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Am I the only one that actually feels bad for this character? (I know I'm not
) This is what I think of her, she's got almost the perfect competitive, go-getter attitude. Yeah she is a bit mean at points, but Rainbow Dash isn't much of a saint either.She got in trouble for things that really shouldn't have been her fault. One being Rainbow Dash hurting her wing, why is that Dust's fault? RD is suppose to be one of the best flyers even I would expect her to shake that off.
As for the tornado I do think it was rather wreckless, but I think she didn't know that the balloon was there. Besides RD's friends shouldn't have been up there, they just intruded into an obstacle course. It's like if a person was intruding into a military base, but was using a target on a targeting range for hiding.
Everyone is going to have they're take on this character, but I really think she didn't deserve the treatment she got.
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When you're a leader you are responsible for everything that happens under your watch. Lighting Dust should have listened to RD when she voiced concerns. The resulting injury was avoidable if Lighting had listened.
When speed was not an issue Lighting chose to bypass the other teams in the process endangering them.
Then of course there is the use of the tornado to clear the sky. It doesn't matter that she didn't know she would be endangering anyone, she should have asked herself if someone could have been endangered and in light of that if her course of action was necessary.
Having been in the military, the kind of shit she pulled would have gotten her demoted at least.
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never gonna live a normal life again....
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When you think about it, it's not a hundred percent certain that she got kicked out. She *was* being very reckless however, and while she did bring ponies in danger with the tornado stunt, no one got seriously hurt. At most, she's gotten a *very* serious reprimand along with some duties that serve as punishment (like cleaning up parts of the obstacle with a toothbrush or something), but I could be wrong.
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Well actually, the fact that Dash hurt her wing isn't Lightning's fault, but the fact that she didn't report it straight away to Spitfire and instead told Dash to quit whining is entirely her fault. Being a leader means making decisions for your team, and if one of your team is hurt its your responsibility to make sure they get the care they need AND NOT HURT THEMSELVES FURTHER BY TRYING TO PUSH THEMSELVES. Yeah sure RD's a great flyer, but you make a collision like that at that kind of speed, I don't care who you are or what you do, that's gonna hurt a lot. As for the balloon incident, your argument would work better if for one, there were warnings posted in the area that it was a training zone. Secondly, even without the balloon there, tornadoes are extremely dangerous, and there were still quite a few people nearby. Not to mention she knocked the rest of the trainees off the obstacle course, possibly injuring them in the process, just because she was worried about how good she looked. Someone like that doesn't belong on the wonderbolts, where teamwork and unit cohesion is an absolute must. What she did was stupid, petty, and reckless, and the reason that she got in trouble is because she wasn't smart enough to think any of this stuff through. Yeah, Rainbow Dash isn't exactly perfect either, but she at least knows where to draw the line with her stunts. Most everything she does will only put herself in danger, but when she starts endangering others, that's when she stops. So no, I do not feel bad for Lightning Dust, but I'm not mad at her either. She got what she deserved for endangering herself and others.
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sure, felt kinda bad, but then again, i doupt she was thrown out, just demoted to wingpony
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I felt bad too, but thought that she brought it down upon herself. Her actions WERE far too reckless and dangerous, and risked ponies getting seriously hurt on more than one occasion. But above all, she didn't want to work as a team; she was more concerned about her OWN success than the well-being of others, and that's worse still.
As for getting kicked out; it's the Wonderbolts. It was made clear as crystal that it was "sink or swim" with them. You didn't meet expectations, then you would not progress. Stern, yes, but given the militaristic-feel of the Wonderbolts, it's expected. Real military organizations would not tolerate such actions very well either, and would likely respond accordingly in the end.
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I came away from the episode thinking that Dust was "busted" back to the beginner class, as opposed to being kicked out. Dust needs to review the basics of team flying before she can try the advanced class again.
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I felt bad for her too. Honestly she deserved to be punished for recklessly endangering the others but I still feel like kicking her out was going too far. She was bad but she wasn't irredeemable and she looked like she could have learned from the incident. Plus Spitfire was fully aware of LD acting the way she was from the beginning and rewarded her for it, if she didn't want her acting that way she should have reprimanded her for her behavior BEFORE it got out of hand. Kicking her out seems like its pushing her to use her abilities in a destructive way.
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I pull one foot in front of the other one, i don't need a knew love, or a new life, just a better place to die.
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Its a song 
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Yeah, I get it :>. You should check it out.
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I'm waiting to watch it with my super special sompony, so i will eventually.
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Lightning Dust isn't a team player.....she's kind of an elitist. She wants to be the best, pushes herself to be the best at all costs, has contempt for those not at her level and has no interest in helping them.
That said, you're right....she shouldn't be kicked out for the tornado. The other Mane Six shouldn't be there (I didn't consider that before, and you're right). RD was partially responsible because she agreed to the idea of creating a tornado. You could say RD was just following orders because she wasn't in lead, technically true....but she was actually asked to follow along instead of being ordered. Plus "just following orders" isn't really a great excuse.
If anything I think Spitfire was mostly to be blame, she did seem to reward recklessness. She also seemed to create an unpleasant environment with her "drill sergeant" approach which encouraged competitiveness and discouraged teamwork. Sure she split them into teams, but she put the two best ponies together....how could she not expect them to decimate the rest? She also seemed to not care about the training by not paying close attention to what was going on, opting to stay in her office signing autographs. It kind of seem tripe at the end when she said she agreed with RD.
Well if it makes you feel any better, we don't know for sure Lightning Dust got kicked out, she might have just been stripped of her leader status. It was ambiguous.
But you raised some good points.
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It's something I hadn't thought about but yeah, that seemed kind of harsh. LD did not at any point fail at flying. She failed at leading (not noticing that RD couldn't keep up counts on this front; as does the tornado, it was straight-up reckless).
That being said, I thought RD would have failed for being an *imprecise* flyer. That was always her flaw, she earned the nickname Rainbow Crash after all. (to be fair, she's also the only pony to break the sound barrier, chew on that). She does, however, have basic leadership skills.
will ponder this more.
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I don't think RD was an imprecise flyer, she cautioned they should slow down because she didn't think both of them could make it at that speed. Lightning Dust didn't really care that much about that (she's reckless), she or RD could have been hurt....that time it was RD. When making the Tornado, LD couldn't handle it that time. Lightning Dust strikes me as a "ends justifies the means" kind of person to justify her recklessness/mistakes. After RD told her that the Mane Six could have died, she said something like "but they didn't, it all worked out".
The more I think about it, the more I come to the conclusion that Spitfire was to be blamed. She put LD in charge, it's not LD's fault she's not good at it. Spitfire never even acknowledges her mistake of putting LD in charge, instead puts all the blame on LD. Spitfire was seemed happy with everything LD did, but when it came to fault and criticism, she scapegoats LD.
Also interestingly, I just read on EqD for the Episode Followup that originally the episode was supposed to end with RD quitting the Wonderbolts, but they used the alternate ending which we saw. EqD didn't cite any references other than saying the writer who said this.
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I'm going to have to ponder on this some more too, lol.
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Wow, this episode is making me think really hard, way more than the writers intended I'm sure.
I'm starting to agree with the "It's all really on Spitfire" camp though. Whether this is quasi-military or just advance d flight summer camp, Spitfire is in charge and the buck (heh) stops there. LD and RD both display weaknesses, which is why they're students in the first place.
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I was hoping she didnt get kicked out. Maybe just punished and demoted for misconduct.
I'd rather not see a good flyer leave to the shadowbolts. If those are even real
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I feel bad for her too. :'-( Hope she gets redeemed like trixie.
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One mistake? One mistake?! ONE mistake?!?! She told RD to keep flying anyways even though she said it was too tight for both of them to fit at that speed causing her to hurt her wing, sent half of their class into total TAILSPINS on the obstacle course, and created a tornado THAT SHE COULDN'T CONTROL for CLOUDBUSTING thus pulling Applejack, Fluttershy, Pinkie Pie, Rarity, and Twilight into it when she lost control of it. Then she offers a HOOFBUMP to RD after all of it. That's 3 mistakes, not 1.
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Rainbow Dash agreed with making the tornado, LD could not have done it without her, so putting all the blames on her was tremendously hypocritical. And her wing? She could have stopped at time, she knew it was dangerous, but she kept on. Again, not entirely LD's fault. And yes, she was quite immature, but being kicked out while RD was PROMOTED was very unfair. She could have told Spitfire sooner or could have speaked more with LD. But she didn't. So, if her friends have died, it would be RD's fault too.
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I wouldn't be one to make Lightning Dust a victim like Trixie, personally. She may have wanted to be a Wonderbolt, but poor sportsmanship is just plain (negative). Yes she would want to be a Wonderbolt, but if she tries to take down others to be the higher ranked contender, that's just a bit dishonorable. Tactical, but dishonorable.
However, I agree with Spazturtle and Digoracoon, that she's just likely getting a scolding and downgrading in rank. Would make sense, anyways.
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Yeah she was kind of a bitch at the end, but you have to admit that she is MUCH more likeable than Trixie.
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Oh, yeah, definitely. It's just that she can't be turned into a victim like Trixie ("I just wanted attention").
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Agreed ^^ It's just that I find unfair that they put ALL of the blames on LD
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I don't think she was kicked out, she was most likely being escorted to Spitfires office for disciplinary action. It is highly unlikely that she would be kicked out considering that it partly the training officers fault. She would most lily be grounded for a few days and then made a wing pony.
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For what it's worth, I don't believe she was kicked out of the academy. Sure, she's n longer wing leader, but after a couple demerits peeling potatoes she's probably back into the training and learning to be a little more cautious.
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I don't think she was a bad person, but Rainbow told her that it was a too tight when they were trying to get the flag. She should have listened to her wing but she made the call, and Rainbow got hurt because of it. If your wing tells you they can't do something and you tell them to do it anyways, then when they get hurt or killed guess who dun fucked up? Don't forget that she hurt the pretty much the entire class by plowing through them. She might not have deserved to be kicked out of the academy, but she repeatedly demonstrated that she is a bad leader and an inconsideate team mate. Two qualities that will get you killed in dangerous activities.
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Agreed. Not to mention that when the hurricane idea was devised, they still had the other cadets at risk of it also. The fact that she wanted to risk so much without proper knowledge of if she could or couldn't control it is what makes her unfit to be a Wonderbolt.
(Practice on controlling such a dangerous move at home is all that I ask; before wanting to try it out in a high risk situation.)
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Yeah she just lost leadership privileges i think she is still in the game
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Personally i think they just walked her off for disciplinary action. You don't wash someone out that fast if they're that good at what they do.
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Your'e not the oly one who feels sad for this character.
I feel sad for her, too.
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I don't think anyone wants to admit to the fact that, without Rainbow Dash, that twister could not have been made. Rainbow decided to help because she thought it would be alright. Secondly, she should have only be reprimanded for not being a team-player; what happened to Rainbow's friends was NOT entirely Dust's fault.
For one, without Rainbow that twister couldn't have been made, like I said before. Two, there's no way she could have known the other members of the mane six would show up at the EXACT moment they'd sent a twister off into the distance. Everything that she really got expelled for, if she did get expelled, was because of a freakin' coincidence. That just sucks.
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EXACTLY. Rainbow knew that she had to calm LD down, but she didn't just because she wanted to be considered better than her.
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it is really sad what happened to lighting dust
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I think that she got what she deserved, Rainbow Dash was trying to talk sense into her and she just blew her off.
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>Am I the only one that actually feels bad for this character?
-Certainly not me, at least.
But whatever... unless proven otherwise, it's not like she was *permanently banned* from the academy.
She can still come back later, thought it might be rather hard, and she's likely to have to prove that her past behavior has been reasonably tempered.
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tho critique, you got her cutiemark wrong
the lightning bolt is white
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Hmm, looked Yellow the last I saw it, but I'm sure it's easy to get those two mixed :/
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nostril also kinda makes it look like she has a stache but you still did a great job here
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Lol I get that a lot, it's just the style I have.
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hey not like i could do better, keep up the good work
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if only she wasn't so bitchy. But yes it is sad.
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I thought about her too after the episode, kinda sad actually
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