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LordVurtax In reply to ??? [2013-04-11 03:25:13 +0000 UTC]
I was simply showing you how much of a bigot you sounded like. Truth hurts, doesn't it?
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itsaaudraw In reply to LordVurtax [2013-04-11 03:25:38 +0000 UTC]
Implying you don't look like a bigot either?
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LordVurtax In reply to itsaaudraw [2013-04-11 03:29:14 +0000 UTC]
You call me a bigot, you deny being a bigot yourself. I know I have my biases, I never once said I wasn't opinionated. But I'm not going to back down from them. people like you claim to be open minded and without bias. You aren't, you're just as solidified in what you believe to be true as the next person. You knew from the start where I stood, you should've known that when faith burns from within that that isn't going to change, you should've known I would never, and will never consider abortion to be anything but murder. I've heard your argument from a million people in the past and a million people today. And it makes me absolutely sick.
So yes, I know I have my bias's, and I know I'm not perfect, at least I don't deny it.
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itsaaudraw In reply to LordVurtax [2013-04-11 03:33:58 +0000 UTC]
I denied nothing, there you are assuming things yet again. I am opinionated as well, and like you, I am willing to give my two cents. I'm entitled to my opinion, like you are yours. I have never said you aren't allowed to have your opinions, in fact I stated I respect them because they are yours, and not mine. Like you said, as a Christian you stand by your beliefs and like most people of faith, try to make those that aren't see it from your point of view. That's merely what I was doing. Yes, I have my own biases, I admit this, but isn't it worth a shot to at least TRY to give you my biases, as you give yours? I'm willing to have an open mind, I am. But I've heard your argument many times as well, and I stick by my opinion, like you do yours. I promise, I wasn't attempting to change your entire opinion, just give you insight into mine so you could at the very least respect it, like I do yours.
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LordVurtax In reply to itsaaudraw [2013-04-11 03:35:42 +0000 UTC]
It will be a cold day in hell before I will tolerate the 50 million plus deaths brought by abortion in America alone.
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GoatQueen In reply to ??? [2013-04-10 19:58:38 +0000 UTC]
Fuck you I don't need you to tell me I should "reconsider" anything.
Anyways -cough-
People wonder why others get the wrong image of Christians. Maybe if we didn't callously try to impose shit on them and tried to understand them better instead, we wouldn't turn people away from God so often. I find, that the crazies that try to impose their lifestyle like this so callously on others is one of the main reasons people resent religion. I believe the best way to deal with this is to not have sex until you're ready to handle all the consequences--especially an unplanned pregnancy. Making sure you're less probable to be in the situation one wouldn't really have to face the problem of abortion. Life isn't always ideal though, and this idea no matter how good it is isn't going to be followed by everyone. That's why you have tolerance.
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Paradoxigent In reply to GoatQueen [2013-04-11 00:10:15 +0000 UTC]
Though I disagree with your views on abortion fellow Christian, you are absolutely correct. We can only suggest, not force.
(And to be honest, talking/debating/arguing about this hot topic kind of stuff is very entertaining and a good experience all together. )
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kitsumekat In reply to GoatQueen [2013-04-10 21:53:28 +0000 UTC]
This is the Christian is the christian everyone likes.
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kitsumekat In reply to GoatQueen [2013-04-11 20:52:51 +0000 UTC]
I mean it. If people see Christians like you, they would have a positive outlook on Christians as a whole.
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ProAbortion101 In reply to ??? [2013-04-10 19:55:31 +0000 UTC]
Yup, that's right, as a Christian, it's your duty to do what you're told in a book that was written 2000 years ago by people who were basically tripping balls. BAD GIANTSPACEPANDA BAD.
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ProAbortion101 In reply to ??? [2013-04-10 19:19:05 +0000 UTC]
If science is what you care about for determining your answers, use that scientific research to learn the truth.
What truth is that? That the "child" is alive close to conception? Sorry to break this to you, but obviously the cells in an embryo are alive. If they weren't, it wouldn't be an embryo.
I'm not sure what truth you're talking about, but it doesn't sound like any kind of truth I'm interested in.
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LordVurtax In reply to ProAbortion101 [2013-04-10 19:29:25 +0000 UTC]
You present nothing here of any substance and actually goes to prove my point ironically enough.
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ProAbortion101 In reply to LordVurtax [2013-04-10 19:35:17 +0000 UTC]
The cells in an appendix are still alive when it's removed as part of an appendectomy. By your line of argument, you should also be against appendectomies.
That you claim that I present nothing of any substance speaks more to your inability understand my point than to the substance of the post itself.
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LordVurtax In reply to ProAbortion101 [2013-04-10 19:42:43 +0000 UTC]
Oh yes, because the cells that make up the entire child's being at conception can be totally compared to a matured appendix.
You make me sick.
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ProAbortion101 In reply to LordVurtax [2013-04-10 19:44:46 +0000 UTC]
I'm pretty sure that in more ways than not, the cells of an embryo at conception bear more similarity to an appendix than to a fully-grown human being. They both have human DNA and human cells in them, and neither bears any resemblance to any fully-grown human being.
So yes, the cells that make up the entire child's being at conception CAN totally be compared to a matured (what the hell is a "matured" appendix) appendix.
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ProAbortion101 In reply to ??? [2013-04-10 19:17:18 +0000 UTC]
You can't have exponential evidence. Look it up.
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TheLegendaryTrainer In reply to ??? [2013-04-10 18:45:51 +0000 UTC]
All I can say to that is lol.
Women have the rights to their own bodies you know.
I wouldn't even give you an 8/10 for your fail trolling efforts, more like 4/10 from me.
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LordVurtax In reply to TheLegendaryTrainer [2013-04-10 19:02:03 +0000 UTC]
Does a killer have a right to take someone's life because they have a right to their gun? Does a women - or a man - get to make the god-like decision on a child on whether he gets to live or die because they have a "right to their bodies"? If peope don't want children, they should stop having sex so liberally. Why is it that our society has degenerated to a neandrathal like state of existence and people like you are either blissfully unaware, don't care, or thinks that how life should be? is this really what we want for humanity's future? However short lived it may be.
Just keep in mind that you wouldn't be here today spouting your opinion (which clearly comes from the bandwagon, and not truly one you've come up with on your own deductive reasoning) if your Mom or Dad found you inconvenient.
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Dawnkittycat In reply to LordVurtax [2013-08-02 19:10:51 +0000 UTC]
Not to get involved in the argument, but what if the unwanted child turned into another hitler? Would you be all for it then, when everybody you know and love gets killed? Or is it still ok for someone to cause genocide because the mother couldn't afford to take care of it, or die because you made abortion illegal. Its the mothers genitals, child, and life and you can't control another living being. Is it fair for a mother to lose everything for the sake of her child? Who might end up growing in an Orphanage with people constantly walking in and walking out, taking his friends one by one. Also if you loved your mother, but she was going to die if she gave birth to you. Would you still hate it? Growing up without knowing the person who loved you died, but your father left because he didn't want someone who murdered your mother, his wife. If god wanted abortion to be illegal, he would have sent a sign. He would have stopped it. Btw there is such thing as rape to underage people and they can also become pregnant and lord knows what happens to 13 year olds walking around pregnant. So yeah thats my contribution 'ave a nice day.
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TheLegendaryTrainer In reply to LordVurtax [2013-04-10 20:32:11 +0000 UTC]
I do have a opinion, I'm not on any bandwagon. I didn't feel like spouting a detailed opinion to someone who has there own, wouldn't care, and is not going to change it for some random person they saw on the internet. But here it is anyway.
We don't need any more poverty stricken people on the streets. There is far more than enough, even where I live which has a very minimal population. Besides the fact that the embryo is simply a jumble of cells which cannot feel, think, see, hear, taste, touch etc. They don't even have a brain nor are they conscious! I don't support gender selective abortions, or any past the third trimester. But people have the rights to their own bodies, and the church can't take that away from them. And technically, the child is a part of their bodies as it could not live without the support of it's mother. Therefore they should be able to chose what they wish to do with it. And people have sex because it supposedly feels good, contraception is there for a reason. It is talked about and children are taught about it from the ages of ten(where I come from) and they teach them how to use many different types of it. They wouldn't teach us that when we are ten so that we can use it when we're twenty, do you think that we would remember how to put on a condom ten years later? I severely doubt it. And if the teenagers do have safe sex with condoms, etc, and it breaks or it's an accident do you think that a baby is going to do anything good for the 18 year old mother who is probably in college or university? Or being shoved in a flawed and already stuffed foster care system? No!
But whatever, we are both on different sides of the issue, and the arguing is pointless. You are entitled to your opinion, and I am entitled to mine, no matter where they may be. I respect your opinion and here is mine.
The best regards, ~TheLegendaryTrainer
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ProAbortion101 In reply to LordVurtax [2013-04-10 19:21:09 +0000 UTC]
Firstly, I want to know what a "neandrathal" (sic) like state of existence is, because that sounds like FUN.
Secondly, the opinion you are spouting is VERBATIM the opinion spouted by those on the LOOK AT ME I BELIEVE IN GOD bandwagon.
Hypocritical irony! Woo!
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LordVurtax In reply to ProAbortion101 [2013-04-10 19:27:48 +0000 UTC]
I'm on no bandwagon, in fact, any true christian who has come to a personal relationship with the one true god is on no such things. We know that God's word is to be trusted.
People in my camp also recognize the greater forces at work in this world who are pushing us towards entire societal and economic collapse to usher in the New World Order. Which at the center is controlled and condusted by the Freemason/Illuminati core that have programmed and indoctrinated society through controlled media and news seen mostly through TV, the internet was sort of anarcho to that for a while, but clearly ideas based in morality are not an aspect of Internet society.
As for Neandrathal, I'm talking about complete entire degeneration of social order, by this point, humanity is no greater than animals who will hump each other at a moments notice because they're horny. We have lost all sense of dignity, shame, respect, and purpose. Congratulations that you've degenerated that far.
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ProAbortion101 In reply to LordVurtax [2013-04-10 19:42:39 +0000 UTC]
You don't have a personal relationship with "the one true god". If you feel as though you do, you are therefore hallucinating. That's definitely going to do wonders for your credibility.
We don't know that God's word is to be trusted - please provide evidence to support this claim. And don't just shout "BIBLE" like the silly Christian you are. Please provide more evidence to support that a) God exists and b) if an omnipotent being exists, we should trust him/her/it.
You claim that you aren't on a bandwagon, but there are other people in your camp. I'm so glad that your trip in the bandwagon ended well, and now you and the other people on it have set up a camp. Interesting that you don't see that being in a camp and on a bandwagon are synonymous expressions.
Thank you also for letting us all know you're a conspiracy theorist. Let me get this straight - you believe in God (strike one), you have hallucinations of a personal relationship with him (strike two) and you believe in a conspiracy about a New World Order being ushered in. (Yes, you counted right, that's strike three). I think you've successfully rid yourself of any and all credibility in this discussion.
I don't like making ad hominem comments, but when your argument is so hollow, I feel as though I have little choice.
As to your final point, I was making fun of the fact that you'd misspelled "Neanderthal". Thank you for doing my job for me and mocking yourself. As for the rest of your point, excuse me while I brush myself off after falling off my chair from laughing so hard at your final point.
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RS-Kyra In reply to ??? [2013-04-10 18:43:29 +0000 UTC]
Oh dude you seriously almost had me there. Nice.
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LordVurtax In reply to RS-Kyra [2013-04-10 18:55:58 +0000 UTC]
And you're seriously too ignorant on the ulterior motives of the push for abortion to understand the real forces at work. If you and the rest of the dolts responding to me would take a few hours and realize you're being lied to hell and back on so many controversial issues, you wouldn't disregard such ideas as comical in the least sense.
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BeholdThePowerOfNod In reply to LordVurtax [2013-04-28 02:36:28 +0000 UTC]
It's apart of the woman's body, she has the right.
Besides, it would kill more people if abortion was abolished.
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LordVurtax In reply to BeholdThePowerOfNod [2013-04-28 23:36:56 +0000 UTC]
So since a murderer has a gun, he has the right to use it on the defenseless?
And that second comment is outright ignorant and unproven. But people like you would rather let people have sex out of wedlock like wild animals to then kill the innocent result of their own behavior than allow the child to have the same life you got to have.
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BeholdThePowerOfNod In reply to LordVurtax [2013-04-29 00:05:33 +0000 UTC]
That comparison is not a valid excuse.
Actually, abortion was abolished in the US some time ago, and what happened? women had to give abortions themselves by using coat hangers which resulted in women dying from infections.
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LordVurtax In reply to BeholdThePowerOfNod [2013-04-29 01:13:18 +0000 UTC]
It is entirely valid.
Oh yes, so let's make it safe for women to get abortions so they can kill their own children no problem. Why not legalize cocaine and black tar heroin so people can buy perfectly safe grown amounts and snort and inject it as much as they want with no risk factor?
The whole, "We had to do it because they were doing it anyway" is Not and never will be a viable reason for murder. You wanna see how evil and corrupt this whole practice is? Watch this [link]
But as long as you make this barbaric rationale to yourself that doesn't hold up in any talk containing any actually humanity to it.
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BeholdThePowerOfNod In reply to LordVurtax [2013-04-29 01:47:18 +0000 UTC]
Again with the invalid comparisons.
I see that you're too dense to see what you're doing.
Let me sum this up for you: There is no god, good day.
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LordVurtax In reply to BeholdThePowerOfNod [2013-04-29 03:53:42 +0000 UTC]
By your logic, nothing that conflicts with your viewpoint is allowed to be compared and show how dreadful your stance on issues are. Therefore you can continue in your irrational and insane logic and say such things aren't comparable and defend killing of millions of innocent children on the charge that the women would do it anyway, which is like handing a serial killer a gun because he was just going to kill people anyway. If you cannot see that, you are truly sick in the head.
Let me sum this up for you: you're conceited, you think you know everything, but you don't, you have already convinced yourself there is no god, and have subscribed to the belief that somehow and some way life began by non-living things rubbing up against each other a certain way and then suddenly became life, and that the most simplest of cells is more complex than the most advanced factories we have today was somehow created by chance, which is about equal to throwing letters, paper, and and binding up in the air and coming down as a dictionary.
Nevermind that Bible Prophecy is coming to fruition, nevermind that we have discovered the ruins of the Nephilim and their mummification (something that your sources clearly aren't telling you as expected), nevermind all the healing miracles and multiplication miracles, nevermind the near death experiences, which include athiests who include men like Howard Storm - a once to-the-grave athiest - who died, went to hell, was pulled out, and was sent back and is now a reverend. Nevermind we found Ramses army at the bottom of the Red Sea, or Noah's Ark in the Turkish Mountains. Nevermind the Bible foretold of Cars, the Internet Age, and Mass Transit Via Aircraft. Nevermind the staggering discoveries of the RATE research project published in the book "Thousands... Not Billions" that discovered three major findings that indicate the earth is less than 10,000 years old. Nevermind that science has been proved wrong before. Nevermind that if Jesus wasn't who he said he was, the moment he made a single sin or didn't perform miracles he would've been slaughtered and forgotten like every other false Messiah before him.
None of that matters, God isn't real, just because you say he isn't. Good luck convincing anything with that logic.
Good day
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ProAbortion101 In reply to LordVurtax [2013-04-10 19:24:04 +0000 UTC]
In what way are we possibly being lied to? No woman who has the right to an abortion can be forced to abort her child. We are simply giving her the option to. Is the real force you're talking about the freedom of choice? Oh noes, I guess we aren't getting that totalitarian Christian government we've always wanted.
In what way are we being lied to hell and back? Which controversial issues? And I think you'd find that most people arguing with you have considered these issues for far longer than a spoon-fed brainwashed religiousite like yourself. Well done on being wrong.
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LordVurtax In reply to ProAbortion101 [2013-04-10 19:34:40 +0000 UTC]
Have you taken one day in your life to do any research on secret societies? Have you ever once looked into how they're following Bible prophecy to the letter with their plans for a one-world government? Have you ever read up on ancient pagan rituals that sacrificed newborns to their idols? Have you ever once considered that all pagan gods and modern idols (mostly celebrities) in fact give Satan power?
Why don't you go do that for a bit, and then get back to me. I've got far more important things to do than to continuing to argue with someone who thinks it's people's right to murder those who can't say or do anything to defend themselves.
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ProAbortion101 In reply to LordVurtax [2013-04-10 19:50:39 +0000 UTC]
Yes, I have. I've studied many of them. I was reading about one of them today, in fact. The Cambridge Apostles. Pretty sure you'll find that they aren't following bible prophecy to the letter. Don't see any 666s flying around. Hang on, you've got me. Many of the members were MATHEMATICIANS. Get it? Mathematicians... numbers... 666. You totally have me there.
And what are these other important things you have to do? Watch more YouTube videos? Listen to some more Alex Jones? Make some more bigoted dA comments? I have to say, your daily activities don't sound very important to me.
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tunefulThaumaturge In reply to LordVurtax [2013-04-10 19:37:43 +0000 UTC]
I'm going to mark you down as a troll, there's no way you're serious about this.
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LordVurtax In reply to tunefulThaumaturge [2013-04-10 19:45:19 +0000 UTC]
Continue to be dismissive, it's going to come and bite you hard soon enough.
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tunefulThaumaturge In reply to LordVurtax [2013-04-10 21:10:16 +0000 UTC]
How would it? Are the "pro-life" people going to threaten me?
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Envision0 In reply to ??? [2013-04-10 18:35:19 +0000 UTC]
lol. I haven't laughed like that in a while xD
8/10, you almost had me.
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cheeseandchocolate In reply to ??? [2013-04-10 18:28:28 +0000 UTC]
Is it so obvious that this is only about abortion (as the comments suggest)?
For me, I see the endless struggle of women vs religion as regards all things sexual - the right to enjoy sex, the right to choose who and when to have sex with, the right to partake in it without fear of pregnancy, and yes, the right to an abortion. But I didn't see at as only being about abortion.
Meh, I guess we all project our own prejudices.
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JayySalvatore In reply to ??? [2013-04-10 18:28:23 +0000 UTC]
what? Control what exactly, the ability to be used and controlled like a sex object?
Use that thing that we used to call a Brain and get educated.
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ProAbortion101 In reply to JayySalvatore [2013-04-10 19:21:44 +0000 UTC]
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DemonHunter666333 In reply to ??? [2013-04-10 18:28:09 +0000 UTC]
This work is absolutely superb. The simplicity of it leaves it to be interpreted in quite a few different ways by the observer, and the symbolism used ties in well with the picture overall. You have done a spectacular job on this piece in my opinion.
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