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Okay so asides from Sasuke and Itachi, I absolutely LOVE Kakashi sensei! Furthermore, before Sasuke left the Leaf, I loved his and Kakashi's student/teacher relationship. I always pictured Kakashi understanding Sasuke's pain more than anyone due to his father, Rin, Obito, etc... and s this popped into my head. *sigh* Oh, Sasuke. If only you had listened to Kakashi sensei.OH! Read RIGHT TO LEFT like you would a manga!
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UberChimerism [2018-09-08 22:54:42 +0000 UTC]
I always felt Kishi could've and should've done more with Sasuke and Kakashi's relationship...
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SassyLilPanda In reply to Levi-Ackerman-Heicho [2015-03-14 23:05:56 +0000 UTC]
I know. I tend to do that a lot. I'm sorry. *offers tissue*
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Levi-Ackerman-Heicho In reply to SassyLilPanda [2015-03-14 23:32:46 +0000 UTC]
-takes the tissue & wipes my tears- Thanks ^_^
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SassyLilPanda In reply to Levi-Ackerman-Heicho [2015-03-15 01:02:56 +0000 UTC]
You're quite welcome. And there's more where that came from. Lol!
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Levi-Ackerman-Heicho In reply to SassyLilPanda [2015-03-15 03:40:17 +0000 UTC]
Then I better prepare myself, lol
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SassyLilPanda In reply to Levi-Ackerman-Heicho [2015-03-17 06:16:41 +0000 UTC]
Yep lol. I got one coming that's gonna give you feels, but hopefully good ones and in a nostalgic way.
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Levi-Ackerman-Heicho In reply to SassyLilPanda [2015-03-17 06:22:51 +0000 UTC]
Can't wait <3
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SassyLilPanda In reply to Levi-Ackerman-Heicho [2015-03-17 22:45:24 +0000 UTC]
I just posted it today.
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legacycreator97 [2015-03-14 12:37:08 +0000 UTC]
If only it had actually gone like this, there would've been so many things that could've been avoided
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SassyLilPanda In reply to legacycreator97 [2015-03-14 14:30:28 +0000 UTC]
I think even if it had, Sasuke still would have been driven by revenge, because he still never knew the truth about Itachi.
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legacycreator97 In reply to SassyLilPanda [2015-03-15 20:14:39 +0000 UTC]
Oh that is true, you know, that kinda shows that there was no hope for Sasuke anyway you slice it, he's such a difficult person
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SassyLilPanda In reply to legacycreator97 [2015-03-16 01:35:30 +0000 UTC]
No hope for Sasuke...? He's such a difficult person??? Did you read the manga? Do you know how it ends? Do you know anything at all about the Uchiha Curse of Hatred? :/ He's not a difficult person. It's not his fault all of this happened, and certainly not his fault he was inflicted with the curse.
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legacycreator97 In reply to SassyLilPanda [2015-03-16 13:52:43 +0000 UTC]
Well, first off, i did read the manga, and I'll give that to you. the Uchiha clan is cursed with hatred, but the situation with Sasuke shows how much hatred can ruin your life. Sasuke never once listened to anything anyone said throughout the whole series. Even after he found out Itachi did what he did for the village and after Itachi told him to stop, he didn't listen, Even his own best friend, Naruto he didn't listen to him. I just think he's a difficult person because one, Itachi didn't go off trying to destroy the village, even after what it did to him, Itachi knew the stakes and he accepted them, he vowed to protect the village no matter what. Two, Sasuke was so obsessed with killing his brother, it sent on the road to hatred, even Itachi regretted using hatred to guide him, unlike Itachi, Sasuke needed his arm blown off before he listened to reason, you ask me, that a real difficult person
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SassyLilPanda In reply to legacycreator97 [2015-03-16 14:43:01 +0000 UTC]
Then if you read the manga and understood the Curse of Hatred, you'd know that Sasuke was inflicted with it, hence the curse being a lot of the cause for his actions. Not to mention his overwhelming grief at the loss of his brother once he learned the truth about Itachi. This stems all the way back to Madara. Go to the Naruto Wiki and read about it if you don't understand it, but when Uchiha loves as much as they do and experiences that loss, the curse overwhelms them causing them to act out in such a manner. Sasuke didn't realize he was under that Curse of Hatred, and the curse is what made him do the things he did. Itachi had the Will of Fire and was able to overcome the curse because he'd seen war firsthand at such a young age and was traumatized by it. All he ever wanted was peace. Sasuke never experienced war. Sasuke never knew just how horrible war could be. The curse drove him into seeking vengeance because vengeance was all he ever knew. Then the truth about Itachi comes out, the truth about the elders, etc... Maybe I just understand the character more so, but he never asked to be shown his clan slaughtered over and over and over again under Itachi's genjutsu and Itachi is the one who drove him to hatred. Of course Sasuke isn't going to listen when he's under the curse. Itachi never was under the curse. Itachi realized his mistake and realized that if Sasuke had known the truth from the beginning, things may not have turned out this way, but he was so young. Obito explained that, which is why nobody told him. If you think he's a difficult person, fair enough, but I don't agree because the curse is responsible for most of his actions and it took Naruto to finally break him free from the curse, even if that meant blowing his arm off.
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legacycreator97 In reply to SassyLilPanda [2015-03-16 16:26:32 +0000 UTC]
I totally get that, that's why Itachi said that he was wrong for using hatred to make him stronger. And if you think about, the curse is the whole reason of why the Uchiha clan was slaughtered in the first place, or why Madara did what he did at the end. Hatred is a potent thng. Now, don't get me wrong, Sasuke is one of my favorite characters, but you get so irritated with him. Your own brother urged you to give up on revenge, the brother you "killed'" and cared for so much, you know where I'm coming from right?
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SassyLilPanda In reply to legacycreator97 [2015-03-16 20:28:02 +0000 UTC]
Sasuke didn't technically kill Itachi. Itachi was already dying. His body was beyond repair because he was suffering from a terminal illness. I think Itachi went into the fight with Sasuke already knowing he was going to die and so he allowed his brother his "revenge" in order to implant the Amterasu into Sasuke and for Sasuke's Mangekyo Sharingan to awaken since the person closest to him perished. But the thing is that Sasuke isn't 100% responsible for his own actions either. The curse is. The curse is what drove him to do the things he did. Sasuke didn't for one moment take pleasure in doing any of the stuff he did, except for maybe killing Danzo. Itachi never suffered from the Curse of Hatred. Itachi inherited the Will of Fire rather than the curse. The curse isn't what drove Itachi to kill the clan. The sake of the village, a 4th great ninja war and most importantly the protection of Sasuke, is what drove Itachi to murder his own clan.
This is taken from Naruto wiki about the Uchiha Curse of Hatred.
The Curse of Hatred (憎しみの呪い, Nikushimi no Noroi), is an ideal that is said to have been passed down from Indra Ōtsutsuki — the Uchiha clan 's forefather — to his many descendants. The origins of this way of thinking can be traced back to the time of the Sage of the Six Paths , who on his deathbed chose to name his younger son his successor over his elder son, despite the elder's supposed birthright. The Sage chose the child he thought most suitable to continue his legacy: Asura, who believed love was necessary to achieve peace, over Indra, who sought power to bring peace. Consumed by hatred and envy after their father's death, Indra — manipulated by Black Zetsu [1] — waged war against his brother, and began a cycle of conflict that transcended time and culminated in mutual hostility between the brothers' descendants: the Uchiha and theSenju .[2]
As was revealed by the Second Hokage , Tobirama Senju : the Uchiha are people greatly devoted to love and friendship. Because the Uchiha tend to conceal their more affectionate traits, a member's love can be transformed into hatred in the blink of an eye if they somehow lose the object of their love. The despair of the experience causes a manifestation of unique chakra within that Uchiha's brain, impacting the optic nerves and creating the Sharingan . Furthermore, advanced forms of the Sharingan require extremely painful experiences that cause the user to delve into darkness that utterly consumes them.[3] This causes the Uchiha to do anything and everything in their power to achieve their goals and show their own superiority, regardless of the consequences and repercussions of their actions, starting a war and/or bringing about their own deaths being two prominent examples.
An Uchiha who falls victim to the curse can give up that hatred if someone close to them can reach them, though this is incredibly difficult as the Uchiha becomes largely unreasonable and unflinching in their singular desire. For example, Madara Uchiha succumbed to the curse after cutting off his friendship with Hashirama Senju , then gave up that hatred when he acknowledged Hashirama's willingness to kill himself to bring peace between the clans, only to fall once again when learns that the villagers and his own clan didn't trust his warnings about Tobirama. During the time Madara gave up his hatred, it didn't appear to have entirely left him but rather he focused it on Konoha's wellbeing, such as when he unprovokedly attacked Mū and Ōnoki so they would submit to Konoha's authority when they brought up Hashirama's terms of both villages standing equally. Whereas in the village, he would be the first to help children who have tripped and fell and would regularly have a kind and gentle look in his eyes.
The curse also causes victims to become narrow-minded. A main example of this was when Itachi reprimanded his own father Fugaku , Yashiro , Tekka , and Inabi for focusing on the well-being of the clan alone instead of focusing on the well-being of Konoha; they accused Itachi of being arrogant and spilling nonsense, even threatening to arrest him, knowing full-well they would not be able to . When Shisui wrote a suicide note telling his clan he cannot follow through with the coup d'tact, their narrowmindedness made them unable to understand this, believing he would even sacrifice innocent lives for the sake of the Uchiha Clan and simply accused Itachi of killing him.
Over the years, there have been several Uchiha who managed to transcend the limitations of acting only for the sake of the clan, and instead valuing Konoha as a whole. Uchiha including Kagami — a subordinate of the Second Hokage, his descendant Shisui , and Shisui's best friend, Itachi , all inherited the Will of Fire , acting in the best interest of their village as opposed to themselves.[4]
Asura's latest reincarnation, Naruto Uzumaki managed to do what all of his prior incarnations had failed to do: end the rift created by the two lines of the reincarnated, which Naruto achieved by defeating Indra's latest successor, Sasuke Uchiha , in their final battle. Thus, Sasuke was finally able to overcome his clan's Curse, finally bringing about the end of the bitter feud that had lasted for centuries.[5]
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legacycreator97 In reply to SassyLilPanda [2015-03-17 00:01:13 +0000 UTC]
First off, thanks for all that information, two, I knew he didn't kill Itachi, as a matter of fact, most of the people he fought he didn't kill, Deidora blew himself up, Killer Bee beat the brakes off of him, and before he could kill Danzo, Danzo blew himself up. Three, I totally get the curse thing, The uchiha clan has a close connection with the people they care about. that's why Sasuke couldn't kill Naruto, even if he said he would. and even if he did kill Naruto, that would drive him further into darkness. Last, you can't tell me he didn't know what he was doing when he said he'd kill the Kage, he knew xactly what he was doing, but the leaf village ting, I knew he wouldn't do it, he too many things he cares about at the village, you know. Can I just say, you sure are a big fan of the Uchiha, they are cool, Sharingan is my favorite visual jutsu
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SassyLilPanda In reply to legacycreator97 [2015-03-17 05:42:12 +0000 UTC]
Where did I say he didn't know what he was doing? I said he cannot be held fully responsible for his actions, due to the fact that it was the curse that drove him to do what he did. And yes, the Uchiha brothers are my favorite in the series. I can't help that. I just felt more connected to them than any other characters. But I've done my homework. I also knew he couldn't destroy the leaf, but he was so driven by grief from losing Itachi, that he said it himself and I quote
"Itachi's life shows how he sacrificed himself to protect the village, but my grief at losing him is deeper than any desire to follow his path, inconsolably so. Itachi's life is more precious than the Hidden Leaf."
He felt at that moment that the Leaf was responsible for Itachi's suffering, and in a way, they were because of him having to murder his whole clan, and I honestly understand where Sasuke is coming from and why he feels the way he does. Here Itachi suffered for years on end while the Leaf live happily and peacefully all thanks to Itachi's sacrifice. Sasuke had to live in grief and overwhelmed by vengeance for so long that he too suffered. Then he learns the truth about Itachi and at that point, he suffered even more. His brother is dead and the Leaf are still prospering thanks to Itachi's sacrifice. So I get it. I do. I'm not saying it's the right thing. I'm just saying, I understand Sasuke's frame of mind, but I also understand a lot of his drive was the Uchiha Curse of Hatred and the darkness it drove him into. He knew what he was doing when he said he'd kill the Kage, BUT he was also still under the Curse of Hatred, through no fault of his own. It was thanks to Naruto that he was broken from it, even though they had to go to extremes to bring him back, but still... Sharingan is mine as well. Their genjutsu are incredible. Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu.
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legacycreator97 In reply to SassyLilPanda [2015-03-17 11:47:09 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, the susano'o is also a good move, and I can understand Sasuke too. I have a younger brother , so if something happened to him, and then later I found out someone was responsible, they'd be in trouble. Also, I like Itachi better out the two brothers. I like the fact that he didn't let himself fall prey to the darkness, and that he was still loyal to the leaf village, even after everything that had happened. And I'm also glad the curse is gone, if another Uchiha goes crazy, I'm seriously gonna freakout
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SassyLilPanda In reply to legacycreator97 [2015-03-17 18:38:44 +0000 UTC]
Yep Susano'o is pretty badass. Have you played any of the games? They're a lot of fun. Currently going through Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm Generations.
Yeah I get you. Sasuke is my favorite character. Itachi is my 2nd favorite, then Kakashi and then Gaara. The only reason why he didn't let himself fall prey to darkness is because witnessing war at such a young age allowed him to inherit the Will of Fire rather than be ravaged by the Curse of Hatred. Sasuke didn't just let himself fall prey. He became a victim of the curse the moment he saw Itachi kill his family at such a young age. Not like he had much control of it then. He experienced a loss more deep and profound than anyone. His entire family, his parents, his clan, etc... Itachi may have been the one to do it and it may have caused him pain to do it, but he didn't suffer the loss in the same way that Sasuke did. Yeah I doubt that's gonna happen. I don't see Sasuke's daughter turning out that way.
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legacycreator97 In reply to SassyLilPanda [2015-03-17 19:47:20 +0000 UTC]
Sasuke's daughter better not. Yeah, I played the games, I've played all the Ultimate Ninja storms except for revolution. I like Naruto, ( Obviously) , Neji, Gaara, and my favorite Akatsuki member is Nagato/Pain. I'm abeast at the games
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SassyLilPanda In reply to legacycreator97 [2015-03-17 22:04:37 +0000 UTC]
The only way I could see something like that happening to Sarada is if Sasuke or Sakura got killed in a really horrible way, and I can't see that happening.
That's cool.
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legacycreator97 In reply to SassyLilPanda [2015-03-18 02:22:16 +0000 UTC]
I know one thing, Bolt needs to be a beast, and if they make an extra series, Naruto must fight in at least two fights, and so does Sasuke
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SassyLilPanda In reply to legacycreator97 [2015-03-18 03:05:30 +0000 UTC]
No more Naruto vs Sasuke though... we're past that and Sasuke accepts him as a brother and his best friend and vice versa. The only way Sarada's Sharingan would awaken is if she experienced a seriously emotional trauma. I just don't want to see any of that happen.
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legacycreator97 In reply to SassyLilPanda [2015-03-18 11:49:16 +0000 UTC]
YEah I agree with you on the Naruto vs Sasuke fight, it would make no sense. and Sarada's sharingan can activiate in the heat of battle, like Sasuke's did fighting HAku, even though technically his awaken when his clan was killed
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SassyLilPanda In reply to legacycreator97 [2015-03-18 14:06:16 +0000 UTC]
His Sharingan awoken after Itachi killed the entire clan. His Sharingan only activated to it's level 2 stage when he fought Haku. She would have to feel a very strong, very powerful emotion such an an overwhelming love or an overwhelming hate, experience something tragic, etc... for her Sharingan to awaken IF she possesses one. Not every Uchiha possessed a Sharingan after all, just like every Hyuuga didn't possess a Byakugan.
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legacycreator97 In reply to SassyLilPanda [2015-03-18 14:42:49 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, but it would still be cool right
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SassyLilPanda In reply to legacycreator97 [2015-03-18 20:44:38 +0000 UTC]
Yes it would be cool.
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legacycreator97 In reply to SassyLilPanda [2015-03-18 21:36:44 +0000 UTC]
Thanks for the good debate, you are a worthy opponent indeed, It's cool if I add you to my watch list right? I'd love to make another debate with you sometime
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SassyLilPanda In reply to legacycreator97 [2015-03-18 22:21:39 +0000 UTC]
Haha why thank you. I enjoyed myself as well and yes. Feel free to add me to your watch list. I would appreciate it.
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SassyLilPanda In reply to lunablaze1 [2015-03-14 14:31:02 +0000 UTC]
I know. They're overwhelming on this one.
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