. Β It's a reflection of ourselves, what we love, what we hate... for some of us it's the ONLY way we can put ourselves out there. Β And that's what hurts the most about art theft-- it's almost as if the thief is literally saying "I don't care about what emotion or feeling you put into this". Β That's why it hurts. Β It's a disregard of our emotions, our artistic passion (at least, that's my opinion on the subject). Β The watermarks don't distract from the imagery one bit (not for me anyways). Β You do you, celepom. Β
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Well, that was needlessly melodramatic. 
And SallyVinter, I'm curious about your claim of someone profiting from your work. Forgive my skepticism, but can you prove it?
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If you wanted a response from me, maybe you should have responded to me instead of trolling the comments like a coward.
Do you want a gold star? Drawing fan art because you enjoy it is not something that makes you unique and special. I'd have to say that most artists who draw fan art do it because they enjoy the source matter. Purely for-profit fan art would have to be the less common, considering there isn't much profit to be had in it aside from possible exposure.
And while I'm sorry someone stole some of your artwork, I've been dealing with this shit almost every day for the past year. Not just my own work, either, but my friends. They've been having their work stolen as well and used for-profit on other websites. Youtube and Redbubble are the worst for people stealing others' work and profiting off of it. I've had some taken down but I have no doubt others have popped up, same goes for my friends. It's exhausting fighting this shit all the time, especially when you're not seeing a penny for something you made in the first place for the fun of it.
While I do not understand how watermarks = insecurity, maybe people feel insecure because art is undervalued in out society. People want or expect art and entertainment for free not taking into consideration the time, effort, training, years of work and mental and physical exhaustion that can take it's toll on a person. And you know what? I am insecure about my art. Every time I make something I see the flaws or errors and I work to improve myself over time. Maybe someday I'll be more "confident" but I don't want your kind of confidence. At least I don't feel a smug sense of arrogant superiority while I have tantrums over things that don't affect me. I, and many others, watermark my work. This does not affect you in any negative way. Learn to move on.
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How am I trolling the comments by replying to someone else? Is EmoteGalXD trolling me because she replied to my earlier comment?
Wait a minute, did you say YouTube? I think I see what's happening. You saw your fan art included in some AMV montage and thought it was being stolen, right? FYI, that's not stealing. It's only stealing if the user explicitly states that he created the work himself, not because he reblogged it on his page. If I fave this pic, does that mean I'm stealing it because it shows up on my account? There's nothing wrong with reblogging someone's work any more than if I emailed a friend some funny artwork I saw online. If anything you should take it as a compliment that your work is appreciated enough for it to be shared by others. If I'm wrong, prove to me how art thievery is depleting your funds, don't just give me baseless claims. You never answered that question.
Your statement that you have to deal with art thievery on a daily basis sounds like hyperbole at best. To be blunt, you're not nearly at that level. No way an amateur Sonic fan art gets her art stolen every day. I was right in thinking you paranoid, fuelled by your admitted insecurity. You've been decrying thieves surrounding you without a shred of evidence to back it up. At least demonstrate it in your reply if you want to be taken seriously.
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Not all of us have the ego the size of yours. You're right, that's what art thieves do and it's wrong. People spend hours on a piece only for it to be taken away from them and it can be soul destroying and tarnishes one's confidence. Maybe you've never felt that before but it makes you want to give up drawing altogether. I agree that the watermarks could be smaller but unfortunately this is the artist's choice.
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"Soul destroying"? Don't be ridiculous. If anything, it's funny. I already told SallyVinter that I've had my art stolen before. About ten years ago, some twit stole my fan Maverick designs for Mega Man X and claimed he created them on another site. I wasn't outraged, I was amused. The truth was exposed quickly and it just showed that the thief thought highly enough about my art to want it as his own. I didn't want to give up drawing (as you so gloomily predict), I was emboldened. Maybe others have stolen my art in the past decade; I don't give a shit about it either way. It doesn't affect how I feel about my work, and that's what counts. I'm not trying to vindicate art thievery, but you - and everyone else on this page - are blowing it way, way out of proportion.
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It's ridiculous to you but not everyone else. Wow... ten years ago? For artists like ourselves it happens more often than that. It's on other websites such as youtube and pininterest and such.
Like I said before, not all of us have the ego you have.
No we aren't.
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What you call 'ego', I call 'confidence'. Here's a little info: people like SallyVinter who use watermarks excessively are desperately insecure. They're so afraid of losing credit to someone else when all fan art amounts to is a popularity contest. I draw fan art because I love to, but I share it for recognition like everyone else. The more watermarks you plaster over your work, the more you're afraid that someone might steal that recognition, which just goes to show that you have no self-esteem. Ultimately, the real artist and the thief know who is the true talent behind the artwork, which is all that should really matter to you. If SallyVinter was more confident to accept that, perhaps she wouldn't be so overprotective of her work.
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Unfortunately some of us are like that where we have zero confidence. It depends the person. As you say you have confidence... maybe a bit too much. But some of us just don't have that. I agree again that the watermarks should be smaller but it can't be helped. You can't enforce an under confident person as it makes them crumble even more. Guide them yes, but not the way you dealt with the situation right now.
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How else do you want me to phrase it? There aren't a million ways you can say "Use less watermarks", and I've told SallyVinter as much. If she wants to cover her work with copyrights, that's her problem.
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Thank you! And I'm glad you're enjoying it so far. I'm sorry you've had to go through art theft too. It's...disheartening to say the least *hugs* Thank you for your support!
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Eeesh, the watermark isn't doing this comic any favours. It's bad enough when Deviants abuse it in their gallery, but it's fast becoming a recurring problem if you paste it on every page. Just drop it.
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Eeesh, this comment isn't doing this comic any favors. It's bad enough when deviants abuse other deviants on their art, but it's fast becoming a recurring problem when you paste your opinion on every page and no one really gives a shit. Just drop it. Click out off of her page if it bothers you this much. Stop harassing everyone in the comments. No one is forcing you to read this and I am 100% positive that she'd rather you not read it if it hurts your delicate eyes so much. It's her art, not yours. It's her comic, not yours. It's her right as an artist to protect herself and as a an artist yourself you should understand that.Β
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It never hurts to hear a different viewpoint on something as long as there's nothing profane being said. The issue with the watermark isn't a big deal for me, but it's okay for someone to speak their mind about it. Given at how the watermark comment was awhile back, it may just be that he decided to drop it or quit viewing.
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I've been having a lot of issues with art theft. I hate putting the watermarks there and having to cover up my hard work but this is the only thing I can do aside from swallowing the pill and accepting that theft happens. And that's not something I'm ready to do yet. If they're going to steal my art I can at least make it difficult for them. And if they repost it, well, at least my name is on there so it can be traced back to me instead of having a stranger claim it as theirs
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I've had my art stolen before too, but you don't see me plastering watermarks all over my artwork. The "(C) Sally Vinter 2016" is enough, since it can't be easily removed and it's not as obtrusive as having multiple watermarks pasted across every single panel. All you're doing is advertising your paranoia. Honestly, what are you so afraid of? The only thing you're risking is some inept git claiming he drew this himself. It's not as if he's leeching money off of you or anything. The bigger problem is that all these watermarks are impairing the visual look of the comic. I certainly don't want to read this as it is. How many more readers do you want to alienate before you change it?
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That's your choice, this is mine. And is it really paranoia when you're right? And, yes, people have made money off of me while I've done this for free. And, you're wrong about the "(C) Sally Vinter 2016" not being easy to remove - anyone with a cursory understanding of photoshop could remove it within 5 minutes. The larger and more complex the watermark, the more difficult it is to remove it. It a necessary evil at this point.
I disagree, the bigger problem is the art thieves themselves. If the issue wasn't so rampant I wouldn't have put the watermarks on here in the first place. For the longest time I didn't and when I started I'd try to blend the mark in somewhere unobstructive but that just makes it easier to remove/crop out. So far you're the only person who has complained while others have been supportive and don't find it obstructive. If you don't want to read it because of the watermarks, that's your choice too.
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Well, to be fair, that's mostly something artists need to do to prevent even a small portion of their work from being stolen these days. It'd be great if she didn't have to use it, but it's a security measure to protect an artist's content. Unfortunately, it's a necessary evil these days.
Though even if she didn't need to, it IS her choice whether to use the watermark on her own art or not.
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What's wrong with a signature in some corner of the image? Even if a thief cropped it, the unedited image would be enough to prove ownership.
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It's not so much an issue with proving ownership, although it can be. It's still a disrespectful thing that happens. And typically, a thief is more likely to edit out a signature than a watermark; a watermark's too much work and too difficult to edit out, so it's a stronger defense measure to deter people from stealing it.
IMO, the watermark isn't even that imposing. It feels kinda nitpicky to complain about something I hardly noticed until it was pointed out, to be honest.
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I hope Tails and Knux will be fine... Eggman must be stopped as fast as possible!
[[Awesome job!]]
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