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Visit this awesome pic to know my opinion on this matter. fav.me/d7ajiy3
And my own reply comments.deviantart.com/1/4409β¦ because I don't like to speak English a lot again and again.
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STOP THE DISCUSSIONS. ALL IS EXTREMELY EASY! DON'T LIKE - DON'T LOOK. Β
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lol. there is no hidden message. my goddess, there is more twisted thinking in this world than I thought. *shields children* yikes. i'm going to bed now extremely troubled.
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You will be blocked for the abuse. I was ready to discussion, but as I can see you are hypocritical redneck if you become personal. I mean, if you think that I'm "sick individual" who are you for me in that case?
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well I guess I should put my two cents in, since I am a mother of four happily married to my husband. i am also bi sexual and like girls and girls together, hot as heck, BUT...I do not believe that disney tried to imply anything other than the girls are sisters and not sexually attracted to each other. there is no hinting at that, and the mind that takes this thinking is obviously troubled. the message of disney was the bond between sisters, and to suggest it meant something else is defiling the sisterly love message disney is trying to portray. i would be all for it otherwise if they were not related, but in this case they are as they were both daughters of the king and queen. I would not even be accepting if the girls were from different fathers, there is a line you don't cross. that's what makes us human.
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10 years ago and you would be saying that it was because they were gay.Β
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I think this is what we want to believe. Think about how much money they earn. I respect your indignation. But why all of you choose me as your victim? I just see that Disney are not so good guys who try to portray the "true sisterly love" and the family values. It's a business, dirty thing without standards. Just look around. What the most popular thing you know? Maybe... anime? Big heads with huge eyes and little nose, thin bodies. Two girls with the cute love story. It's too similar with Frozen, isn't it? They try to find the fans. And they did it.
If you tell that they had a sacred idea, tell me what the idea of Tangled?
And another one - Anna wasn't in movie originally. They just wanted to write a love story for Elsa. And... created a sister? Tell me I'm wrong. But I'm too realist to think it's not a publicity stunt. Not a time now to create lesbians in cartoons. But the hidden "shoujo-ai". That's what people want to see and love. I retry I'm happy they're not a brothers. Because it would be more popular in some quarters.
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omg this is super hawt...but incest it that allowed on DA??? I'm just worried because I don't want u to get in trouble!!!
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Thanks. DeviantArt allowed many other things as I can see. Do you think the picture show two girls who stay close is more wrong thing than art shows three or four big muscle guys having sex with each other? or art shows "love" between adult man and little boy?
All is OK with Elsanna. They are just lovely girls, aren't they?
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dA doesn't actually allow incestal artwork.
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Where does it say it does not allow incest?
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i think all is great! art can be anything it needs to be! long as no one who doesnt want to get hurt doesnt get hurt...
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Just forget the haters (you tend to realize the hypocrisy of some of them). Great work on the picture! The coloring and use of bright colors reminds me of stained glass. Really wonderful work.
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Wait. How is making out or wanting to have sex with your sister okay? Where's the hypocrisy? You use big words but you don't know what they mean. And on top of it, there's no evidence or 'hypocrosiy' to back you up.
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I agree sistest is wrong!
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Because it's fiction. You really act like it's real life. Might as well censor everything that is morally questionable. Is that your view?
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Thanks. Very appreciate it!Β
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I don't like ElsAnna shipping I don't like (godsthispictureishot) ElsAnna shipping....
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Thanks XD
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You do realize you're promoting incest, right? I mean, everyone has their weird quirks but incest relationships is a whole 'nother ball game.
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Hey, I have my own opinion about Elsa and Anna relationships. It's not siblings for me.
I dislike incest, 'cause it's a wrong thing, you know. But if anyone has a resentment with Elsanna - I think it must be adressed to Disney who make them so strange couple (meaningly or not)
Don't want to talk about how long they lived apart, no relations of Anna and Kristoff as argument against Elsanna shipping and other things that make them not so close friends. I tell friends, because I can't tell sisters. They aren't even similar in appearance. I suppose if they was - they would have loved by pervy incest lovers only. But I know many people - men and women - who can't resist to what they see. It's impossible to overpersuade yourself. I don't see sisters. I see two girls with the cute relationships. And extra pompous love story for just family.
Hope you don't believe that the fact Disney is "for children" they don't worry about popularity of their movies. They know what people want to see. And I happy that Elsa and Anna are sisters, not brothers. Because no one sees something wrong in yaoi or even yao between Dante and Vergil (if you know these devil twins) We live in a terrible time XD
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It doesn't matter what it's like for you though. It matters what they are. They are sisters. Disney didn't make them strange at all. People are perverted and decided to do this. I've met (and even myself have) sisters that don't look anything like, but they are in fact blood sisters. They lived apart in a room down the hall because her sister was afraid of killing her sister. They are friends but it's obvious you've never had to protect someone you love. I might guess that you are an only child, but I may be wrong. Yaoi is wrong because its between siblings. It's just as wrong as Dante and Virgil, or Sam and Dean From Supernatural. It's sick and people who think this is okay or makes up this bogus relationship to siblings, obviously has major sexual problems.
Β Yes, we do live in a terrible time.
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People aren't guilty that they don't know what the family is. As well, they aren't guilty that the producers want to get more money and please everyone. Also they aren't guilty that the world have changed and stuff that you take as abnormal is just typical thing for them. They aren't guilty that contemporary videogames, anime, comics and movies haven't canon relationships. This people are miserable and very lonely girls and boys. And they deserve a compassion, not a scorn and anger. I don't wanna talk about Frozen. I have a family and I know what I say. Unfortunatelly, my english is not so good to say more. And I glad that you are so innocent and staid girl. You are rare artefact, I guess. I repeat that I don't support the incest. But many countries do it. Too philosophical theme for comments on DeviantArt. I envy you, if you really think that guys who earn big money on their project carry meaning in it.
And, Alleluia! I meet the girl who dislike "Wincest" Β
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The irony of your words is astounding. I am far from an innocent individual but somehow you have to be an innocent and naive to be against something as atrocious as incest. It doesn't matter how many 'countries' do it, it's still wrong and you say, 'Oh I understand them, it's okay to be this way' is just as bad as someone being okay with incest. You don't need a family to know incest is wrong. Yes, your parents or siblings can teach you a couple things along the way, but there are some ideals and borders you already have in your brain. That's called instinct. I would know it's not right to sleep with my dad or have sex with my sister. I don't need to grow up in some third world country that promotes incests to be against it, or need to grow up as an orphan to know incest is wrong. That's just ridiculous to say that people aren't guilty of their actions or their sick beliefs. It's because we accept people like this in society that this is even happening! For example, nowadays, when someone murders another person, the immediate questions raised are, 'What were the murderer's home life? Where did he grow up? Was he abused?' Who. Gives. A. Shit. He killed someone and that person will never come back again and the family will be forever haunted by what happened to them. Where's the justice for the victim? Society and your way of thinking has made the world a worse place to be in because where incest, murder or even abuse is considered 'not someone's fault because they don't know any better', there's someone on the other end having it happening to them right now and if they go up and saying something about it, we should consider the offender's feelings, not the offendee's. It's prosperous and scary.
Β Here's a perfect example for you, using the information and tacts you have used with the whole 'not guilty'. If a man who never grew up with a family (an orphan and raised in orphan's homes, even though none of these people who are promoting this crap with Elsa and Anna are even orphans) gets married one day has a kid and then has sex with his kid, is he considered guilty as to quote you, 'they aren't guilty that the world have changed and stuff that you take as abnormal is just typical thing for them.'?
Β Think carefully before answering.
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One question. Can you explain why the world is in such a condition now? And how to fix it?
If you are american you must to know the situation with pedophilia and parents--rapists. It's the world. And we live in that world. Do you really think I never thought about that? I hope you will find the way we can change the life for the better. I agree to follow you. I just think it's not about fanart on DeviantArt or pixiv. It's not about the people's minds. This society was formed for centuries. To overcome it - it's a dream of millions.
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The world's in such a state because the world's forgotten morals, ideals, and purposely blurred the line of what's right and what's wrong to suit their own actions and consequences of those actions. It's the oldest and easiest story of all. Why take responsibility for something wrong and suffer the consequences, when you can manipulate others who feel or have the done the same and create an appearance that nothing is wrong.
Β And honestly, this didn't happen over centuries of time, this happened in the last thirty years. It was unheard of of sisters being together and that being seen as 'okay' or 'not really abnormal' thirty years ago. I've never ever heard of where incest has ever been accepted in society or viewed as normal. There are a couple of barbaric people that still live in the world and that will probably never stop but that's free will for you. But we do have the free will to be different, to change, to do the right thing, so that the next generation will be better than us. It used to be, 'don't judge the bunch by a couple of spoiled apples' but almost all the apples are spoiled now and the bunch needs to be thrown and replanted so things like this aren't seen as okay or are accepted. There are thousands of people who have changed millions and billions of peoples lives throughout mankind's existence. The difference is, those 'dreamers' can come together and make it a reality. All it takes is one person to start it, one person to speak out against it.
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I've got nothing against gays or anything like that but incestal relationships are sick and wrong. Frozen didn't even have a 'underlying message' that they were gay. It's sad because that's how sisters really truly act because they're family and they love each other. People don't know what family is and they assume they're sexually attracted to each other. It's so disgusting. They could of both been gay and that would of been fine, but seriously? Gay for each other? That's a stain that's very hard to wash out in one's mind.
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For real! This is the type of perverted crap that I hate seeing. Incest just straight up defiles that bond/link between family members. It is sick, and I can't believe that people do art of this nonsense.
The "romantic" moments that people talk about in the film were examples of sisterly love and bonding. It happens in family units, people just decide to twist it ridiculously and disgustingly out of proportion, like in this example.Β
The art itself is nice, I love the shading and color tones. The subject is just flat-out repulsive and wrong.
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It's fiction. Learn to not get angry as such a small thing. I mean, what would the world be like if we could not hate? I don't think this is promoting incest as much as you guys are making this out to be. I would encourage you to keep an open mind, the idea of incest relationships is still open to the topic of debate. And this idea of going against incest relationships might be outdated in a couple decades. If you look at history, many things were legal back then that we frown upon right now such as polygamy, lynching, and etc. I mean, only recently has the LGBT movement been accepted into our society (and still frowned upon in some countries) You say you are fine with gays, yet you do not see the process of how society changes.
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This is where it starts. Frozen is the most popular animated movie ever. How many people have brought the children to see this, young, teen, or even couples and they go on the internet and see this bullshit? It's not a small thing, because incest is wrong. I suppose you'll start saying that the if the hunter and the dog start kissing and having sex from the Fox and Hound movie childrens movie (as Frozen is too) is okay because it's such a small thing, right?
Β I can't believe what I am reading, 'the idea of incest relationships is still open to the topic of debate. And this idea of going against incest relationships might be outdated in a couple decades'. With people like your sick and disgusting idea of what love is, as well as logic, it probably will be.
Β And I am going to let you in on a little secret: GAYS are not the same as INCEST. Lesbians or homosexual men are not incestal people nor or they even related to it. You say, 'yet you do not see the process of how society changes' but that's not society changing. Accepting incest is society jumping off a cliff and taking pretty much everyone with them! You are either personally okay with incest from personal experience, or you have absolutely no knowledge of what incest really is actually how it has broken the lives of thousands of people.
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Incest is a VERY different moral boundary than homosexuality, FYI.
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I'm sure it is. But are you saying it is not possible for the future to accept incest?Β
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It isn't possible. It defiles the fabric of the family unit, it causes immense health issues in offspring and heck, we haven't even looked at what the psychological effects are. There is a reason that marrying your second cousin is no longer legal (in most states).
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My thought of society changing? Or the medical advances? And Lesbians cannot produce offspring. And you still have not answered my question.Β
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It does not cause health issues in immediate offspring, but after a couple generations it does cause some issues. If that is the reason for not being able to marry your second cousin, then I ask you this. Would the reason still be there if there were future cures and medical improvements to remove these medical issues?
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Tell me, if the same were applied to pedophilia, would it be wrong in your sight?
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y thought of society changing? Or the medical advances? And Lesbians cannot produce offspring. And you still have not answered my question.Β
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Pedophilia and incest are not the same things. Don't tell so. Becuse pedophilia is outrage against defensless. It's the most wrong thing in this world.
And if you adore to lead the discussion - please (really pray) tell something about it to plenty yaoi fangirls. Maybe you will succeed.
And about Elsanna - I don't say they're hot couple like many people here do. I said they are very lovely together. Beautiful couple. I enjoy to look at them together and I have fun to draw them. Please note - I didn't draw a kiss a kiss or some of the passion themes. Because I don't know how wrong incest is. It's to hard philosophical theme for me. And for you too.
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