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So the newest trend on dA is to make species, and that I understand.Making species is fun, and it leads to opportunities for character designs.
However it isnt cool pulling the whole "this is an original species and if you make something like this I'll report you" deal when most species are so easy to accidentally copy, or are so simple that anyone can make one accidentally.
Most of them are just combined animals with different objects or animals and you get some different result.
For example, Nekoi.
Theyre cute, don't get me wrong, but there are so many species out there that are fish and cats combined.
For someone to put a big ol' "this is mine and you cant use this" thing on something so simple, charge $50+ in real money or points is bogus.
Another one is the water dogs.
Again, theyre cute, but it is literally water and a dog combined.
Anyone can make that off the top of their head without knowing about the species.
If youre gonna make a species that is so simple and/or such a common mixture, than make it an open species or don't even make it a species at all.
Instead just make adoptables of them or something, not claiming anything along those lines as your own.
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Digital-Reindeer [2016-12-24 22:51:06 +0000 UTC]
I see closed species that are literally anime chibis with animal ears and tails with starry eyes or something and people say " This is my closed species do not make your own!" ... Seriously? That has been done SO many times in anime and manga and some random person with a DA account is gonna come along and close them off?Β
Now there ARE some closed species that are pretty original, for example Niftens. They are a newer species and I never seen anything like that before, and you'd have to actually try to copy the design if you wanted to make something similar.
i have a few closed species and I know they're not very original, but I closed them because I like the idea of them, not to limit others creativity and say they can't make something similar. I don't care if somebody draws a fox or other animal that has a fiery tail, as long as they aren't claiming it's official. Same with my other species. I got flamed for putting Pinkie Pies tail on a rabbit OC before because it was "copying" somebody's closed species, when in reality anybody could've thought of that without even knowing about it.
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Frostdance89 [2016-08-03 19:02:36 +0000 UTC]
-.- This is offensive!
I worked really hard on MY species and people like you go around trash talking the entire IDEA of species!!!
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Talehh In reply to Frostdance89 [2017-01-28 22:52:52 +0000 UTC]
Your species is not original. Having some feline with a gem on it's tail is not original.
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Frostdance89 In reply to Talehh [2017-01-28 22:54:34 +0000 UTC]
Wow. I forgot I even commented this. How long ago was this? Wow.
Anyway, I agree, THAT species was definitely un-original.
BUT, I made a new one, (if you had actually bothered to check your facts, you would've known that.) and these ones I drew myself. I work hard on this species, and have made some extra points off of it.
^^
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xKittyCreatorx In reply to Frostdance89 [2017-11-13 16:26:55 +0000 UTC]
Why would they want to "check your facts" on someone like you?Β
Sorry, just being blunt, they probably didn't care enough to check what other species you haveΒ
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Frostdance89 In reply to xKittyCreatorx [2017-11-13 22:36:22 +0000 UTC]
Why would you feel the need to butt into a random conversation that has nothing to do with you and is kind of old anyway? Guess I'll never know. Oh well.
Anyways, I'd rather not spend my time arguing with you, have a nice afternoon.Β
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xKittyCreatorx In reply to Frostdance89 [2017-11-13 22:48:48 +0000 UTC]
It's not my fault you decided to be stupid online.
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doIIynho In reply to Frostdance89 [2016-10-05 21:44:09 +0000 UTC]
tell me when someone work hard on a floating mouse with a mohawk and a gem on its tail or a dog combined with water ?
(i know your comment is old but i dont give a fuck )
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sweetbream In reply to Frostdance89 [2016-08-29 21:30:49 +0000 UTC]
coming onto a stamp about disliking closed species while owning one and liking them yourself makes you look like a hypocritical ass.
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Frostdance89 In reply to sweetbream [2016-08-29 21:46:49 +0000 UTC]
I was looking at stamps, and since this is a stamp, it came up on the side. It was offensive, so I stated so. You don't need to be rude about anything, nor do you need to swear to get your point across.
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sweetbream In reply to Frostdance89 [2016-08-29 22:23:00 +0000 UTC]
that was nowhere near rude but I can be rude if you want honey
You took to get on a stamp with a different opinion than your own and cry about how offended you are. Your species must not be original if it offends you so much, hmm? Please exit.
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Frostdance89 In reply to sweetbream [2016-08-30 19:41:24 +0000 UTC]
That's comedy gold. Really, you just made my day.Β
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Streled In reply to Frostdance89 [2016-08-16 22:18:28 +0000 UTC]
Are you fucking kidding me?
frostdance89.deviantart.com/arβ¦
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Website- Doll Divine
Game- Fox Creator Twai
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YOU FUCKING USED A DOLL MAKER ON A FLASH SITE AND CALL THAT "WORKING REALLY HARD" ?!
HOW old are you?
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Frostdance89 In reply to Streled [2016-08-16 23:48:17 +0000 UTC]
OBVIOUSLY you're too much of an idiot to see that HALF OF MY FREAKING GALLERY is my new species, Liten-Fe. Now shut the heck up unless you know all the facts. All further attempts at communication will be ignored.Β
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BeholdThePowerOfNod In reply to Frostdance89 [2016-08-17 17:46:36 +0000 UTC]
How old are you...?
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KashimusPrime In reply to Frostdance89 [2016-08-17 15:36:29 +0000 UTC]
I think you need to calm down dear. I also think the reason they find your OC lacking hard work is because you just clicked a few flash buttons on a game. Now using character makers to make your own OC is alright. It's all in fun and no one gets hurt. However, what you should do is try to draw your little OC on paper. Putting effort into drawing is more effort than it is clicking flash buttons. Plus you get to add onto the OC rather than what's provided.Β
Your creatures are very cute imho.Β
But you need to calm down. Your behavior is screaming to get bullied, especially with how aggressive you are to other people over a stamp IE someone's opinion.Β
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Streled In reply to Frostdance89 [2016-08-17 00:10:39 +0000 UTC]
Right, "new species".
How many of them did you made yourself?
One? Two?
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Altean-Prince In reply to Frostdance89 [2016-08-14 10:35:19 +0000 UTC]
Your artwork is very offensive. Reported.
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Sweetnfluffy-adopts [2016-02-21 04:51:14 +0000 UTC]
I made a closed species awhile ago and I'm surprised nobody has shouted at me for making them look like a fallout deathclaw/rake/whale mashup.Β
Or the ones that look eerily similar to scarfoxes...
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CrazyIsBack In reply to Eggdis [2016-09-15 20:46:38 +0000 UTC]
or dragon like seriously
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Eggdis In reply to CrazyIsBack [2016-09-15 21:37:33 +0000 UTC]
eeeh, Dragon species can be kind of creative, if you step away from the typical dragon designs and like use other cool things to slap on them
or of course use different lizards then dragons because there are cooler lizards then dragons
real ones even!
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CrazyIsBack In reply to Eggdis [2016-09-15 21:39:16 +0000 UTC]
eh, really depends on open or closed, but still not very original on design basis
closed species in general are just bad jujuΒ
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ProcyonNoumer [2014-09-06 08:27:21 +0000 UTC]
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of Europa, that icy, life-bearing moon, andΒ β
Carcharodontosaurus, lol
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awesomepuppy101 [2014-08-27 02:42:40 +0000 UTC]
HAY U MADE FUN OV MAH 50% FOOD 50% DOG
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wwwarea [2014-08-05 10:10:09 +0000 UTC]
"Most of them are just combined animals with different objects or animals and you get some different result."
You are pretty much describing how creativity works..
The fact is, everything is made up of old existing ideas, and other things. We copy, combine, and then make something new out of it.. What I quoted (The words from you) is generally how a "new unique" thing is.
To create something unique, you have to "combine" first.
If originality means making a new form at the end, then I will say, a "dear/wings" is still an original thing, because it's a new animal as a whole, even though (just like real life), the parts are known. Your suggestion is still another way of making something new, but the other way isn't anything different.
While you still see it as parts, it's still legit to call it a new species, as a whole. Especially since (If you are more aware) that all "different animals" already use existing parts.
I also like to note that nothing is original but the so-called original works, isn't anything different than this. To create a new animal, you always have to combine them.. Even if not, that doesn't mean this doesn't count.
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Cold-Pizza-Claus [2014-08-04 21:38:57 +0000 UTC]
I have this Sea Serpent species and I really like it, but I admit they are just a crocodile and a dolphin combined for the most part.
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Stinkek [2014-08-04 09:59:41 +0000 UTC]
I created a species based off dogs a few years ago, and only recently I realised how simple and banal it was, and abandoned it.
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Baastille [2014-07-30 20:28:50 +0000 UTC]
omg yes, i was just thinking this the other day. i've seen people sell species "slots," designs, and whatnot for over 50$! ridiculous
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Cld999 [2014-07-30 15:55:15 +0000 UTC]
Omg thank you for saying what we're all thinking ;u;
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RetSamys [2014-07-30 11:26:07 +0000 UTC]
The best thing about it is that copyright doesn't apply here. It only applies to actual distinguishable and usable material such as real images. As long as you don't use an original image in any way, you'll be fine.
I'll say it again: Copyright protects the artwork itself, it does not protect ideas!
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Meadowind [2014-07-30 08:45:11 +0000 UTC]
most I've seen isn't even any thing combined. It's just straightout Cat with neon colors and tongue that glows in the dark, closed species, don't steal!
claiming them as a whole. new. species is so silly. If it's just a modified thing that already exists, then why not make it a sub-species of some kind? But no, it needs an entirely new fancy name.
what bothers me even more is that people don't even explain why their "original" subspecies has these and those characteristics and features. WHY does the cat glow in the dark, has it any evolutional benefit? When a wolf suddenly has meterlong silky fur and wings and lives underwater then I quite question how the poor thing is able to move.
And we so often only get the descriptions and rules how the design itself works, not any further information about how the individual critters behave, what their habitat is, what they eat, you know what I mean? Heck, when they are a closed species anyway I couldn't care less about the designing rules! But I want to know something about the adoptable that I am going to pay half of my rent for! There's more to a species than "common uncommon rare - they can have any color, markings only are seen on back(of course can have any color), eyes are always blue or green or yellow, pink orange -yep you got it, any color, these are the kind of horns they wear, okay good night."
and I used these species as mere examples that came from my imagination. I wonder if these really are a thing, sorry I did not want to steal, oops.
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anim3admir3r In reply to Meadowind [2014-08-03 23:59:47 +0000 UTC]
I agree, and I feel even more connected when the creature seems believable.Β
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JadedSketch In reply to Meadowind [2014-07-31 00:07:22 +0000 UTC]
I know, right?
I don't create species for adoptables nor do I sell them, but rather I create them for the world my story (still very much a WIP) takes place in, but I do agree with this sentiment wholly. A few species I have entirely scrapped because designing them for the environment they were supposed to be in just made that little sense. I even get a little nitpicky about the races I put in that world--Hell, there's a race of ghoul-like energy beings, and I even have somewhere written down that they technically all have both genders, how it is exactly they breed, and why it happens like that.Β
Yet I still Β do not say "ORIGINAL RACE/SPECIES DO NOT STEAL". I just only get upset if they do the exactΒ same thing and know me. What is so hard about that? Yes, the background and flavour text takes a little longer than just aesthetics, but it does help make a nicer product by far.
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VanLouProductions [2014-07-30 07:10:12 +0000 UTC]
Well, personally, I see it this way:
Just because the species [i]design[/i] is not the most original, there are still things which make all these species unique.
Of course I think it funny when people get all butthurt about somebody doing something that looks somewhat close to their species, when their basic idea isn't something original at all. (Having this problem with two species on ChickenSmoothie. It's really funny how putting a crystal/gem/jewel on the head and tail of any kind of animal is considered stealing the "Jewel Mane Dragons".)
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Kaishiru [2014-07-30 03:23:43 +0000 UTC]
I was afraid to say something about this and I'm glad someone else did too. I've seen people do this in the adoptable world more oftehn than everywhere else. There are people who make egg adoptables (the true adoptable being somewhat a mystery until someone buys it) and claim it's their idea and will report anyone/get them banned who uses it. The thing is, egg adoptables aren't that uncommon. It may be a tad bit rare from what I've seen but not uncommon. Personally I have mixed feelings on egg adoptables but at the same time, I think it's a cute idea making a creative, colorful looking egg to give off what kind of adoptable it is. Though this idea isn't something that's uncommon since most ideas if not all of them have been used before in some way or another. o3o (I'm probably not making sense, I'm sorry. >u>;; )
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Little-rolling-bean [2014-07-30 03:13:44 +0000 UTC]
Agreed. Unless that species is very unthinkable (eg: A deer with butterfly wings, canine head, firefly tail and horse mane), I doubt a cat/dog is original, and bullying someone for "stealing" your "original" species is fucking wrong.Β
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