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The largest battle between the forces of Good and Evil is about to be fought. A request byLegion of the Everchosen: As the old world has reached the End Times, the Forces of Chaos have come to consume the world in fire. An army of daemons, beastmen, chaos dwarves, and corrupted humans have banded together in celebration of their dark gods, and seek only to see their will carried out. In addition, they have allied themselves with the Skaven, a race of ratmen who seek to rise up from their underground kingdom and take control of the surface world. The rats have allied with the forces of chaos, believing it is better to serve the devil then be destroyed by him. At the head of this army marches Archaon, the Everchosen, the one who prophecy claims will usher in the end of days. He and his malevolent army are ready to sweep away the world in a sea of blood, and it is unknown if any army in the Old World can stop him...
Defenders of Azeroth: While the forces of the Alliance and the Horde are often at odds with one another (often violently so), they have in the past put aside their differences and allied together to ward off an even greater threat. It is this combined army that will stand against the Legion of Chaos and their Skaven allies. This army of light will bring all the races of their respective factions to bare: Humans, Orcs, Goblins and Gnomes, Highborne, Night, and Blood Elves, All three Dwarf Tribes (along with the Forst Dwarves), The Trolls, Darlaan, Draenai, Fulborg Tribes, Yaungol, Taunka, Ogres, Taurens, Worgen, Jinyu, The Forsaken, and the Pandarens. These armies have the strength of will, of heart, and of body to face down challenge. They will fight for order, they will fight for life, and they will fight for honor. In the face of a true threat, they will work together to ensure the safety of their world.
Now these to massive armies, juggernauts in thier own worlds, able to steamroll over just about any opponent, will face the ultimate challenge. In each other they see everything they hate. No mercy will be asked for nor given. The strongest magics ever known will shake the foundation of the world! Soldiers from a myriad of races will die for what they believe in. Monsters from the depths of nightmares will walk the earth; heroes from greatest legends will once again make their presence known on the battlefield. Can the Army of Light survive the forces of the End Times? Can the army of the Everchosen destroy the defenders of Azeoth? Only time will tell as a fantasy battle to end all battles takes place. The war is coming, and there is one question you must ask yourself...
So the war will begin. What side will you stand with?
* The battle will take place in a faction neutral area. Both sides having equal starting numbers at first, with variable reinforcement rates.
(Disclaimer: Just to be clear, these two combatants were created / are owned by people far more creative / wealthier then me. I have made this, not for profit, but in the hopes of encouraging spirited discussion among fans. Please support the combatants official series. Thank you, that is all).
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Chaos always find a way. Blood Lust racial trait Orcs = Khorne feast
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I'm putting my money on Archaon's army. The Skaven alone could crush the Warcraft universe through the power of sheer attrition and that's without the demons, advanced technology, biological warfare, mutant's, and totally OP legendary characters like Archaon himself being included.
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I think this is a good battle but far more even than you suggest, for nothing you have given hasn't been fought and beaten by the Defenders of Azeroth.Β
Burning Legion: Literally everything you mentioned can be found here. They have daemons, biological warfare (fel), mutants, OP Characters (including a god that can, per official Blizzard cannon, slice planets in half) , and scale well beyond the Skaven. According to Warcraft Illidan and Chronicles the Burning Legion is one force capable of assaulting and destroying every single universe and alternate universe at once which is a force projection well beyond the Skaven. They also, per Legion, seem to have advanced technology including alleged Protoss style spaceships. Admitedly I have yet to play the beta to see the latter but this force has historically been beaten, albeit barely, by Azeroth.Β
Scourge: Legions of the Dead, a pretty powerful plague that bypassed healing magic (which no WHF plague other than Nurgle's Rot can do), mutants Admitedly this force is led by idiots.Β
Iron Horde: Semiautomatic weaponry, magically enhanced mutants, tanks, submarines etc.Β
Old Gods: Mutants, Corruption mechanics, Weird Ctullu rip off things etc.Β
All have been beaten by Azeroth. Not to mention Alliance/Horde are well above anything in WHF in terms of tech with legions of aircraft, aerial aircraft carriers, tanks (WHF has 7 inferior tanks with no capacity for more) , robots etc. Though Warhammer magic is more powerful Warcraft magic users are far more common while in WHF you have statistics of maybe 1 or 2 per ten thousand soldiers. Most critically, unlike with WHF Chaos, the forces of Azeroth are far more able to unify than the forces of ORDER Β in WHF which, at Archaon himself notes, would have been able to defeat him.Β
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I am thinking the Alliance and the Horde of the Azeroth will win the initial wars but Archeon is intelligent, strategic and knows how to play the long game and will slowly sow the seeds of discord and destruction
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I'll admit my knowledge of Warcraft is limited but isn't most of that stuff partially the result of player action/ interference?
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From my understanding of it in the books the players or adventurers are just one of part of an overall war with much of it being fought (and won) in the background. However adventurers play pivotal roles and they exist in lore according to the books. Hell in final Chapter of Warcraft: illidan you actually see a raid group fight the main character and BC dungeon boss
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And that's the main difference between Warcraft and Warhammer: important portions of the Warcraft storyline are often put in the hands of player controlled characters whereas in the Warhammer storyline the only time they ever advanced the plot ended in End Times.
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He has thousands of deamons and 4 dark gods on his side as well as his men and monsters.
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Alliance/Horde has beaten men, thousands of daemons, monsters and more than 4 dark gods before 
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And deamons can't handel everyting, with someting like a vortex (doesn't they have in WoW someting simular? I forgot the name of it) they nearly completly usless because they just disaper into noting.... and 99% of them will just fight each other.
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They haven't ever contested against something this bed-wettingly scary and powerful though.
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Living Nightmares, Ctullu inspirations, Demons, Undead Hordes- take your pick. Β Normal humans in WHF, even those who have first contact with Chaos ,do not have significant difficulties fighting them though of course they are scared. Even if these foes are scarier than normal given the Alliance's extensive past history- all of victory, unlike with WHF good factions who are thematically destined to lose thanks to problems the Alliance/Horde do not have- plus their own naturally high morale means that any morale difficulties they face should be negligible.Β
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Spoiler alert for WHFB: the Grand Legion of the Everchosen has done what few other bad guys have done: they won. Because Mannfred von Carstein is an idiot.
Also, because literally almost everything (skavenslaves are the obvious exception) in Warhammer is elevated to beyond stupid levels of overpowered, followed up with a massive injection of testosterone, my vote would be for Archaon's boys.
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I am well aware. Trust me I know my Warhammer. I have read all of the ET series and about 60 novels, along with ABs, WFRPs, Background books and more. Its worth noting that both Archaon in lore and the author of the End Times books in interview said that, if the Good guys had been able to unite early on (Dwarfs, Elves, Humans), they would have won the conflict. In fact I identified several thematic issues in another thread they ill repost here.Β
'1. They are all xenophobic-Β
Until the very end of the End Times, the mortals could not unify. Elves, Dwarves and Men all fought separate wars while Chaos, despite constant infighting, could just gather its forces to assault one at a time. Even then it was a war the mortals nearly won, and when the three races did unite at last it took a last minute betrayal for Chaos to win . In GlottkinΒ ArchaonΒ Β of all people states that if the three races could unify, they would beat him. Josh Reynolds, the author of the End Times novels (first and last), states his belief that if the three races had indeed unified earlier, they likely would have won.Β
2. They are all backward-
Compounding their xenophobia is backwardness is major backwardness. Witch Hunters prowl the Empire, putting only the tiniest amount of effort in distinguishing between genuine Chaos worshipers and the innocent. The Dwarves regress every year and hate any and all progress. The Elves are regressed in their social attitudes to looking all inward and Elven technology today is the same as it was in Aenarion's time.Β
3. They are all Petty-
In the End Times pettiness is a problem that appears literally everywhere. Mannfred screwed everyone over one because he couldn't accept that he wasn't special. Maleketh greatly screwed over the mortal side by instigating a war between Dwarves and Elves that sundered relations between the two races and greatly benefited Chaos. The Dwarves will actually sack a human city that was late on its payments- two hundred years ago from the event.Β
Not one of these problems applies to the alliance, and they barely apply to the Horde. The Alliance works well between races with neutral relations encouraging a vast degree of friendships between races. It constantly innovates, even the more conservative races, and Alliance leaders have all shown a ability to put pettiness and grudges aside, even with the Horde, to work towards a common goal. '
And no, not really. Its actually extremely balanced for the most part, and even the magic is not extremely overwhelming, especially when you consider WC magic likely outnumbers WHF magic 40 to 1(or greater ratios) if less individually powerful. On the base troop comparison the Alliance Footman is probably superior to everything Chaos/Skaven has except the Chaos Warriors, who in turn are outdone by the Paladin (who is the basic unit for the Draenei) . Chaos Champions and Adventurers are specialists heroes, though Adventurers are far more important in their lore. The Alliance/Horde also has far more reliable technology, more of it (Empire has 7 Steam Tanks compared to Alliance having hundreds and Horde has their own, more primitive variant) and would undeniable dominate air with their airships, WW1 planes, Gyrocopters and more.
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Β Well, I know all of Jack and shit about Warcraft lore (and Jack has left town). I'll also admit that most of the ridiculous power level from Warhammer is nearly all from 40k. I evidently have to remember that the Chaos stuff in particular is reduced quite a bit in power from 40k to Fantasy.
Β And yes, everyone in Warhammer is ridiculously petty. Almost nobody will team up to stop the bad guys just because it'll mean that someone else's power will increase. But that's mostly because of what a shithole the setting is.
Β In conclusion, I defer to your superior knowledge of both settings, since my area of expertise lies more in the grimdarkness of the 41st Millennium.
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I don't know enough about Warhammer to make an educated statement in this fight so I'll just side with Warcraft instead :3
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The Legion of the Everchosen look's basicaly so:
BEFORE archaron, the chaos forces fought the entire time,but not a real enemy ,mainly each other. The skaven(rat men with the knolege of biowarfare,mutationwarfare,magic,massiv numbers and insane technologie all with manifested chaosenergy/warpstone but one of the most crappiest leadership effer) fight each other in the underkindom for power over it,the beastmen(wilde,normanic beast-human hybrids with magic and strong and fast warbeasts but leaking in rangefightin like most other coming chaosfraktions and low armor) fought each other because they whanted to show,who is the better servant of the chaos,the chaosbabarians(like wikings with mutaded mammoths,fimir wherwolfs and ice wyrms but no atillery) who fought each other for recursses in the cold north,the chaoswarriors(much heavy infantery,monsters,kavilary and atillery but nearly no rangeunits like archers) fought each other in the name of there dark gods khorn,tzeench,nurgel or slaanesh ,the mutaded and corrupded chaosdwarfs (atillery masters with heavy infantery but slow speed+they created black orcs who nearly wiped them out) who aren't just enuff for a real war and a least demons(interdeminsional,with much meleepower and magic but problems with they leadership because the great vortex who doesn't exist in WoW),the real servands of the chaos gods who were created in the warp of the feelings from mortals who fouth each other because the chaos gods hate each other. BUT Archaon mansge it to getter all these forces togetter what means they don't kill each other now. And with that main problem out of the way he later destroyd in a secont try (first one was the storme of chaos who manly only fight the chaoswarrios) after opening a portal in middenheim and overruning the world with demons(the vortex collabst of course bevore that). P.s. and because of this,I would say they would win.
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Sorry,it means ,,and at last demons" not ,,and as least demons"
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I am going to have to ask that you ask for a respectful moment of silence on the next WHF thread, as the setting is entirely destroyed now . ..
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Wow... so WHF is done? The Old World is destroyed and everyone's dead? Damn...
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One line sums it all up :Β
#DammitMannfred
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Yep. Spoilers but Chaos wins
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Wait, they able to kill Nagash in the new book?
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Yep. And All the other incarnates including Sigmar.Β
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And the big G was thinking:,,Damm,now we need someting new. Do we must use our brains now or our greed... FUCK IT. LET'S MAKE ROGUE TRADER 2.0. And from that day, ,,Age of Fuck you, thats why" was born. Everybody is alive again, status Q is back again and the only differences are that we have now emortal space marin- I mean sigmari- DAMMIT I mean stormcast eternals,an army full of lord kroaks with the original who turned into a meme lord, one word changed in the name of every race and chaos has no sex god anymore.
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...too many to easily list.
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Well if Archeon's army wins, I can always send a few Exalts to kill them.
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It's the End of the Word as we know it!
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BUT I FEEL FINE!
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NO YOU'LL BE STONE DEAD IN A MOMENT.
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